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Sighalot

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Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« on: October 06, 2017, 11:19:42 pm »
Recently tested T and it was way higher then usual, way above reference.

Hcg 450IU 3 times a week usually puts me around 19-23 with reference 9-30, testogel 2 satchels usually put me at 11-13 at the time of testing i had only taken 1 satchel so guessed T would be around 24, previous test before summer was 24 with this protocol.
Last week i had T checked and now it was 47 with reference 9-30, never been close to that number before when i used nebido i peaked at 29-30 a week after injection.

The only difference this time was that i had taken tongkat ali for a week, is there any solid data around that tongkat ali can increase T?
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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2017, 11:50:15 pm »
Usually if you are on TRT I thought these supplements shouldnt be affecting T levels as you are on a completely artificial HPTA.

Then again I have no idea. A few weeks after ketamine therapy my T was all the way to the 1200s with no change in protocol and still relatively low doses of TRT
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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2017, 12:11:22 am »
Do you use tesogel?
If you do, you maybe put the gel there they take blod on you. Dont do that because the test gona get skyhigh.
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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 06:09:00 pm »
Recently tested T and it was way higher then usual, way above reference.

Hcg 450IU 3 times a week usually puts me around 19-23 with reference 9-30, testogel 2 satchels usually put me at 11-13 at the time of testing i had only taken 1 satchel so guessed T would be around 24, previous test before summer was 24 with this protocol.
Last week i had T checked and now it was 47 with reference 9-30, never been close to that number before when i used nebido i peaked at 29-30 a week after injection.

The only difference this time was that i had taken tongkat ali for a week, is there any solid data around that tongkat ali can increase T?
Regards
Sighalot

Probably a little in some guys. But if it worked consistently every athlete on the planet would be using it.
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
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If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 06:26:18 pm »
Recently tested T and it was way higher then usual, way above reference.

Hcg 450IU 3 times a week usually puts me around 19-23 with reference 9-30, testogel 2 satchels usually put me at 11-13 at the time of testing i had only taken 1 satchel so guessed T would be around 24, previous test before summer was 24 with this protocol.
Last week i had T checked and now it was 47 with reference 9-30, never been close to that number before when i used nebido i peaked at 29-30 a week after injection.

The only difference this time was that i had taken tongkat ali for a week, is there any solid data around that tongkat ali can increase T?
Regards
Sighalot

What brand of tongkat ali were you using, what dose were you taking and were you taking it on an empty stomach, or with food?

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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 04:26:21 am »
I have started taking this a couple weeks back after seeing a video from John Gray, and I have to say my libido is slowly improving, even with this transition from injectable to topical. I am taking it twice daily, and the brand is Micro Ingredients that I purchased from Amazon. It's 200:1 thats a bulk powder and it comes with a scoop, which is 1/8 teaspoon that I take twice daily. Another thing I have noticed as well is, erection quality and sleep have also improved. The only bad thing I've seen so far is the terrible taste, be sure to put it in juice or coffee to mask the flavor. I'm very skeptical with herbal supplements, but I have to admit, this one has surprised me so far.
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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 06:03:34 am »
Usually if you are on TRT I thought these supplements shouldnt be affecting T levels as you are on a completely artificial HPTA.

Then again I have no idea. A few weeks after ketamine therapy my T was all the way to the 1200s with no change in protocol and still relatively low doses of TRT

Well, according to these 2 articles, tongkat ali will definitely increase your testosterone levels:

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"Tongkat Ali extract takes a separate approach, boosting the number of Leydig cells.

This assists the body in utilizing its natural hormones in a far more practical fashion. The result of this is a lack of rebound effect seen with synthetic alternatives, and a far higher boost in testosterone.

Additionally, Tongkat Ali releases the bind between SHGB (sex hormone binding globulin) and testosterone, preventing the hormone from being useless in the body. Releasing this bind lowers the SHGB levels, and allows the body to use more of its free testosterone."

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"In 2012, a study that consisted of seventy-six men, only 35% of whom had normal testosterone levels, was orchestrated. It was reported that after one month of supplementing with tongkat ali, the number of men in the group with normal testosterone levels jumped to over 90%."
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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 06:59:48 am »
Usually if you are on TRT I thought these supplements shouldnt be affecting T levels as you are on a completely artificial HPTA.

Then again I have no idea. A few weeks after ketamine therapy my T was all the way to the 1200s with no change in protocol and still relatively low doses of TRT

Well, according to these 2 articles, tongkat ali will definitely increase your testosterone levels:

[edited by moderator]

"Tongkat Ali extract takes a separate approach, boosting the number of Leydig cells.

This assists the body in utilizing its natural hormones in a far more practical fashion. The result of this is a lack of rebound effect seen with synthetic alternatives, and a far higher boost in testosterone.

Additionally, Tongkat Ali releases the bind between SHGB (sex hormone binding globulin) and testosterone, preventing the hormone from being useless in the body. Releasing this bind lowers the SHGB levels, and allows the body to use more of its free testosterone."

[edited by moderator]

"In 2012, a study that consisted of seventy-six men, only 35% of whom had normal testosterone levels, was orchestrated. It was reported that after one month of supplementing with tongkat ali, the number of men in the group with normal testosterone levels jumped to over 90%."

I think the benefits to Tongkat Ali are that it moves a number of hormones in the right direction.  It doesn't move them by much, but it does move them and thus is a mild help.  Check this out for example:

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-10-28

"Results
Significant improvements were found in the TA group for Tension (−11%), Anger (−12%), and Confusion (−15%). Stress hormone profile (salivary cortisol and testosterone) was significantly improved by TA supplementation, with reduced cortisol exposure (−16%) and increased testosterone status (+37%).

Conclusion
These results indicate that daily supplementation with tongkat ali root extract improves stress hormone profile and certain mood state parameters, suggesting that this “ancient” remedy may be an effective approach to shielding the body from the detrimental effects of “modern” chronic stress, which may include general day-to-day stress, as well as the stress of dieting, sleep deprivation, and exercise training."
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program.aspx
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Tongkat ali increases Testosterone?
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2017, 04:50:30 am »
Usually if you are on TRT I thought these supplements shouldnt be affecting T levels as you are on a completely artificial HPTA.

Then again I have no idea. A few weeks after ketamine therapy my T was all the way to the 1200s with no change in protocol and still relatively low doses of TRT
Heard rumours tongkat ali stimulates the secretion of GNRH

What brand of tongkat ali were you using, what dose were you taking and were you taking it on an empty stomach, or with food?
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