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Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« on: April 04, 2017, 04:55:33 am »
Does anyone prefer one over the other? I've tried both over the years and it seems Enanthate has more kick to it and quicker than cypionate.
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2017, 06:15:38 am »
I believe some of us like me daily injection guys can do better with Enanthate, I've thought about switching or perhaps a E/Cyp blend.
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2017, 05:52:44 pm »
Does anyone prefer one over the other? I've tried both over the years and it seems Enanthate has more kick to it and quicker than cypionate.

They have very similar properties:

similar in half life; mg testosterone per mg product is similar.
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 10:23:11 am »
I believe some of us like me daily injection guys can do better with Enanthate, I've thought about switching or perhaps a E/Cyp blend.

Question - If you are doing daily injections, why not use testosterone propionate instead of Enanthate or Cypionate?
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 11:43:49 am »
I believe some of us like me daily injection guys can do better with Enanthate, I've thought about switching or perhaps a E/Cyp blend.

Question - If you are doing daily injections, why not use testosterone propionate instead of Enanthate or Cypionate?

Should be more steady state with cypionate or enanthate.  Of course, one debate if that is good or not, since it does not mimic as well our diurnal cycle.  I'm not sure propionate would do that either though.  Looks like there is considerable variation in the half life.
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 11:57:49 am »
With Prop I hear more I don't know what to call it more painful injections for the ester, not painful syringe injection but the prop ester causing guys problems of that type.
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 04:53:35 pm »
I suspect that the low SHBG guys would do terrible on T Prop.  Since Prop has such a short half life
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2017, 11:47:59 pm »
I suspect that the low SHBG guys would do terrible on T Prop.  Since Prop has such a short half life

Some low SHBG guys have loved propionate and felt it was the only things that worked for them. 
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2017, 12:04:35 am »
I believe some of us like me daily injection guys can do better with Enanthate, I've thought about switching or perhaps a E/Cyp blend.

Question - If you are doing daily injections, why not use testosterone propionate instead of Enanthate or Cypionate?

Should be more steady state with cypionate or enanthate.  Of course, one debate if that is good or not, since it does not mimic as well our diurnal cycle.  I'm not sure propionate would do that either though.  Looks like there is considerable variation in the half life.

Yeah, I'd think doing even daily propionate is comparable to doing weekly cypionate.  If gels didn't have such a DHT issue, I'd agree wholeheartedly (little ol' doctorateless me) with Dr Crisler, who likes them precisely because they come closest to mimicking natural rhythms, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) are much less likely to shut a guy down. 
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2017, 12:57:06 am »


Yeah, I'd think doing even daily propionate is comparable to doing weekly cypionate.  If gels didn't have such a DHT issue, I'd agree wholeheartedly (little ol' doctorateless me) with Dr Crisler, who likes them precisely because they come closest to mimicking natural rhythms, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) are much less likely to shut a guy down.

Kind of interesting how few guys on here - cujet being one of the rare exceptions - are using transdermals.  I think there are a number of practical reasons for that myself, but perhaps a lot of us have really missed the boat there.
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2017, 03:01:47 am »


Yeah, I'd think doing even daily propionate is comparable to doing weekly cypionate.  If gels didn't have such a DHT issue, I'd agree wholeheartedly (little ol' doctorateless me) with Dr Crisler, who likes them precisely because they come closest to mimicking natural rhythms, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) are much less likely to shut a guy down.

Kind of interesting how few guys on here - cujet being one of the rare exceptions - are using transdermals.  I think there are a number of practical reasons for that myself, but perhaps a lot of us have really missed the boat there.

That is interesting, isn't it?  It seems like transdermals have lost their popularity here and maybe elsewhere over the last few years.  Cost is undoubtedly one reason.  Maybe subcutaneous injections and/or a more reasonable injection schedule are catching on and guys are liking it more?

There's a study I didn't save that shouldn't be that hard to find that pointed to how guys preferred injections over all other types of TRT, even transdermals, and I *think* this meant every two week injections.  That's saying a lot. 
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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2017, 03:39:33 am »
I believe some of us like me daily injection guys can do better with Enanthate, I've thought about switching or perhaps a E/Cyp blend.

Question - If you are doing daily injections, why not use testosterone propionate instead of Enanthate or Cypionate?

Should be more steady state with cypionate or enanthate.  Of course, one debate if that is good or not, since it does not mimic as well our diurnal cycle.  I'm not sure propionate would do that either though.  Looks like there is considerable variation in the half life.

Yeah, I'd think doing even daily propionate is comparable to doing weekly cypionate.  If gels didn't have such a DHT issue, I'd agree wholeheartedly (little ol' doctorateless me) with Dr Crisler, who likes them precisely because they come closest to mimicking natural rhythms, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) are much less likely to shut a guy down.

If you're using T you're going to be shutdown in a matter of weeks.

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Re: Enanthate Versus Cypionate
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2017, 04:27:40 am »
I believe some of us like me daily injection guys can do better with Enanthate, I've thought about switching or perhaps a E/Cyp blend.

Question - If you are doing daily injections, why not use testosterone propionate instead of Enanthate or Cypionate?

Should be more steady state with cypionate or enanthate.  Of course, one debate if that is good or not, since it does not mimic as well our diurnal cycle.  I'm not sure propionate would do that either though.  Looks like there is considerable variation in the half life.

Yeah, I'd think doing even daily propionate is comparable to doing weekly cypionate.  If gels didn't have such a DHT issue, I'd agree wholeheartedly (little ol' doctorateless me) with Dr Crisler, who likes them precisely because they come closest to mimicking natural rhythms, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) are much less likely to shut a guy down.

If you're using T you're going to be shutdown in a matter of weeks.

HRTGuru is right, even very low dose transdermal (gel or cream - 1-2%) will shut down the HPTA in the matter of 6-8 weeks, almost invariably.
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