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How common is it for someone who has prolonged sub 300 T levels to feel for lack of a better description: "sex-less". As in you can only relate to a woman on a platonic/friendship level? Like you devolved into the realm of non-gender-ness. How common is this feeling when you have low t over a prolonged period of time?
 

And what can be done (foods, exercises) in the interim (while you are in the process of finding/seeing the proper doctors) to normalize things?

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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2016, 08:24:21 pm »
How common is it for someone who has prolonged sub 300 T levels to feel for lack of a better description: "sex-less". As in you can only relate to a woman on a platonic/friendship level? Like you devolved into the realm of non-gender-ness. How common is this feeling when you have low t over a prolonged period of time?
 

And what can be done (foods, exercises) in the interim (while you are in the process of finding/seeing the proper doctors) to normalize things?

I was in the low 300's and felt like a zombie for awhile.  I don't really care about anything.  You feel like you are "just existing."
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements. Yes, low T and E.D. are usually medical conditions.  There are potential risk with HRT:  http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_risks.aspx.
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2016, 08:24:21 pm »

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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2016, 08:45:45 pm »
What you describe is exactly how I feel being on TRT. I've had my T level between 500 and 1500 and felt no different. Before I started my levels were around 300 and at least I had some libido.

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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2016, 08:53:02 pm »
At a T of 135-200, I still wanted sex fairly often and masturbated once every day or two.

I've also tanked my Estrogen recently and still want sex.

Although I do believe that my libido is not what it used to be.
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Trouble began with abrupt ED Early May '15
Initial T level 130
Started Clomid in hopes of rebooting system June '15
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2016, 11:17:38 pm »
How common is it for someone who has prolonged sub 300 T levels to feel for lack of a better description: "sex-less". As in you can only relate to a woman on a platonic/friendship level? Like you devolved into the realm of non-gender-ness. How common is this feeling when you have low t over a prolonged period of time?
 

And what can be done (foods, exercises) in the interim (while you are in the process of finding/seeing the proper doctors) to normalize things?

I was in the low 300's and felt like a zombie for awhile.  I don't really care about anything.  You feel like you are "just existing."

Same.
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2016, 01:50:29 am »
According to neuroendocrinologist Robert Sapolsky, you only need a teensy bit of testosterone for libido and sperm production (via feedback with LH and fSH).  My theory is that low testosterone causes low libido indirectly rather than directly, such as through increases in norepinephrine and/or decreases in dopamine, among other things. 
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2016, 08:04:06 am »
I can relate to what Jaime is saying. With T around 300 ng/dL I frequently felt pretty asexual. Somebody else on the forum had an interesting description of one aspect of it: in seeing beautiful women you might view them as you would nice pieces of art, but get none of the visceral want-to-have-sex reaction.
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
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Protocol: 18 mg T enanthate subQ qod, 270 IU hCG subQ qod, 6.25 mg DHEA orally bid
5/2017 test results: TT: 800 ng/dL (348-1197), FT: 16 pg/mL (7.2-24), E2: 50 pg/mL sensitive (8.0-35.0), DHEA-S: 278 ug/dL (71.6-375.4)

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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2016, 08:30:22 am »
I find that I have zero sexual interest in women when my T is low. EDIT: My T levels measure about 25 ng/dl (on a 350-1100 scale) or so normally, that's less than a woman, ugh.

I also find that when T replacement is not correct for me, I have low interest. Even if the numbers are high. But E is high.

However, with the topical cream, done correctly, good-god I'm horny. I also know that if I stop for a day or two, drive plummets.
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Cause: severe mononucleosis in my early 30's
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Perfect bloodwork labs (Mar 2017) , my T=702, TSH 0.5, other thyroid levels normal.


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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2016, 11:38:37 am »
I can relate to what Jaime is saying. With T around 300 ng/dL I frequently felt pretty asexual. Somebody else on the forum had an interesting description of one aspect of it: in seeing beautiful women you might view them as you would nice pieces of art, but get none of the visceral want-to-have-sex reaction.

That is exactly how I felt.
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2016, 01:29:48 pm »
According to neuroendocrinologist Robert Sapolsky, you only need a teensy bit of testosterone for libido and sperm production (via feedback with LH and fSH).  My theory is that low testosterone causes low libido indirectly rather than directly, such as through increases in norepinephrine and/or decreases in dopamine, among other things.

So an interim band-aid could be to utilize foods/exercises/lifestyle tweaks/supps/etc which normalize dopamine and lower norepinephrine.


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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2016, 04:42:59 pm »
According to neuroendocrinologist Robert Sapolsky, you only need a teensy bit of testosterone for libido and sperm production (via feedback with LH and fSH).  My theory is that low testosterone causes low libido indirectly rather than directly, such as through increases in norepinephrine and/or decreases in dopamine, among other things.

So an interim band-aid could be to utilize foods/exercises/lifestyle tweaks/supps/etc which normalize dopamine and lower norepinephrine.

Yeah, it's tricky though, because a lot of those supplements work for a few days and then the effect fades.

Btw, be sure to pull prolactin if you have not:  higher prolactin means lower dopamine.
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements. Yes, low T and E.D. are usually medical conditions.  There are potential risk with HRT:  http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_risks.aspx.
My Health History: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/My_Health_Story.aspx.
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2016, 06:17:04 pm »
Interesting article for what it's worth. I bought some of this stuff for the wife, but she can't swallow the large capsules, so I started taking them 3 days ago. We'll see what happens...

http://blog.lifeextension.com/2011/10/how-to-naturally-enhance-libido-through.html?m=1
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Re: How common is it for guys suffering from Low T (sub 300 to feel sex-less?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2016, 10:25:35 pm »
Interesting article for what it's worth. I bought some of this stuff for the wife, but she can't swallow the large capsules, so I started taking them 3 days ago. We'll see what happens...

http://blog.lifeextension.com/2011/10/how-to-naturally-enhance-libido-through.html?m=1

That's a lot of supplements.  If something works for her, can you let us know which one(s) you think it is (in a separate thread preferably).
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements. Yes, low T and E.D. are usually medical conditions.  There are potential risk with HRT:  http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_risks.aspx.
My Health History: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/My_Health_Story.aspx.
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I know that fealing... did some research and it seems that lagging DHT is the key holder in this problem.. you dont get it eunoght when taking injections. Exspecially steady esters like E or C. I personally go with sustanon and it some how helps you at least couple days of week..  small dose of t-gel to gonads brougt my libido back alive when I added it to my routine..

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I know that fealing... did some research and it seems that lagging DHT is the key holder in this problem.. you dont get it eunoght when taking injections. Exspecially steady esters like E or C. ...

Do you have any links to your findings? My subjective experience agrees with this and I'd like to know if there's objective information to support the idea.
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
Age: 55, Ht: 5'10", Wt: 154 lbs
Protocol: 18 mg T enanthate subQ qod, 270 IU hCG subQ qod, 6.25 mg DHEA orally bid
5/2017 test results: TT: 800 ng/dL (348-1197), FT: 16 pg/mL (7.2-24), E2: 50 pg/mL sensitive (8.0-35.0), DHEA-S: 278 ug/dL (71.6-375.4)

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