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Title: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 21, 2016, 04:20:56 am
[MODERATOR SPLIT FROM HERE: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=9635.0 ]

The neurotransmitter that carries the sexual message is acetylcholine (ACh). ACh also seems to control sexual behavior through its activity in the brain.
For women, ACh is also a very important part of sexual function.
One way to safely and effectively enhance ACh levels is to take supplements of choline, along with vitamin B5, (pantethine)
So that the body will manufacture more Ach.

This is what I have been taking and it works if: Your T, E2, SHBG, DHT, and others are in a good place.

Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit), 
Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens) 
Tyrosine 
Doctors Best Brain Enhancers (choline),
Pantethine
L-Citrulline

If you raise Dopamine and Nitric Oxide,  Libido and Especially Erection Quality go way up.

[MODERATOR'S CAUTION:  If you have any medical condition or are on any medication, always ask your physician first!  Also, later in this thread JustAskin wrote that "I do not take Daily, only take all on day when expecting sex.  I forgot to mention before, My Morning Smoothie has Maca."]

Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 21, 2016, 10:52:18 am
Thx JustAskin. 

Guys, the above is a powerful so go easy as you start.  Try one thing at a time and make watch out for priapism.

Pantethine is a cholesterol lowerer interestingly enough which should help to a small extent with endothelial function.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 21, 2016, 01:31:30 pm
I just stickied this thread cuzz both JustAskin and I are seniors.  (Jeez, I hate that word!  How about 'Esteemed Elders?'  No, that's not any better.)  And there is research (Dr. Knoll summarized this) saying that at age 45, your brain loses about 13% of its dopamine per decade.  The eventual outcome?  No more intercourse.  Erectile strength and libido are hammered.  So after about 45 you have to work on neurotransmitters as well and brain function.  JustAskin's formula above is an attempt to go after this long-neglected aspect of things. 

How safe are all of these long term?   Well, no one knows that.  But kudos to him for doing research and proving that the concepts are successful and important to erectile strength.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 21, 2016, 03:30:39 pm
I came up with this thru trial and error, and tons of reading about Dopamine and Nitric Oxide and the roles they play.
We loose so much as we get older. So if you don't replace you will pay the price.
I studies the relationships and what enhanced the others.
There is one more: DMAE:   
 DMAE is a precursor to choline and acetylcholine. but only take one of the acethlcholine activators or trust me it is to much, erections will hurt.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: croaker24 on March 21, 2016, 03:42:20 pm
I just stickied this thread cuzz both JustAskin and I are seniors.  (Jeez, I hate that word!  How about 'Esteemed Elders?'  No, that's not any better.)  And there is research (Dr. Knoll summarized this) saying that at age 45, your brain loses about 13% of its dopamine per decade.  The eventual outcome?  No more intercourse.  Erectile strength and libido are hammered.  So after about 45 you have to work on neurotransmitters as well and brain function.  JustAskin's formula above is an attempt to go after this long-neglected aspect of things. 

How safe are all of these long term?   Well, no one knows that.  But kudos to him for doing research and proving that the concepts are successful and important to erectile strength.

Or how safe, short term?    For example Tyrosine.    ( http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/tyrosine (http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/tyrosine)  )     

Possible Interactions

If you are being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use tyrosine supplements without first talking to your health care provider.

Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs) -- Tyrosine may cause a severe increase in blood pressure in people taking antidepressant medications known as MAOIs. This rapid increase in blood pressure, also called "hypertensive crisis,” can lead to a heart attack or stroke. People taking MAOIs should avoid foods and supplements containing tyrosine. MAOIs include:

Isocarboxazid (Marplan)
Phenelzine (Nardil)
Tranylcypromine (Parnate)
Selegiline

Thyroid hormone -- Tyrosine is a precursor to thyroid hormone, so it might raise levels too high when taken with synthetic thyroid hormones.

Levodopa (L-dopa) -- Tyrosine should not be taken at the same time as levodopa, a medication used to treat Parkinson's disease. Levodopa may interfere with the absorption of tyrosine.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Osprey on March 21, 2016, 03:43:11 pm
I've had a similar stack going for about 3 weeks.

Differences are I'm taking pantothenic acid instead of pantethine, and alpha GPC instead of Doctor's Best Brain Enhancers. Everything else is the same.

So far have noticed no improvements in any symptoms.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 21, 2016, 03:47:51 pm
I just stickied this thread cuzz both JustAskin and I are seniors.  (Jeez, I hate that word!  How about 'Esteemed Elders?'  No, that's not any better.)  And there is research (Dr. Knoll summarized this) saying that at age 45, your brain loses about 13% of its dopamine per decade.  The eventual outcome?  No more intercourse.  Erectile strength and libido are hammered.  So after about 45 you have to work on neurotransmitters as well and brain function.  JustAskin's formula above is an attempt to go after this long-neglected aspect of things. 

How safe are all of these long term?   Well, no one knows that.  But kudos to him for doing research and proving that the concepts are successful and important to erectile strength.

Or how safe, short term?    For example Tyrosine.    ( http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/tyrosine (http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/tyrosine)  )     

Possible Interactions

If you are being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use tyrosine supplements without first talking to your health care provider.

Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs) -- Tyrosine may cause a severe increase in blood pressure in people taking antidepressant medications known as MAOIs. This rapid increase in blood pressure, also called "hypertensive crisis,” can lead to a heart attack or stroke. People taking MAOIs should avoid foods and supplements containing tyrosine. MAOIs include:

Isocarboxazid (Marplan)
Phenelzine (Nardil)
Tranylcypromine (Parnate)
Selegiline

Thyroid hormone -- Tyrosine is a precursor to thyroid hormone, so it might raise levels too high when taken with synthetic thyroid hormones.

Levodopa (L-dopa) -- Tyrosine should not be taken at the same time as levodopa, a medication used to treat Parkinson's disease. Levodopa may interfere with the absorption of tyrosine.


Thx croaker.  I put a warning in the original post - see above.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 22, 2016, 03:34:07 am
I take  Pantethine for it's Cholesterol control. Just so happens it also helps with endothelial function.
I take synthroid 25mcg. each morning, and monitor my levels often, so far I have seen no signs of levels increasing from the tyrosine.

Pantethine is a combination of the vitamin pantothenic acid and the low-molecular-weight aminothiol cysteamine.
It is the biologically active form of pantothenic acid (vitamin B5).
Pantothenic acid is composed of a single molecule, whereas pantethine consists of two pantothenic acid molecules linked by a cysteamine bridging group.
When ingested, pantethine is hydrolyzed into cysteamine and pantothenic Acid. Cysteamine plays a role in supporting a healthy metabolism of cholesterol and triglycerides.

This is the Pantethine I take:
http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Pantethine-Supports-Metabolism/dp/B0013OXA4K
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 22, 2016, 06:35:16 am
the low-molecular-weight aminothiol cysteamine.


I was wondering where they got the bridge molecule there.  Looks like it may protect against cancer:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20654463

Looks like cysteamine is a downstream product of cysteine metabolism, so that's good:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteamine

"Cysteamine is the chemical compound with the formula HSCH2CH2NH2. It is the simplest stable aminothiol and a degradation product of the amino acid cysteine."

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Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 22, 2016, 09:13:04 am
This info. helped me come up with what I use.

Arousal involves transforming the sex drive into a signal from the brain to activate the genitals. Acetylcholine is involved in transmitting the signal through the parasympathetic nerves to the genitals. Nitric oxide (formed from L-arginine by Nitric Oxide Synthetase in nerves) is then released, activates the intracellular enzyme guanylyl cyclase, which then makes cyclic guanylate monophoasphate (cGMP), which relaxes vascular smooth muscle, opens blood flow, and causes and erection. cGMP's actions are terminated by Phosphodiesterase

Then just use Google and Peak Testosterone Site info.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 22, 2016, 11:59:16 am
Pantenthine has some pretty remarkable properties.  It helps with diabetes probably and, of course, also with lipids.  I didn't know it had so many superpowers.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 22, 2016, 01:52:17 pm
Pantethine is a premier energy boosting and metabolic support nutrient. It is a derivative of vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid). This derivative (pantetheine) is double bonded with sulfur to form the dietary supplement ingredient, pantethine. The sulfur bond enables pantethine to have special biological activity that vitamin B5 does not have.*

 Pantethine directly supports the normal formation of HDL cholesterol (helps make Apo A-I and Apo A-II that are needed to form HDL).* Pantethine also promotes the healthy function the enzyme called HMG CoA reductase, an important enzyme in the normal regulation of cholesterol.*
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 22, 2016, 05:24:46 pm
Pantethine is a premier energy boosting and metabolic support nutrient. It is a derivative of vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid). This derivative (pantetheine) is double bonded with sulfur to form the dietary supplement ingredient, pantethine. The sulfur bond enables pantethine to have special biological activity that vitamin B5 does not have.*

 Pantethine directly supports the normal formation of HDL cholesterol (helps make Apo A-I and Apo A-II that are needed to form HDL).* Pantethine also promotes the healthy function the enzyme called HMG CoA reductase, an important enzyme in the normal regulation of cholesterol.*

Wow.  What a hack.  Well, wait, you said that it is really pantothenic acid with the bridge between right?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Hoosier52 on March 23, 2016, 07:38:14 am
What dosages of each? Just ordered some and will give it a try. I also just started SubQ T Cyp. Any advice or cautions? Thanks.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 23, 2016, 09:39:17 am
 1 Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit), 
 1 Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens)  Solaray = 333mg.
 1 N-Acetyl Tyrosine   (Jarrow's Formulas) = 350mg.
 1 Doctors Best Natural Brain Enhancers (choline), = (GlyceroPhosphoCholine (GPC) = 300mg. Phosphatidylserine (PS) = 100mg.)
 1 Jarrow's  Pantethine = 450mg.
 2 Endothelial Defense with Full Spectrum Pomegranate and Cordiart
 2 Source Naturals L-Citrulline = 1000mg. Ea.
 Tadalafil (Cialis generic) take what you normally would take. I take 3mg.

Be careful and start slow, once I took 7mg. Tadalafil with the above and go so erect it burst a small vessel in penis head.

Advice on SubQ. 
If I don't inject at navel level and below it does not absorb as good, I if go above it leaves a nodule that is very slow to dissolve.
I don't have much body fat so the area above navel is more firm than below navel. Labs are much better with the below method
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 23, 2016, 11:51:39 am
I split out the question about injecting subQ into the gluts here:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=9661.0
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Zooka15 on March 23, 2016, 12:31:15 pm
With so many different forms of choline , will Lecithin work as well?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 23, 2016, 12:58:00 pm
With so many different forms of choline , will Lecithin work as well?

http://www.raysahelian.com/phospha.html

"Availability
Phosphatidylcholine is sold in the form of liquid, capsules, or granules. The amount in each product varies between different brands. The lecithin you buy in a health food store will generally include about 10 to 70 percent phosphatidylcholine, along with other lipids. Different types of lecithin will differ in their lipid compositions depending on the source of the lecithin — soy or egg yolk — or the extraction process. One product contains 1,200 mg of phosphatidylcholine in each capsule along with small amounts of other phospholipids."

Keep in mind this that there are some potential risks with PC itself but more work needs to be done to clarify a # of questions:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Phosphatidylcholine_Dangers.aspx

Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 23, 2016, 01:02:15 pm
I have tried Phosphatidylcholine instead of Doctors Best Brain Enhancers with Panethine, and yes it works just as good for erections.
But I only used on days I knew I was having sex.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Hoosier52 on March 27, 2016, 07:31:40 am
I posted this info on "The Marriage Bed" website. Here's the only response I got. I don't know enough about this to respond.



"Some of the information on those sites can be pretty misleading, or even ignorrant.

ACh is probably the most common neurotransmitter in the human body. Certainly, it is involved in sexual functions, but it is part of just about every other bodily function. It is quite literally involved at every level, both neuron to neuron, or neuron to muscle cell. I think it would be unlikely to find anyone who is deficient in any way, that still had muscle control to walk, sign their name, etc.

I would be very cautious in trying to alter anything in the CNS. Simple fact of the matter is that enough is just right, and more than enough can create issues. If you can walk, chew gum, etc, then you already have the right amount of ACh.

This is not one of those "more is better" things."
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 27, 2016, 09:05:24 am
I posted this info on "The Marriage Bed" website. Here's the only response I got. I don't know enough about this to respond.



"Some of the information on those sites can be pretty misleading, or even ignorrant.

ACh is probably the most common neurotransmitter in the human body. Certainly, it is involved in sexual functions, but it is part of just about every other bodily function. It is quite literally involved at every level, both neuron to neuron, or neuron to muscle cell. I think it would be unlikely to find anyone who is deficient in any way, that still had muscle control to walk, sign their name, etc.

I would be very cautious in trying to alter anything in the CNS. Simple fact of the matter is that enough is just right, and more than enough can create issues. If you can walk, chew gum, etc, then you already have the right amount of ACh.

This is not one of those "more is better" things."

I agree with being cautious.  However, my understanding is that acetylcholine decrease in aging:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-4159.1981.tb04484.x/abstract

"Acetylcholine (ACh) synthesis in vivo is known to decrease during the aging process (senescence). To elucidate the molecular mechanism(s) of this age-related decline, we studied brain slices from 3-, 10-, and 30-month-old mice of two strains (C57B1 and Balb/c). In low K+ media, oxidative metabolism as measured by 14CO2 production decreased with aging from 100% (3 months) to 85% (10 months) or 71% (30 months) whether [U−14C]glucose, [3,4-14C]glucose, or [l-14C]pyruvate was the substrate. In the aged brain (3 months) the increase in 14CO2 production with K+ stimulation was about twofold higher than in the young brain (3 months). Thus, in high K+ media, only slight decreases (<10%) in oxidative metabolism occurred with aging. Changes in ACh synthesis paralleled the decreases in 14CO2 production. Synthesis of [14C]ACh from [U-14C]glucose in low K+ media declined from 100% (3 months) to 85% (10 months) or 66% (30 months), while in high K+ media only slight decreases (<10.5%) occurred with aging. The Ca2+-dependent, K+-stimulated release of [14C]ACh declined from 100% (3 months) to 58% (10 months) or 25% (30 months). Only the decrease in the release of ACh declined to the same extent as the reduced in vivo synthesis of ACh with aging. The results suggest that decreases in oxidative metabolism, ACh synthesis, and in the release of ACh contribute to a reduction in cholinergic function in the senescent brain."

There are many other animal studies verifying the same thing.

So, yes, you have to be really cautious with the CNS.  But Ach declines with aging and keep in mind that JustAskin is in his 60's.  (JustAskin can verify but I think I'm right!)

Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Hoosier52 on March 29, 2016, 07:48:00 am
Has anyone tried this? I'd like to know if it works or not. What possible bad side effects could this formula produce?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: roadglide on March 29, 2016, 10:47:47 am
Doesn't APS or Empower pharmacy sell a troche dopamine drug. Would this work as well without having to take so many different items?

Also isn't there a drug call Vasoril or Vigimed that does the same thing?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 29, 2016, 12:11:09 pm
I split out roadglide's question about apomorphine:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=9705.msg84868#msg84868
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: roadglide on March 29, 2016, 01:58:58 pm
So what is the percentage of guys that will benefit from this stack? It's not very common or discussed much. I plan on trying it.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 29, 2016, 03:59:23 pm
So what is the percentage of guys that will benefit from this stack? It's not very common or discussed much. I plan on trying it.

My guess is that it will help men that are 45+ the most.  He's targetting acetylcholine, dopamine and endothelial function, all of which decay pretty significantly with age.  Oh and Mao-B rises with age.  Some Mao-B inhibitors have the "cheese effect", i.e. you should take them with tryamine foods.  JustAskin - what does the supplement manufacturer say about this?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: roadglide on March 29, 2016, 06:02:17 pm
So what is the percentage of guys that will benefit from this stack? It's not very common or discussed much. I plan on trying it.

My guess is that it will help men that are 45+ the most.  He's targetting acetylcholine, dopamine and endothelial function, all of which decay pretty significantly with age.  Oh and Mao-B rises with age.  Some Mao-B inhibitors have the "cheese effect", i.e. you should take them with tryamine foods.  JustAskin - what does the supplement manufacturer say about this?

Thanks Peak, I know 45 was mentioned earlier.  I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: roadglide on March 29, 2016, 06:11:19 pm
JustAskin or anyone,

Is this something you take daily or just when needed for sexual activity?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Hoosier52 on March 29, 2016, 06:34:46 pm
Ok, I purchased all of these supplements. Should I start with one in particular and add the others slowly or try to take all of them? I'd rather err on the side of caution.

Thanks
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 29, 2016, 09:43:12 pm
Ok, I purchased all of these supplements. Should I start with one in particular and add the others slowly or try to take all of them? I'd rather err on the side of caution.

Thanks

Imo always roll in supplements one at a time and give each one at least 3 weeks.   
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on March 30, 2016, 06:54:57 am
I do not take Daily, only take all on day when expecting sex.
I forgot to mention before, My Morning Smoothie has Maca.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Hoosier52 on March 30, 2016, 07:12:43 am
I do not take Daily, only take all on day when expecting sex.
I forgot to mention before, My Morning Smoothie has Maca.

Ok. What is your schedule for non-sex days? Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Hoosier52 on March 31, 2016, 06:55:50 am
All of the supplements arrived from Swanson. I'm starting off by trying the Avena Sativa. Anyone have any experience using this?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: roadglide on March 31, 2016, 10:00:16 am
I do not take Daily, only take all on day when expecting sex.
I forgot to mention before, My Morning Smoothie has Maca.

Do you take them in the morning or fight before sex?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 01, 2016, 01:42:59 pm
Took in am 20 minutes before food:  Dopa-Mind  to block  MAO-B(dopa inhibit) Tadalafil 5 mg. + Dopa-Bean, + Doctors Best Brain Enhancers, +Tyrosine.
 Breakfast:  Smoothie that contained:  Super Beet and Maca, Arugula, Carrots, celery.
 11am. Dopa-Mind, Dopa-Bean +  Pantethine +  2 L-Citrulline.
Sex a 1pm.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 01, 2016, 05:49:36 pm
Took in am 20 minutes before food:  Dopa-Mind  to block  MAO-B(dopa inhibit) Tadalafil 5 mg. + Dopa-Bean, + Doctors Best Brain Enhancers, +Tyrosine.
 Breakfast:  Smoothie that contained:  Super Beet and Maca, Arugula, Carrots, celery.
 11am. Dopa-Mind, Dopa-Bean +  Pantethine +  2 L-Citrulline.
Sex a 1pm.

See?  You can have fun with chemistry!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 02, 2016, 05:03:44 am
I forgot Endothelial Defense. and Protein in Smoothie.

Took in am 20 minutes before food:  Dopa-Mind  to block  MAO-B) Tadalafil 5 mg. + Dopa-Bean, + Doctors Best Brain Enhancers, +Tyrosine + 2 Endothelial Defense.
 Breakfast:  Smoothie that contained:  Super Beet and Maca, Arugula, Carrots, celery + Protein.
 11am. Dopa-Mind, Dopa-Bean +  Pantethine +  2 L-Citrulline.
Sex a 1pm.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: jerseyjake on April 02, 2016, 05:41:34 pm
Excuse me, but couldn't all or most of the erectile benefits be attributed to Tadalafil alone?  How good is the response without the Tadalafil?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 02, 2016, 08:23:13 pm
Excuse me, but couldn't all or most of the erectile benefits be attributed to Tadalafil alone?  How good is the response without the Tadalafil?

Well, I'll let JustAskin answer for himself, but here is the problem that some of us have with Cialis use:  the results fade.  This is probably mostly due to the following effect that some experts have discussed:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cialis_Dependency.aspx

So you'll see guys on here looking for natural alternatives to stack on top of Cialis in order to overcome this effect. 

(Of course, it can also be from a worsening of atheroslcerosis, psychogenic issues, etc.  You can't always blame Cialis.)
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 04, 2016, 04:38:13 am
I do take Tadalafil with these supplements.
With Cialis (Tadalafil) you get an erection, Sometime good and sometimes not so good, sometimes great feeling and others not so good.
With these supplements " ( I )"  have Erection that have Sensitivity  like in my early 20's. 
I actually get sore from being so full. 
As you will notice I do NOT take everyday, about 3 times per Wk.

P.S. I don't know if results are typical, but for me it is amazing.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 04, 2016, 05:25:45 am
Check out this link:    http://blog.lifeextension.com/2011/10/how-to-naturally-enhance-libido-through.html

this is where I got inspiration for my supplements.

AGAIN: I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO TAKE ANY OF THESE!  This is what works for me, I will be 67 in July. I did not need any of this including TRT before 45.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 04, 2016, 09:24:53 am
Check out this link:    http://blog.lifeextension.com/2011/10/how-to-naturally-enhance-libido-through.html

this is where I got inspiration for my supplements.

AGAIN: I AM NOT TELLING YOU TO TAKE ANY OF THESE!  This is what works for me, I will be 67 in July. I did not need any of this including TRT before 45.

Interesting stuff as always JustAskin.  One comment I have is that the likely root cause of issues for us senior guys is the buildup of the MAO enzyme.  As I think i mentioned, what happens in the aging brain is that this enzyme builds up due to the a) loss of neurons and b) increase in glial cells according to Dr. Knoll and this has been verified in abudant research.  What happens when MAO-B builds up?  Well, to jump to the end of the story, it dampens your sertonin and dopamine output.  He cites lots of animal and human studies to verify that this is what causes the loss of sexual ability and interest in aging males - both mice and men.

Hey, guess what?  I took pantethine yesterday to try to bump down my LDL by 5-10%.  That would be perfect for me because my last LDL was 91 I believe.  But guess what?  I had a really weird headache yesterday.  I rarely get headaches and so this seemed coincidental with taking pantethine.  I did a search and quite a few forums complain about that.  So I just may not be able to take it. Dang!

Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 04, 2016, 09:43:58 am
Maybe you could start with Pantothenic acid instead of Pantethine and get your body use to it, then try to move to Pantethine.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 04, 2016, 09:49:14 am
I know Pantothenic acid  (B5) does not have the same cholesterol lowering properties  but it will have the same effect in the Stack with Choline.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 04, 2016, 09:51:30 am
Maybe you could start with Pantothenic acid instead of Pantethine and get your body use to it, then try to move to Pantethine.

Actually, I want to repeat the experiment again in a week.  You know how it is:  you blame something new but don't realize that it really had nothing to do with that.

And, again, thx for all the ideas.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: roadglide on April 04, 2016, 07:35:40 pm
Yea dang good thread.  Thanks for sharing JustAskin!  I better wait on the  Pantethine, just had labs and my LDL is 54.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 05, 2016, 03:03:48 am
Pantothenic acid  (B5) does not have the same cholesterol lowering properties but works to enhance choline.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 05, 2016, 11:54:47 am
Pantothenic acid  (B5) does not have the same cholesterol lowering properties but works to enhance choline.

Noted.  I took a lot of heavy duty, old school antihistamines back in the day - this was prior to the second generation antihistamines.  My memory - particularly verbal - has always been horrible and I've wondered if this was part of the reason.  So what I'm getting at is I got nowhere to go but up with this neurotransmitter!

I also took boron the day I got that headache.  I remembered that later.  Can't imagine boron would cause a problem after one day tho!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 07, 2016, 10:00:26 am
I had to go with Vitamin Shoppe brand, Comes in 3mg.
I tried Ionic Liquid Boron in the blue bottle, That stuff tore my stomach up and caused severe head ache.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: roadglide on April 08, 2016, 11:39:48 am
Took in am 20 minutes before food:  Dopa-Mind  to block  MAO-B(dopa inhibit) Tadalafil 5 mg. + Dopa-Bean, + Doctors Best Brain Enhancers, +Tyrosine.
 Breakfast:  Smoothie that contained:  Super Beet and Maca, Arugula, Carrots, celery.
 11am. Dopa-Mind, Dopa-Bean +  Pantethine +  2 L-Citrulline.
Sex a 1pm.

Was thinking about trying this stack tomorrow, but noticed you mentioned first taking one of each on page one and in this post once on the AM and again at 11. I'll start out slow and find out what works best for me, but was wondering why you split it up.

How long does it take to kick in and how long does it last?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on April 08, 2016, 12:25:50 pm
I take morning to start the process, and 2 hrs. before sex to finish, and absolutely be ready.
How long does it take minimum 45 minutes. prefer 1 1/2 hrs. after taking.
Remember you are affecting 3 things, so 1 at a time probably will not work.
You are Affecting:  Dopamine the Pleasure, Nitric Oxide blood flow,  and acetylcholine the  neurotransmitter that carries the sexual message.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: mqsymth on April 30, 2016, 02:51:01 pm
The problem with adding choline is it is not good for prostate cancer.

Choline intake and risk of lethal prostate cancer: incidence and survival
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3441112/

[MODERATOR SPLIT FROM HERE: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=9635.0 ]

The neurotransmitter that carries the sexual message is acetylcholine (ACh). ACh also seems to control sexual behavior through its activity in the brain.
For women, ACh is also a very important part of sexual function.
One way to safely and effectively enhance ACh levels is to take supplements of choline, along with vitamin B5, (pantethine)
So that the body will manufacture more Ach.

This is what I have been taking and it works if: Your T, E2, SHBG, DHT, and others are in a good place.

Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit), 
Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens) 
Tyrosine 
Doctors Best Brain Enhancers (choline),
Pantethine
L-Citrulline

If you raise Dopamine and Nitric Oxide,  Libido and Especially Erection Quality go way up.

[MODERATOR'S CAUTION:  If you have any medical condition or are on any medication, always ask your physician first!  Also, later in this thread JustAskin wrote that "I do not take Daily, only take all on day when expecting sex.  I forgot to mention before, My Morning Smoothie has Maca."]
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 30, 2016, 04:18:45 pm
The problem with adding choline is it is not good for prostate cancer.

Choline intake and risk of lethal prostate cancer: incidence and survival
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3441112/

[MODERATOR SPLIT FROM HERE: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=9635.0 ]

The neurotransmitter that carries the sexual message is acetylcholine (ACh). ACh also seems to control sexual behavior through its activity in the brain.
For women, ACh is also a very important part of sexual function.
One way to safely and effectively enhance ACh levels is to take supplements of choline, along with vitamin B5, (pantethine)
So that the body will manufacture more Ach.

This is what I have been taking and it works if: Your T, E2, SHBG, DHT, and others are in a good place.

Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit), 
Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens) 
Tyrosine 
Doctors Best Brain Enhancers (choline),
Pantethine
L-Citrulline

If you raise Dopamine and Nitric Oxide,  Libido and Especially Erection Quality go way up.

[MODERATOR'S CAUTION:  If you have any medical condition or are on any medication, always ask your physician first!  Also, later in this thread JustAskin wrote that "I do not take Daily, only take all on day when expecting sex.  I forgot to mention before, My Morning Smoothie has Maca."]

The above study is about the best we can do with humans, because it would be unethical to actually administer choline and see if PC increased.  That said, it is not the most accurate study.

Choline may also increase TMAO, which is currently under heavy investigation for accelerating arterial plaque and heart disease.  But I think that JustAskin would argue that he's not doing this every night.  The counterargument to that point is that what choline / carnitine (controversially) do is negatively alter gut flora.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: ghce on September 02, 2016, 09:34:58 pm
Has any one else had good results on this stack?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on September 03, 2016, 03:36:31 am
I have done this on (Sex Days) since Early March, and it Never Disappoints.
Again I do not use daily!
 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on September 03, 2016, 07:18:29 am
I have done this on (Sex Days) since Early March, and it Never Disappoints.
Again I do not use daily!
Thx JustAskin.  Love your gen'l philosophy.  On another thread I was pointing out that guys over about 45 have to pull their hormones, neurotransmitters, antioxidants, etc. into more youthful ranges if they want to perform youthfully.  You've really focused on the first two and obviously proven that it can work.  So kudos for the n-1 research!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tyro on October 17, 2016, 12:33:27 am
Great Post, JustAskin!
Newby here. I'd love to try this as soon as possible, but i've noticed that someone else here said i should start on one for the three weeks and then add another supplement etc....that would take months and months.
What is the quickest way to get into this with a full stack?
What about introducing a new supplement every two to three days?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Cataceous on October 17, 2016, 06:19:28 am
The main problem with adding a bunch of supplements in a short period is that you'll have no idea which ones caused which effects, good or bad. And it can take at least a week or two to feel the full effects of some supplements. That said, it's not a hard and fast rule. Maybe you'll get good results without much trial and error. For me some of the ingredients tend to promote insomnia.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tyro on October 21, 2016, 05:23:10 pm
Jusst Askin...I have read and re read this thread about 5 times now, but I have a question for you. Sorry in advance if you have already mentioned it but I couldn't find it.
You nentioned DMAE, but I couldn't find what time you took it on your sex days.
Thanks for the great work and persistence in coming up with your solution for good sex in our more mature years.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on October 23, 2016, 05:25:38 am
DMAE also thought to alter levels of acetylcholine in the brain, Some have commented they did not like taking Phosphatidylcholine, DMAE is just a different option.
Would take when my stack says Phosphatidylcholine.
Again I take this Stack in the AM. only days I am planning to have sex. Not everyday.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on October 23, 2016, 09:17:11 am
DMAE also thought to alter levels of acetylcholine in the brain, Some have commented they did not like taking Phosphatidylcholine, DMAE is just a different option.
Would take when my stack says Phosphatidylcholine.
Again I take this Stack in the AM. only days I am planning to have sex. Not everyday.

fyi:  I just added a little PC to my regimen and will probably try pantethine again.  As I think you know, I got a headache after but wasn't sure if it was that or the boron.  So I'm slowly trying some of your "stack" over the months. 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tyro on November 14, 2016, 03:00:27 pm
I tried JustAskins erection formula a couple of days ago. Well almost...I had everything except the Doctors Best Brain Enhancer. I know this is an essential part of the stack being an acetylcholine precursor but I thought I'd try it anyway. It's still on the way.
Well the results were impressive. I'm 71 with diabetes type 2. I have suffered from ED for at least 20 years but worst of all was decreased penile sensitivity. I could masturbate to orgasm but couldn't achieve orgasm through intercourse.
I followed the timing of JustAskins regime and achieved good erection but not rock hard which I guess was due to lack of acetylcholine precursor.  My penis sensitivity was greatly enhanced however and I almost ejaculated during intercourse. It was the closest I'd been in years.
I'm confident that when the doctors best brain enhancer arrives it'll do the trick and I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tyro on November 14, 2016, 07:55:37 pm
Does anyone have any opinions or thoughts on adding GABA to JustAskins stack? Your
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tyro on November 16, 2016, 02:53:23 pm
Thanks for the tip JustAskin. I tried to reply to your message but was unable to do so.
Cheers
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Arginine on November 18, 2016, 11:29:55 am
So if my T is high E2 is normal, all other hormones normal, but I have no libido it can be cause low dopamine? What I should try at first? L-dopa? L-theaine?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on November 20, 2016, 05:03:03 am
When you say your T is high, what level is high?
As Dr. Shippen says More is not Better.  He allowed me to play with different levels since everyone thinks upper range is the best, I went to 1200, Not Good.
He likes to keep people between 600-800. 
I stay around 700 give or take 50 and do great. My age is 67 and with my stack I can have sex anytime like in my 20"s.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on January 01, 2017, 05:13:55 pm
I split out a question for Just Askin here about why 1200 was not good for him:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=11780.0
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tnthudson on January 19, 2017, 08:57:52 am
I forgot Endothelial Defense. and Protein in Smoothie.

Took in am 20 minutes before food:  Dopa-Mind  to block  MAO-B) Tadalafil 5 mg. + Dopa-Bean, + Doctors Best Brain Enhancers, +Tyrosine + 2 Endothelial Defense.
 Breakfast:  Smoothie that contained:  Super Beet and Maca, Arugula, Carrots, celery + Protein.
 11am. Dopa-Mind, Dopa-Bean +  Pantethine +  2 L-Citrulline.
Sex a 1pm.

Hope it's okay to bump this. I read this thread again today, planning to get the supps. My question is: JustAskin, you mentioned that DMAE could be used in place of the Phosphatidylserine where you list Phosphatidylserine in your stack, but I'm not seeing Phosphatidylserine listed in the schedule?  Sorry in advance if I missed it somewhere.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on January 19, 2017, 02:51:43 pm
DMAE is a precursor to choline and acetylcholine. 
I don't remember stating I used Phosphatidylserine in my stack.
What I think works best is Phosphatidylcholine Pharmacy Grade.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Cataceous on January 19, 2017, 07:08:43 pm
DMAE is a precursor to choline and acetylcholine. 
I don't remember stating I used Phosphatidylserine in my stack.
What I think works best is Phosphatidylcholine Pharmacy Grade.

Actually you said you used it, just not by name. It's in the DB Brain Enhancers formula along with GPC. I appreciate that you called these two substances to my attention. I take them both now, but separately because I find PS is good before bed and GPC is good in the morning.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on January 19, 2017, 07:45:29 pm
I just ordered this stack today.  Can't wait to try it out. 

1 Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit), 
 1 Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens)  Solaray = 333mg.
 1 N-Acetyl Tyrosine   (Jarrow's Formulas) = 350mg.
 1 Doctors Best Natural Brain Enhancers (choline),
 1 Jarrow's  Pantethine = 450mg.
 2 Source Naturals L-Citrulline = 1000mg. Ea.
1 DMAE

This ended up costing $117 on Iherb.com. 

I decided to skip the  Endothelial Defense with Full Spectrum Pomegranate and Cordiart.  Is a bit pricey for me. 
 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on January 20, 2017, 06:06:27 am
If you want to have even more erect take 2 Dopa-Mind.
You can order Nitro-Vasc with Cordiart and just drink some Pom. will do same. Plus the Nitro-Vasc is much cheaper. Cordiart enhances N.O.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on January 20, 2017, 06:32:27 pm
Good to know.  Thanks for the tip
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on January 20, 2017, 07:09:31 pm
Guys, I'm in.  I orderd a few of these myself.  I've already been taking phophatidylcholine, but I got the DMAE as experiment as well.  I have pantethine, but I think it gave me a headache, so I'm not sure if I'll try that again.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tnthudson on January 24, 2017, 10:28:27 am
I'm in too. Thanks so much for the info, JustAskin, and for sticky-ing this, PeakT.
I've been having some trouble lately staying erect through the entire session, so I'm hoping this will help do the trick. I will check in and update, as well.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on January 24, 2017, 06:32:35 pm
Here's my experience so far.  I am taking this stack in the morning.
1 Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit), 
 1 Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens)  Solaray = 333mg.
 1 N-Acetyl Tyrosine   (Jarrow's Formulas) = 350mg.
 1 Doctors Best Natural Brain Enhancers (choline),
1  DMAE
 1 Jarrow's  Pantethine = 450mg.
 2 Source Naturals L-Citrulline = 1000mg. Ea.
 
My experience has been a good news/bad news kind of thing.  I have used this stack for 4 days in a row.  I took all of the above pills listed. 

First the bad news:  I did not notice much of an effect on my sexual performance.  I was not any more sensitive than before.  I did notice a little bit better ability to hold wood.  Not a dramatic difference, but noticeable. 

Now the good news:  I was really surprised at what this stuff did for my mental focus.  It is really amazing.  Its effect is sort of like drinking a strong cup of coffee, only without the anxiety and jitters that you can get with caffeine. And the effect lasted much longer than what coffee would, easily 5 hours.  I felt more motivated.  More mentally clear.  Better able to focus.  More optimistic.  This is good stuff. 

The stack cost me $117.  It will probably last 2-3 months.  It’s not cheap.  But I think it is worth it and I will likely continue to use it.

Now just to highlight how individual reactions can differ, I had my wife take the stack yesterday.  She hated it.  It made her anxious and grumpy.  She was more awake than usual, but was pretty cranky.  What this tells me is that she does not have any dopamine deficiency and the extra in the pills was not helping.  Whereas I believe that I do have a dopamine deficiency and the stack helped out with it.  That's why I feel better on it and she doesn't.  That's my theory anyway. 

I want to thank Justaskin for sharing his research with us.  I am giving this a thumbs up.   I think it is worth the expense to try it out to see if you benefit. 

Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on January 27, 2017, 06:22:13 am
Joe Sixpack
I noticed something omitted from what you are taking verses what I take.  Tadalafil (Cialis generic) take what you normally would take. I take 3mg.
Taking Tadalafil plus the other will get you ready and then the other will enhance the experience.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tnthudson on January 27, 2017, 06:46:26 am
I have another question.
I'm not sure how much timing matters, but JustAskin, I noticed that you take the first round of supplements before breakfast, then the second round two hours before sex, which occurs at 1:00 pm.
If I am expecting to have sex in the evening, say 7:00 pm for example, how would you adjust the timing?
I'm assuming I would still take the second round of supplements two hours before sex, BUT what about the first round?

Would it be better to take the first round before breakfast, or should I perhaps take the first round between breakfast and lunch?

thanks again!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on January 27, 2017, 11:17:09 am
I would still take the first round before breakfast.
Do not forget the Cialis or what ever you take. 
Stack has to do with Desire, Nitric Oxide, and Erection Strength. Stack alone will not cause an erection, only make the whole experience so much better.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tnthudson on January 27, 2017, 11:59:51 am
Great! Thank you so much!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Olijack on January 29, 2017, 05:25:34 pm
this is very interesting. I have tried supplements that act on dopamine including tyrosine. Everytime I feel good the first couple days but then get the most groggy, mental fog I have ever experienced. I almost went home from work one day because of it.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on January 29, 2017, 08:26:00 pm
Joe Sixpack
I noticed something omitted from what you are taking verses what I take.  Tadalafil (Cialis generic) take what you normally would take. I take 3mg.
Taking Tadalafil plus the other will get you ready and then the other will enhance the experience.
Thanks JustAskin.  Today I added a small amount of Cialis, like 1 or maybe 1.5 mg.  That combined with the stack was really bonerific.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on January 30, 2017, 05:36:55 am
Now if you want your Wife to have a Terrific Day,  Give her a 25mg.  Pregnenolone   (Pure Encapsulation). I use this brand because Dr. Shippen suggested and it is Pharmacy Grade.
Not everyday.
The first time I gave my wife this was in a cup of orange juice without her knowing.
We went to the gym and on the way she was singing and talking about how vivid the colors were today, and she felt so calm.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on January 30, 2017, 06:19:22 am
One other thing, if you want to prolong the experience, Rub a Very Small amount of Aquaphor on the head, Not the shaft. and Not much, but with it you can last as long as your stamina will let you.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on January 30, 2017, 09:06:22 pm
One other thing, if you want to prolong the experience, Rub a Very Small amount of Aquaphor on the head, Not the shaft. and Not much, but with it you can last as long as your stamina will let you.
That might be counterproductive for me.  I have trouble with low sensitivity.   It sometimes feels almost as if I am wearing a condom, if you recall how that can deaden the sensation.  Or are you suggesting the Aquaphor might IMPROVE sensation? 

My wife is usually game for experiments.  I'll see if she'll try the pregnenalone.  Sounds like it did nice things for your wife!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on January 31, 2017, 10:12:37 am
Aquaphor will NOT make more sensation, Some people say they get off to quick, that would be for them.
I only use it if it has been close to a week since sex, to be sure she goes first.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on February 01, 2017, 06:51:03 pm
Aquaphor will NOT make more sensation, Some people say they get off to quick, that would be for them.
I only use it if it has been close to a week since sex, to be sure she goes first.
Got it.  Yeah, I won't need to use the Aquaphor then!  The wife and me have sex 3 times/week.  I never get that backed up that I would need to be less sensative.  Sunday, Wednesday and Friday come hell or high water, we're doing the nasty. 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on February 02, 2017, 10:19:20 am
Interested to know how She was with the Pregnenolone.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on February 02, 2017, 05:05:40 pm
My libido has been up the last few days as I started back on Arimidex and HCG.  So this morning I decided to try JustAskin's stack.  So I added in the following:

--1 DopaMind
--1 L-Tyrosine (JustAskin uses a different form)
--1 DopaBean
--I Pantethine

NOTE:  I already take phosphatidylcholine daily.

All I can say is that I forgot what it was like to be 19 again!  Good lord I've been about to go out of my mind.

I actually regretted having caffiene as I kind of got the jitters from it.

So pretty impressive JustAskin, although this stuff could get a guy in trouble!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: ghce on February 02, 2017, 06:40:14 pm
Is there any reason not to take this stack (and its minor variations) every day?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on February 02, 2017, 07:05:23 pm
Is there any reason not to take this stack (and its minor variations) every day?

I have two personal answers:

--No long term studies on things like olive leaf extract as far as I know.

--Keep dopamine receptors fully sensitized.  Macuna and tyrosine usually fade after a day or two for example.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on February 02, 2017, 08:15:25 pm
Interested to know how She was with the Pregnenolone.
Thanks for the reminder.  I forgot to have her take it.  Bug me again if you have not heard from me in a week on this. 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: JustAskin on February 03, 2017, 06:01:50 am
If she likes the effect and wants to take more often than 1-2 times per week.
 "Women taking more often should only take 10mg."
My wife loves the effect and takes 10mg. 3 times per week. 
But the effect is like my stack if you take it daily either you get used to the feeling and don't notice the change it makes or its effect diminishes.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on February 04, 2017, 07:08:01 pm
My wife was game for the preg.  I gave her 25mg.  She didn't get any positives from it.  And sadly she ended up w/ a migraine.  I'm not convinced that the preg gave her the migraine.  She gets them quite a bit anyway.  But she didn't have a headache before she took the preg, and 3 hours later she did. 

In any event, nothing good came out of it.  Which is disappointing.  I was hoping she'd have a positive experience like your wife did. 

It was worth a try.  As I mentioned before, she didn't have a good experience w/ the dopamine stack either.  I guess her body is sensitive to stuff like this.  She does take Rhodiola as an adrenal adaptogen and has no issues w/ that.  So I'm not sure what her problem w/ the dopa stack is. 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on February 08, 2017, 09:38:02 am
I have taken DMAE and nothing else in JustAskin's stack for the last couple of nights.  The result?  Massive improvements in morning erections!  Last night I was worried about priapism.  I have always wondered if I have ACh issues due to the huge amounts of old school antihistamines I took as a kid.  Looks like that might be the case. The quality of my sleep has improved as well.  Now I did start up on the low dose deprenyl again, but I don't think that's it based on past experience.  So we will see if this keep going - hope so!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Osprey on February 08, 2017, 10:55:07 am
I have taken DMAE and nothing else in JustAskin's stack for the last couple of nights.  The result?  Massive improvements in morning erections!  Last night I was worried about priapism.  I have always wondered if I have ACh issues due to the huge amounts of old school antihistamines I took as a kid.  Looks like that might be the case. The quality of my sleep has improved as well.  Now I did start up on the low dose deprenyl again, but I don't think that's it based on past experience.  So we will see if this keep going - hope so!

What dose of DMAE are you taking?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on February 08, 2017, 05:13:42 pm
I have taken DMAE and nothing else in JustAskin's stack for the last couple of nights.  The result?  Massive improvements in morning erections!  Last night I was worried about priapism.  I have always wondered if I have ACh issues due to the huge amounts of old school antihistamines I took as a kid.  Looks like that might be the case. The quality of my sleep has improved as well.  Now I did start up on the low dose deprenyl again, but I don't think that's it based on past experience.  So we will see if this keep going - hope so!

Dmae  130mg from 351mg dmae bitartrate

What dose of DMAE are you taking?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on February 09, 2017, 06:54:21 pm
I have taken DMAE and nothing else in JustAskin's stack for the last couple of nights.  The result?  Massive improvements in morning erections!  Last night I was worried about priapism.  I have always wondered if I have ACh issues due to the huge amounts of old school antihistamines I took as a kid.  Looks like that might be the case. The quality of my sleep has improved as well.  Now I did start up on the low dose deprenyl again, but I don't think that's it based on past experience.  So we will see if this keep going - hope so!

Dmae  130mg from 351mg dmae bitartrate

What dose of DMAE are you taking?
Do you think that the effects of DMAE will wear off?  If you take some of the stuff in Justins stack every day, the positive effects seem to wear off.  Is DMAE not like that?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on February 09, 2017, 10:02:28 pm
I have taken DMAE and nothing else in JustAskin's stack for the last couple of nights.  The result?  Massive improvements in morning erections!  Last night I was worried about priapism.  I have always wondered if I have ACh issues due to the huge amounts of old school antihistamines I took as a kid.  Looks like that might be the case. The quality of my sleep has improved as well.  Now I did start up on the low dose deprenyl again, but I don't think that's it based on past experience.  So we will see if this keep going - hope so!

Dmae  130mg from 351mg dmae bitartrate

What dose of DMAE are you taking?
Do you think that the effects of DMAE will wear off?  If you take some of the stuff in Justins stack every day, the positive effects seem to wear off.  Is DMAE not like that?

Three nights in a row it has worked for me.  I take it around 9 pm.  Another remarkable thing:  I only slept 5 hours last night and I still had a morning erection. So we will see but so far so good.  Again, no idea about long term safety: I have only done a little research on it.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tnthudson on February 22, 2017, 07:38:28 am
Well, here is my report so far:
I have tried JustAskin's stack for 3 weekends now (and THANKS again for sharing it!)
I had been having trouble for maybe 6 weeks or so keeping an erection, much moreso than usual. It was really getting to me mentally, so I got everything in the stack right off the bat and tried it as JustAskin recommended.
Weekend 1- Not very stellar, in fact, I'm not sure I noticed anything at all.
It works out best for my wife and I to have sex on the weekends, so I tried it again weekend 2 -- somewhat better, in fact I was able to maintain an erection through finishing, which was good. Again, this was really messing with me mentally so it was better than nothing, but still not as good as even a couple of months before had been. I'm not sure what is going on with me.
Weekend 3 (this past weekend). I changed things up a bit in that I went with Kamagra (generic effervescent Viagra) rather than Staxyn. Staxyn had been great for me, but again, not so much for the last several weeks.
The first night I did JustAskin's stack and took maybe 25mg of Kamagra. Decent results but I still had trouble.
So the second night I repeated JustAskin's stack and upped to 50 mg Kamagra.
The results weren't just great, they were SPECTACULAR. A very long, good, intense time was had, and I do believe sensitivity was better as well as the overall quality and hardness of the erection.  And if the erection subsided any, it didn't take much at all to get it back.
Now- I've never tried Kamagra before this, so maybe it was all due to that, but I have to believe the stack helped out since this was so over the top. And besides, I didn't have the flushing or stuffiness or any of the side effects that I've had in the past with ED meds (I did the first day of the weekend, but not the second day).
So I will try this stack again with Kamagra this weekend and see how it goes. I figure even IF the stack doesn't help me with ED, it's still good ingredients that I want to finish out anyway (I have some trouble with cholesterol, triglycerides, blood pressure, anxiety, etc.).
But I'm thinking this is a great sign, particularly since I've had so much trouble lately before this last weekend.
I'll try to report in again after this weekend with any updates.
Thanks again for the great info.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, my libido has been through the roof since the weekend (and daily morning erections), so I'm not sure if something 'triggered' with everything finally kicking in, but I'm definitely in better shape so far this week than I have been any of the recent weeks.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on February 22, 2017, 07:56:54 pm
Weekend 3 (this past weekend). I changed things up a bit in that I went with Kamagra (generic effervescent Viagra) rather than Staxyn.

Kamagra.  This is new to me.  Is it cheaper than Viagra?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Rustar on March 01, 2017, 09:46:40 pm
There is SO much to read and learn. I'm only posting to see how this works. (not justa newbie....I've never "forumed") Guess the smart thing is hang around you Srs. and not annoy you any further. :)
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 02, 2017, 07:48:12 am
There is SO much to read and learn. I'm only posting to see how this works. (not justa newbie....I've never "forumed") Guess the smart thing is hang around you Srs. and not annoy you any further. :)

Not too many Grumpy Old Men on here.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: tnthudson on March 03, 2017, 02:33:40 pm
Weekend 3 (this past weekend). I changed things up a bit in that I went with Kamagra (generic effervescent Viagra) rather than Staxyn.

Kamagra.  This is new to me.  Is it cheaper than Viagra?

Yeah it's 'overseas'...this kind is effervescent but I think they have different types of mediums for it now. I tried generic cialis before and it gave me some effects I didn't like (very sore throat among them). But so far, knock on wood, this stuff works and no bad effects that I've noticed.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Baller34 on March 20, 2017, 11:22:58 am
JustAskin, thanks for the stack.  Has anyone tried it who is not on HRT?  Any results?  I am currently not on HRT, but in the middle of some serious ED.  So weird.  Been married to my girl for 40 years, I know I am low T 250-300, but function has always been there.  Went to CA for the month of Jan, and maybe it was the sun, and being outside, but it was terrific wood and sex.  Came home and been dealing with ED for the last month.  Feels like the off switch was thrown in my head.  Either the sun is incredibly powerful, or something as changed, and I can't figure it out.  So I may try the stack with and without Cialis, which I hardly ever use.  I prescription of 2.5 mg Cialis lasts me two years.  Just curious if anyone has tried JustAskin's stack not on HRT, and without Cialis?  Thanks, and I love this forum.  BTW, I am 62 and know my T has been in this range for at least ten years. 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on March 21, 2017, 06:52:46 pm
Split out an involved question having a lot more to do than just JustAskin's stack:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=12343.0
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Texon on April 03, 2017, 06:59:38 am
@justaskin Hi all.  I'm brand new to this forum, so I picked this thread because it seemed to have the most recent post from justaskin.  JA I am 65 lean/in shape, bike a lot with weights thrown in the mix....surprised to hear no one is using small amounts of plain niacin (very cheap also) to vastly enhance erection and sensitivity.  Can't imagine what might happen if citrulline is taken at the same time. Plain niacin causes a flush so I only use about 25 mg. 20 mins or so before sex and the facial heat is tolerable.  Supposed to work with women too but it just caused my wife to have a bad flush and nothing else.  Will dmae help with sleep? Because mine has been horrible lately due to taking too much tudca recently for some liver issues.  Btw I'm on TRT and my labs a couple weeks ago from memory were total t 1148, dheas 119 and rising, sensitive e2 of 20 with no adex...just a lot of citrus  , chamomile tea, etc.  T dosing is 25 mg test cyp E4D in thigh with 28g diabetes syringe.  Sex drive is great but sensitivity is low without the niacin.  I will not likely retire because I have 6 kids and my youngest will be 11 in July.  Would love comments from JA and anyone else who wants to weigh in.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 03, 2017, 08:18:09 am
@justaskin Hi all.  I'm brand new to this forum, so I picked this thread because it seemed to have the most recent post from justaskin.  JA I am 65 lean/in shape, bike a lot with weights thrown in the mix....surprised to hear no one is using small amounts of plain niacin (very cheap also) to vastly enhance erection and sensitivity.  Can't imagine what might happen if citrulline is taken at the same time. Plain niacin causes a flush so I only use about 25 mg. 20 mins or so before sex and the facial heat is tolerable.  Supposed to work with women too but it just caused my wife to have a bad flush and nothing else.  Will dmae help with sleep? Because mine has been horrible lately due to taking too much tudca recently for some liver issues.  Btw I'm on TRT and my labs a couple weeks ago from memory were total t 1148, dheas 119 and rising, sensitive e2 of 20 with no adex...just a lot of citrus  , chamomile tea, etc.  T dosing is 25 mg test cyp E4D in thigh with 28g diabetes syringe.  Sex drive is great but sensitivity is low without the niacin.  I will not likely retire because I have 6 kids and my youngest will be 11 in July.  Would love comments from JA and anyone else who wants to weigh in.

How much niacin are you taking and what form?

Comment:  that low of DHEA can definitely cause issues. Mine was about 70 points higher, and it greatly increased my anxiety levels.  I'm a new person on low dose DHEA.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Texon on April 03, 2017, 07:41:10 pm
Meant to say 0.25 cc test cyp not 25 mgs (too early this a.m. lol)...it's about 50-60 mgs niacin.  Don't know exactly because the lowest dose I can find locally is a 250 mg capsule by Now brand that I open and dump the contents until about 1/4 of the powder is left.  Niacinamide (the buffered form) won't work the same way but has other benefits of its own.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Texon on April 04, 2017, 11:03:52 pm
@peakT   Here's a comment from the Ray Peat forum by Haidut that might raise some interest amongst you all. It did for me.  From this site...

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/can-niacinamide-increase-serotonin.1554/

"This would explain the raging libido boost I get from taking some zinc, tocopherol, and vitamin B6. It truly makes you feel like you are back in high school."

The forum can be somewhat controversial at times but very informative too.  Would enjoy any feedback about the statement above.  I have not tried it personally though.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on April 07, 2017, 06:05:19 am
@peakT   Here's a comment from the Ray Peat forum by Haidut that might raise some interest amongst you all. It did for me.  From this site...

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/can-niacinamide-increase-serotonin.1554/

"This would explain the raging libido boost I get from taking some zinc, tocopherol, and vitamin B6. It truly makes you feel like you are back in high school."

The forum can be somewhat controversial at times but very informative too.  Would enjoy any feedback about the statement above.  I have not tried it personally though.

What explains the libido increase?  I got lost there.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Retardo on May 14, 2017, 08:52:55 am
I just stickied this thread cuzz both JustAskin and I are seniors.   

over 65?
how do you define, "seniorz"?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on May 16, 2017, 05:08:29 am
I just stickied this thread cuzz both JustAskin and I are seniors.   

over 65?
how do you define, "seniorz"?

I'd probably define it about 50+.  Actually, I just saw a chart that at about age 45 is where the risk of chronic disease starts rapidly accelerating.  Your enzymes and hormones start really declining often at this age.  I am in my mid late 50's and JustAskin is in his mid late 60's.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: maximus220 on August 07, 2017, 03:48:27 am
How much l dopa is recommended??
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: golfboy307 on August 08, 2017, 01:53:48 pm
I just want to report out on two of the supplements from Just Askin's list that have given me a terrific boost in erection quality over the last few weeks:

1.  Life Extension's Endothelial defense (taking one pill per day, recommend dosage is two)
2.  Dopa Bean (Macuna Pruriens), one pill every other day.

I am taking these with my evening stack of 2 g Citrulline, 2g Arginine, 100mg Pycnogenol, 3 Kyolic Garlic capsules and 1-2 mg Cialis.

Just by adding these two, I have noticed a big increase in duration and hardness all night and even during the day.  I have ordered the other ones from his stack, but have not introduced them just yet due to the power of these two alone.  The LEF pill is basically super concentrated Pom extract, some orange peel extract and two type of enzymes that are supposed to the precursor to NO activity.

Hope this lasts and doesn't fade!  Thanks JA!
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on August 08, 2017, 04:42:19 pm
I just want to report out on two of the supplements from Just Askin's list that have given me a terrific boost in erection quality over the last few weeks:

1.  Life Extension's Endothelial defense (taking one pill per day, recommend dosage is two)
2.  Dopa Bean (Macuna Pruriens), one pill every other day.

I am taking these with my evening stack of 2 g Citrulline, 2g Arginine, 100mg Pycnogenol, 3 Kyolic Garlic capsules and 1-2 mg Cialis.

Just by adding these two, I have noticed a big increase in duration and hardness all night and even during the day.  I have ordered the other ones from his stack, but have not introduced them just yet due to the power of these two alone.  The LEF pill is basically super concentrated Pom extract, some orange peel extract and two type of enzymes that are supposed to the precursor to NO activity.

Hope this lasts and doesn't fade!  Thanks JA!

How long have you been taking them?  No signs yet of a honeymoon period yet, eh?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: maximus220 on August 09, 2017, 04:25:39 am
I used l dopa 100mg and instead of dopa mind I got avena sativa....same thing in dopa mind. Last night I my heart way beating so fast....it was pounding? Is this a side effect? Nothing new a added to my supplement other than these two things. Is it good to take the l dopa a few times a week instead of everyday?
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on August 09, 2017, 05:29:09 pm
I used l dopa 100mg and instead of dopa mind I got avena sativa....same thing in dopa mind. Last night I my heart way beating so fast....it was pounding? Is this a side effect? Nothing new a added to my supplement other than these two things. Is it good to take the l dopa a few times a week instead of everyday?

Don't take it any more with that side.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: lestat210 on August 28, 2017, 10:30:29 am
I've been looking for something that would help with libido and motivation.  I don't really have a problem getting erections, but I have problems maintaining them due to lack of sensitivity, and desire.  This seems like it would do the trick.  Was gonna hit the local Vitamin Shoppe, and was  wondering if y'all got a boost outside of the bedroom as well?  Mental clarity, memory, focus, motivation, etc...  I should clarify that all of my hormonal numbers look great!

Also, for those that have had their wives try the stack, were the results as positive as for they have been for men?  It would stand to reason that they would be, but I thought I'd ask.  My wife's been a little unhappy lately, maybe a bit irritable, and her libido is hit or miss.  We have a great relationship, and she was doing some research with me, and thought this might help in the dopamine dept.  All of her labs show her to be a picture of health, to include hormonally.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Joe Sixpack on August 28, 2017, 07:25:30 pm
I've been looking for something that would help with libido and motivation.  I don't really have a problem getting erections, but I have problems maintaining them due to lack of sensitivity, and desire.  This seems like it would do the trick.  Was gonna hit the local Vitamin Shoppe, and was  wondering if y'all got a boost outside of the bedroom as well?  Mental clarity, memory, focus, motivation, etc...  I should clarify that all of my hormonal numbers look great!

Also, for those that have had their wives try the stack, were the results as positive as for they have been for men?  It would stand to reason that they would be, but I thought I'd ask.  My wife's been a little unhappy lately, maybe a bit irritable, and her libido is hit or miss.  We have a great relationship, and she was doing some research with me, and thought this might help in the dopamine dept.  All of her labs show her to be a picture of health, to include hormonally.

Thanks in advance.
I got a nice boost in mental clarity the first time I used the stack.  It seems to diminish with use.  I don't really feel much mental boost now.  I only use the stack twice per week.

My wife tried the DMAE.  She said it made her feel funny and didn't like it.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: lestat210 on August 29, 2017, 05:23:56 am
Roger that, thanks for the feedback!  Hoping to get in to town today...
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on August 29, 2017, 11:09:05 pm
I've been looking for something that would help with libido and motivation.  I don't really have a problem getting erections, but I have problems maintaining them due to lack of sensitivity, and desire.  This seems like it would do the trick.  Was gonna hit the local Vitamin Shoppe, and was  wondering if y'all got a boost outside of the bedroom as well?  Mental clarity, memory, focus, motivation, etc...  I should clarify that all of my hormonal numbers look great!

Also, for those that have had their wives try the stack, were the results as positive as for they have been for men?  It would stand to reason that they would be, but I thought I'd ask.  My wife's been a little unhappy lately, maybe a bit irritable, and her libido is hit or miss.  We have a great relationship, and she was doing some research with me, and thought this might help in the dopamine dept.  All of her labs show her to be a picture of health, to include hormonally.

Thanks in advance.
I got a nice boost in mental clarity the first time I used the stack.  It seems to diminish with use.  I don't really feel much mental boost now.  I only use the stack twice per week.

My wife tried the DMAE.  She said it made her feel funny and didn't like it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17940822

Don't know the dosage involved in the above.

Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Biker2007 on September 19, 2017, 11:33:21 am
I've been reading and re-reading this thread for weeks now, and I've decided to order the stack mentioned here.  Should arrive in a few days.

My story and my numbers are detailed here:  http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=13420.0 (http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=13420.0)



Sharing these with the forum.  I'm not sure if the units are different than what most people post here (I'm in Canada), so here goes:

TESTOSTERONE (FREE):  578 pmol/L ("normal" range is 196-636)

TESTOSTERONE (TOTAL):  24.9 nmol/L ("normal" range is 7.6 - 31.4)

Glucose (fasting):  6.8 mmol/L (HIGH - "normal" range is 3.6 - 6)

DHEA:  7.7 umol/L ("normal" range is 1.2 - 8.98)

Estradiol E2:  194 pmol/L (HIGH - "normal" range is < 159)

Cholesterol Total:  4.01 mmol/L ("normal" range is <5.2)

Triglycerides:  .98 mmol/L ("normal" range is <1.7)

HDL Cholesterol:  .94 mmol/L (LOW - "normal" range is >=1)

Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH):  1.22 mlU/L ("normal" range is 0.35 - 5)

I'm 46, healthy, gym (compound exercises with free weights) three times a week, with 5k runs in between days.

Seeing my doctor this Friday after talking with him last visit about changing the protocol to every week at least.  He wanted to research a bit.  He also mentioned we may try testosterone gel, which I'm not too interested in.  I'd rather stay with injections, and switch to subq as opposed to intramuscular.

Again, my goal (after losing 90 pounds so far) is to remove the last remnants of the "fog" (no drive, at work and in general) and constant low-level melancholy I feel, as well as anxiety.  And more importantly to increase my non-existant libido and desire, as well as sensation.  So far diet (high NO, beets, arugula, a bit of pom juice) have helped giving me middle of the night and morning erections again, but still no desire and little feeling to touch/penetration/oral.

So I will slowly begin adding the stack to my routine.  I'm thinking of starting with Dopa-Mind and Dopa Bean first as I can get turned on by my girlfriend just fine but it doesn't translate to signals below the belt and I have no sensation. 

On nights where sex is planned, I take Viagra an hour before, usually half a tablet (50mg) but sometimes a whole tablet (100mg).  I get a stuffed up nose, and get red in the face and my eyesight is affected a bit (lights are brighter).  I can live with these symptoms, as with Viagra I do get erections and can have sex for a good while, but with little to no sensation at my end I eventually get tired and need a break.

After reading the stack here I'm interested in Cialis as it seems to be milder and less of a peak and valley effect.  Viagra seems aggressive and brute force compared to what I'm reading here about Cialis.

Any direction you can give me on how to approach this stack will be appreciated.


Christian
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on September 19, 2017, 02:59:23 pm
Talk to your doctor about the symptoms. Pretty scary. Do you search on NAION in the search box above and you'll see why I say that
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: Biker2007 on September 20, 2017, 06:18:48 am
Thanks PeakT, I certainly will on Friday.
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: drp on October 21, 2017, 08:07:29 am
New to forum. Could I ask where you purchase JustAskin's formula?
1 Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit),
 1 Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens)  Solaray = 333mg.
 1 N-Acetyl Tyrosine   (Jarrow's Formulas) = 350mg.
 1 Doctors Best Natural Brain Enhancers (choline), = (GlyceroPhosphoCholine (GPC) = 300mg. Phosphatidylserine (PS) = 100mg.)
 1 Jarrow's  Pantethine = 450mg.
 2 Endothelial Defense with Full Spectrum Pomegranate and Cordiart
 2 Source Naturals L-Citrulline = 1000mg. Ea.
 
Title: Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
Post by: PeakT on October 21, 2017, 12:43:28 pm
New to forum. Could I ask where you purchase JustAskin's formula?
1 Dopa-Mind: first to block  MAO-B (dopa inhibit),
 1 Dopa-Bean (Macuna pruriens)  Solaray = 333mg.
 1 N-Acetyl Tyrosine   (Jarrow's Formulas) = 350mg.
 1 Doctors Best Natural Brain Enhancers (choline), = (GlyceroPhosphoCholine (GPC) = 300mg. Phosphatidylserine (PS) = 100mg.)
 1 Jarrow's  Pantethine = 450mg.
 2 Endothelial Defense with Full Spectrum Pomegranate and Cordiart
 2 Source Naturals L-Citrulline = 1000mg. Ea.

Amazon will get you going.