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Title: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 11, 2012, 07:35:49 am

I think I need testostrone supplementation

Test. resultsy
329
normal is 240-950

Free test is 12(normal)
normal is 9-30
thoughts?

I have a big standardized test coming up in 2 weeks, I've been stressed
I'm  36% fat, usually, 15-18%
high cholesterol, 248
 high HDL 48
TSH 2.7
Triglyceride 189

this is the most out of shape I've ever been in

I'm dieting and getting back to the weights(yes, more than 15% caloric restriction on some days). and lots of cardio, some DNP and a high protein diet/low carb--mostly egg white, beets,  2lbs broccilli.day(raw) 3 apples, EFAs,  Arginine Plus, niacin(500mg-1gram), 5-10IU vit D(for a month to get my level to about 40)

by July 4th, I'll be down to 170ish

then I'll  get retested


Any comments about what I said above, as in, anything that looks horribly wrong?

Will masturbation cause plaques to form in my  arteries the cause erections?

I know if I dont masturbate, I'll increase my testosterone  level 145% at least once/week, or till I fap again.

I read this in
(A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men/
ISSN 1009 - 3095 Journal of Zhejiang Universi~, SCIENCE V .4, No .2, P .236 - 240, Mar. - Apr., 2003
which says:
-On the 7th day of abstinence, however, aclear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7 % of the baseline ( P < 0.01 )
--I might be reading the study wrong though

so maybe I just need to limit masturbation to just once/week...I havent been with a girl for 2 months now, and I'm unhappy with how I have let myself go, I need to get back to giving a shit about myself.
My errocktions arent that solid, most of the time, I do get morning wood, cept the last 2 weeks(the blood test was from December 2011)

goal
Learn how to limit and reverse any damage to my heart/penis while I get back into shape and change my diet.
I think I should add:
1 drink Pomegranate Juice
2 drink Tart Cherry Juice.
3. take 2. CoQ10.
4, take Turmeric / Curcumin.
5. Green Tea / EGCG.  EGCG

Any other insights would be appreciated


Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 11, 2012, 07:41:31 am
I also take 500mg vit C
1000mg garlic
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 11, 2012, 12:58:43 pm
Congrats on making all the great changes.  You know what I'm going to say:  you've got to get those lipid #s back in shape.  If you've had those #s for a long time, your endothelium has probably been getting hammered.  And throw in your low testosterone, which raises insulin, and you've probably got a mess.

The good news is that you're dropping weight, which lowers inflammation, and will give your endothelium a break.  And, of course, the exercise will really help with the same and decrease any insulin resistance.

Gotta run - have a couple more comments later.  Again, though, congrats on caring for yourself.  There isn't anyone else that's gonna do it, eh?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 11, 2012, 09:38:28 pm
Also, I've never thought the abstinence route was a good way to raise testosterone.  There's not really enough research to prove anything, but here is my take on it:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Ejaculation.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 11, 2012, 09:54:30 pm
I think you might want to add something about how a man who  has 3+ ejaculations per week has reduced chance of prostate cancer, ..or whatever the studies say

I've  been able to accomplish this 7 day feat once, I was away from the GF for 9 days and when I saw her again....the pain was worth it

sex increases test levels, so dont forgo sex to do this crap

that's all I have, I really like this site, but is there a more condensed version of what to do to increase test/keep arteries healthy?
I'm still unsure about vitamin C, should I take big doses of it? or not?
also about vitamin E? I thought men who took it had a higher chance of prostate cancer later in life?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21990298.1
CONCLUSION:

Dietary supplementation with vitamin E significantly increased the risk of prostate cancer among healthy men.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 12, 2012, 07:19:05 am
I think you might want to add something about how a man who  has 3+ ejaculations per week has reduced chance of prostate cancer, ..or whatever the studies say

I've  been able to accomplish this 7 day feat once, I was away from the GF for 9 days and when I saw her again....the pain was worth it

sex increases test levels, so dont forgo sex to do this crap

that's all I have, I really like this site, but is there a more condensed version of what to do to increase test/keep arteries healthy?
I'm still unsure about vitamin C, should I take big doses of it? or not?
also about vitamin E? I thought men who took it had a higher chance of prostate cancer later in life?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21990298.1
CONCLUSION:

Dietary supplementation with vitamin E significantly increased the risk of prostate cancer among healthy men.

Great comments.  You bring up a good point about some kind of a condensed summary of what to do.  The site has really grown over the years and it is probably a bit unwieldy in parts.  Let me think about that one...

Vitamin C is a huge subject.  I have somewhat changed position recently.  My take on megadosing Vitamin C is that the studies are 98% positive and a few negative.  I initially jumped on the 2% that were negative but looking back on that, I think it was a mistake and plan to modify some of my posts accordingly.  In the meantime I take 1.5-2.0 grams/day.  This is a huge subject, though, and I hope to post some on it soon.

My take on Vitamin E is that is probably good for the brain but hard on several other systems in the body.  The reason is that, as you probably know, most Vitamin E's are alpha tocopherol which lowers levels of other critical tocopherols.  In other words, most Vitamin E's, especially in the studies, are unnatural.

Will mixed tocopherol Vitamin E's do better in the studies.  Well, the jury is still out on that and I don't think anyone will redo the studies any time soon.  My opinion is that, if you are following a Low Fat Diet to clean out your arteries, then don't worry about it.  If you want to supplement with a little Vitamin E, then just eat a few nuts or seeds.  Many of those boost your nitric oxide levels anyway.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 13, 2012, 07:41:03 am
Seed wise, I like almonds, I get my EFAs elsewhere(spring Valley, Norwegian cod liver oil)
I eat at most 2 cups steamed broccoli/day, I used to take a supplement of Diindolylmethane, or DIM, .I dont think it's better than eatin raw brocoli, but can it do harm?  Whats the consensus
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 13, 2012, 09:20:08 am
Depending on the supplement, there's just a lot more DIM than you'd get in broccoli.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 13, 2012, 08:07:07 pm
I eat about 2lbs or so a day of broccolli, I  use to take a DIM supp.  I never had a blood test to see if it did anything more than a placebo effect.
Can someone point me to any, ANY study that indicates this "stuff" does anything to positively effect testosterone/estrogen in human males when taken orally? I see nothing that supports that on pubmed.
http://www.jbc.org/content/278/23/21136.long 
That doesn't seem to indicate that, unless I'm misinterpreting it.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 13, 2012, 09:13:16 pm
Watchn:  See the link below, especially references 12 and 24:

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/articles/contrarian-endocrinology-revisited-estrogen-for-men/

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 13, 2012, 10:57:00 pm
Thanks, Peak

I am looking to find some DIM to take along with eating my broccoli and soon, kale....
this spot looked good, but really pricey
http://www.activamune.com/purchase.htm

what would you use as a source for supplemental DIM?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 13, 2012, 11:02:42 pm
I think I used these company before,  it's about half price
http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=274640&catid=183316&aid=338666&aparam=274640

any thoughts on where to get DIM from?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 14, 2012, 07:21:43 am
Don't know those brands.  Source Natural has a DIM product on Amazon.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 14, 2012, 12:19:17 pm
Source Natural
has other stuff along with  the DIM, most notably, vit E
Im trying to stay away from taking extra vitamin E
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 14, 2012, 03:44:58 pm
Okay.  Well, 50 IU isn't too bad is pretty low.  http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1677/

The increase in prostate cancer from Vit E was actually "statistically insignificant" but still makes me a little nervous:

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/306/14/1549

And not only was it statistically nonsignificant (about 17%) but it also was only (I'm pretty sure) for the 400IU cohort, which is significantly more than you are taking:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-cooper/vitamine-e-prostate-cancer-_b_1016922.html (This is a good article btw.)

It's kind of int'g that they put that small of an amount in - I think they know about some of the above research.

The Bioperine is standard with Life Extension and some other supplement mfgs as it improves absorbption.  Phosphatidylcholine makes me a little nervous as it has been found in colon cancer, but I haven't been able to find out much about it, i.e. if it's really an issue.

I'll try to find something later if I can.  And if you find a good one, let us know as well...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 15, 2012, 01:48:47 pm
I was going to get this cart of stuff from purebulk, which is the cheapest I've found
I was wondering  if there was something I was missing
the only issue dosing it myself!  but I have a small scale


Diindolylmethane (DIM)

   L-Arginine HCL
      Coenzyme Q10
      Resveratrol 98%
      Red Wine 50% Polyphenols
      Pomegranate Extract Ellagic Acid
L-Citrulline DL-Malate
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 15, 2012, 02:56:07 pm
A few comments:

1) I'm not sure how much good CoQ10 will do for a young guy like yourself.  CoQ10 tends to help us middle-aged and senior guys whose levels have decreased significantly.
2) Don't overdo the Arginine.  It can raise Ornithine levels which is not good.
3) If possible, a young guy should try to solve things with lifestyle changes or just supplements temporarily to get over the hump. 
4) Talk to your doc if you have any medical conditions or are on any medications:  supplements can interact, etc.
5) Food should your primary source. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 15, 2012, 04:52:54 pm
1) I'm not sure how much good CoQ10 will do for a young guy like yourself.  CoQ10 tends to help us middle-aged and senior guys whose levels have decreased significantly.
ok then, I'm skipping it
2) Don't overdo the Arginine.  It can raise Ornithine levels which is not good.
whats the max amount I should take a day?  Im thinking 10grams, 5g/ 2x a day

3) If possible, a young guy should try to solve things with lifestyle changes or just supplements temporarily to get over the hump.

-I'm adding the supps to ensure max results, Ive changed the diet and I'm going to get more faithful about lifting/doing more than walk  30mins/day after the 24th

4) Talk to your doc if you have any medical conditions or are on any medications:  supplements can interact, etc.
-check, but I'm not on any meds and am really trying to prevent that from changing. my doc said if I dont get the lipids normal by October, Im going on meds

5) Food should your primary source. 
Yes, Im dieting Im into eggwhites, broccoli,(soon kale, if I can stomach it) I also am using cranberry and pomegranate juice(8oz each with food) and omega3s.

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 15, 2012, 08:37:30 pm
Try 1 gram of L-Citrulline and 1-2 grams of L-Arginine. A young guy should not need more than that.

Do not take more than 2 grams per day of L-Arginine in my opinion.  It may increase your risk of certain (herpes) infections.  (You could take Lysine to try to counterbalance it, but that just seems too much art instead of science.)  Also, there are proteins with lots of Arginine in them. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 19, 2012, 11:32:39 pm
I have all my windows tinted where I live, even my car to avoid UV light.. But I use halogen bulbs and CFL in my house,  do these emit skin damaging UV light?  What about florescent lighting?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 20, 2012, 06:54:51 am
I have all my windows tinted where I live, even my car to avoid UV light.. But I use halogen bulbs and CFL in my house,  do these emit skin damaging UV light?  What about florescent lighting?

Can I ask how come you're that worried about UV light?  You don't want too much sun exposure of course imo due to malanoma risk and aging.  But there's no reason to be overly concerned.  A little sun is probably good for your circadian rhythm, which is more and more being linked to many aspects of health.

Also, don't forget about taking Vitamin D if you're avoiding sunlight like that.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 20, 2012, 09:16:03 am
I ask where I get UV light from because of aging/skin cancer...I'm sure a little UV light is good for me, but I like to know where I get it from.
I spend a great deal of time studying and I dont need to be under lamps that emit UV light that much, even if it is very little.
I take 5k IU of vit D a day and I have UV tint on windows because it helps protect the color of my furniure/seating and I drive into the sun a lot.  A roommate of mine does not have UV tint and she routinely comes home with a sunburnt face from driving into the sun.

Knowledge is power, I just want to know....any ideas?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 20, 2012, 11:24:50 am
Halogens don't look too promising:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/16/us/new-study-bolsters-skin-cancer-s-link-to-halogen-lamps.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 20, 2012, 11:27:13 am
And fluorescents don't look good either:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-506082/Environmentally-friendly-light-bulbs-skin-cancer.html

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 20, 2012, 12:23:53 pm
thanks for finding that stuff
I wasnt sure what to believe, I swear you can find most anything on the internet
but nuts!  I like my halogen and I have to stop using my fluorescents, although at school the buzzzing and the headaches make sense now

so I should stick to my incandescent   old bulbs or get UV screens for my halogen?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 20, 2012, 02:19:58 pm
I believe incandescents are pretty safe but will try to verify that later.

Btw, according to the study, halogen are worse than fluorescents:

http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/11/12/2171.short
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 21, 2012, 02:19:42 pm
Peak,
you were right, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-cooper/vitamine-e-prostate-cancer-_b_1016922.html
that was a great find, thanks

I contacted the good folk over at http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1677/  Source Naturals DIM, who say the vit E helps to increase absorption and asked them about an increase in prostate cancer due to vit E and they said nothing to me,but I am less worried about it, but I am still getting dim from pure bulk to avoid it
which has nothing else in it
(http://purebulk.com/images/Label.DIM.10g.pdf)

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 21, 2012, 08:15:05 pm
Well, to complicate matters estrogen is a likely cause of prostate cancer...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 21, 2012, 08:57:25 pm
so its a catch22?
 or I'm not catching on to the complication?
Diindolylmethane (DIM) can help control and reverse estrogen dominance which should decrease prostate cancer, yet the vit E in this DIM can cause higher chance of prostate cancer?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 22, 2012, 04:10:00 am
do garlic pills count as eating garlic to decrease BPH?

4) Onions and Garlic.  Recent studies have shown that onions and garlic very significantly lower the chances of BPH (Benign Prostate Enlargement). [2] Onions were found to be the most protective but garlic was also a powerful BPH Protector.  Men who ate onions four or more times per week had a 59% lower BPH risk than men who never ate onions. Garlic was also found to be protective: men who ate the most garlic had a 28% lower risk than men who never

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/BPH_Benign_Prostate_Enlargement2.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 22, 2012, 02:40:24 pm
Looks like it:

http://www.nrjournal.com/article/S0271-5317(02)00495-5/abstract
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 23, 2012, 01:45:14 am
thanks, Peak
I dont mean to ask obvious questions, they arent obvious answers to me and I have great appreciation for how you/this site relies on hard science and not "bro-science"

I dont have PC or BHP, but I know think I should increase my garlic intake to 3000mg
like you mention how good garlic is, but am I missing a downside?

Garlic. One study on seniors found that garlic significantly slowed down hardening of the arteries. [7] It will also lower blood pressure too.
Circulation, 1997 Oct 21, 96(8):2649-55, "Protective effect of chronic garlic intake on elastic properties of aorta in the elderly"

I know my biggest issue is the extra 50lbs Im carrying around....already working on it
with :

awaken...
.I thought you said a 25yo, brunette aerobics instructor awakening you is ideal, I haven't been able to get that off eBay or amazon..I'll keep looking ;D
2-3 cups coffee
I need to reduce the caffeine intake, but Ive read both the pros and cons of coffee
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Coffee.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Coffee_Caffeine_Dangers.aspx
and I brew my own coffee, which I take in the morning(about 3 cups) and I use splenda+almond milk

workout
-stretch,  walk 30mins  and do weights weight lifting(heavy, 3x8)
because I need to increase my caloric deficit to lose weight later in the day I do about 2-3 hours walking, moderately, treadmill lacks speedometer)
breakfast
2 whole boiled eggs(good stuff to help eyes, I can't read stuff as close up as I used to, isnt that a sign of aging?)
3g omega-3
4oz pomegranate juice
4oz cherry tart
300mg DIM

Lunch
2 apples
eggwhites

niacin
niacin-1000mg(around 10am)
 I used to drink a lot of water. but now I want to get fluride free water.. any thoughts on this or a filter to use?



Dinner
eggwhites
2-3 apples a day(well washed)
about 2 cups of mixed berries(blue,/rasp/black)
broccoli florettetes+franks hot sauce( I dont eat the stems....I disklike broccolli  in general)
(all together I get over 200 grams protein  and quite a few servings of veggies+fruit.....I tried Kale, its a no go, unless you think its something worthy of adding?)

night
-Yes, I still use listerine, but I stopped using my fluoriden rinse,
I use toothpaste, but spend a lot of time getting my gums clean

400 chelated magnessium
~2mg citrulline
~3mg arginine

I watch only funny stuff on TV, no MTV, not much news, (laughter helps)
Im trying to not worry about my life too much, I tend to overthink/worry which leads to insomina,..but like you, sleep is the worst part of my plan to undo/stop damage to my CV system.




that's my plan, do you have any comments?  Perhaps when I take some of the supplements I take?

yes, its 4am here....I have a test on saturday and Im under pressure, so I'm awake thinking about my health....the irony makes me laugh..




Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 23, 2012, 09:04:45 am
Let me just say that you've got a good overall program and a great start there.  I probably should emphasize this more on my site, but one can avoid worrying about all this stuff too much by realizing one important fact:  almost everyone can get a 90% improvement through increasing exercise and sleep along with a few basic supplements and a good, whole food clean diet that emphasizes plants. Doing all of this will help most guys heal and restore over the months and years.

My site has a lot of detail for those who are health geeks like me, but it's the basics that really will make the difference.  Modern societies have gotten away from the basics, the obvious things that we all know make us feel better and live healthier. At some point, you just just have to say, "I want out of the insane asylum!"

It's just tough to be patient.  It took most of us decades of slowly destroying our health, so it's important that we're patient as we rebuild...

Btw, I think I mentioned this, but you don't have many calories there.  Before you assume that you need to go on HRT, imo you should get your calories back to normal for a few weeks and then get a blood draw.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 23, 2012, 11:06:46 am
thanks Peak,
yes, I am aware I am getting bogged down in the details a lil  much, I am aware of that when I wrote, "I know my biggest issue is the extra 50lbs Im carrying around"
thats why the calories are low....I get lots of protein, from eggs and egg whites
I know that you say, "emphasizes plants" and so does Dr esselstyn, and he says animal protein is bad, and are egg whites,...yet Dean ornish allows egg whites and more importantly last time I had a cholestrol level near 100,(12 yrs ago) I dieted using eggwhites....and beef.... and veggies.....so I'm going to do what works for me to get lean again.

btw, I am not assuming I need to go on HRT at all, I am thinking I am a fat bastard whois 50lbs over weigith at least, and once I lose te fat, I'll maintain weight and I bet everything turns out  ok.......the problem is my life got off track and mucked up because I was in a coma and I lost my social life and used food to replace that.....something like that
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 23, 2012, 11:17:29 am
Don't beat yourself up.  As I'm sure you can see when you look around you, 95% of the people you live and work with did the same thing.  The main thing is that you are getting your life and health back on track. 

And I understood about the weight - just checking...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 23, 2012, 11:49:24 am
I responded to you about me thinking I needed to on HRT,,,,I dont think I need to go on HRT..I wondered where you got that Idea,  then I saw my FIRST POST
I think I need testosterone supplementation

yeah, well I really wanted to be told I was a knucklehead and just need to change a few things  and I'll be ok

basically thats what I've learned from your imput and your site.
so I'll keep on keeping on till july 4th, then check back in and let you know my new stats
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 23, 2012, 11:50:55 pm
Well, didn't mean to imply you were a "knucklehead".  It's very hard when everyone is doing the same thing around you. 

I grew up with sweets all around me, meat at every meal and they put MSG in my baby food.  Gasoline and paint were leaded and we had toys with big blobs of mercury in them.  DDT was used on the veges. Then, if you survived the chemicals, you were bombarded the rest of your life with ads.  Then comes the stress and lack of sleep and, after that, fast food so that you could buy a massive hamburger for almost less than you can fix it yourself.

Buy, yes, the good news is that in spite of all these things, we can recover remarkably generally and do quite well.  I think most guys can go back ten or twenty years depending on how disciplined they are...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 24, 2012, 12:17:29 am
I'm sure glad I found this forum.
I will see what happens after I use the program I listed AND lose weight to get back to 10-15% bodyfat
what do you think I'll notice as I progress in my program?

one thing I've noticed since 09 is I dont orgasm fast....I dont go soft, I just keep going, till I get tired or usually bored.
Ive been told I made the  ex-gf feel ugly and it hurt her self-esteem(she was/is 8 yrs younger, so 22/23, in the prime of her physical appeal.

I thought this was due to me being overweight and partly by retarded ejaculation(which my school psychologist(phd, not MD, and it was a free consult with thru my school  health insurance)..will that go away?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 24, 2012, 12:45:49 am
Low testosterone can cause this as well as neuropathy.  See my link on neuropathy for a little info on the latter...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 25, 2012, 10:28:29 am
this has happened before when I start a hardcore diet,(high protein, fruit/veggies, ~50 carbs)
my BMs are green
incredible hulk green,
shall I post pics or why DOES THIS SHIT HAPPEN?
heh heh heh..puns
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 25, 2012, 01:29:01 pm
concerned

I read
This is actually profound Viagra and Cialis really do not "create" nitric oxide but rather work on the enzyme that breaks it down. Viagra and Cialis simply allow nitric oxide to stay in your system longer, because it is broken down less quickly.

However, this is one of the reasons that Viagra, Cialis and Levitra do not work for many men with endothelial dysfunction. In these men, the lining of their arteries and blood vessels is so damaged that they do not put out enough nitric oxide for these PDE5 Inhibitors to act upon. L-Citrulline can substantially help such men by actually providing more substrate for these medications to act upon

from
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Citrulline_Benefits.aspx


will losing weight and lowering cholesterol help restore the endothelial?
I wish I had known about this as a kid, and even in my 20s, sheesh....
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 25, 2012, 09:44:12 pm
I think we're all willing to trust on the BMs.

Yes, if Viagra/Cialis/Levitra aren't working for you, that can be a sign that your endothelium is in pretty bad shape.  Lifestyle is critical at that point as it can allow your endothelium (the lining of your arteries) to heal.  Losing weight can really help for many reasons.  One of them is that when you go through the dieting phase, inflammation goes way down and this is just what the doctor ordered.

Now, if you really want to heal your endothelium, you may want to consider a Low Fat Diet or something close.  It actually clears out the plaque and can accelerate that healing process.  Just do a search on my site and I have quite a bit of info on it.  It may, though, lower T slightly, although I'm not so sure in your case.

Anyway, you sound like you have your own of eating, but I'm just mentioning it.  The Mediterranean Diet also has good outcomes as well.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 26, 2012, 12:34:12 am
great, I can still take  get myself  CV system better, although I can get erections, the quality of the erection varies, but exercise/losing weight is what I'm doing, so its good to hear that I'm not always going to be like this, it would make the quality  of my life pretty horrible.

I read about The Mediterranean Diet http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Med.aspx and I have a few questions, for my own good and for my parents:

They primarily eat protein from ground turkey, which has 25grams of saturated fat...(80 total fat) 210 protein...yet they   cook it on a george foreman grill don't really know how much saturated fat they are getting.... but does mean increase inflammation?After reading your ebook, and site, I find: Yes, it does.
 Arachidonic Acid  in turkey (70 mg), pork (50 mg) and chicken (50 mg) increase inflammation. Isnt inflammation what causes fat to stick to the endothelium? so no inflammation, then we dont need to worry about fat so much?


is fat essential to a diet?  I know omega-3s are essential, but isnt that it? I think not, because of dean ornishe


How do I decrease inflammation?
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Inflammation.aspx

OH, cool so you wrote an article on it,
a few questions about that article
-eggs
I am eating 2 whole eggs a day, I dont like eggs, but I read on your site how whole eggs raise HDL
This study found that neither bad cholesterol nor triglycerides, the bad cholesterols, were increased significantly at all, while HDL, the good cholesterol, was increased by almost 50%!  In other words, there is a good chance, although this has not been studies either way, that a whole egg a day is actually heart healthy.
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/BeefnEggs.aspx

but whole eggs also increase inflammation? 
so how many eggs can I eat a day? Im going to eat 2 a day.mostly to get the nutrients for the eye. and the rest of the protein I get from eggwhites

or should I skip Whole eggs altogether, as you say in your book, "peak erectile strength",  vegans have about a 7% high testosterone.
 level than meat eaters.

also, Im not sure what kindof chocolate I should be eating?  I know you said "standard Hershey's and Nestle's cocoa that you buy in the supermarkets (in the U.S.) use a processing called Broma that leaves the flavanol content largely untouched."  but does that mean I can buy a Dove piece and thats good?(20grams every 3 days)  (I think so)


Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 26, 2012, 09:01:53 am
I think that inflammation factors are one of the most important things to watch in your diet and both turkey and egg yolks are high in AA, which can lead to elevated inflammation.  Eggs yolks are packed with great nutrients, though, such as choline, lutein, etc.  Imo this is a case where moderation is the key for most people.  Again, though, if your endothelium is quite damaged, you may need to be ultracareful and eliminate these from your diet.  It is important to realize that inflammation is behind so many of our modern health issues.

Yes, from what I have read, cholesterol could be considered a secondary player behind inflammation in arteriosclerosis.  But that is not to say that cholesterol does not play a role and should be ignored.  I keep my cholesterol below 150.

I use Navitas' cocoa powder myself.  See my site for details.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 27, 2012, 09:41:31 am
somewhere you mention the outer part of meat, which has cooked/harder edges, has a lot of something that makes its more likely to cause cancer(maybe)
but I cant find that article, do you know what I'm talking about?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Cronos on March 27, 2012, 10:32:54 am
I'm not sure on Peak T's link so maybe he'll put it up. But I believe you're talking about HCA's (heterocyclic amines) the stuff that accumulates on meat when we cook it at high heats and/or for long periods of time. These things can cause DNA damage and cause damage to the prostate.

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 27, 2012, 10:40:22 am
Here you go guys:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/PSA_2010.aspx

See section on HCA's (heterocylic amines).
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 27, 2012, 11:18:47 am
thanks guys!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 27, 2012, 11:42:56 am
I put water into my car,,, it's liquid and water is cheap
I had gas in there, but the car broke down....so I guess some stuff I can put in my gas tank I shouldnt cause it wont work....

Im sure the same idea is for food

so what should I eat?
eggwhites
broccoli and tomatoes
apples
grapes
all fruit?
all veggies?

so about about steak?  what cut would have the lowest HCA's?
what about sherbet? Or low fat ice  cream?
I can eat like Dr ornish says to eat 85% of the time, or more than that, one meal on saturdays to indulge my cravings.  so through the week my diet is eggwhites and fruit and veggies and coffee
no apartme, so no soda, no quality gum......damn this bites 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 27, 2012, 01:18:38 pm
You can always try the Mediterranean Diet?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 27, 2012, 01:41:48 pm
Mediterranean Diet?  maybe after I lose most of this fat Im carrying,
I'm going to be on dr ornish diet til I get to 20% fat
Im not clear why he doesnt allow more protein?
20% of my calories isnt a lot.... but  I need to clean out those pipes, heart dz runs in my family,  on both side ;D
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 27, 2012, 06:10:33 pm
Gotcha.  Well, I think you'll find that you feel so good that you'll be glad to do it.  I'm not much of chef, but there are many sites out there with good Low Fat recipes if you're int'd.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 29, 2012, 03:16:42 pm
I am drinking half to one whole jug of diet cranberry juice made with splenda,
thats not a problem, right?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 29, 2012, 08:20:40 pm
You probably don't want too much fructose.  A young guy keeping it below about 40 grams is probably okay.  But some experts say 25 grams max.  Of course, cranberry is not very sweet, so you'll have to check that out. 

Even so, remember that juices are very powerful.  I'm not saying it's bad for you, but I think it's always better to eat a well-rounded, whole foods diet trying to not overemphasize any one food (or drink). 

For example, did you know that cranberry is an iron chelator?

BioFactors, Volume 37, Issue 2, pages 121–130, March/April 2011, "Iron chelation by cranberry juice and its impact on Escherichia coli growth"

It is so powerful that in the above study, it actually inhibits E. Coli growth.  So a lot of cranberry juice can have actual clinical effects and I am not sure we really understand all of them.  And keep in mind that our ancestors at fruit, not the juice squeezed out of a pile of them.

I have no doubt juice is good for you, and, as you know, recommend a few in my book.  But I also point out not to "go crazy."

Also, you can read here about how Tim Ferris is anti-juice and why:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Anti-Juice.aspx


Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 30, 2012, 03:30:37 am
40 calories a bottle?
how much fructose is that?

so I want to avoid bad things, so no BPA in plastic bottles, no fluoride in drinking water, what do I drink?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 30, 2012, 03:47:14 am
For example, did you know that cranberry is an iron chelator


I did not know that but dont Eades say low iron increases life span?
Protein Power" by Michael R. Eades, M.D., and Mary D. Eades, M.D


"Anthropologists have known for decades that the health of humanity took a turn for the worse when our ancestors abandoned their hunter-gatherer means of subsistence in favor of the farm somewhere between eight-thousand and ten-thousand years ago. The fossil record leaves little doubt that compared to their farming successors, the hunters were more robust, had greater bone density, decreased infant mortality, a longer life span, a lower incidence of infectious diseases and------- iron-deficiency anemia, ==========fewer enamel defects, and little or no tooth decay.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 30, 2012, 05:49:02 am
40 calories a bottle?
how much fructose is that?

so I want to avoid bad things, so no BPA in plastic bottles, no fluoride in drinking water, what do I drink?

Lol.  Well, remember that I consider my primary role a "reporter" of sorts.  So sometimes I just report what's out there and it's not always good.  Right now humanity is going through a transitional phase where we are experimenting, learning and, more often than not, poisoning ourselves and our children.  It's all part of learning the hard way and, unfortunately, you and I are the guinea pigs.

Did you read that they just found that Round Up is very toxic to the cells in the mouth and throat?  It will probably be banned soon, but I've sprayed that stuff all over the place.  I could go on and on with examples and we just have to do our best for now.

I do have one word of hope:  with a proper lifestyle the body can weather things quite well if we take the Okinawans as an example.  They lived in a very modern, industrial area and yet were one of most health, long-lived peoples on earth.

Well, ideally, you'd drink filtered water.  And keep drinking the cranberry.  I was just saying you might want to not drink too much...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 30, 2012, 05:53:34 am
For example, did you know that cranberry is an iron chelator


I did not know that but dont Eades say low iron increases life span?
Protein Power" by Michael R. Eades, M.D., and Mary D. Eades, M.D


"Anthropologists have known for decades that the health of humanity took a turn for the worse when our ancestors abandoned their hunter-gatherer means of subsistence in favor of the farm somewhere between eight-thousand and ten-thousand years ago. The fossil record leaves little doubt that compared to their farming successors, the hunters were more robust, had greater bone density, decreased infant mortality, a longer life span, a lower incidence of infectious diseases and------- iron-deficiency anemia, ==========fewer enamel defects, and little or no tooth decay.

Mary Eades, eh?  Well, I'm not too big on the hunter-gatherer theory.  There's a whole 'nuther thread about that and I've discussed it a fair amount on the site.  Just use the Search button on the top of my site and look up things like "Atkins", "Paleo", "Mediterranean", "Low Fat" and "Low Carb" and you'll get a lot of basic info if you are interested.

But I'm not trying to force my views on anyone.  Try different diets, do your research and figure out what works best for you.

Here's the thread if you're interested:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=106.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 30, 2012, 09:53:53 am
40 calories a bottle?
how much fructose is that?


Well, ideally, you'd drink filtered water.  And keep drinking the cranberry.  I was just saying you might want to not drink too much...
that's what I'm  really asking about
a jug has 40 calories total
isnt that just 10 grams of fuctose?
and you say the limit should be about 50 grams?
so drinking a whole jug, plus 2 apples a day is below 50, way below?
at any rate, I'll stick to less diet cranberry juice, as I do drink 8oz of pomegranate
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 30, 2012, 10:25:56 am

Well, ideally, you'd drink filtered water.  And keep drinking the cranberry.  I was just saying you might want to not drink too much...

I was thinking, what kind of filter should I use?
I'd buy distilled water, no fluoride, then put it through the filter........sound good?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 30, 2012, 01:49:48 pm

Well, ideally, you'd drink filtered water.  And keep drinking the cranberry.  I was just saying you might want to not drink too much...

I was thinking, what kind of filter should I use?
I'd buy distilled water, no fluoride, then put it through the filter........sound good?

The ideal is a good home filtration system.  Not everyone can afford that however...

Imo the less you drink anything from plastic the better until they get all this sorted out.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 30, 2012, 03:11:46 pm

Well, ideally, you'd drink filtered water.  And keep drinking the cranberry.  I was just saying you might want to not drink too much...

I was thinking, what kind of filter should I use?
I'd buy distilled water, no fluoride, then put it through the filter........sound good?

The ideal is a good home filtration system.  Not everyone can afford that however...

Imo the less you drink anything from plastic the better until they get all this sorted out.
yes, thats my issue with the home filtration sytem,I was thinking about getting a brita
I doubt they ever get anything sorted out, I look at the transfat issue..we all know transfats are bad for you, yet the fda goes to great lenghths to allow us to keep eating transfats
simply telling us the nutrition of a whole package(of whatever we buy) and anything about 0.000mg would allow people to make better choices
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 03, 2012, 03:01:23 pm
I got my nativas chocolate today
it's not a hershey kiss at all, but I enjoy it, straight, no tea, nothing, small amount straight to mouth, washed down with water....tastes good, makes me happy!

I know you said the Kuna  tribe has more than 1 gram/day, what is the max you should take/day?
3.5 oz./day of dark chocolate lowered blood pressure by 12 and 9 points after just 15 days!
how many grams is there?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 03, 2012, 05:05:36 pm
beet root juice
does it have to be juice?

do you recommend any kind, juice or capsule?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 04, 2012, 07:56:25 am
You're just trying to get the nitrates, so any decent brand should be good. 

The extracts should be good but are relatively new.  No brand recommendations at this point.  I looked in Consumer Lab and don't see anything either.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 07, 2012, 03:38:30 pm
i eat a lot of eggwhites from better than eggs
I have started to pour them into a bowl and mircowave them until they are semisolid, 4-8 mins depending on amount of eggwhites

this isnt an issue? they are still eggwhites? they arent burnt tasting...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 07, 2012, 07:30:08 pm
I'd be a little nervous a) doing them in the microwave and b) not cooking them all the way.  The reason is that a high number of eggs have salmonella and it's very important to wash your hands after handling and cook the eggs very thoroughly.  Salmonella is rare, but if you get a full-fledged case, it's very miserable.

And, btw, there has been a recent outbreak that was leaked:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57409280-10391704/salmonella-spreading-rapidly-across-19-states-spicy-tuna-rolls-to-blame/
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 07, 2012, 07:49:21 pm
oh, opps
I wasnt very clear
I posted that Better than Eggs is where I get my eggwhites from
http://www.thebestlife.com/assets/img/approved-foods/logo2_03.jpg

so they are in BPA free containers( I asked) and I pour them and microwave them
usually, I just drink the eggwhites straight, when I cookthem I add Franks Hot sauce to help them go down
no fears of Salmonella
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 07, 2012, 08:09:30 pm
Can you send the ingredient list?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 07, 2012, 08:27:15 pm
100% eggwhites
http://www.allwhiteseggwhites.com/products/product.cfm?prid=1
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 08, 2012, 03:15:45 am
I get my vi C from pills, not by eating oranges, I imagine vit C from oranges is the same as vit C from pills

I also tend not to eat so much broccoli because I get my Diindolylmethane (DIM) from Purebulks Diindolylmethane (DIM) powder
is that as good as broccoli?

http://purebulk.com/diindolylmethane-dim
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 08, 2012, 04:21:07 pm
Gotcha.  Well, I would still make sure they were cooked thoroughly.

And the DIM supplements have much more than what you would get a serving of broccoli, so there's really no comparison.  You would have to eat literally pounds and pounds of broccoli.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 08, 2012, 04:42:25 pm
I dont usually cook them at all, they are pasteurized

I sometimes microwave them in the microwave for about 6 mins, When done  they have  the consistency of spongecake with a crusty coating, what I was concerned about is that outer coating, it's just eggwhites, but could the microwaving cause it to contain HCA's (heterocyclic amines)?


HCAs form on the surface of cooked proteins when they're prepared by high heat cooking methods. Those cooking methods include both charring on a grill and hard-searing in a skillet on the stove. The more well-done or charred a protein, the more HCAs are produced. In the 2007 update to their study, the AICR listed that HCA formation might be related to development of certain cancers. However, the group's most recent study update found a definite causal link between people who consumed a high level of well-done or charred meats and proteins, and people who developed colon, lung and prostate cancers.
 
http://www.examiner.com/colorectal-cancer-in-national/save-the-family-barbeque-grilling-tips-can-reduce-colorectal-cancer-risk



also, if whole eggs increase HDL, why arent they on your list?
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/How_To_Increase_HDL_Levels.aspx
Researchers also recently found that eggs do something strange and marvelous:  they substantially raise HDL (at least in overweight men on a calorie restricted diet). [11]  This study found that neither bad cholesterol nor triglycerides, the bad cholesterols, were increased significantly at all, while HDL, the good cholesterol, was increased by almost 50%!  In other words, there is a good chance, although this has not been studies either way, that a whole egg a day is actually heart healthy.
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/BeefnEggs.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 08, 2012, 04:57:59 pm
Gotcha.  Don't know the answer for sure about the HCA's, although I don't think so.

Also, you have to realize that my site it put together by a guy with a pretty demanding day job, wife and three kids.  So I admit that not only is the site not particularly well-edited but it is definitely not comprehensive.  I generally agree with you regarding egg yolks, and think that the benes of eating an egg are approximately equal to the cons.  But I do have one concern:  AA.  Egg yolks are pretty high in Arachidonic Acid and so it very much a tradeoff food.  It has great antioxidants (lutein, etc.), good brain nutrients (Choline) and so on.  On the other hand, it will slightly raise cholesterol and may increase inflammation depending on a variety of lifestyle and dietary factors.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 08, 2012, 05:27:34 pm
I like this site, it's not perfect, but you provide great information and you can't beat the price.  Im certainly not trying to do more than pose question,(I thought there might have been a reason why eggs weren't in the HDL building article)
If I find out about HCAs in microwaved eggwhites, I'll mention it..I read that microwaving meat helps reduce HCAs compared to cooking.

I know I wish I had known this stuff before I go into my 20s, or even 30s,  I envy your kids! (espically if they're males!)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 08, 2012, 10:00:26 pm
Thx.  I was reading a little more into your question. 

As far as my family.  Well, "a prophet is not without honor except..."
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 09, 2012, 09:23:47 am
Teeth
I have receding gums
I have no cavities though
I had braces
I want keep my teeth
http://www.oramd.com/

I'll try that product out, it has a 100% guareentee for 1 year and a 200% refund in 90 days
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Toothpaste_Dangers.aspx
I saw how toothpaste is bad here, I dont know a solution....I
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 09, 2012, 09:35:29 am
Gotcha.  Don't know the answer for sure about the HCA's, although I don't think so.

I agree.
I asked my old med school biochemistry teacher for her opinion, she said:

You always ask interesting questions that I don't have easy answers to!  But, I can certainly tell you what I think.

There are studies over the past 25 years that show heterocyclic amines can be formed when muscle meat is cooked.  The amount of these compounds are dependent on cooking time and method.  It also appears that their formation requires creatine, which is a molecule found in muscle.  I have not found anything that indicates creatine is found in egg whites.  So, my expectation is that even though egg whites have a lot of protein, it is unlikely that they are generating amounts of heterocylic amines that are found in red meats cooked at high temperatures.  Also, I expect your cooking method is unlikely to generate the HCAs to any great extent because the cooking time is relatively short.

Heterocyclic amines will be biotransformed in the body to compounds that are more easily excreted.  From what I have looked at, most of these molecules are biotransformed by a cytochrome P450 enzyme (a phase I reaction), followed by phase II reactions that attach glucuronic acid (a sugar), sulfate or glutathione to the molecule.  Both phase I and phase II reactions make the molecule more water soluble, so that it can be excreted from the body more easily.  So, part of whether these molecules will be carcinogenic will depend on the efficiency of these enzymes.  There was a study done several years ago that looked at whether compounds in broccoli or brussel sprouts affected the biotransformation of one of these heterocyclic amines, PhIP.  These researches found that the biotransformation of PhIP to a non-toxic, excretable form was enhanced by compounds in the cruciferous vegatables.


So, my advice, for what it is worth is to

    Reduce your intake of meat cooked at high temperatures for a long time.  One way to do this is to choose other protein sources, such as the egg white you cook in the microwave.
    Eat a well-balanced diet with lots of fruits and vegetables.   
    Get plenty of exercise.


--so no, I dont think she knows,but leans toward saying no.

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 09, 2012, 09:48:41 am
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Toothpaste_Dangers.aspx
I saw how toothpaste is bad here, I dont know a solution....I

I haven't found a good solution yet either and feel somewhat caught between a rock and a hard place considering that oral health is so critical to heart health which is so critical to sexual health...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 09, 2012, 11:22:40 am
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Toothpaste_Dangers.aspx
I saw how toothpaste is bad here, I dont know a solution....I

I haven't found a good solution yet either and feel somewhat caught between a rock and a hard place considering that oral health is so critical to heart health which is so critical to sexual health...

I am going to try out the oramd stuff I posted about. I am willing to send you a copy of the ebook that came with my order.I'll send it to your email now.  no rush, Im trying to share what I learn, even though its not much
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 12, 2012, 01:34:59 pm
I bought some Tribulus, but I dont see how to use it on your site?
I forgot why I got it
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 12, 2012, 01:43:05 pm
You'll just have to try it to see if it helps.  It's very individual.  I've got a little information on it here:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Herbs.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Male_Libido_Supplements.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/How-To-Increase-Testosterone-Naturally.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 12, 2012, 02:26:13 pm
You'll just have to try it to see if it helps.  It's very individual.  I've got a little information on it here:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Herbs.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Male_Libido_Supplements.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/How-To-Increase-Testosterone-Naturally.aspx


Thanks, Peak.
There is a site you use(I think you have to pay to be a member) that tells you the best quality suppplements(Like CA , K, vit D, Omega 3)  what is that site?
I have gotten my macca, tribulus, GHW, got my pycnognol, my oraMD and my powders(citriliine), caco, DIM, all in glass containers and all I need to do now is lose about 45lbs, but otherwise feel great

I took some tribulus and maca and caco and  I had a question about the mental state that can affect test. levels
I dated a girl, she was beneath me, I was in medical school at the time, she was a meth user, she had a part time job, I didnt trust her, she had HepC....she constantly wanted me to take charge and bone her. and she seemed honest to an extent about her disease
she didnt want my help in fighting it, she feared tooth loss, even though I had studies that explained why tooth loss occurs(no saliva, etc) but I was with her about 9 months.....she was rarely supportive of me, considerng I had been in a coma, I have no friends to lean on anymore, I had made her life
its taken me 2 yrs to recover from her and in that 2 yrs I've gotten fatter, had few desirable sexual partners, 

have I caused permanent damage to myself?  or will I not know till I lose this fat Im carrying around?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 13, 2012, 05:33:10 am
You mentioned the coma.  There's another guy on this board who had brain surgery - can't even imagine what you guys have been through.

There's no guarantees in this life as they say, but you're young and you can almost for sure make a full recovery.  From what I've seen, if you do all the stuff you know you need to do (based on science, etc.), you can easily pull through this.

And let me point out something else important:  let's say you only recover 80% or 90%.  If you ramp up the exercise a little or perhaps take a few supplements, you'll probably find you can get back to where you were.

The important thing is this:  don't give up.  Everyone around you will be doing crazy stuff to their bodies and minds - let them do what they want.  But don't give into them.

And sorry to hear about your girlfriend.  I'll say the obvious:  you just gotta find the right woman...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 19, 2012, 11:22:58 pm
You mentioned the coma.  There's another guy on this board who had brain surgery - can't even imagine what you guys have been through.

There's no guarantees in this life as they say, but you're young and you can almost for sure make a full recovery.  From what I've seen, if you do all the stuff you know you need to do (based on science, etc.), you can easily pull through this.

And let me point out something else important:  let's say you only recover 80% or 90%.  If you ramp up the exercise a little or perhaps take a few supplements, you'll probably find you can get back to where you were.

The important thing is this:  don't give up.  Everyone around you will be doing crazy stuff to their bodies and minds - let them do what they want.  But don't give into them.

And sorry to hear about your girlfriend.  I'll say the obvious:  you just gotta find the right woman...

The coma and it's effects on me, mostly a brain stem injury....with means my autonomic system, breathing(dysarthria) is mostly affected...  wasnt the worst part, the worst part was it's affect on my social life,  all my medical school friends went on with their lives, so I am starting a new life, and not being able to talk right makes people look at you "differently"; which I am fully aware of because I am still on the right side of the bell curve, you think because I "stutter/bad breath support" that Im retared.
 my lastest question is about resveratrol

as I am losing fat, I've lost 25lbs since posting on here(yes, I self medicated using food, which is my drug of choice)
I bought some resveratrol  from purebulk and they recommend 250mg/dose
on the site you say use mega doses, I dont have the study Arch Pharm Res, 2008, 31(1):83-87, but how do you define mega doses?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 20, 2012, 06:11:09 am
Well, I greatly admire what you're doing - seriously - and keep up the good work.

There are many injustices in life and your example is yet another one of them.  We just don't give each other a fair shot most of the time and judge much too quickly. All I can say is "give 'em hell" and show everyone what you can do anyway.

Hopefully, you can find an understanding group of friends?

As far as resveratrol, it is truly miraculous.  Study after study shows just mind-boggling properties.  And that's what worries me a little.  It is SO powerful that I feel they don't fully understand it yet.  It seems to affect so many systems in the body. 

This is my bottom line with resveratrol:  let's see some mortality studies.  If it boosts mortality, then I may start taking it.  But right now it's too speculative imo.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 20, 2012, 07:53:36 am
Well, I greatly admire what you're doing - seriously - and keep up the good work.

There are many injustices in life and your example is yet another one of them.  We just don't give each other a fair shot most of the time and judge much too quickly. All I can say is "give 'em hell" and show everyone what you can do anyway.

Hopefully, you can find an understanding group of friends?

As far as resveratrol, it is truly miraculous.  Study after study shows just mind-boggling properties.  And that's what worries me a little.  It is SO powerful that I feel they don't fully understand it yet.  It seems to affect so many systems in the body. 

This is my bottom line with resveratrol:  let's see some mortality studies.  If it boosts mortality, then I may start taking it.  But right now it's too speculative imo.
I watched as my grandma went from a vibrant 60yo to a horrid state at 89, with full dementia.
she stopped being able to care for herself at 75, which meant 14 years of saddness
so my parents have nursing home insurance(from when it was cheaper than today) yet Id prefer to not endure that pain again
so Im not entirely sure what you are waiting on.

http://www.nutraingredients.com/news/ng.asp?n=63697

Resveratrol tackles Alzheimer's plaques, shows lab study

By Dominique Patton
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 20, 2012, 09:37:33 am
Well, I greatly admire what you're doing - seriously - and keep up the good work.

There are many injustices in life and your example is yet another one of them.  We just don't give each other a fair shot most of the time and judge much too quickly. All I can say is "give 'em hell" and show everyone what you can do anyway.

Hopefully, you can find an understanding group of friends?

As far as resveratrol, it is truly miraculous.  Study after study shows just mind-boggling properties.  And that's what worries me a little.  It is SO powerful that I feel they don't fully understand it yet.  It seems to affect so many systems in the body. 

This is my bottom line with resveratrol:  let's see some mortality studies.  If it boosts mortality, then I may start taking it.  But right now it's too speculative imo.
so Im not entirely sure what you are waiting on.
Yes, I understand what you are saying.  However, this begs an important question:

Can Alzheimer's be prevented via other more tested methods than resveratrol?

My own two cents is that inflammation is the likely primary culprit behind Alzheimer's and, interestingly enough, resveratrol attacks inflammation:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474976

For example, read this very interesting and recent article on how they shut off and turned on the beta amyloid accumulation via inflammation processes in a 2009 study:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090708181204.htm

So imo - and I admit I'm not a researcher - it is very likely that you can prevent Alzheimer's without taking resveratrol.  Now resveratrol may prove to be the Fountain of Youth, but I'd rather wait a few years and see how it shakes out. 

Of course, not everyone is going to agree on supplements, so I'm just stating how I see it for better or worse...

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 20, 2012, 11:09:38 pm

Can Alzheimer's be prevented via other more tested methods than resveratrol?

My own two cents is that inflammation is the likely primary culprit behind Alzheimer's and, interestingly enough, resveratrol attacks inflammation:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474976

For example, read this very interesting and recent article on how they shut off and turned on the beta amyloid accumulation via inflammation processes in a 2009 study:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090708181204.htm

So imo - and I admit I'm not a researcher - it is very likely that you can prevent Alzheimer's without taking resveratrol.  Now resveratrol may prove to be the Fountain of Youth, but I'd rather wait a few years and see how it shakes out. 

Of course, not everyone is going to agree on supplements, so I'm just stating how I see it for better or worse...
Peak,
First off, I want to thank you for making this site, again.
when I was in medical school, I was assigned clinic duties to help treat indigent patients.  I was just a student and I would question the doctor about we didnt do any preventive care?
 we would simple treat the disorder, not educate the patient and send them on their way.

Diabetic?  take more insulin, come back when your foot has to be removed, etc

This always bugged me, even when I was doing rehab for my TBI, there was no resource to use to fix me, I finally found a few places that had scientifcally proven what they do
http://www.centerformusictherapy.com/about
http://www.facebook.com/ReintegrativeHealth

Currently,   I have now found your site and I'm swamped with information, backed with science, how to get my youth back and I'm so very thankful.


I found stuff relating to Alzheimer

Reversal Of Alzheimer's Symptoms Within Minutes In Human Study
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080109091102.htm
This new study highlights the importance of certain soluble proteins, called cytokines, in Alzheimer’s disease. The study focuses on one of these cytokines, tumor necrosis factor-alpha(TNF), a critical component of the brain’s immune system. Normally, TNF finely regulates the transmission of neural impulses in the brain. The authors hypothesized that elevated levels of TNF in Alzheimer’s disease interfere with this regulation. To reduce elevated TNF, the authors gave patients an injection of an anti-TNF therapeutic called etanercept. Excess TNF-alpha has been documented in the cerebrospinal fluid of patients with Alzheimer’s.

I agree that Alzheimer's can be avoided/treated with other ways not a supplement, either change in lifestyle eating or using your mind more.   I'm  not sure which, I know food is a huge drug and I'd like to think diet can lower inflammation.  Which I read on this site it can.

I hate eating broccoli, I an drink it..
 what blender can make broccoli into a liquid
I've been reading about how horrible meat is, you must understand I love meat, and May 2010. I did the Big Texan 72oz challenge(http://bigtexan.com/free72.html) but when I read how horrid saturated fat is and been shown to decrease blood flow and stiffen blood vessels.  I am a big eggwhite eater now.


Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 20, 2012, 11:35:35 pm
I have gone to a 98% all protein from eggwhites diet
I can only tell you this:  animal protein has some very positive AND some very negative qualities.  It is almost always a mistake to ignore or hide the research and such is the case with animal protein.  I eat between a half dozen and a dozen egg whites every day, but I know there are potential issues there
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Inflammation.aspx
.
what is the issue with what I bolded?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 21, 2012, 05:43:50 am
it is hard to be healthy,
my sister dropped out of medical school because she hated the system, shes a lawyer now.

I splurged last night and at 3 donuts from Krispy Kreme...yes I was foolish]

(http://76.163.242.17/uploaded_images/krispy-kreme-zero-trans-fat-761261.jpg)

they have the transfats

I thought I was being smart, at QT, I dont use Plastic cups, I use styrofoam,  to avoid BPA
but it's in them as well

so what can I use?

Paper cups?, no
Styrofoam cups?no(maybe?)

Ive started to use a PLastic bpa free cup for a while, till I read
BPA, a compound that mimics estrogen, which is found in many plastics , isn't the only issue in plastic products. A report from Georgetown University, PlastiPure, and CertiChem (a chemical testing company) found that even BPA-free plastics have estrogenic activity.
http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info%3Adoi%2F10.1289%2Fehp.1003220

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 21, 2012, 07:23:40 am
I would really try to avoid BPA - there are just too many studies now.  I personally avoid receipts and canned goods and that probably gets rid of 80% of my exposure.  I drink out of plastic myself, simply because of convenience, but ideally I'd carry around a glass or stainless container.  But sometimes we have to make compromises.

I don't know of any issue with styrofoam.  Styrene is nasty stuff, but I've never seen a report that there is significant styrene in styrofoam cups.  Let me know if you find something...

I hate to tell you that I laughed at the Krispy Kreams.  Just forgive yourself and go on.  You'll find that after awhile you'll actually lose a lot of your cravings for stuff like that.  Pretty soon it starts to taste kind of nauseating.  But imo it never really goes away completely, so you've just got to be as disciplined as you can be...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 22, 2012, 01:39:10 am


I hate to tell you that I laughed at the Krispy Kreams.  Just forgive yourself and go on.  You'll find that after awhile you'll actually lose a lot of your cravings for stuff like that.  Pretty soon it starts to taste kind of nauseating.  But imo it never really goes away completely, so you've just got to be as disciplined as you can be...
the reason I felt like I did...and I tried to post the ad-copy that says  NO TRANSFATS*on the post I made

*per serving

I know what that per serving BS means, it means there are transfats...but I was too excited/too tired to notice the * in the ad-copy, sadly I've done the same thing in the past at the grocery store where I dont notice the* and dont read the ingredients
When I realize what I've done, I think to myself, "wtf is wrong with me?"
then I remember brain injury,
then I laugh at my lame excuse and dont make the mistake again


Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 22, 2012, 02:20:39 am
On February 19, 2007, Krispy Kreme began selling the Whole Wheat Glazed doughnut in an attempt to appeal to the health conscious. The doughnut has 83.736 kJ (20 kilocalories in most countries, or 20 Calories in the US) fewer than the original glazed (754 kJ vs. 837 kJ) and contains more fiber (2 grams vs. 0.5 grams). As of January 2008, the trans fat content of all Krispy Kreme doughnuts was reduced to 0.5 of a gram or less. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration, in its guidelines, allows companies to round down to 0 g in its nutrition facts label even if the food contains as much as 0.5 of a gram per serving. Krispy Kreme benefited from this regulatory rule in its subsequent advertising campaign, touting its doughnuts as "trans fat free" and having "0 grams trans fat!".[2]
From wikipedia

and

http://www.ajc.com/living/content/shared-blogs/ajc/tabletalk/entries/2008/01/07/krispy_kreme_dr.html

Krispy Kreme drops trans fats

By Elizabeth Lee | Monday, January 7, 2008, 12:31 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Krispy Kreme announced Monday that it has dropped trans fats from its menu. That means its doughnuts and other foods and beverages contain less than a half-gram of trans fats.

But the original glazed doughnut is still a 200-calorie indulgence of white flour, sugar and fat, deep-fried in a blend of vegetable oil and palm oil that's higher in saturated fats than the previous formula.

The bottom line: An original glazed doughnut still contains 200 calories and 12 grams of total fat. It now has 6 grams of bad fats (all saturated) rather than the 7 grams of saturated and trans fats that it had before.

The doughnut hounds in the newsroom didn't notice any change in taste, although, of course, they complained that they were sampling cold doughnuts instead of hot ones. (It's the first formula change for the original glazed since the '80s.)

Does removing trans fats from Krispy Kreme doughnuts affect whether you'll eat them? How about in other restaurant foods, like French fries?


WhY does .5g/serving mean 0?   why is this allowed?  is there any question why americans/people are all becoming fatties?
transfats are horrible, so why are they legal? why does the FDA have new math that says, .5=0
if I got 89.5% in a class, that gets rounded UP to 90%,
Whats the money trail say?
who is getting rich by making americans get fat, its not in the best interest for americans to allow transfats to be legal, so who's getting paid?

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 22, 2012, 07:14:21 am
The FDA sometimes watches out for us consumers.  However, they are very understaffed and much too overly cautious. 

I don't know why - one can speculate that it is political - but I'm not so sure that explains everything.  Right now physicians are very cautious as well.  How many physicians really believe that trans fats are that bad?  The whole community - docs/FDA/big pharma - they're just behind the 8 ball.

Eventually, they'll catch up. This is kind of an interesting scenario, where an increasingly educated public along with the  alternative, anti-aging, preventative, and naturopathic communities are dragging the corporations and medical schools along and forcing them to change.

It's just a matter of time imo... 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 23, 2012, 01:29:55 am
The FDA sometimes watches out for us consumers.  However, they are very understaffed and much too overly cautious. 

I don't know why - one can speculate that it is political - but I'm not so sure that explains everything.  Right now physicians are very cautious as well.  How many physicians really believe that trans fats are that bad?  The whole community - docs/FDA/big pharma - they're just behind the 8 ball.

Eventually, they'll catch up. This is kind of an interesting scenario, where an increasingly educated public along with the  alternative, anti-aging, preventative, and naturopathic communities are dragging the corporations and medical schools along and forcing them to change.

It's just a matter of time imo...
I dont see anything other than lies in what th FDA is doing, Im not saying it's debatable about transfat I am stating facts, that .5 is mathematically rounded to 1 and not to 0
so the FDA is lying
I have to read the ingredients to determine if there are transfats?  and since when does anyone abide how  much is 1 serving?
Just tell me how much is in the whole box/container, and let me figure out the rest

because they are being paid off seems very logical
being understaffed etc, isnt a valid reason for their illogical practices

http://www.leekemp.com/athletenutrition/2011/08/the-trans-fat-scam-continues-as-americans-fall-for-the-fda-lie/
If you think the Government is here to protect us… Think again! Just take a look at this one example of how the FDA, through allowing deceptive practices to go on, is destroying our nation’s health and lining “Big Pharma’s” pockets.

NPR’s (National Public Radio) reported one deceptive and dishonest practice by food manufacturers, affectionately called the “trans fat loophole”, that is 100% approved and allowed by the FDA.  Food manufacturers take this lack of concern from the FDA and they “run with it”.

The FDA allows  food manufacturers to promote any product as having “ZERO TRANS FATS” if the product contains less than 0.5 percent of trans fat per serving. When it comes to fat, trans fat is considered to be the worst type of fat. Unlike other fats, trans fat — also called trans-fatty acids — both raises your “bad” (LDL) cholesterol and lowers your “good” (HDL) cholesterol.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 23, 2012, 01:37:16 am
FDA isnt on my side about BPA, so why trust them about transfats?


http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bisphenol-a-47081601
digg

The Food and Drug Administration, true to form, has sided with the chemical industry and against independent scientists in determining the safety of Bisphenol-A, an ingredient in some plastics and in the lining of plastic cans.

It released a draft assessment, declaring the controversial chemical safe, Friday, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, which has led the major media coverage of that and other chemicals, and the apparent bias the FDA has shown for industry studies that often are not peer-reviewed and published in scientific literature.

Read more: http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/bisphenol-a-47081601#ixzz1sqoX82be
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 23, 2012, 03:48:57 am
Peak
what are your thoughts about Diindolylmethane?(DIM)

I get mine from
http://www.bioresponse.com/Return-Policy.asp

and I dont know if it's any good to get or anything about its efficacy other than what they say
I do try to get in broccoli into my diet, but 100mg of DIM is hard to get from the actual veggie
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 23, 2012, 06:57:50 am
When you start taking that much of a supplement, you're starting to essentially take a pharmaceutical.  Is it safe to take Arimedex long term?  That's a hard question to answer and also depends somewhat on the situation...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 23, 2012, 07:07:56 am
When you start taking that much of a supplement, you're starting to essentially take a pharmaceutical.  Is it safe to take Arimedex long term?  That's a hard question to answer and also depends somewhat on the situation...
I didnt even know it was effective, let alone a pharmaceutical.
I think till I get my belly fat down, as Im doing, or get my test. numbers up, I will take 200mg a day,  I know when Im lean, I have no erection issues, I have no idea what my T-levels are lean. but I know I have issues now and being fat is a large chunk of them
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 24, 2012, 02:55:28 am
Peak
any take on 7-Keto-DHEA, I cant find you address it, I see you address DHEA, but7-Keto-DHEA is different
7-keto-DHEA is a by-product of dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), a chemical that is formed in the body. DHEA is a "parent hormone" produced by glands near the kidneys. But unlike DHEA, 7-keto-DHEA is not converted to steroid hormones such as androgen and estrogen. Taking 7-keto-DHEA by mouth or applying it to the skin does not increase the level of steroid hormones in the blood.

People take 7-keto-DHEA to speed up the metabolism and heat production to promote weight loss. 7-keto-DHEA is also used to improve lean body mass and build muscle, increase the activity of the thyroid gland, boost the immune system, enhance memory, and slow aging.

How does it work?

7-keto-DHEA might promote weight loss by speeding up the body's metabolism.
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-835-7-KETO-DHEA.aspx?activeIngredientId=835&activeIngredientName=7-KETO-DHEA
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 24, 2012, 08:14:23 am
I haven't researched that one.  Do you have time to give us a few studies and the safety profile?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 24, 2012, 09:04:41 am
I haven't researched that one.  Do you have time to give us a few studies and the safety profile?
My friend told me it was good, I did as you did, asked for studies, he hasnt provided them yet, When I get them, I will share. I posted cause I thought you guys might have something to add.
Im on it
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 24, 2012, 09:41:17 am
I appreciate it.  I just took a quick peak and I didn't see a lot of studies on it, but maybe I'm missing the obvious.   

Let us know what you find it...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 24, 2012, 12:20:03 pm
Also, pm me and I'll let you know what Consumer Lab says.  I'm not supposed to put that out for the public, but they have some interesting commentary and brands...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 25, 2012, 05:36:05 am
I appreciate it.  I just took a quick peak and I didn't see a lot of studies on it, but maybe I'm missing the obvious.   

Let us know what you find it...
this is what my friend gave me


 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21840329
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7515387
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10760294
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 25, 2012, 06:58:58 am
Aren't all these studies on DHEA?  I thought we were talking 7-DHEA-Keto here?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 25, 2012, 07:58:46 am
Aren't all these studies on DHEA?  I thought we were talking 7-DHEA-Keto here?


are you reading my emails?
 8)

thats EXACTLY what I told my friend who sent me the studies and told me 7-dhea-keto was good and he had evidence to back that up,
I'll let you know what he says
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 25, 2012, 09:45:29 am
Some guys actually have fun doing chem experiments on their body - I've noticed that over the years...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 25, 2012, 10:48:43 am
Some guys actually have fun doing chem experiments on their body - I've noticed that over the years...
thats what Ive done with the 2,4 dinitrophenol
35lbs in  24 days isnt anything to sneeze at
plus with the ghw,  tribulis, citruiline, maca, bromocriptine fenugreek, ornish diet, cup of coffee, eggwhites out the ass, omega-3s, DIM, I am feeling on top the world

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 25, 2012, 11:14:27 am
Wow!  Who can argue with success, eh?

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 25, 2012, 03:28:34 pm
Aren't all these studies on DHEA?  I thought we were talking 7-DHEA-Keto here?
his response
  the idea isn't taking supraphysiological doses of DHEA in an effort to increase T etc. It's just to supplement the declining levels that occur with aging as it's truly a "master" hormone and does other positive stuff like impact IGF-1 etc.  I notice a slight difference when i stop/start taking it. But I only take 12.5 mg every other day - so not much at all.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 25, 2012, 04:55:20 pm
Peak
I got some Fenugreek Seed 610 mg 90 Caps by Swanson Premium these arent the same as what you recommend the
Testofen Fenugreek Extract 300 mg 60 Caps
It costs like $3, Id hate to throw out the bottle, any use on T?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 25, 2012, 10:03:07 pm
I'm concerned about prolactin with fenugreek.  But some guys say they feel better on it.

(Btw, don't forget to talk to your physician with all of these.  )
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 26, 2012, 05:23:53 am
I'm concerned about prolactin with fenugreek.  But some guys say they feel better on it.

(Btw, don't forget to talk to your physician with all of these.  )
I listed fenugreek among the things I was on when I felt so good

thats what Ive done with the 2,4 dinitrophenol
35lbs in  24 days isnt anything to sneeze at
plus with the ghw,  tribulis, citruiline, maca, bromocriptine fenugreek, ornish diet, cup of coffee, eggwhites out the ass, omega-3s, DIM, I am feeling on top the world

but hyperprolactinemia,?  well, thanks one of the uses of bromocriptine, as well  as preventing a drop in leptin from slowing down my metabolism
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 26, 2012, 10:39:38 am
Yeah, fenugreek can be angel or devil...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 29, 2012, 10:58:01 am
Peak
I got a membership to CL and I read what you write online


I need the best, defined as has what it says it has in the bottle, of these products:
1 alpha lipoic acid spring valley
2 Green Tea-mega-T
3. Grape seed complex-spring valley
4.  Horny Goat weed-source naturals
5  Tribulus-NOW
6. calcium/magnessiu/zince-Nature made
7 Maca-NOW
8 ashwagandha-NOW
9 vitamin D-NOW

I try to stick to what you recommend, does that list look safe to you?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 29, 2012, 01:52:57 pm
You really need to run it by the doc's office imo, esp. with your past.  But, yes, those are very safe supplements in the short term. 

Keep in mind, though, that dosage really matters with calcium and zinc:  too much can be unhealthful.

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 29, 2012, 02:10:46 pm
You really need to run it by the doc's office imo, esp. with your past.  But, yes, those are very safe supplements in the short term. 

Keep in mind, though, that dosage really matters with calcium and zinc:  too much can be unhealthful.
I got these names/uses from what you have shown us as information
I was more concerned about who makes it/purity, etc

I dont take much CA/zinc at all, 1 or 2 tabs.day, each cap has 33% rda, so at max CA 666mg zinc 10mg

I think I need to see a new doc, remember in January 2012
I had "low" testosterone back in January, 2012
 
329
normal is 240-950

Free test is 12(normal)
normal is 9-30
as you said
"In fact 300 and 350 are ugly testosterone levels for a male. Virtually every email that I get where a guy is struggling is from some guy with total testosterone under 400 ng/dl. "

I am getting a new test done, results by monday
Im 35lbs lighter, so I hope to see some improvment
half the time I wake up with a chubby, so something is good going on.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 29, 2012, 02:34:18 pm
Gotcha.  So are you saying you picked out of the brands that CL recommended where you could?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 29, 2012, 02:44:48 pm
Gotcha.  So are you saying you picked out of the brands that CL recommended where you could?

no, I found CL really hard to use
I didnt have time to properly use it, those are the brands/products you named off the site, for the most part
a few I just used a spring valley product since they produced something else you said was good

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 29, 2012, 05:36:51 pm
Gotcha.  Well, you may want to check with NOW, which is of course everywhere, on their heavy metal and contaminant policy.  This could sometimes be an issue with trib:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Accumulation+of+Cd,+Pb+and+Zn+in+Tribulus+terrestris+L.+grown+on...-a0253057775

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 29, 2012, 05:54:46 pm
Gotcha.  Well, you may want to check with NOW, which is of course everywhere, on their heavy metal and contaminant policy.  This could sometimes be an issue with trib:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Accumulation+of+Cd,+Pb+and+Zn+in+Tribulus+terrestris+L.+grown+on...-a0253057775

thanks
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 01, 2012, 01:58:06 am
I bought some
http://www.amazon.com/Bertolli-Organic-Pasta-Sauce-jars/dp/B001YJ2XVA
Bertolli Organic Pasta Sauce - 3/24 oz. jars

and now I can stop thinking about the BPA in the jars.....crap
the fda won't even ban BPA


I got an email from my school that my blood test results are in, I cant access them online..so I gotta deal with that tomorrow.....
otherwise, I still need to contact NOW about the various supps I have that might contain lead

I called my dentist, who made me a mouth guard because I grind my teeth 2 years ago, and I dont know if it's BPA free plastic or hopefully, acrylic as that's bpa and philates free, (so I read)

oh, I had a craving for cookies tonight, I just had to have a few
I searched for low saturated fat, low sugar, no trans fats
yeah, those are called ice cubes
these seemed to be the least harmful

cranberry-omega-3-flax-seed-cookie

http://voices.yahoo.com/cranberry-omega-3-flax-seed-cookies-product-review-1927906.html
Nutrition facts are listed on the front side label:

80 calories- 1 cookie

Calories from fat-30

Total fat-3 grams

Saturated fat-0.5 grams

Trans fat- o grams

Cholesterol- 0 grams

Sugars-5 grams
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 01, 2012, 06:58:29 am
Don't stress too much!

First of all, with fructose you just want to keep it less than 25 grams per day, maybe 50 grams at the most.  One cookie isn't going to cause problems.  The problem is that most people can't have just one cookie.  I always admired the Dutch people I knew because they would serve one truffle/bon bon.  When they left the room, I was looking around for the box and wanted to mow through the whole thing like the typical American.

And, ideally, you want to get your fructose from fruit, of course, because they're packed with antioxidants, vitamins/minerals and many other great phytochemicals.

If it's in a glass jar, there's no BPA that I know of.  The only thing to watch is the salt content.  But tomato sauce is protective of the prostate as you probably know...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 02, 2012, 05:50:35 am
Don't stress too much!

First of all, with fructose you just want to keep it less than 25 grams per day, maybe 50 grams at the most.  One cookie isn't going to cause problems.  The problem is that most people can't have just one cookie.  I always admired the Dutch people I knew because they would serve one truffle/bon bon.  When they left the room, I was looking around for the box and wanted to mow through the whole thing like the typical American.

And, ideally, you want to get your fructose from fruit, of course, because they're packed with antioxidants, vitamins/minerals and many other great phytochemicals.

If it's in a glass jar, there's no BPA that I know of.  The only thing to watch is the salt content.  But tomato sauce is protective of the prostate as you probably know...

Yes they are glass jars of tomato paste. Usually I get pasta sauce, like Ragu or something, I got tomato paste because of this site
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Diet.aspx
    Lycopene.  The lycopene in tomato sauce, tomato paste and ketchup has been shown in one study to be very protective of your skin from sun damage. [9] Researchers gave participants shown in one study to be very protective of your skin from sun damage. [9] Researchers gave participants the equivalent of 5 tablespoons of tomato paste per day and noticed 33% less damage from UV radiation, which is roughly the equivalent of SPF 1.3.

I also am drinking green tea, sticking my ornish diet, and trying to do what this site says to do, since it is all backed by scienctific studies
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 02, 2012, 06:51:26 am
I got tomato paste because of this site http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Diet.aspx
 

Never heard of it. 

No, thx for the vote of confidence.  Of course, I always urge everyone to experiment and find out what works for them:  the studies deal with averages and so it's possible for any one of us to be special.  (Maybe real special in some cases.)

Yes, tomatoes and tomato products are looking good on many fronts.

As I've mentioned, I'm cautious about green tea due to the telomere effect.  I personally avoid it, but I admit it has many great properties and, hey, the Japanese love it, eh?

Comment on the Low Fat: 

I eat a close to Low Fat Diet and feel great on it.  Furthermore, I think that is what the great majority of human history has grown up on and that is what our bodies are used to.  Most meat lovers don't realize that wild game is low fat or darn close and there wasn't any cheese/butter/milk during most of our history! 

So basically you're in good company following how we have eaten for most of our existence.  But see how you feel on it and get your T readings before and after, etc.  Your T is quite low, so be sure to monitor.

Also, you are young.  I can't remember:  did you have any signs of heart disease, hypertension, endothelial dysfunction?  The reason I'm asking is that even Dr. Ornish points out that if you don't have heart disease,  you really have a "spectrum" of options available to you and you don't have to stick to a rigid Low Fat Diet.  He discusses this on his site here:

http://www.ornishspectrum.com/proven-program/

Again, I wish I'd eaten Low Fat from day one, but if someone has no heart disease, is young and follows, say, a Mediterranean Diet, all of the evidence says they will very likely live a long and healthy life. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 02, 2012, 07:11:56 am
Don't stress too much!

First of all, with fructose you just want to keep it less than 25 grams per day, maybe 50 grams at the most.  One cookie isn't going to cause problems.  The problem is that most people can't have just one cookie.  I always admired the Dutch people I knew because they would serve one truffle/bon bon.  When they left the room, I was looking around for the box and wanted to mow through the whole thing like the typical American.

And, ideally, you want to get your fructose from fruit, of course, because they're packed with antioxidants, vitamins/minerals and many other great phytochemicals.

If it's in a glass jar, there's no BPA that I know of.  The only thing to watch is the salt content.  But tomato sauce is protective of the prostate as you probably know...

I got tomato paste because of this site
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Diet.aspx
   

Never heard of it. 

No, thx for the vote of confidence.  Of course, I always urge everyone to experiment and find out what works for them:  the studies deal with averages and so it's possible for any one of us to be special.  (Maybe real special in some cases.)

Yes, tomatoes and tomato products are looking good on many fronts.

As I've mentioned, I'm cautious about green tea due to the telomere effect.  I personally avoid it, but I admit it has many great properties and, hey, the Japanese love it, eh?
damn it
I am liking the tea, not as much as ice coffee with splenda, but I will get some black tea now
whatever I am doing, might be working
I say might because I dont know how off these blood test results can be, I got the blood draw at about 10am and the last time it was 9am



January 2012 blood test
329
normal is 240-950

Free test is 12(normal)
normal is 9-30



May 2012(after losing 35lbs)


TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS   590        250-1100    ng/dL
FREE TESTOSTERONE   117.6        35.0-155.0    pg/mL
C-REACTIVE PROTEIN   <0.10        <0.80    mg/dL
TSH   1.65        0.40-4.50    mIU/L
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 02, 2012, 08:16:14 am
That's right!  Thx...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 02, 2012, 08:47:05 am
I would eat more fruit and broccoli, even kale if I wouldnt have to
heat it up
eat it
chew it
taste it

so if I had a blender, like Magic Bullet Blender, which could make it into a shake, I'd eat more.
but do any of these things work?
the magic bullet or anything that does that stuff they show on informericals, do any of them work?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 02, 2012, 10:20:27 am
would you expound on this:

"Baby Aspirin.  A recent Lancet publication found a lowering in risk for various oesophageal, pancreatic, brain, stomach, colorectal, prostate and lung cancers. [30] Not bad for one little pill, eh?  CAUTION:  Aspirin is an NSAID and, as such, increases the risk of bleeding and/or ulcers. [31] Some NSAIDs have the side effect of decreasing erectile strength."

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cancer_Protection.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on May 02, 2012, 10:30:34 am
damn...nice job!! keep it up


Don't stress too much!

First of all, with fructose you just want to keep it less than 25 grams per day, maybe 50 grams at the most.  One cookie isn't going to cause problems.  The problem is that most people can't have just one cookie.  I always admired the Dutch people I knew because they would serve one truffle/bon bon.  When they left the room, I was looking around for the box and wanted to mow through the whole thing like the typical American.

And, ideally, you want to get your fructose from fruit, of course, because they're packed with antioxidants, vitamins/minerals and many other great phytochemicals.

If it's in a glass jar, there's no BPA that I know of.  The only thing to watch is the salt content.  But tomato sauce is protective of the prostate as you probably know...

I got tomato paste because of this site
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Diet.aspx
   

Never heard of it. 

No, thx for the vote of confidence.  Of course, I always urge everyone to experiment and find out what works for them:  the studies deal with averages and so it's possible for any one of us to be special.  (Maybe real special in some cases.)

Yes, tomatoes and tomato products are looking good on many fronts.

As I've mentioned, I'm cautious about green tea due to the telomere effect.  I personally avoid it, but I admit it has many great properties and, hey, the Japanese love it, eh?
damn it
I am liking the tea, not as much as ice coffee with splenda, but I will get some black tea now
whatever I am doing, might be working
I say might because I dont know how off these blood test results can be, I got the blood draw at about 10am and the last time it was 9am



January 2012 blood test
329
normal is 240-950

Free test is 12(normal)
normal is 9-30



May 2012(after losing 35lbs)


TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS   590        250-1100    ng/dL
FREE TESTOSTERONE   117.6        35.0-155.0    pg/mL
C-REACTIVE PROTEIN   <0.10        <0.80    mg/dL
TSH   1.65        0.40-4.50    mIU/L
Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on May 02, 2012, 10:32:33 am
by the way, for tea....Go with Yerba Mate. I actually love the earthy taste. And it blows green tea out of the water (never mind black tea) for health benefits.

that said i still have my green tea/ginseng tea blend from time to time.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 02, 2012, 10:46:51 am
would you expound on this:

"Baby Aspirin.  A recent Lancet publication found a lowering in risk for various oesophageal, pancreatic, brain, stomach, colorectal, prostate and lung cancers. [30] Not bad for one little pill, eh?  CAUTION:  Aspirin is an NSAID and, as such, increases the risk of bleeding and/or ulcers. [31] Some NSAIDs have the side effect of decreasing erectile strength."

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cancer_Protection.aspx
Even a baby aspirin can increase your GI risk.  Why risk it when you can live superhealthy by using more natural, safe means?  Imo the whole aspirin thing just ties into the desire to solve health problems with a pill.

Check these out:

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/1499936/reload=0;jsessionid=P2vZBMmGyQts6SfSKShL.26

http://www.bmj.com/content/310/6983/827.abstract
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 02, 2012, 11:05:42 am
would you expound on this:

"Baby Aspirin.  A recent Lancet publication found a lowering in risk for various oesophageal, pancreatic, brain, stomach, colorectal, prostate and lung cancers. [30] Not bad for one little pill, eh?  CAUTION:  Aspirin is an NSAID and, as such, increases the risk of bleeding and/or ulcers. [31] Some NSAIDs have the side effect of decreasing erectile strength."

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cancer_Protection.aspx
Even a baby aspirin can increase your GI risk.  Why risk it when you can live superhealthy by using more natural, safe means?  Imo the whole aspirin thing just ties into the desire to solve health problems with a pill.

Check these out:

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/1499936/reload=0;jsessionid=P2vZBMmGyQts6SfSKShL.26

http://www.bmj.com/content/310/6983/827.abstract

I dont take ibuprofen for aches/pains, I dont like taking anything, I assume the body knows what it's doing.
I always take baby aspirin before I go to sleep at night, you are saying this could hurt my erectile strength?

I agree with people wanting a pill to cure all, I mostly just want a  kick-ass blender!  er, like Magic Bullet Blender?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 02, 2012, 01:07:12 pm
would you expound on this:

"Baby Aspirin.  A recent Lancet publication found a lowering in risk for various oesophageal, pancreatic, brain, stomach, colorectal, prostate and lung cancers. [30] Not bad for one little pill, eh?  CAUTION:  Aspirin is an NSAID and, as such, increases the risk of bleeding and/or ulcers. [31] Some NSAIDs have the side effect of decreasing erectile strength."

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cancer_Protection.aspx
Even a baby aspirin can increase your GI risk.  Why risk it when you can live superhealthy by using more natural, safe means?  Imo the whole aspirin thing just ties into the desire to solve health problems with a pill.

Check these out:

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/1499936/reload=0;jsessionid=P2vZBMmGyQts6SfSKShL.26

http://www.bmj.com/content/310/6983/827.abstract

I dont take ibuprofen for aches/pains, I dont like taking anything, I assume the body knows what it's doing.
I always take baby aspirin before I go to sleep at night, you are saying this could hurt my erectile strength?

I agree with people wanting a pill to cure all, I mostly just want a  kick-ass blender!  er, like Magic Bullet Blender?

Yes, NSAIDs can affect sexual function.  Not in everyone, of course...

But mostly they can damage your GI and make your life incredibly miserable.

Sorry, I've got a big ol' blender that will I could use to turn an oak stump into wood chips if I wanted...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 02, 2012, 02:07:00 pm
Gotcha.  Well, you may want to check with NOW, which is of course everywhere, on their heavy metal and contaminant policy.  This could sometimes be an issue with trib:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Accumulation+of+Cd,+Pb+and+Zn+in+Tribulus+terrestris+L.+grown+on...-a0253057775

I checked with NOW and this is the email they sent me:

Dear watchntv;

We carefully screen material for heavy metals such as mercury, lead, cadmium, and of course arsenic. Each individual heavy metal such as Lead, mercury, cadmium, and arsenic, are required to meet our strict specifications.
 
We are one of the few Supplement companies in the country with onsite heavy metal testing. See here for more info:
 
http://www.nowfoods.com/Quality/QualityNotes/M102794.htm?cat=NOW%20News
 
<2000ppb Lead; <2000ppb Arsenic <820ppb Cadmium; <400ppb Mercury
 
While we've had no issues with our suppliers or Tribulus, an example is Rice syrup that has had arsenic reported in the media as a concern but fortunately our material typically tests at undetectable levels of arsenic down to the parts per trillion. Something we can confirm inhouse.

And of course see our Quality Site for more info on our millions of dollars in lab facilities:
http://www.nowfoods.com/Quality/index.htm

 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 02, 2012, 03:20:18 pm
Hard to ask for much more imo.  Thx for the info...

And I've been kind of worried about the Rice Protein I've been consuming.  I need to write to the mfg like you did.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 02, 2012, 04:58:24 pm
Hard to ask for much more imo.  Thx for the info...

And I've been kind of worried about the Rice Protein I've been consuming.  I need to write to the mfg like you did.

I totally misread what you wrote and my jaw dropped...but you said mfg.....so I laughed to myself at what I thought you had written
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 03, 2012, 06:50:04 am
Nah, I only talk like that in heavy traffic...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 05, 2012, 07:30:07 am
A few questions
B Vitamins.  Megadosing on B vitamins was once quite the health fad.  Now it is known to whack memory and neurons.
there was no citation for this, so "5-hour energy" makes people into drooling idiots?

CoQ10. A 2009 study discovered that supplementing mice to an equivalent human doses of 1700 mg/day led to hearing and memory loss. [4]  1700 mg is a very high daily dose but these high levels have been explored for various conditions including ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). [5] 

I take CoZ10 at 100mg/day, who is taking 1700mg a day? is CoQ10 found in foods that I might be eating and therefor getting a lot more than I realized?
I take it to inhibit/reduce tnf levels
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Supplements_And_Vitamins.aspx

I question minor stuff like this just because I dont understand,
I have had good results with doing what your site recommends I do, I will post a thread about my results later.
 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 05, 2012, 10:02:19 pm
A few questions
B Vitamins.  Megadosing on B vitamins was once quite the health fad.  Now it is known to whack memory and neurons.
there was no citation for this, so "5-hour energy" makes people into drooling idiots?

CoQ10. A 2009 study discovered that supplementing mice to an equivalent human doses of 1700 mg/day led to hearing and memory loss. [4]  1700 mg is a very high daily dose but these high levels have been explored for various conditions including ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). [5] 

I take CoZ10 at 100mg/day, who is taking 1700mg a day? is CoQ10 found in foods that I might be eating and therefor getting a lot more than I realized?
I take it to inhibit/reduce tnf levels
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Supplements_And_Vitamins.aspx

I question minor stuff like this just because I dont understand,
I have had good results with doing what your site recommends I do, I will post a thread about my results later.

This has a nice summary of some research on pyroxidine (Vitamin B6):

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminB6/

And, yes, that would be a huge dose of CoQ10.  Interestingly enough, a young girl was apparently cured by taking megadoses, but she was deficient:

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=783281
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 07, 2012, 09:13:46 am
A few questions
B Vitamins.  Megadosing on B vitamins was once quite the health fad.  Now it is known to whack memory and neurons.
there was no citation for this, so "5-hour energy" makes people into drooling idiots?

CoQ10. A 2009 study discovered that supplementing mice to an equivalent human doses of 1700 mg/day led to hearing and memory loss. [4]  1700 mg is a very high daily dose but these high levels have been explored for various conditions including ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). [5] 

I take CoZ10 at 100mg/day, who is taking 1700mg a day? is CoQ10 found in foods that I might be eating and therefor getting a lot more than I realized?
I take it to inhibit/reduce tnf levels
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Supplements_And_Vitamins.aspx

I question minor stuff like this just because I dont understand,
I have had good results with doing what your site recommends I do, I will post a thread about my results later.

This has a nice summary of some research on pyroxidine (Vitamin B6):

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminB6/

And, yes, that would be a huge dose of CoQ10.  Interestingly enough, a young girl was apparently cured by taking megadoses, but she was deficient:

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=783281

now Im kicking myself
Over the weekend, I went to my sisters law school graduation and my family at The Cheesecake Factory
I had coffee, veggie burger, salad, and strawberries and dipping sauces(whip cream and hot fudge), so about 10 strawberries, not much sugary goodness.
my family, who all hadnt seen me in a month, all commented  on my fat-loss/skinny face, all had very hedonistic meals.
Worse,, my brother in law, the guy who has high cholesterol, even though he's not fat, no pot belly,etc. ate just an awful meal, french fries and a Macaroni and Cheese Burger
a burger with a side of mac/cheee on it
then he and my sister shared a reese cheesecake for dessert

I didnt even have bread!
I had the
SkinnyLicious™ Veggie Burger

A Delicious “Burger” Made with Brown Rice, Farro, Black Beans, Fresh Beets & Onion. Served on a Toasted Bun with Lettuce, Tomato, Red Onion, Pickles & Mayo. Served with a Green Salad
http://www.thecheesecakefactory.com/menu/skinnylicious/skinny_veggie_burger
PER SERVING (entire order): 530 calories, 3g saturated fat, 1,288mg sodium, 85g carbs(thats with Mayo, I had no mayo, add in a pinapple)
but I thought I did well picking that burger, but I think not, after seeing
(Im not sure if that burger is a "prepared" food item
Excitotoxins.  Fast food is loaded with excitotoxins, particularly glutamates.  Glutamates head straight for your hypothalamus and wreak havoc therein.  As your hypothalamus is slowly damaged, the thyroid and gonads are often affected as well.  Excitotoxins are particularly common in anything "prepared", such as Veggie Burgers, nuggets, breadings, etc.
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Fast_Food_Testosterone_Erectile.aspx

A person issue is going on  in my life as well.
I am bothered by the FDA lying to people about transfats, as in .5g=0
but I am doing this contest to lose weight(not fat), even though I am eating/lifting to retain muscle,...the problem  I have is the contest is 50miles away from me(round trip) and the winner will get $~1k-$2k.  I have been winning. the rules say, .you can miss the weekly meetings, but have to pay $5fine
$5<<<driving 50miles
so I've missed 2 meetings
and now I'm told if I dont go, I''ll kicked out....THOSE ARENT THE RULES
I was told the reason was because by not going I am, "being unfair to those who go."
Im greatly confused by this; I'm following the rules.  if the rules are bad, CHANGE THE RULES

People dont make a lot of sense to me
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 07, 2012, 10:54:40 am
You gave me a good laugh!  SkinnyLicious, eh? They must have almost fallen out of their chairs when you ordered coffee, veggie burger, salad, and strawberries.  I think you forgot the basic dietary rules for eating out in American: you haven't really eaten out unless you've consumed over 1000 calories, 80 grams of fat, 2 grams of salt and 40 grams of fructose.  You only got about 2% of your RDA by those rules...

Also, I didn't mean to imply that all veggie burgers have excitotoxins in them.  Maybe they went easy on your hypothalamus - who knows?

No, the contest doesn't make any sense, but of course they are Zeus in their own realm and have decided to send a little lightning on your head...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 07, 2012, 11:40:47 am
You gave me a good laugh!  SkinnyLicious, eh? They must have almost fallen out of their chairs when you ordered coffee, veggie burger, salad, and strawberries.  I think you forgot the basic dietary rules for eating out in American: you haven't really eaten out unless you've consumed over 1000 calories, 80 grams of fat, 2 grams of salt and 40 grams of fructose.  You only got about 2% of your RDA by those rules...

Also, I didn't mean to imply that all veggie burgers have excitotoxins in them.  Maybe they went easy on your hypothalamus - who knows?
Also, I didn't mean to imply that all veggie burgers have excitotoxins in them.  Maybe they went easy on your hypothalamus - who knows?

I can't find the nutrition of the mac and cheese burger,but if you add a side of mac/cheese to a burger its about :
burger 1399  26 saturated
fries ,,574 10
side mac/cheese   1309 51
 
so you are about right the total calories of the american diet!
 howd you know?!!

I know you are right about the unknown, a chain like Red Robin, uses veggie burgers you can buy at the store Im not sure about cheesecake factory

No, the contest doesn't make any sense, but of course they are Zeus in their own realm and have decided to send a little lightning on your head...

exactly, they have a taste of power and they are all idiots, they made rules, so that means they also have to follow them
my sister is now a lawyer, my parents are both lawyers, which means all my life I've been taught/shown to follow contracts/rules.

Before I first joined, I read the rules and thats what I follow
so it gripes me like crazy when the contest coordinator tells me")(verbatim)

"Unfortunately I cannot allow you to remain in the challenge if you are not going to attend the classes and weigh in.  You see, it is not fair to the other participants who are weighing in on a weekly basis and getting their scans done.  We have in fact fielded several inquiries about what you are up to and frankly taking a lot of heat because you have not been weighing in.

I definitely understand the inconvenience of the long travel and the associated costs but you were definitely aware of where the challenge was prior to beginning it.  You will be removed from the leader board this week, pending your ability to get your scan in that is now overdue and start attending the remaining classes."


I was also aware of the rules, which say

6.   If the participant is a “no-show” for a weekly meeting they pay $5.00 for the class missed.  Everyone gets one excused absence – not having to pay the $5.00.


so I miss a class, no big deal, it costs me $5, but thats it. nothing about "fairness" or being kicked out cause I miss too many classes.


 nothing about any scans cept
7.   We reserve the right to disqualify any person(s) who we find to be engaging in unsafe methods for drastic weight loss or causing negative impact to the success of the Challenge.  This may in part be determined by scan results during the competition.
a scan is a biometric impedence test, so hydration levels affect the results greatly, which is important why for a  weight loss challenge?
I asked jerry a ton of questions, which he never really answered for me to any quality, but he did tell me
Jerry
I wont be home til the 30th
I still am not understanding how the scan will impact winning or not?
is this the weigh in?
-watchntv


Hi watchntv

Has nothing to do with the weigh ins or winning - has to do with you knowing your numbers so you can know how to target your eating and know where you stand now.

Nothing complicated about it it - please do not overthink it. 
Best,
Jerry


so Im not making up the rules, they are, I just ask that they follow them
why is that so hard?

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 07, 2012, 11:45:25 am

why is that so hard?

Just put the next letter on one of your parent's letterhead and I"ll bet everything gets a lot easier...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 07, 2012, 12:08:43 pm

why is that so hard?

Just put the next letter on one of your parent's letterhead and I"ll bet everything gets a lot easier...
LOL
thats what I asked my parents about, if I get kicked out of the WLC(weight loss challenge) can I sue for damages; damages being the prize I'd win
or just the $29 I paid to enter this contest,

my parents told me to go do better things with my time than waste my time on a suit

this dude hasnt responded to my, "Im just following the rules you gave me, why are you making new rules to bother me?"
-type email I sent to him
so Im gonna go early and talk to him about this

hes one of those naturally skinny dudes(likely leptin senstive) and has as much muscle on his 5'11",  140lbs frame as I have on in my leg leg.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 07, 2012, 01:47:08 pm
I actually have two memberships.  One of the gym's has the most pathetic personal trainers I have ever seen.  If they could curl a 45 lb bar twice, I'd be shocked.  But, hey, maybe they're exercise physiology savants - I don't know...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 18, 2012, 08:31:11 am
I'm getting invisalign "braces".  they a  bpa free acrylic plastic......since it's made from  acrylic, I thought it was BPA free,  I dont want to  buy organic food ,then have BPA/philates in my mouth 22 hours a day; anyone know anything different?


http://www.invisalign.com/How-Invisalign-Works/Pages/teeth-straightening-process.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 18, 2012, 09:43:00 am
Never thought of that issue.  Supposedly, the harder plastics are more safe, since they use phthalate esters to soften the material:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18990931

This stuff is all over the place.  There is nowhere to hide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticizer
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 26, 2012, 01:01:37 pm
I want a vegan cookbook
one that has the ingredients, how to combine them(cook them) and how many calories are in the dish I make

any suggestions?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 26, 2012, 01:38:43 pm
organic vs non-organic?
Im not clear on what difference it makes to go organic; is there any science the says people who go organic live longer?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 27, 2012, 09:21:23 am
I want a vegan cookbook
one that has the ingredients, how to combine them(cook them) and how many calories are in the dish I make

any suggestions?

Veggieboards will likely give you a ton of ideas if you post there.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 27, 2012, 01:03:00 pm
I want a vegan cookbook
one that has the ingredients, how to combine them(cook them) and how many calories are in the dish I make

any suggestions?

Veggieboards will likely give you a ton of ideas if you post there.
I found a lot of recipies via online vegan sites, I just need someone to make them

what about BPA in straws?  I like coffee, drinking it straight will stain your teeth,, so use a straw but straws are plastic and have BPA  get a glass straw?
https://simplystraws.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6

Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on May 28, 2012, 05:51:53 am
organic vs non-organic?
Im not clear on what difference it makes to go organic; is there any science the says people who go organic live longer?

organic - grown naturally, without pesticides, growth hormones, etc.

Pesticides = known endocrine/hormone disruptors.

That alone is worth it to go organic, if you can afford it. that's the sad part - to eat how nature intended costs more, frequently out of the realm for many people.

I eat almost 100% organic.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 28, 2012, 08:20:08 am
organic vs non-organic?
Im not clear on what difference it makes to go organic; is there any science the says people who go organic live longer?

organic - grown naturally, without pesticides, growth hormones, etc.

Pesticides = known endocrine/hormone disruptors.

That alone is worth it to go organic, if you can afford it. that's the sad part - to eat how nature intended costs more, frequently out of the realm for many people.

I eat almost 100% organic.
my friend asked for science to back up that claim of why its worth to go organic
have any? 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on May 28, 2012, 02:20:24 pm
i guess my point would only be that i don't really need science to tell me that modern pesticides are bad for you/potential hormone disruptors. That seems to be sort of given.

Not sure what studies say, i go on more of a feel, and i'd rather have something grown/reared on smaller local farms, in a sustainable way, and not with mass produced insecticides/pesticide chemicals.

You know - before the Monsanto's of the world took over so much of our food supply -  the mass multinational agri-corporation that exploits all the small farms, goes nuts with bovine growth hormone, goes nuts with pesticides, etc etc.







Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 28, 2012, 03:56:38 pm
i guess my point would only be that i don't really need science to tell me that modern pesticides are bad for you/potential hormone disruptors. That seems to be sort of given.

Not sure what studies say, i go on more of a feel, and i'd rather have something grown/reared on smaller local farms, in a sustainable way, and not with mass produced insecticides/pesticide chemicals.

You know - before the Monsanto's of the world took over so much of our food supply -  the mass multinational agri-corporation that exploits all the small farms, goes nuts with bovine growth hormone, goes nuts with pesticides, etc etc.
Im  not saying you were wrong, I just wanted evidence to share with others, which is better than saying, 'its a feeling I have"
drugs are why my mom is still alive and why I'm still alive; so grouping them all together isnt best as you are making a lot of  assumptions


but blame the people for buying the  poisonous food, no one does the right thing cause it feels good.
which is why they stilll sell cigarettes, etc
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 28, 2012, 06:28:17 pm
Monster subject but there's some good starter information in these threads:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Pesticides_Brain_Parkinsons.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Pesticides.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hdr_Pesticides_Toxins.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Lower_Chemicals.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on May 28, 2012, 07:34:25 pm
gotcha, ok...Looks like Peak has some studies there.

didn't really get this:

"drugs are why my mom is still alive and why I'm still alive; so grouping them all together isnt best as you are making a lot of  assumptions."

Who said anything about drugs? i was talking about pesticides! and animal growth hormones...

of course drugs can be/are often good, keep people alive, healthy, etc.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 29, 2012, 03:32:27 am
Monster subject but there's some good starter information in these threads:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Pesticides_Brain_Parkinsons.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Pesticides.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hdr_Pesticides_Toxins.aspx
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Lower_Chemicals.aspx
thanks for the Links
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 29, 2012, 06:21:07 am
Ibut blame the people for buying the  poisonous food, no one does the right thing cause it feels good.
which is why they stilll sell cigarettes, etc
Well, I agree to a point, but it's more complicated than that:  pesticides and genetic engineering have the noble goals of increasing yields and protecting crops. Of course, what good does it do to have plate full of food that will hammer your hormones, attack your brain cells and tripwire your autoimmune system.  That's FrankenLogic!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 29, 2012, 06:59:06 am
Ibut blame the people for buying the  poisonous food, no one does the right thing cause it feels good.
which is why they stilll sell cigarettes, etc
Well, I agree to a point, but it's more complicated than that:  pesticides and genetic engineering have the noble goals of increasing yields and protecting crops. Of course, what good does it do to have plate full of food that will hammer your hormones, attack your brain cells and tripwire your autoimmune system.  That's FrankenLogic!
I dont know what FrankenLogic is

you are saying, what exactly?  that corporations shouldnt make a profit as high as they can? they do this  by doing what it takes to increasing yields and protecting crops, which does feed the typical family, which is in debt and overweight

whats so complicated? look at big tabacco,  they sell a product that destroys health and 2nd and 3rd degree healths, yet people keep buying it. Sure nicotine is adrug, but we all  agreed so is food

so when I make threads trying to figure out what i can eat, it's not beause I am too lazy to go to a list of what I need to avoid, (remember I'm making that list)http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=263.msg2360#msg2360
its because I am know the rules of the game, that no one is looking out for me, but me, and I am trying to learn what to avoid so I dont propagate this horrid/poisonous food that has a long term affect of destroying the health I am working to get back

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 29, 2012, 07:27:34 am

I dont know what FrankenLogic is

you are saying, what exactly?  that corporations shouldnt make a profit as high as they can?

I wasn't really trying to get political.  I just want to inform men so hopefully they can avoid some of the pitfalls - and that's a great word for it - of modern life.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 29, 2012, 07:40:58 am

I dont know what FrankenLogic is

you are saying, what exactly?  that corporations shouldnt make a profit as high as they can?

I wasn't really trying to get political.  I just want to inform men so hopefully they can avoid some of the pitfalls - and that's a great word for it - of modern life.
I dont mean to sound so obtuse, what political?  I was trying to understand a word you used to comment on a what's going on.

I am trying to avoid bad things in foods etc and seem to get non-answers all the time.  like this above
who is talking about politics?
you didnt at all address anything I wrote, but went off on a tangent about some abstract thoughts about the world(not to be political  or religious?)
is this my fault? am I asking non-direct questions that dont have specific answers?
I feel Im very concrete,l I know why people do things, Im learning the rules and Im just looking for concrete ways to protect my health

you might find these articles about allowing people to do things interesting
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/training/because-we-let-them-part-1.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 29, 2012, 07:48:26 am
Can you ask the q again?  Not sure what the question is. 

And I've told you this before:  I'm not trying to give you non-answers.  So please just restate your question if I don't answer it and ask it in a more concise fashion.  You've got to be patient and merciful.  As I've stated repeatedly, this is a side hobby/passion for me and I'm not your personal trainer.  I'm doing 100 things at once and I know I miss things often, but that's just the way it is and there's little I can do about it.  You get what you get and there's no use complaining about it.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 29, 2012, 09:43:57 am
Can you ask the q again?  Not sure what the question is. 

And I've told you this before:  I'm not trying to give you non-answers.  So please just restate your question if I don't answer it and ask it in a more concise fashion.  You've got to be patient and merciful.  As I've stated repeatedly, this is a side hobby/passion for me and I'm not your personal trainer.  I'm doing 100 things at once and I know I miss things often, but that's just the way it is and there's little I can do about it.  You get what you get and there's no use complaining about it.
ha!
I cant figure out what the question was
Im gonna read those links soon and figure out some stuff
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 29, 2012, 09:47:07 am
By the way, my kids tell me I'm "random" all the time.  So I know that's an issue for me - thoughts all over the place.  Blessing and curse I suppose...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 29, 2012, 09:53:39 am
By the way, my kids tell me I'm "random" all the time.  So I know that's an issue for me - thoughts all over the place.  Blessing and curse I suppose...
Im been called random as much as I've been called, unstable...... once the rules are learned of how someone is, either by themselves or those who interact with him, good things can come out of it

just like knowing how to eat without hurting yourself.... so how you are isnt anything I can't manage, it just takes awareness of you work
 :o
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 29, 2012, 10:05:20 am
Well, one issue on this forum - with all due respect of course - is that someone will post something with six ideas and three questions and a couple of comments.  I'm reading it like a wild man trying not to get fired or, if I'm at home, remain undistracted by the five year old climbing on my chair, etc. So the I respond to one or two of the above ten (or was it 11?) things.  I may have completely missed the primary question, but the important thing is that my five year old didn't fall off of the chair and/or I'm still employed...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 29, 2012, 11:08:18 am
Well, one issue on this forum - with all due respect of course - is that someone will post something with six ideas and three questions and a couple of comments.  I'm reading it like a wild man trying not to get fired or, if I'm at home, remain undistracted by the five year old climbing on my chair, etc. So the I respond to one or two of the above ten (or was it 11?) things.  I may have completely missed the primary question, but the important thing is that my five year old didn't fall off of the chair and/or I'm still employed...
gotcha
so I will bold face any questions, Ive seen you miss details and I know you have a lot going on
2ndly, as long as the child only bounces only ONCE, no harm will happen(no, no studies  to back that up, but it seems true!)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 29, 2012, 11:14:13 am

gotcha
so I will bold face any questions, Ive seen you miss details and I know you have a lot going on
2ndly, as long as the child only bounces only ONCE, no harm will happen(no, no studies  to back that up, but it seems true!)

All right - that's good to know.  I'll pass that one onto my wife and my guess is that she'll test it out on me first.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on May 29, 2012, 11:30:13 am

gotcha
so I will bold face any questions, Ive seen you miss details and I know you have a lot going on
2ndly, as long as the child only bounces only ONCE, no harm will happen(no, no studies  to back that up, but it seems true!)

All right - that's good to know.  I'll pass that one onto my wife and my guess is that she'll test it out on me first.
good she tests these things out..
worse thing that will happen, is you'll end up like me ;D
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on May 29, 2012, 11:57:52 am

worse thing that will happen, is you'll end up like me ;D
Might knock some sense into me, eh?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 04, 2012, 03:10:01 pm

I found (finally) low fat chicken fingers with no trans or saturated fats and no hormones, etc(posted here, http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=263.new#new)


I'm down 54lbs since april 2nd, which means I'm well on the way to winning the contest Im in for weight loss(I've kept the muscle via eggwhites, epedrine(http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000002.htm), and weight lifting...Im nearly under 200lbs, I will be when the contest ends 11th, and I feel so good about life, more energy, focus better
I can't tell if its the low carb diet Im on or the fact Im doing what I told  myself I'd do,(lose fat, win this contest) or just eating food that I would never ever gorge on.
Hmmm, likely a combo, but I have 3 clones of myself, so I'll figure it out...I need to throw them in the wood chipper sooner or later.)(tax reasons)

Low-carb diets, fasting and euphoria: Is there a link between ketosis and gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB)?
Brown AJ.
Source

School of Biotechnology and Biomolecular Sciences, The University of New South Wales, Sydney 2052, Australia.
Abstract

Anecdotal evidence links the initial phase of fasting or a low-carbohydrate diet with feelings of well-being and mild euphoria. These feelings have often been attributed to ketosis, the production of ketone bodies which can replace glucose as an energy source for the brain. One of these ketone bodies, beta-hydroxybutyrate (BHB), is an isomer of the notorious drug of abuse, GHB (gamma-hydroxybutyrate). GHB is also of interest in relation to its potential as a treatment for alcohol and opiate dependence and narcolepsy-associated cataplexy. Here I hypothesize that, the mild euphoria often noted with fasting or low-carbohydrate diets may be due to shared actions of BHB and GHB on the brain. Specifically, I propose that BHB, like GHB, induces mild euphoria by being a weak partial agonist for GABA(B) receptors. I outline several approaches that would test the hypothesis, including receptor binding studies in cultured cells, perception studies in trained rodents, and psychometric testing and functional magnetic resonance imaging in humans. These and other studies investigating whether BHB and GHB share common effects on brain chemistry and mood are timely and warranted, especially when considering their structural similarities and the popularity of ketogenic diets and GHB as a drug of abus
 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 04, 2012, 05:02:14 pm
Hey congrats on the 54 pounds and everything else!  Very impressive. 

I know someone who has done low carb diets many times - gonna ask 'em if they ever got a Ketone High.  That's a new one!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 04, 2012, 05:17:59 pm
its not so much a high from a stimulant, its just a sense of well-being, euphoria, I constantly tell people around me,"just be cool"
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 05, 2012, 09:48:20 am
Well, that's just downright remarkable.  When I am cutting back on calories at all, I am the polar opposite:  I just want to hurt someone or something.  Thank goodness I'm a Skinny Bastard and don't have to worry about it too much...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 05, 2012, 10:48:49 am
Well, that's just downright remarkable.  When I am cutting back on calories at all, I am the polar opposite:  I just want to hurt someone or something.  Thank goodness I'm a Skinny Bastard and don't have to worry about it too much...
just be cool
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 05, 2012, 11:03:39 am
I know sleep is needed for peak  testosterone levels,  does anyone know if a 8 hour period of sleep is different than a 2  4-hour periods of sleep?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 05, 2012, 02:32:59 pm
I know sleep experts warn often about men having to get up a time or two to urinate due to prostate issues.  However, I don't have any studies to show why they feel that way.  I'll try to find something a bit later hopefully....
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 05, 2012, 03:15:57 pm
I know sleep experts warn often about men having to get up a time or two to urinate due to prostate issues.  However, I don't have any studies to show why they feel that way.  I'll try to find something a bit later hopefully....
I am not talking about getting up through the night during your 8 hour sleep,
I mean sleeping 4-5 hours, then getting up and later sleeping 4-5 hours, intermittently sleep rather than 8 consecutive hours
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16964783

Today, most people seem to have adapted quite well to the eight-hour sleep, but Ekirch believes many sleeping problems may have roots in the human body's natural preference for segmented sleep as well as the ubiquity of artificial light.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 05, 2012, 04:45:46 pm
Well, here is what I was talking about:

http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(09)00346-7/fulltext

Supposedly, one time up is fine but two times will negatively impact your life.  So your scenario would be okay.

I think some of it has to do with how easily you can go back to sleep.  That's an issue for many, esp. as they age...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on June 06, 2012, 07:03:08 am
interesting...i'm always up for one leak a night - that's guaranteed.

So i feel good that it says i'm all good with that.

Occasionally 2, but not often.

i can always get back to sleep.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 06, 2012, 09:09:21 am
Well, here is what I was talking about:

http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(09)00346-7/fulltext

Supposedly, one time up is fine but two times will negatively impact your life.  So your scenario would be okay.

I think some of it has to do with how easily you can go back to sleep.  That's an issue for many, esp. as they age...
when I get older,I might invest in a condom catheter, so I dont have to be bothered to wake up
thats what I used during my stay in the luxiourous hospital during my coma therapy, I'd never use a bed ban though, I thought using one of those would be shitty ;)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 06, 2012, 09:14:20 am
Man, I'm impressed you can joke about that - seriously!
 
And you were serious about a condom catheter.  Never heard of it...

Of course, I've heard of the older technologies like bedpans.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 06, 2012, 09:35:03 am
Man, I'm impressed you can joke about that - seriously!
 
And you were serious about a condom catheter.  Never heard of it...

Of course, I've heard of the older technologies like bedpans.
Joke about it, I have to, pretty much have to even though I did have the life I worked hard to get(18 and in medical school with the physical abilities of an 18yo) taken from me due to being a passenger in a jeep that rolled
now left with dysartrhia, a spastic gait, double vision(2 myectomies to allow me to wear prism glasses to correct it), no real social life anymore...ever make friends when you're an outlier?

but when I tell people that, because they dont know whats wrong with me, I add in the joke,"and the worst part(which I tell people to get the to laugh) is before the coma, I was 6'4".....and black-(I'm 5'10" and white)

then there was the email I sent the other day

Im at 205lbs
I'm still walking the treadmill in front of my tv to lose weight for this contest.

summary:
Im getting a bad blister, so I fixed it by turning the volume on my tv up

details
I've developed a freakin awesome pre-blister on my right big toe
it's a white gash about 2 inches long, that shows wear and tear as it pulls away from the skin.....it hurts like hell
I cut out some cardboard and make a splint to cover it and wrapped it in tape...but when I use the foot, I sorta limp
and since I will sometimes sorta limp from the left leg, due to the brrrraaaaaiiiinnnn injury, both these limps cancel each other out and I walk fine.....
sadly, when I walk fine, I cannot walk on my treadmill, cause I only walk fine when I go backwards, and then I can't see the TV
so I set up a mirror to look into to watch the tv, but then I couldnt read the captions, since I always have closed captions on.
so I turned up the tv to hear it and not read It.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 06, 2012, 09:58:02 am
Forget all this walkin stuff and go for the comedy circuit.  You're just about ready!

So why do you have a blister?  From the limp?  Or are you like walking 20 miles per day?  If so, you might want to cut that back to about 18?  You've probably hiked to Anchorage and back by now!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 06, 2012, 10:51:02 am
Forget all this walkin stuff and go for the comedy circuit.  You're just about ready!

So why do you have a blister?  From the limp?  Or are you like walking 20 miles per day?  If so, you might want to cut that back to about 18?  You've probably hiked to Anchorage and back by now!
I dont know how fast my $20 treadmill is, I think about 2mph, based on how it compares to the commerical gym treadmills, which hae gauges
I walk 2-3 hours a day
I think the blister is from something in my shoe, 5month old shoes, might need new Nikes...seems to be going away as its no longer growing seems to be healing....
****************I'll be here all week*******************
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 06, 2012, 07:34:34 pm
I spent some time at the vegan store, everything there fits into what I've read as being food fuel for the body...
I purposely had to redirect my thoughts when I began to wonder, what the heck I had been eating before?
Mcdonalds? burger king? god, I LOOVE their HASHBROWS, (which I see have trans fats, or did..their nutrition says they dont)
I found tomato puree and was so happy, Ive looked for this stuff all over the place)

the cereals look great, I see some satured fats scattered through the chips/cereals and then I saw the candy section,mostly mixed nuts and chocolate covered nuts,, filled with yummy looking stuff,sounded natural might have been but tons of saturated fat on the labels

they have a machine to make peanut butter in front of your eyes!
it looked soo freakin good
but the saturated fat makes want to avoid them?  I've heard many sides to the fat content of peanuts,so I know from this site, have them but not too many.....man I've eaten tons of peanut butter my whole life..
Roadhouse is where my family would go for steak and brocoili(Id get that and not fries cos I was healthy!...eating my weight in HCAs and the free peanuts they'd give as all you can eat, as soon as you walk in the door.......I hope my heart forgives me
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 06, 2012, 07:38:29 pm
I hope my heart forgives me
You're young enough to where your arteries should be able to recover very quickly.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 07, 2012, 12:41:31 pm
I dont know what to do to keep my skin nice, I eat fruit, some purnes(1 serv post workout, as they are high in sugar)
what I do to help my skin
-eat apples(2) day(organic)
-eat serving of prunes post workout(high sugar, so I really limit them)
-avoid saturated fats and high sugars
(I'm going to see if I can eat Kale)
-use Vitamin E lotion to help my skin
http://www.ehow.com/how_5269271_use-vitamin-improve-skin-condition.html


Im going to try Evell
-I'm going to get some Haloxyl , Haloxyl - 2.0floz / 60ml, from amazon and see what it does.. Ive got horrid bags under by eyes....
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Eye.aspx

I might try Preparation H. , but why only 2-3x a week?

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 07, 2012, 02:15:20 pm
I assume you saw this, right?

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Diet.aspx

The gyst of it is you want oxidative damage and glycation low from what I can tell and to bath it in all the standard antioxidants. 

And the reason is that it has a local anesthetic in it, hydrocortisone, etc.  That's the street wisdom btw...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 07, 2012, 09:00:33 pm
 sheesh, the dude,  Dr. Russell Blaylock, a retired neurosurgeon, and author of the book Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills (http://amzn.to/908spn), gives a talk on compounds called excitotoxins. Excitotoxins such as monosodium glutamate (MSG), hydrolyzed vegetable protein, and aspartame are being added to almost all processed foods. There is a substantial amount of evidence that excitotoxins play a critical role in the development of several neurological disorders...

he sells a cure for the brain

Peak, what do you think of his cure?


http://www.newportnutritionals.com/whats_in.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 07, 2012, 10:29:38 pm
I was thinking about getting a Coway P-07QL to remove the fluoride  out of my house water, but it can only remove 96% of fluoride , do you think that's still worth doing?
I assume so, but I wanted 99-100%!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 07, 2012, 10:57:11 pm

he sells a cure for the brain

Peak, what do you think of his cure?
http://www.newportnutritionals.com/whats_in.html

He's "The Man" when it comes to excitotoxins, so whatever he does is okay with me.  No, seriously, if I could just send him cash I would - I feel very indebted to him and all his research. 

Anyway, what's interesting about his products is that they really folllow much of the research on the brain (as you would expect).  For example, Vitamin E has done poorly in many non-brain studies but has done well in brain studies.  The B vitamins have done well in the brain studies and, as you go down that list, he has just put everything all together.

The only thing that makes me a little nervous about it all is the megadosing of the B vitamins, especially folic acid.  Some believe that is a cancer risk factor - the supplement form at least.

Is it worth the money?  Can't tell you that of course...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 07, 2012, 10:58:30 pm
I was thinking about getting a Coway P-07QL to remove the fluoride  out of my house water, but it can only remove 96% of fluoride , do you think that's still worth doing?
I assume so, but I wanted 99-100%!

I haven't had time to research this as I'd like, so, if you have time, do a little research and start a thread and let us know your recs.  I, for one, would be interested.  Tap water is nasty stuff!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 07, 2012, 11:23:55 pm
I was thinking about getting a Coway P-07QL to remove the fluoride  out of my house water, but it can only remove 96% of fluoride , do you think that's still worth doing?
I assume so, but I wanted 99-100%!

I haven't had time to research this as I'd like, so, if you have time, do a little research and start a thread and let us know your recs.  I, for one, would be interested.  Tap water is nasty stuff!
I recommend figuring what the heck gets rid of fluoride and you can buy distilled water and it  has all the flouride out of it, 
http://www.durastill.com/myths.html

or you have to buy a REVERSE-OSMOSIS system, which when I look on consumer reports ratings, I see can cost from $1800 to $150

the best is the Kinetico K5 Drinking Water Station(score of 99)
Consumer reports said the best buy is the
Whirlpool Gold WHER25 (Lowe's) for $150, they gave it a score of 80

They recommend
Kenmore Elite 38556 at $300, score of 82
that's what I plan to get...I will find out more details as I get this done

I have been learning most foods will kill me. I am slowly poisoing myself.   now, with the water factor, I dont know where I'd ever go out to eat,..if I did, what would I drink? water? no..soda, no too much sugar, diet soda,, no too many excitotoxins, looks like I need a good job to make enough scratch to live at a vegan store.....Least I doubt anyone there would smoke
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 08, 2012, 07:35:56 am
I appreciate the advice on the water filtration.  Our tap water smells like chlorine when you get within a foot of it - just nasty.  (Assoc w/ GI cancers)

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 08, 2012, 07:39:47 am

I have been learning most foods will kill me. I am slowly poisoing myself. 

Actually you don't know how much truth there is in this.  No matter how careful you eat you increase your oxidative load in certain areas, increase glycation and slowly age yourself.  The book that I always tout by John Robbins on the four healthiest supercultures actually has something in the fine print:  these cultures all eat relatively low calories and this in undoubtedly one of the secrets to their success.

Next thing you'll be doing CR (caloric restriction).  I tried it for awhile about 15 years ago and just could not stand the way I looked.  I'm a Skinny Bastard and this turned me into a Skeletal Bastard...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 08, 2012, 03:06:31 pm

I have been learning most foods will kill me. I am slowly poisoing myself. 

Actually you don't know how much truth there is in this.  No matter how careful you eat you increase your oxidative load in certain areas, increase glycation and slowly age yourself.  The book that I always tout by John Robbins on the four healthiest supercultures actually has something in the fine print:  these cultures all eat relatively low calories and this in undoubtedly one of the secrets to their success.

Next thing you'll be doing CR (caloric restriction).  I tried it for awhile about 15 years ago and just could not stand the way I looked.  I'm a Skinny Bastard and this turned me into a Skeletal Bastard...
CR is what I've been doing to lose the 60lbs, in 10 weeks,  about...
I did take 2,4, dinitrophenol, which is AMES test negative, its a mitochrondrial uncoupler and makes ETC much more ineffiecent, so I dont how how healthy that was for me, but Im done now and I know the lost weight has helped me immensly
I wont end up a skinny bastard, but I will maintain a low calorie diet, cept 1x or so a week.... because I love food, but now Im stick to not going out for food.....really, where the hell would I go to get food?  and filtered water water?
no where
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 08, 2012, 06:33:39 pm
In the weight loss challenge I'm doing, and have periodically mentioned the Sponsor is a dumbass who sells Herbalife Products
My closests opponent, unless she considerable exceeds her average weekly loss by more than double over the past 9 weeks has now lost, I just need to weigh in on monday.
the Herbalife contest will close

I like to know things and I sorta out what is useful later, so I wrote Jerry a nice email. I realize moreso now, Jerry is indeed a dumbass:
unless Im just wrong, which I'm not..

.watchntv.. <watchntv@gmail.com>    Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 5:49 PM
To: Jerry .com>
Jerry
I dont know what you think about my participation in the class, but I've actually taken class material to heart, as my health history of myself and family isnt perfect or close to it.
I'm trying to learn more and I think Im going to continue my health education about food, the legal drug, with the book, 'Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills' by Russell L. Blaylock

I was wondering if you would share with me any suggestions you have about other reading material or websites to further educate me on what my body needs vs what is thought my body needs.
Thanks
-Travers

Hi Travers!

I am glad that you are making your health your focus.  After all, what do we have if we don't have our health?

I haven't heard of that book but there is an amazing amount of material online that I like to read.  I have access to quite a bit of material on our Distributor portal (i.e. Herbalife gives us access to a lot of nutrition information, so I don't buy a lot of books per se).

Let me know if you get anything cool from that book - always looking to
absorb.

by not reading current info and info not given to him by his Commmie corporation, he missed out and will remain a skinny fat dumbass
the book
Excitotoxins – The Taste That Kills
Russell Blaycock, MD

http://insuranceandwellness.com/Excitotoxins.pdf
Foods to watch out for include: Soybean milk (naturally high in glutamate / often has hydrolyzed
vegetable protein added to it), kombu, miso, and soy sauces all contain MSG.
Sources of MSG include: MSG, Monosodium Glutamate, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, Vegetable Protein, Hydrolyzed Plan Protein, Plant Protein Extract, Sodium Caseinate, Calcium Caseinate, Yeast Extract, Textured Protein, Autolyzed Protein, Autolyzed Yeast, and Hydrolyzed Oat Flour.
Additives frequently containing MSG: Malt extract, Malt Flavoring, Bouillon, Broth, Stock, Flavoring, Natural Flavoring, Natural Beef or Chicken Flavoring, Seasoning and Spices.
Additives that may contain MSG or Excitotoxins: Carrageenan, Enzymes, Soy Protein Concentrate,
Soy Protein Isolate, and Protein Concentrate. Protease enzymes of various sources can release
excitotoxin amino acids from food proteins.



Soy Protein Isolate, is the main/only protein in the Herbalife /Food, Jerry sells


and
Soy protein shakes are all the rage. Ironically,they contain one of the highest levels of glutamate, as well as other brain toxins such as high levels
of manganese and fluoride. One long-term (25 year) study found that those who ate the most soycontaining foods had the greatest brain shrinkage (brain atrophy). Soy has also been shown to trigger violent rage attacks
http://www.newportnutritionals.com/Program_for_a_Healthy_Brain.pdf


Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 08, 2012, 09:44:47 pm
I appreciate the advice on the water filtration.  Our tap water smells like chlorine when you get within a foot of it - just nasty.  (Assoc w/ GI cancers)
the least I can do for ya
understand, there are 20+ water systems looked at by consumer reports, I looked only at .
Reverse Osmosis Filters
 a Recommened by is the
Whirlpool WHER25 RO system, priced in CR at $150, I picked it up at Lowe's for $87 and a plumber will install it tomorrow for $75........I'll let you know,
True it only works in my kitchen, but I can use glass pitchers to bring water upstairs to brush teeth, drink, etc

at the Natures Pantry (veganish/natural store I go to) they sell both RO and Distilled water..I'd get a distilary, but $1k+....I dunno about that,  CR seems pretty sure this will work fine

I have a question
at the vegan store, they sell organic/natural everything
WHY DO THEY SELL SO MUCH STUFF LOADED WITH SATURATED FATS?

I went there to browse and pick up a few things so when I finish this weight contest, I can have a meal that isnt eggwhites and filtered water/coffee with no sugar!
but I didnt buy any candy or junk that had saturated fats....
1st off, the stuff they sell might say "GLUTEN FREE" or "1000% natural" but when it has soy or textured protein or some other excitotoxin that I recognize, I dont buy it....but do they not know about Excitotoxins? 
so are they putting the gun down(pesticides in foods or whatever "natural" food offers,) and picking up a hunters knife?

Im so baffled

of course, I dont understand what organic corn seed is either, how is that different than normal  corn kernels?  I just want to make air popcorn!

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 09, 2012, 08:07:56 am
Let me know how hard the install is.  Genuinely curious...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Quincy on June 09, 2012, 08:20:13 am
Reverse Osmosis Filters
 a Recommened by is the
Whirlpool WHER25 RO system, priced in CR at $150, I picked it up at Lowe's for $87 and a plumber will install it tomorrow for $75........I'll let you know,

I have an RO system for our drinking water and ice maker. Just to let you know, I think these systems typically use about 7 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of RO water. The rest is going down the drain. Where I live water is somewhat precious (dry climate with aquifer). If you can figure a way to pipe or store the excess water water for gardening or such it wouldn't go to waste. I'm still puzzling over that one with my system.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 09, 2012, 09:39:55 am
Reverse Osmosis Filters
 a Recommened by is the
Whirlpool WHER25 RO system, priced in CR at $150, I picked it up at Lowe's for $87 and a plumber will install it tomorrow for $75........I'll let you know,

I have an RO system for our drinking water and ice maker. Just to let you know, I think these systems typically use about 7 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of RO water. The rest is going down the drain. Where I live water is somewhat precious (dry climate with aquifer). If you can figure a way to pipe or store the excess water water for gardening or such it wouldn't go to waste. I'm still puzzling over that one with my system.
consumer reports said it had a pretty good flow rate, If it comes out too slow, I'll fill some of my glass pitchers with water and store them in the fridge
how do you know it costs you 7 gallons to make one gallon? what RO system do you have?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Quincy on June 09, 2012, 10:33:43 am
See this Wiki link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis#Disadvantages


We had one put in several years ago by some local installer. He plumbed it tying in all the water lines. It is 4 stage RO system. After a while, you have to replace the various filters… the most expensive one being the RO membrane. After a web search, I found the same system he installed and found it cheaper to order the whole kit from online dealer.

The one I got is the $179 listed at the top of this page…

http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/reverse-osmosis-systems.asp


After the initial plumb job, it was fairly replace it the second time.

I also ordered some extra filters for replacement.

It also has a storage tank that holds 4 gallons, so I don't stockpile any extra with pitchers. I drink a lot of water and use a lot of ice. Never have been caught short.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 09, 2012, 11:12:25 am
See this Wiki link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis#Disadvantages


We had one put in several years ago by some local installer. He plumbed it tying in all the water lines. It is 4 stage RO system. After a while, you have to replace the various filters… the most expensive one being the RO membrane. After a web search, I found the same system he installed and found it cheaper to order the whole kit from online dealer.

The one I got is the $179 listed at the top of this page…

http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/reverse-osmosis-systems.asp


After the initial plumb job, it was fairly replace it the second time.

I also ordered some extra filters for replacement.

It also has a storage tank that holds 4 gallons, so I don't stockpile any extra with pitchers. I drink a lot of water and use a lot of ice. Never have been caught short.
so what RO system did you have put in?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Quincy on June 09, 2012, 12:00:34 pm
The original installer put in a 4 Stage Reverse Osmosis RO Pure Water System probably 7 years ago. He was pestering me to put new filters in about 3 years ago. I found the exact same complete system online for less  than he was going to charge to only replace the filters.

http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/detail.asp?product_id=4_Stage_RO


So I bought this new system (identical) and replaced the old one (tossed it). It seems to work fine, but I don't like how it wastes so much tap water. Only found out about that later after doing a little research how it works.

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 09, 2012, 01:12:36 pm
The original installer put in a 4 Stage Reverse Osmosis RO Pure Water System probably 7 years ago. He was pestering me to put new filters in about 3 years ago. I found the exact same complete system online for less  than he was going to charge to only replace the filters.

http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/detail.asp?product_id=4_Stage_RO


So I bought this new system (identical) and replaced the old one (tossed it). It seems to work fine, but I don't like how it wastes so much tap water. Only found out about that later after doing a little research how it works.
I see, I got mine by how it was recommened by consumer reports....so I'll see how it works, that's all I can do now, or before....
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 09, 2012, 02:08:25 pm
This is kind of strange, but we're renting a house right now while we rent out the house we own.  I know that's kind of weird, but it's temporary.  Anyway, do you think the landlord will allow an RO system to be installed?  Is it pretty intrusive?  Can it be torn out pretty easily/cheaply?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 09, 2012, 02:33:25 pm
This is kind of strange, but we're renting a house right now while we rent out the house we own.  I know that's kind of weird, but it's temporary.  Anyway, do you think the landlord will allow an RO system to be installed?  Is it pretty intrusive?  Can it be torn out pretty easily/cheaply?
I dont know, this model has to have a hole drilled into the counter for the water supply to come out
my friend has a similar unit in her home, and it looks good, the RO unit takes up room under the sink, you should ask your landlord.
likely,they will allow it, if you leave it in after you leave...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Quincy on June 09, 2012, 03:05:35 pm
They are fairly simple to setup and can probably be done without much intrusion. The components, at least the one I have, there’s not much to it. All the filters and filter housing are screwed onto a thin piece of plywood (it’s all made of plastic so it is flimsy and light in weight. The installer just hung that on the wall in my garage next to my hot water heater. For the water source, he just tapped into the cold water line feeding the hot water heater. Once the water runs through the various filters it accumulates in a 4 gallon thin metal tank for storage. There is another line that will need to feed into a drain pipe. That’s the one that wastes about 6 gallons of tap water to filter 1 gallon RO water.

 The way mine is set up is a line runs from the storage tank to my indoor refrigerator. If you have a fridge with water and ice, it’s easiest to just tap into its water feedline and you’re all set for drinking and ice cubes.

If you have room inside your house next to your fridge, you maybe able to put the tank and filters next to it. You just need access to tap a cold water line and a drain water line.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 09, 2012, 05:37:44 pm
Hmmm.  Not much room by the frig.  But I really need to do something about that.  My conscious bothers me regarding my family because we usually now get organic vegetables - thank you Trader Joes' - but then I give everyone a nice big glass of water with clorine, hexavalent chromium, aluminum and a nice dose of pharmaceuticals to round out the whole chemical cocktail...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 09, 2012, 06:22:25 pm
Hmmm.  Not much room by the frig.  But I really need to do something about that.  My conscious bothers me regarding my family because we usually now get organic vegetables - thank you Trader Joes' - but then I give everyone a nice big glass of water with clorine, hexavalent chromium, aluminum and a nice dose of pharmaceuticals to round out the whole chemical cocktail...
now you sound like the people in my family,everything gives you cancer, just enjoy life
you do what you can with what you have, when your enviroment changes to allow you o do more to prevent them from possibly having bad health, then change, otherwise, be content with what are doing currently. otherwise the stress will getcha!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Cronos on June 10, 2012, 03:42:51 pm
I agree with watchn. Their is only so much we can do for ourselves and families. The fact is we live in a very toxic country so we have to do the best we can with what we've got and leave it at that.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 10, 2012, 03:45:11 pm
Agreed guys.  Didn't mean to imply otherwise.  But adding an RO system is not that involved or expensive, so I was just trying to say that I should just do it...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Cronos on June 10, 2012, 05:03:50 pm
Ok gotcha Peak. Probably should of payed a little more attention and not read into what you said as much.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 10, 2012, 10:46:21 pm
I tend to joke around too much - probably shouldn't!

No, I think most people can manage environmental exposures fairly well.  It takes a little money, though, which admittedly some people don't have accesss to.  You have to fight technology with technology at times and that can take some cash...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 11, 2012, 12:52:51 am
I agree with watchn. Their is only so much we can do for ourselves and families. The fact is we live in a very toxic country so we have to do the best we can with what we've got and leave it at that.

it's watchntv
how lazy do you have to be not to spell someones name right?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Cronos on June 11, 2012, 04:13:14 am
Really... You don't have to be a douche. It's the same way I just say Peak instead of Peak T. It just doesn't work at all with your name ok. Next time I'll probably just say W and piss you off even more. Don't ever call me lazy.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 11, 2012, 05:12:45 am
Really... You don't have to be a douche. It's the same way I just say Peak instead of Peak T. It just doesn't work at all with your name ok. Next time I'll probably just say W and piss you off even more. Don't ever call me lazy.
I didn't call you anything, I described your actions. 
ESL?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Cronos on June 11, 2012, 06:04:10 am
Either way it came off in the way I read it. Personally I don't think that it's lazy. It's just something I do to some peoples names whether that's bad or not. I do apologize for my reaction though. Woke up on the wrong side of bed so everything is making me angry. So again sorry.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 11, 2012, 11:21:47 am
Either way it came off in the way I read it. Personally I don't think that it's lazy. It's just something I do to some peoples names whether that's bad or not. I do apologize for my reaction though. Woke up on the wrong side of bed so everything is making me angry. So again sorry.
the same occurence happens in real life
say you introduce yourself to someone, "HI, I'm Barry"

oh hi, Bar, what's up?

what do you call that?  you said your name is Barry, the person has changed your name to something that isnt your name
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 17, 2012, 05:07:23 pm
I know microwave popcorn,with the (PFOA) that vaporizes and disperses onto your popcorn when you heat it in the microwave, is bad for you/penis.
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Processed_Foods.aspx
but what about air popped popcorn?

Serving Size
3 cups (24.0 g)
Amount Per Serving
Calories
93
Calories from Fat
10
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 1.1g
Saturated Fat 0.1g
Polyunsaturated Fat 0.5g
Monounsaturated Fat .3g
Cholesterol 0mg
Sodium 2mg

Total Carbohydrates 18.7g
Dietary Fiber 3.5g
Sugars 0.2g

Title: Re: random question
Post by: makingsteel on June 17, 2012, 11:00:07 pm
PEAK T- I have enjoyed your stamina with this one thread.

I just signed up and purchased and read all your writings which were excellent and guide me in some sort of direction. Looking forward to more chat.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 17, 2012, 11:11:59 pm
PEAK T- I have enjoyed your stamina with this one thread.

I just signed up and purchased and read all your writings which were excellent and guide me in some sort of direction. Looking forward to more chat.
I suggest you make use of PMs
 8)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: makingsteel on June 17, 2012, 11:19:11 pm
Why PMs?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 17, 2012, 11:40:18 pm
you posted a comment in a thread not relevant to the thread,
a PM would have been appropriate
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 25, 2012, 09:16:16 am
Sunscreen

I have bought some Mexoryl Anthelios, they arent cheap. 

so I'd prefer to go the food route to increase my resistance to sun damage
so I read Peaks Article and I have a few questions
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Diet.aspx

) Foods. Many foods have some - not enough mind you - sunscreen-like protection in small but significant quantities.  For example, the lycopene in tomato sauce, tomato paste and ketchup has been shown in one study to be very protective of your skin from sun damage. [7] Researchers gave participants the equivalent of 5 tablespoons of tomato paste per day and noticed 33% less damage from UV radiation, which is roughly the equivalent of SPF 1.3.  CAUTION:  Be cautious about eating any tomato product from a tin can:  it can leach out a nasty xenoestrogen.

I have noticed I love tomato paste over marinara sauce
I use bionaturae tomato paste....BPA free glass jars.
http://www.bionaturae.com/tomatoes.html

If I eat move than 5 tablespoons a day, wont my SPF protection go up?
 

Berries.  One phytochemical in berries, elagic acid, was given to mice and found to be photoprotective against UVB radiation. [14]  I am unsure what dosage this translates to but this wonder chemical decreased wrinkles, decreased inflammation, promoted collagen and thickened skin, all Holy Grails of the skin care world. 

I eat about half-1 cup of berries(blue,, red,, black, staw) a day AND I take 1 gram of ellagic acid(from Purebulk)http://purebulk.com/pomegranate-extract-ellagic-acid
a day
I dont have access to the study you cited in the article above, do you think this is enough to increae UVB protectoin or should I increase the amounts I take?

Tea, Prunes and Apples.  These nutritional powerhouses were associated with less skin wrinkling. [2]  Probably any dark colored fruit or vegetable packed with antioxidants and flavanoids like these will have the same effect.

I eat apples but the prunes have high sugar content, so my question is when is it best to eat them?  I'm thinking before I work out, burn calories, as opposed to sitting on my ass in front of the computer typing more posts in this thread!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 25, 2012, 09:37:16 am
I created a new thread with your last question.

One comment:  you can get some direct UV protection with foods.  But it is certainly not sunscreen.  The comments that have read from time to time is that it is the equivalent of a 3 or 4 I believe.  Of course, you get many other types of protection against cancer by eating well and eating superfoods.  But, as far as pure sunscreening abilities, foods are not going to be an SPF 15...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 25, 2012, 11:17:24 am
I created a new thread with your last question.

One comment:  you can get some direct UV protection with foods.  But it is certainly not sunscreen.  The comments that have read from time to time is that it is the equivalent of a 3 or 4 I believe.  Of course, you get many other types of protection against cancer by eating well and eating superfoods.  But, as far as pure sunscreening abilities, foods are not going to be an SPF 15...
I didnt find the thread you made, can you supply a link pleae?


I cant naturally get SPF 15? well nuts,, but can I inject "organic" chlorophyll into my cells so I can utilize the sun and reduce my dependance on food? :o
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 25, 2012, 11:27:10 am
Here ya' go:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=347.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 25, 2012, 11:36:13 am
Here ya' go:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=347.0

great,
thank you . :D
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 25, 2012, 02:35:14 pm
And good luck with that whole cross-breeding with a plant thing...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 26, 2012, 06:26:06 am
And good luck with that whole cross-breeding with a plant thing...
thanks, I'm more concerned about human testing....
but I think this is the future... either for humans or for cows....(think about it, cows needing sunshine and not grass? hmm tasty)  but this is why alien sightings are short, green aliens....
I dont understand enough about photosynthesis though because how do plants NOT become fat?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 26, 2012, 07:18:05 am
Well, again, I'd forget about the chlorophyll thing.  Interestingly enough, fat may actually be the solution to fat.  Pretty Zen-like, huh?

Yes, some researchers say freezing your can and "awakening your inner fat" is actually the answer to your weight problems as you probably know.  Another solution may be around the corner, though, where we can get an injection that converts some of our white fat to brown:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/white-fat-turned-brown-shed-pounds/story?id=13999861 

One recent small study, though, cast some doubt on that:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/01/24/why-brown-fat-is-no-obesity-cure-yet/
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on June 30, 2012, 06:31:49 pm
Well, again, I'd forget about the chlorophyll thing.  Interestingly enough, fat may actually be the solution to fat.  Pretty Zen-like, huh?

Yes, some researchers say freezing your can and "awakening your inner fat" is actually the answer to your weight problems as you probably know.  Another solution may be around the corner, though, where we can get an injection that converts some of our white fat to brown:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/white-fat-turned-brown-shed-pounds/story?id=13999861 

One recent small study, though, cast some doubt on that:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/01/24/why-brown-fat-is-no-obesity-cure-yet/

If I recall correctly, freezing yourself, ie taking a cold shower, drops leptin (or some whoremoan) and makes you incredibly hungry
 all you need is CHEEZEWHIZ
CheezWhiz's macronutrient profile is almost exactly 1/3 protein, 1/3 carbs, 1/3 fats it was the perfect Bodybuilding SuperFood,

Bulking: eat more cheezwhiz
Cutting: eat less cheezwhiz

Yeah, that works. 8)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on June 30, 2012, 07:47:18 pm
I ate Cheese Whiz by the pound when I was a kid:

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/06/processed-foods-arent-real-food.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 01, 2012, 02:04:53 pm
I know this drives you nuts, but I split out your question because it was a great one.  See the topic "Don't Sinners Do As Well as Saints?"
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 01, 2012, 02:30:37 pm
I know this drives you nuts, but I split out your question because it was a great one.  See the topic "Don't Sinners Do As Well as Saints?"
doesnt drive me nuts, at all,  but I do like a link to the thread
http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=374.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 01, 2012, 02:36:20 pm
I know this drives you nuts, but I split out your question because it was a great one.  See the topic "Don't Sinners Do As Well as Saints?"
doesnt drive me nuts, at all,  but I do like a link to the thread
http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=374.0

Noted...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 02, 2012, 02:16:38 pm
Another great idea regarding MS.  And I was a good boy this time:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=377.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 02, 2012, 02:46:37 pm
Another great idea regarding MS.  And I was a good boy this time:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=377.0
(http://www.davescomputertips.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/mega-icon-smiley-thumbs-up.jpg)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 10, 2012, 12:05:13 pm
Im reading Dr Blaylocks book,, "Health and nutrition secrets"
why is USA/the world killing itself?

putting fluoride into water was a mistake and instead of admitting they are wrong, the government is covering it up saying they are right 1000?
 I can use distilled water in my home, but what about the fruit I eat? when I go to a restaurant? arent those places going to be filled with water that contains fluoride ?
so Dr B talks about his solutions to neutralize what you can of crap happening to assault your body/brain(crap=technical lingo) I'll post a thread on that later, hopefully Peak/et al. can give us what he/they do
Im really curious about how the heck I've ever not just killed myself via all he crap I put into my body. but from what I've read the reason Im still ok is because I havent gotten old and my body isnt breaking down(as fat soluble "junk"(lead/ Aluminin/etc) get stored and arent releasted into the blood on top of the fact that  the body can take a lot of damage and still function(75% of the brain cells usually are affected before you get symptoms, which is why diseases like Parkinsons are so hard to treat)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 10, 2012, 02:03:52 pm
Flouride in the water is only half of it:  fluoride is used all over the place in agriculture in pesticides and herbicides:

http://www.ewg.org/comm/ewg-letter-epa-sulfuryl-fluoride-tolerances
http://www.ewg.org/news/nyt-epa-proposes-phaseout-fluoride-based-pesticide
http://www.ewg.org/fluoride

Make sure you keep your glutathione as high as possible and consuming cilantros and parsleys may help (if they are organic):

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Glutathione.aspx

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 10, 2012, 02:05:33 pm
I was going to start using  Rogain Foam
is that going to affect my T- levels?
I see it might cause heart palpations

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Retin_A.aspx

Minoxidil (Rogaine).  Minoxidil, the common hair loss formulation for men, has a fairly common side effect of arrthymia and can actually change the heart.  See my link on Hair Loss for details.

I assume not, since I can use it with Retain-A and get better results
One other benefit of Retin-A is with hair loss when coupled with Rogaine (minoxidil).  It works by "exfoliating" you skin, which means it removes much of the hard, dry outer layer of your skin.  And this allows other chemicals to be absorbed more easily such as Rogaine. In other words, you may get improved hair re-growth results using the combination of Rogaine + Retin-A! Don't self-treat with this but talk to your doctor as there are a number of studies showing good results using this technique. [4] In fact, some studies have shown just Retin-A by itself can result in hair growth.  Get yourself a good doctor and find out what can be done if this is an issue for you.
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Skin_Retin_A.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 10, 2012, 02:12:42 pm
I was going to start using  Rogain Foam
is that going to affect my T- levels?


Not that I know of, but who knows with that stuff?  What about tocotrienols?  That seems like it better a way to protect your hair?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 10, 2012, 02:18:51 pm
Flouride in the water is only half of it:  fluoride is used all over the place in agriculture in pesticides and herbicides:

http://www.ewg.org/comm/ewg-letter-epa-sulfuryl-fluoride-tolerances
http://www.ewg.org/news/nyt-epa-proposes-phaseout-fluoride-based-pesticide
http://www.ewg.org/fluoride

Make sure you keep your glutathione as high as possible and consuming cilantros and parsleys may help (if they are organic):

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Glutathione.aspx
half of it?
NO KIDDING! Im so "mad" at the government, I can get the distilled water at home, but what about all the food, I eat not grown using that water
you just showed me again why I love reading what you write, I need solutions, not just more problems or analysis of the problem(Ive watched too much news about the economy/etc, I need ANSWERS)

WHAT TO DO IF YOU HAVE USED ASPARTAME
By Neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D.
(c) 2003
http://www.wnho.net/wtdaspartame.htm

seems like a legit site

my mom vistited me the over the 4th and thought I was a witch, as I have bottle of supplments all over AND packets of herbs/powders, like Bell peppers
Beet Root powder
Whole Dill Seeds
Bail leaf
Rosemay Leaf powder
physillum husks Whole
caynee pepper ground
 Whole Hawthron Berries
Resveratrol

I wonder about the Resveratrol I take
Its in powder form ,so I dont think it has good absorption and It has be taken in "mega-doses', which I dont know what that is?
I might add in milk thistle, as dr Baylock says take that for the liver AND if resveratol affects the liver, this wold help

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 10, 2012, 02:22:51 pm
I was going to start using  Rogain Foam
is that going to affect my T- levels?


Not that I know of, but who knows with that stuff?  What about tocotrienols?  That seems like it better a way to protect your hair?

I dont know about tocotrienols?
is that vit E?   so what would I eat for to get more of all tocopherols  for those?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 13, 2012, 02:55:05 am
I forget if I asked this, but if I drink more pomegrante juice, (all my carbs everday) it will reduce  IMT more and improve blood flow more?

You put all these properties together and Pomegranate Juice becomes a near magic elixir that actually partially reversed artheriosclerosis in one study!  You read that right - pomegranate juice can actually clear off some of the plaque in your arteries assuming you take it faithfully for three, six or even twelve months. [1] Here is a quote from Lef.org's site about this study: "Remarkably, patients drinking 1.7 oz of pomegranate juice experienced a whopping 35% reduction in the IMT score and a 44% improvement in carotid artery blood flow". IMT is the thickness between inner and middle layers of the artery
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Pomegranate.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 13, 2012, 05:27:41 am
I forget if I asked this, but if I drink more pomegrante juice, (all my carbs everday) it will reduce  IMT more and improve blood flow more?


Per that study, yes.  However, there are two things to realize:

1.  This is just one small study.
2.  It was on a specific subpopulation.

#2 is important because it actually cleared plaque in men with arteriosclerosis.  However, probably 90% of the guys arriving at my site with erectile dysfunction have significant arterial plaque that could be improved with a low fat diet and possibly, according to this study, certain superfoods such as pomegranate juice.

CAUTION:  Anyone reading this on medications needs to realize that pomegranate juice can affect certain medications.  Talk to your doctor.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 14, 2012, 12:58:37 pm
what about this study, that you said showed low carb diets lowered T-levels?
I didnt realize you meant on endurance athletes who were training INTENSELY...
besides, dont all diets lower T-levels?


http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Atkins_Low_Carb_Diet.aspx
Influence of dietary carbohydrate intake on the free testosterone: cortisol ratio responses to short-term intensive exercise training.
Lane AR, Duke JW, Hackney AC.
Source

Endocrine Section, Applied Physiology Laboratory, Department of Exercise and Sport Science, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA.
Abstract

This study examined the effect of dietary carbohydrate (CHO) consumption on the free testosterone to cortisol (fTC) ratio during a short-term intense micro-cycle of exercise training. The fTC ratio is a proposed biomarker for overreaching-overtraining (i.e., training stress or imbalance) in athletes. The ratio was studied in two groups, control-CHO (approximately 60% of daily intake, n = 12) and low-CHO (approximately 30% of daily intake, n = 8), of male subjects who performed three consecutive days of intensive training (approximately 70-75% maximal oxygen consumption, 60 min per day) with a dietary intervention (on the day before and during training). Resting, pre-exercise blood samples were collected under standardized-controlled conditions before each day of training (Pre 1, 2, 3) and on a fourth day after the micro-cycle (Rest). Bloods were analyzed for free testosterone and cortisol via radioimmunoassay procedures. Subjects performed no additional physical activity other than prescribed training. Statistical analysis (ANCOVA) revealed the fTC ratio decreased significantly (p < 0.01) from pre-study resting measurement (Pre 1) to the final post-study resting measurement (Rest) in the low-CHO group (-43%), but no change occurred (p > 0.05) in the control-CHO group (-3%). Findings suggest if the fTC ratio is utilized as a marker of training stress or imbalance it is necessary for a moderately high diet of CHO to be consumed to maintain validity of any observed changes in the ratio value.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 14, 2012, 06:47:55 pm
This is a good point.  I will probably end up removing that from that page.  Let me check it out though:  can't do it right now.

Also, many endurance exercises seem to lower baseline testosterone somewhat.  Now that's not necessarily the end of the world obviously because of the endothelial benefits. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 15, 2012, 07:30:34 pm
My parents eat wild caught Salmon a few times  a week
shouldnt they be concerned about mercury  and other heavy metals??
http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20412030,00.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on July 16, 2012, 06:10:15 am
i think bigger fish like tuna and swordfish are the ones to stay away from/really limit....the bigger the fish, the more the mercury. Salmon is a small fish.

i'd guess that the benefits of eating it outweigh the dangers of *not* eating fish.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 16, 2012, 06:54:53 am
Here is some data on salmon.  Notice that footnotes on mercury and omega-3's:

http://apps.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=1521

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 19, 2012, 03:28:11 am
Hey congrats on the 54 pounds and everything else!  Very impressive. 

I know someone who has done low carb diets many times - gonna ask 'em if they ever got a Ketone High.  That's a new one!

I read this
10) Protein-to-Carbohydrate Ratio.  The protein/carbohydrate ratio has an interesting effect on free testosterone and SHBG.  Several studies have shown that increasing carbs versus protein boosts total testosterone. However, before you start pounding granola bars, one study found that increasing the protein/carb ratio not only increased total testosterone but also SHBG. [4]  This means that free testosterone may not have been increased significantly because of SHBG's opposing effects.  (Increasing the protein to carbohydrate ratio also increased cortisol, a fact I cover elsewhere on this site.)

what ratio should one have?
or can you forward me the study?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 19, 2012, 07:07:30 am

what ratio should one have?
or can you forward me the study?

Don't know and I doubt anyone knows the answer to that one.  This is kind of things that is maddening:  someone out there really should have studied this in depth but there's no money in it so it falls by the wayside.

And I don't have the study.  You should be able to get that with no problem, right?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 19, 2012, 10:49:34 am

what ratio should one have?
or can you forward me the study?

Don't know and I doubt anyone knows the answer to that one.  This is kind of things that is maddening:  someone out there really should have studied this in depth but there's no money in it so it falls by the wayside.

And I don't have the study.  You should be able to get that with no problem, right?
my library isnt easy to use , so no, But Im looking
Life Sci. 1987 May 4;40(18):1761-8.
Diet-hormone interactions: protein/carbohydrate ratio alters reciprocally the plasma levels of testosterone and cortisol and their respective binding globulins in man.
Anderson KE, Rosner W, Khan MS, New MI, Pang SY, Wissel PS, Kappas A.
Abstract

The aim of this study was to determine if a change in protein/carbohydrate ratio influences plasma steroid hormone concentrations. There is little information about the effects of specific dietary components on steroid hormone metabolism in humans. Testosterone concentrations in seven normal men were consistently higher after ten days on a high carbohydrate diet (468 +/- 34 ng/dl, mean +/- S.E.) than during a high protein diet (371 +/- 23 ng/dl, p less than 0.05) and were accompanied by parallel changes in sex hormone binding globulin (32.5 +/- 2.8 nmol/l vs. 23.4 +/- 1.6 nmol/l respectively, p less than 0.01). By contrast, cortisol concentrations were consistently lower during the high carbohydrate diet than during the high protein diet (7.74 +/- 0.71 micrograms/dl vs. 10.6 +/- 0.4 micrograms/dl respectively, p less than 0.05), and there were parallel changes in corticosteroid binding globulin concentrations (635 +/- 60 nmol/l vs. 754 +/- 31 nmol/l respectively, p less than 0.05). The diets were equal in total calories and fat. These consistent and reciprocal changes suggest that the ratio of protein to carbohydrate in the human diet is an important regulatory factor for steroid hormone plasma levels and for liver-derived hormone binding proteins.
PMID:
3573976
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Life Sci. 1987 May 4;40(18):1761-8.
Diet-hormone interactions: protein/carbohydrate ratio alters reciprocally the plasma levels of testosterone and cortisol and their respective binding globulins in man.
Anderson KE, Rosner W, Khan MS, New MI, Pang SY, Wissel PS, Kappas A.
Abstract

The aim of this study was to determine if a change in protein/carbohydrate ratio influences plasma steroid hormone concentrations. There is little information about the effects of specific dietary components on steroid hormone metabolism in humans. Testosterone concentrations in seven normal men were consistently higher after ten days on a high carbohydrate diet (468 +/- 34 ng/dl, mean +/- S.E.) than during a high protein diet (371 +/- 23 ng/dl, p less than 0.05) and were accompanied by parallel changes in sex hormone binding globulin (32.5 +/- 2.8 nmol/l vs. 23.4 +/- 1.6 nmol/l respectively, p less than 0.01). By contrast, cortisol concentrations were consistently lower during the high carbohydrate diet than during the high protein diet (7.74 +/- 0.71 micrograms/dl vs. 10.6 +/- 0.4 micrograms/dl respectively, p less than 0.05), and there were parallel changes in corticosteroid binding globulin concentrations (635 +/- 60 nmol/l vs. 754 +/- 31 nmol/l respectively, p less than 0.05). The diets were equal in total calories and fat. These consistent and reciprocal changes suggest that the ratio of protein to carbohydrate in the human diet is an important regulatory factor for steroid hormone plasma levels and for liver-derived hormone binding proteins.
PMID:
3573976
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Title: Re: random question
Post by: feelgood on July 19, 2012, 12:54:04 pm
i have nothing relevant to say, other than your signature file is the best thing ever:


"oh fuck it, I'll become a vegetarian
Homer: Lisa honey, are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad those all come from the same animal
Homer: (laughing)Yeah right Lisa. A wonderful magical animal."
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 19, 2012, 01:45:02 pm
i have nothing relevant to say, other than your signature file is the best thing ever:


"oh fuck it, I'll become a vegetarian
Homer: Lisa honey, are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad those all come from the same animal
Homer: (laughing)Yeah right Lisa. A wonderful magical animal."
Vegetarian - the old indian word for Bad Hunter
__________________
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 24, 2012, 09:24:13 pm
You did it again:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=417.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 27, 2012, 11:44:11 am
I finally returned the reverse water osmosis filter to LOWES, i just couldnt find a plumber to install it that I could trust.
I bought a new fridge and a new dishwasher over the 4th of july and the dishwasher installer brought along his son and I liked the cut of their jib, but they didnt do plumping
so I returned it and bought a Stainless Steel Home Water Distiller – Model 100SS from H20LAbs
http://www.h2olabs.com/p-15-stainless-steel-model-100ss.aspx
1 yr  warrenty and should last 10+ years..makes a gallon of so of water a day.....so its great for me, I also have glass pitchers to save water. so I can store 3 gallons easily, so its always cold...
pricey at $250, but I buy 1 gallon jugs at 88cents each and lug those home and I dont like the plastic bottles and once I accidently got Spring water and I didnt realize till I was drinking it and I thought the water had gone bad.  This was about 2 weeks of only drinking distilled water...I am very much enjoying the distilled water
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 27, 2012, 11:49:19 am
I finally returned the reverse water osmosis filter to LOWES, i just couldnt find a plumber to install it that I could trust.
I bought a new fridge and a new dishwasher over the 4th of july and the dishwasher installer brought along his son and I liked the cut of their jib, but they didnt do plumping
so I returned it and bought a Stainless Steel Home Water Distiller – Model 100SS from H20LAbs
http://www.h2olabs.com/p-15-stainless-steel-model-100ss.aspx
1 yr  warrenty and should last 10+ years..makes a gallon of so of water a day.....so its great for me, I also have glass pitchers to save water. so I can store 3 gallons easily, so its always cold...
pricey at $250, but I buy 1 gallon jugs at 88cents each and lug those home and I dont like the plastic bottles and once I accidently got Spring water and I didnt realize till I was drinking it and I thought the water had gone bad.  This was about 2 weeks of only drinking distilled water...I am very much enjoying the distilled water

That's pretty cool but how does it work (in a nutshell)?  Is it simple filtration or does it a scaled down super collider of some sort?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 28, 2012, 03:14:07 am
]

That's pretty cool but how does it work (in a nutshell)?  Is it simple filtration or does it a scaled down super collider of some sort?
Water distillation has three basic steps. Water is heated to boiling. The steam is collected and condenses into water droplets on a surface as it cools. The droplets are collected in a storage container. The water is cleansed of heavier elements and impurities such as bacteria that are not carried by water in vapor form.

Read more: How Does a Water Distiller Work? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4913740_water-distiller-work.html#ixzz21uVPrBO5

you can see this guy used a solar water distiller when he was lost at sea  in a 6 man raft for 80 days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePNWo9Qiu4
at 1:30 or so

or you can just use google to answer these easy questions, 8)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 28, 2012, 06:21:31 am
what do I use to brush my teeth?

i cant log on to the site/pages as I get this error message

Server Error in '/' Application.
Parser Error
Description: An error occurred during the parsing of a resource required to service this request. Please review the following specific parse error details and modify your source file appropriately.

Parser Error Message: Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\85d9c38a\d09ab579\App_Web_processed_foods_deceptive.aspx.cdcab7d2.opj8rdax.0.vb'.

Source Error:


Line 1:  <%@ Page Language="VB" %>
Line 2: 
Line 3:  <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">


Source File: /Processed_Foods_Deceptive.aspx    Line: 1

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.4223; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.4223
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on July 28, 2012, 10:25:17 am
what do I use to brush my teeth?

i cant log on to the site/pages as I get this error message

Server Error in '/' Application.
Parser Error
Description: An error occurred during the parsing of a resource required to service this request. Please review the following specific parse error details and modify your source file appropriately.

Parser Error Message: Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\85d9c38a\d09ab579\App_Web_processed_foods_deceptive.aspx.cdcab7d2.opj8rdax.0.vb'.

Source Error:


Line 1:  <%@ Page Language="VB" %>
Line 2: 
Line 3:  <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">


Source File: /Processed_Foods_Deceptive.aspx    Line: 1

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.4223; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.4223

Yeah, I think it's my hosting company:  it happens from time to time.  A "hosting file" gets locked/disabled.  What's interesting is that the forum was still up and running.

And thx for the distiller info!

I am going to hit up the Little Woman for one of those!  But how does the last filtration step work where it is "cleansed of heavier elements"?  (Sorry, I'm too lazy to Google right now...)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on July 28, 2012, 10:57:26 am
what do I use to brush my teeth?

i cant log on to the site/pages as I get this error message

Server Error in '/' Application.
Parser Error
Description: An error occurred during the parsing of a resource required to service this request. Please review the following specific parse error details and modify your source file appropriately.

Parser Error Message: Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary ASP.NET Files\root\85d9c38a\d09ab579\App_Web_processed_foods_deceptive.aspx.cdcab7d2.opj8rdax.0.vb'.

Source Error:


Line 1:  <%@ Page Language="VB" %>
Line 2: 
Line 3:  <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">


Source File: /Processed_Foods_Deceptive.aspx    Line: 1

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.4223; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.4223

Yeah, I think it's my hosting company:  it happens from time to time.  A "hosting file" gets locked/disabled.  What's interesting is that the forum was still up and running.

And thx for the distiller info!

I am going to hit up the Little Woman for one of those!  But how does the last filtration step work where it is "cleansed of heavier elements"?  (Sorry, I'm too lazy to Google right now...)
I'm sure what you are asking
the water gets evaporated, which is clean of all chemicals, then when it becomes liquid form again,its clean
then you drink it
what step arent you getting?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 01, 2012, 08:23:57 am
I got my water distiller yesterday
http://www.h2olabs.com/p-15-stainless-steel-model-100ss.aspx
that's what I bought
It's easy to use, it takes about 4 hours to make one gallon of distilled water, but the machine runs smoothly unattended, so you can run it while you are sleeping, at work, having sex, eating, but not while eating transfats, lets face it, if you are eating transfats this product isnt for you.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 01, 2012, 09:26:23 am
while you are sleeping, at work, having sex, eating,

Speaking of distilled, you've really got life down to the basics, don't you? :P
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 01, 2012, 09:28:24 am
but not while eating transfats, lets face it, if you are eating transfats this product isnt for you.

I don't think distilled water is going to protect you after a couple of grams of trans fats.

The machine looks great and the wife is int'd.  I just wish I could find a cheap version.  I got my rice cookers for &7 each...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 01, 2012, 10:06:08 am
but not while eating transfats, lets face it, if you are eating transfats this product isnt for you.

I don't think distilled water is going to protect you after a couple of grams of trans fats.

The machine looks great and the wife is int'd.  I just wish I could find a cheap version.  I got my rice cookers for &7 each...
you missed the point, if you allow yourself to eat a few grams of transfats daily, then likely dont care about your health the way you should and have no reason to be interested in a distilled water machine for your home. you'd rather spend the money on burgers, fries and midget tranny hookers
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 01, 2012, 10:47:03 am

you missed the point

You're taking me way too seriously.

Thx for the rec on the distilled water.  Keep the ideas coming...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 01, 2012, 10:54:56 am

you missed the point

You're taking me way too seriously.

Thx for the rec on the distilled water.  Keep the ideas coming...
\
Internet is a tough medium to discern inflection
If I want comedy, I turn on C-span ;D
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 01, 2012, 11:30:29 am

If I want comedy, I turn on C-span ;D

Once you past 50, it's hard to take anything seriously any more.  So you get what you get...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 01, 2012, 01:32:18 pm

If I want comedy, I turn on C-span ;D

Once you past 50, it's hard to take anything seriously any more.  So you get what you get...
so you take what I say to be funny all the time?
I thought YOU were trying to make jokes and I was supposed to, somehow, realize you were making jokes?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 01, 2012, 02:04:37 pm
Well, yes, that would be ideal...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 01, 2012, 02:48:45 pm
Well, yes, that would be ideal...
what would be ideal?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 02, 2012, 02:40:33 pm
Vitamix

ok, so Ive had it about 2 months and just didnt want to break it out, I feared it would be a complicate mess and it wouldnt work as promiseed

Easy as pie to operate

I missed in 3 cups of frozen broccolli, 1 apple, 2 carrots, bunch of berries and a few cups of distilled water...turned it on
VVVVRRROOOOOOMMMMMMM
mixed it up with the mixing stick
it all mixed, I poured some into a glass...took a swig of the purple concoction----thought it'd taste good...it tastes like broccolli and berries.. but I can drink it with a straw!(but I dont)
I will add more apples next time

This is awesome!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 02, 2012, 02:49:49 pm
I don't think you need to start with Navy Seal training right on day one.  Throwing raw broccoli into a blender is not for the newbie.  In fact, I've never put it into the blender.

Yeah, I do a smoothie every night with all organic stuff.  Mine taste good if I don't say myself and so I have to keep in mind to not over-fructose:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

See the table about half way down.  Fructose is mostly a problem for those consuming lots of fruit juices or table sugar/corn syrup.  But I suppose some people out there might go crazy with their Vitamix - it would be tempting I suppose...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 02, 2012, 03:53:10 pm
I don't think you need to start with Navy Seal training right on day one.  Throwing raw broccoli into a blender is not for the newbie.  In fact, I've never put it into the blender.

Yeah, I do a smoothie every night with all organic stuff.  Mine taste good if I don't say myself and so I have to keep in mind to not over-fructose:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

See the table about half way down.  Fructose is mostly a problem for those consuming lots of fruit juices or table sugar/corn syrup.  But I suppose some people out there might go crazy with their Vitamix - it would be tempting I suppose...
thanks, I was wondering about fructose
I dont even like the taste of what I made, too much fiber and not very sweet
I dont know how much is too much fructose, Im going to make sure I dont eat too much fruit, more than I would normally eat. my goal with the vitamix is to make my veggies more palatable and, most importantly, DRINKABLE,,,I hate heating up and eating broccolli,its a great food, but I hate the hell out of it....but I made my one drink wit 1lb of frozen, raw brocolli...and used distilled water..so if I drink 2 of these drinks a day, with an apple, peaches, 1lbs broccoli...I was thinking about adding BELL PEPPERS or organic tomatoes..and 2 cups mixed berries(blue, cran, black) and Im still losing weight, this is going to be idea.

Im also drinking this as I watch tv and ride my recumbent bike and play poker online via internet....2hours a day of this cardio.....
I'm gonna get ripped

hey peak,
what bodyfat should someone be at?
the body acts differently in regards to food depending on how fat it is, Im sure this has to do with a bunch of homones(leptin/insulin, etc) so what's the ideal bodyfat for a man?  I know you dont want to be too low, or you have sexual issues because ofa lack of leptin the body thinks you're starving, etc
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 02, 2012, 07:30:46 pm
I don't think you need to start with Navy Seal training right on day one.  Throwing raw broccoli into a blender is not for the newbie.  In fact, I've never put it into the blender.

Yeah, I do a smoothie every night with all organic stuff.  Mine taste good if I don't say myself and so I have to keep in mind to not over-fructose:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

See the table about half way down.  Fructose is mostly a problem for those consuming lots of fruit juices or table sugar/corn syrup.  But I suppose some people out there might go crazy with their Vitamix - it would be tempting I suppose...
thanks, I was wondering about fructose
I dont even like the taste of what I made, too much fiber and not very sweet
I dont know how much is too much fructose, Im going to make sure I dont eat too much fruit, more than I would normally eat. my goal with the vitamix is to make my veggies more palatable and, most importantly, DRINKABLE,,,I hate heating up and eating broccolli,its a great food, but I hate the hell out of it....but I made my one drink wit 1lb of frozen, raw brocolli...and used distilled water..so if I drink 2 of these drinks a day, with an apple, peaches, 1lbs broccoli...I was thinking about adding BELL PEPPERS or organic tomatoes..and 2 cups mixed berries(blue, cran, black) and Im still losing weight, this is going to be idea.

Im also drinking this as I watch tv and ride my recumbent bike and play poker online via internet....2hours a day of this cardio.....
I'm gonna get ripped

hey peak,
what bodyfat should someone be at?
the body acts differently in regards to food depending on how fat it is, Im sure this has to do with a bunch of homones(leptin/insulin, etc) so what's the ideal bodyfat for a man?  I know you dont want to be too low, or you have sexual issues because ofa lack of leptin the body thinks you're starving, etc

Wow!  You're gonna be the next Jack LaLanne if you keep this up.  Pretty soon you'll be asking your friends to shackle you while you swim across Lake Michigan...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 02, 2012, 07:33:00 pm

hey peak,
what bodyfat should someone be at?


Why not let the women of the world decide?  I'll bet you they want to see no love handles and a nice straight ab line.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 03, 2012, 08:17:55 am

hey peak,
what bodyfat should someone be at?


Why not let the women of the world decide?  I'll bet you they want to see no love handles and a nice straight ab line.
haha
women are less likely to give a straight answer than you
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 03, 2012, 08:48:33 am

haha
women are less likely to give a straight answer than you

Don't ask them!  Go by their tells.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 03, 2012, 08:58:34 am

haha
women are less likely to give a straight answer than you

Don't ask them!  Go by their tells.
bodyfat wise, I care more about how I feel/what I want
in the bedroom, its about her ::)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 03, 2012, 12:11:29 pm
I don't think you need to start with Navy Seal training right on day one.  Throwing raw broccoli into a blender is not for the newbie.  In fact, I've never put it into the blender.

Yeah, I do a smoothie every night with all organic stuff.  Mine taste good if I don't say myself and so I have to keep in mind to not over-fructose:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose

See the table about half way down.  Fructose is mostly a problem for those consuming lots of fruit juices or table sugar/corn syrup.  But I suppose some people out there might go crazy with their Vitamix - it would be tempting I suppose...
thanks, I was wondering about fructose
I dont even like the taste of what I made, too much fiber and not very sweet
I dont know how much is too much fructose, Im going to make sure I dont eat too much fruit, more than I would normally eat. my goal with the vitamix is to make my veggies more palatable and, most importantly, DRINKABLE,,,I hate heating up and eating broccolli,its a great food, but I hate the hell out of it....but I made my one drink wit 1lb of frozen, raw brocolli...and used distilled water..so if I drink 2 of these drinks a day, with an apple, peaches, 1lbs broccoli...I was thinking about adding BELL PEPPERS or organic tomatoes..and 2 cups mixed berries(blue, cran, black) and Im still losing weight, this is going to be idea.

Im also drinking this as I watch tv and ride my recumbent bike and play poker online via internet....2hours a day of this cardio.....
I'm gonna get ripped


I'm looking for other things to eat
http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=437.new#new


I dont care how you make veggies, they still suck ass.
I made a shake with vitamix
3 handfuls of spinach
1 cup berries(blue mostly)
3 cups peaches(flavor, they have no nutrition that Im aware of)
5 carrots
9 grapes
1lbs frozen broccoli
It  looks like this
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh118/watchntv1978/p_00165.jpg)


 I'd rather eat here at Red Robin and eat a Mudd pie, burger and STEAK FRIES
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4emz51aOg1qzh0fco1_400.jpg)
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepfhqj/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/redrobin2.JPG)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 03, 2012, 02:07:01 pm
You know I don't miss the hamburger fry thing any more I'm proud to say.  That dessert looks pretty good though I have to admit!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 03, 2012, 02:39:03 pm
You know I don't miss the hamburger fry thing any more I'm proud to say.  That dessert looks pretty good though I have to admit!
have you ever eaten at  Red Robins?
the burger is a burger....
the steak fries, are not only Unlimited, but golden brown(visually appealing), smell of french fries(not a macdonald fry smell at all) makes your saliva start to pour, and hearing the fries being poured into baskets sounds so dang good.. then they taste is sensational... crispy and crunchy on the outside and soft and warm on the inside...hmmmmm

The dessert, a mudd pie, is different from any mudd pie I've had before. no coffee icecream, just chocolate and nuts and chocolate syrup and whip cream and oreos and soo good

but thats only equal to Smores at Joes Crab shack
see, I know about all these places cause it takes work to get fat
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310673_10150273380773230_56526653229_7737985_1885332_n.jpg)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 03, 2012, 03:19:32 pm
Legalized and socially acceptable crack, eh?  I hear ya...

But it's interesting, there really is no hamburger that tempts me any more.  I had fast food burnout - and it took about four decades - finally I think...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 03, 2012, 03:48:27 pm
Legalized and socially acceptable crack, eh?  I hear ya...

But it's interesting, there really is no hamburger that tempts me any more.  I had fast food burnout - and it took about four decades - finally I think...
I agree with that, I got tired of fast food burgers when I would have real burgers, like at Red robin or Fuddruckers.  Thick real burgers that when you took a bite you can see where the inch or so of burger.
white castles aren't really burgers, but add extra pickels and those grease balls of transfats are so delicious.

I dont do meat anymore...I feel animals are food, circle of life etc and have no issues with eating them or doing whatever with them....  but to prepare meat and expect to live a long quality life(which means not being on 300 medications and being able to nail your wife without needing 30mins to "get ready") meat is a no no with its saturated fat, HCAs and generally bad for me stance
maybe when I lean out much more I'll have some red robin,  because the body is different when levels of leptin are low...or something like that

on topic of the Vitamix; my dad boils and eats broccoli every night, 4 POUNDS of the stuff, yes FOUR pounds and when I told him how easy it is to use the vitamix to just drink the veggies....he said "Gross".....

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 04, 2012, 07:37:44 am
Speaking of vitamix
after I make a mix of something like this
1lb broccoli
1 cup peaches
2 handfuls spinach
2 apples
handful black grapes

is there a problem if I put half of it in the fridge for 20 hours?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 04, 2012, 10:24:15 am
Legalized and socially acceptable crack, eh?  I hear ya...

But it's interesting, there really is no hamburger that tempts me any more.  I had fast food burnout - and it took about four decades - finally I think...

so when you stopped eating burgers you were 20ish?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 04, 2012, 12:02:39 pm

so when you stopped eating burgers you were 20ish?

You can double that number at least.

I wasn't as smart as Jack LaLanne.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 04, 2012, 12:35:07 pm

so when you stopped eating burgers you were 20ish?

You can double that number at least.

I wasn't as smart as Jack LaLanne.
Jack lalanne was the juice guy?
LaLanne said his two simple rules of nutrition are: "if man made it, don't eat it", and "if it tastes good, spit it out\
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_LaLanne#Diet

interesting stuff
wonder if he just lucked out and thought suffering=health? or if he had some evidence

I see he made popular juicers, the vitamix is better than a mixer and as long I am eager to see my GP in december when I had high cholestrol, high blood sugar and he threatened to put me on meds and whenI go back I wil have lost 100lbs
(so I better lose 30 more asap)
eggwhites and that vitamix blend of
1lb broccoli
2 handfuls spinach
2 apples
handful black grapes
carrots

and eating dried tomatoes at night will  see me lose the weight
but jack had no coffee? hmmm
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 07, 2012, 10:02:29 am
Does anyone subscribe to the Blaylock wellness report?
https://www.newsmaxstore.com/newsletters/blaylock/renew.cfm

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 07, 2012, 10:06:35 am
nteresting stuff
wonder if he just lucked out and thought suffering=health? or if he had some evidence


He didn't luck out.  He is the Gandhi of health and fitness and had perfect discipline from all I've read.  I've never heard of anyone saying anything negative about him from the health and fitness side, i.e. he practiced what he preached I believe.

The guy was superhuman though.  I've never read of anyone like him in his middle-aged and senior years.  I don't know how he did some of the things he did w/o hitting the wall of Overtraining Syndrome.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 07, 2012, 10:13:58 am
Does anyone subscribe to the Blaylock wellness report?
https://www.newsmaxstore.com/newsletters/blaylock/renew.cfm

Not I.  But tell us about it if you end up subscribing...

And I like blending over juicing so you get the whole fruit.  Nothing against Jack Lalanne though...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 07, 2012, 10:22:02 am
nteresting stuff
wonder if he just lucked out and thought suffering=health? or if he had some evidence


He didn't luck out.  He is the Gandhi of health and fitness and had perfect discipline from all I've read.  I've never heard of anyone saying anything negative about him from the health and fitness side, i.e. he practiced what he preached I believe.

The guy was superhuman though.  I've never read of anyone like him in his middle-aged and senior years.  I don't know how he did some of the things he did w/o hitting the wall of Overtraining Syndrome.
I should have been more clear
I meant luck out in some of the things he did,. what caught my eye off wiki was he ate 2 meals a day, which sounds a lot like "IF"ing
intermittent fasting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting

I also wonder why he stopped eating processed foods, how did he make the connection that processed foods bring bad/poor health
Dr Blaylock has tons of reasearch and studies to show processed foods lead to bad health, so how did Jack know?

Id  read more about him, thanks for bringing this to my attention........I dont know how Jack got by with no coffee, I need my caffenine or Im just a mean, intolerant asshole.......thankfully coffee has kept me out of jail.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 07, 2012, 12:17:05 pm
I don't like gross stuff but I read anyway...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 07, 2012, 12:26:58 pm
I don't like gross stuff but I read anyway...
I made a warning......and I thought you DID like gross stuff, which is why I sent you a PM that consists only of PICTURES
 ;)

Im either in a good mood cause of my vitamix, or my coffee...hmmmm
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 12, 2012, 10:42:51 am
I have this habbit that I can't seem to break, I eat when I watch tv
I usually walk/ride when I watch tv, but at night, I'm tired and dont want to get hot and sweaty when I'm alone, so I  dont exercise, I eat
I eat popcorn, sometimes
or Green Shake(vegggies in vitamix)
or I eat JUST Tomatoes

https://www.justtomatoes.com/jtstore/pc/docs/Nutritional%20Info.pdf

does anyone have any good foods they eat at night that will fill me up without bulking me up?
I think I have good choices
thanks
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 12, 2012, 03:08:58 pm
I actually eat (organic) celery and carrots cuzz I have the same thing.  You can fill up your stomach with minimal calories and the celery has nitrates and I don't need to tell you what that means...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 12, 2012, 03:59:12 pm
I actually eat (organic) celery and carrots cuzz I have the same thing.  You can fill up your stomach with minimal calories and the celery has nitrates and I don't need to tell you what that means...
dang it!
I told my brother to get celery based on your advice
I knew that! I need to get some also

I am thinking about making a new thread abiout Dr Baylocks book, "Health and nutritional secrets", because I am reading it and I know I've read a lot of similar stuff on this site, http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Glutathione.aspx,  is just one of the topics

but also Dr B tells you to get enough Magnesium and other ways to combat excitotoxins... which you mention here about sleep http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Sleep2.aspx

my ex-med school phyisiology proff responded to my question of what be though of Blaylock/excitotoxins with:
"  I haven’t read Dr. Blaylock’s book, nor do I have any intention to. I don’t read stuff like that for pleasure. I think the topic of excitotoxins is potentially interesting, although the bit about glutamate in the diet is likely overblown.
From what I understand, it’s secondary metabolic production of glutamate at the level of neurons that does damage, not dietary ingestion of glutamate, like MSG in Chinese food.
Also, there’s nothing wrong with eating less meat. Throughout much of our history, grains and legumes were a more important source of protein than meat. Many people only ate meat on holidays or special occasions a couple of times a year. Affluence led to increased meat consumption, which is now regarded as de rigueur."
but Dr B says areas of the brain not protected by the BBB, such as the  hypothalamus, are very susceptible to damage,  I wonder if this is part of the reason why so many people have issues using their telekinetic  powers or require a sleeping pill/sleep issues?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 13, 2012, 03:02:51 pm

"  I haven’t read Dr. Blaylock’s book, nor do I have any intention to. I don’t read stuff like that for pleasure. I think the topic of excitotoxins is potentially interesting, although the bit about glutamate in the diet is likely overblown.
From what I understand, it’s secondary metabolic production of glutamate at the level of neurons that does damage, not dietary ingestion of glutamate, like MSG in Chinese food.

I can understand why he says what says.  After all, dosage is everything.  However, it is possible from what I have read to get enough to do a little damage from things like diet cokes and wheys, etc.  We really are ingesting multi-grams of the stuff and even common sense tells you that this isn't the brightest idea.

It kind of reminds me of putting a pesticide in our toothpaste.  Well, yes, dosage is everything, but how could anyone even think of doing that in the first place?!? 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 13, 2012, 07:43:22 pm
Split you:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=455.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 13, 2012, 07:45:56 pm
Split you:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=455.0
again? why I outta......
hmmm
ok so is this bad for me? ????


I think I can use elbow greese to get out the resiude from the water distiller, but I also dont think I get much/any of the citric acid, as I scrub and rinse the distiller pretty well
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 13, 2012, 07:57:05 pm

"  I haven’t read Dr. Blaylock’s book, nor do I have any intention to. I don’t read stuff like that for pleasure. I think the topic of excitotoxins is potentially interesting, although the bit about glutamate in the diet is likely overblown.
From what I understand, it’s secondary metabolic production of glutamate at the level of neurons that does damage, not dietary ingestion of glutamate, like MSG in Chinese food.

I can understand why he says what says.  After all, dosage is everything.  However, it is possible from what I have read to get enough to do a little damage from things like diet cokes and wheys, etc.  We really are ingesting multi-grams of the stuff and even common sense tells you that this isn't the brightest idea.

It kind of reminds me of putting a pesticide in our toothpaste.  Well, yes, dosage is everything, but how could anyone even think of doing that in the first place?!?
that stuff is in toothpastes for the same reason we are still allowing transfats in food and telling people it's zero transfats

doesnt anyone think its messed up that we bitch about healthcare and when we have a chance to inform people(letting them do whatever they want) we(the USDA/FDA) does not?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 14, 2012, 08:00:30 am

I think I can use elbow greese to get out the resiude from the water distiller, but I also dont think I get much/any of the citric acid, as I scrub and rinse the distiller pretty well

Don't sweat a couple of mg.  There's no way we can avoid some toxins:  we just have to do our best.

And remember:  the Okinawans give us hope!

Btw, Jack LaLanne ate tons of DDT-laden fruits and vegetables all his life and it never affected him.

Of course, he was superhuman!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 15, 2012, 11:57:01 am
I did the splits again:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=461.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 27, 2012, 07:15:04 am
Another great post.  Put it under "Safe Processed Foods"...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 27, 2012, 05:17:16 pm
I'm making foood following vegan recipes....when it calls for sugar, what can I use? all the splenda/stevia stuff is reported bad/toxic/excitotoxins,...shouldnt I just use brown sugar?
thoughts
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 28, 2012, 12:44:48 am
I'm making foood following vegan recipes....when it calls for sugar, what can I use? all the splenda/stevia stuff is reported bad/toxic/excitotoxins,...shouldnt I just use brown sugar?
thoughts

  Jack LaLanne has always sworn off all sugar.  To me this always seemed a little extreme as I always figured, like a lot of other sweet-a-holics, that "a carbohydrate was a carbohydrate".  Well, the research has come out overwhelmingly on his side.  Once again, he was spot on and science has recently discovered that sugar messes with your liver metabolism and your testosterone for starters.  Read this link on How Sugar Lowers Your Testosterone and Sabotages Your Sex Life for some details that will leave you wondering if Jack could be any more right..
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Glucose.aspx
a page that has one of my favorite PeakT's quotes, " What I'm trying to say that sugar can make you no brighter than Pavlov's dogs if you're not careful.  For a few minutes blast of endorphins, you can basically castrate yourself.  "

so what do I use? maybe  -Cinnamon.."You only want to buy true cinnamon, which is Ceylon Cinnamon."
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 28, 2012, 01:01:49 am
My friend is making thesee things
ttp://www.straightupfood.com/blog/2010/05/04/quinoa-cornbread/
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2008/08/chili-mac.html
http://foodsforlonglife.blogspot.com/2011/09/vegan-sugar-free-gluten-free-palisades.html

that call for sugar/stevia, but I dont want to use either ingredient, what to use? honey?
vinegar?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 28, 2012, 02:11:04 pm
My friend is making thesee things
ttp://www.straightupfood.com/blog/2010/05/04/quinoa-cornbread/
http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2008/08/chili-mac.html
http://foodsforlonglife.blogspot.com/2011/09/vegan-sugar-free-gluten-free-palisades.html

that call for sugar/stevia, but I dont want to use either ingredient, what to use? honey?
vinegar?

Honey is probably your best bet.  It seem to have some very good properties that they haven't totally figured out yet.

It may help with colitis:

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowAbstractBuch&ArtikelNr=64580&ProduktNr=228557
"Could Honey Have a Place in Colitis Therapy? Effects of Honey, Prednisolone, and Disulfiram on Inflammation, Nitric Oxide, and Free Radical Formation"

It may have antiinflammatory wound healting abilities:
"Honey: A Potent Agent for Wound Healing?"
http://journals.lww.com/jwocnonline/Abstract/2002/11000/Honey__A_Potent_Agent_for_Wound_Healing_.8.aspx

This list go on and on, but, as a natural food, we should not be surprised that it has many excellent properties.

That said, a little fructose, 25-50 grams per day, is probably okay as well...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on August 29, 2012, 05:38:21 am

That said, a little fructose, 25-50 grams per day, is probably okay as well...

doesnt that amount change based on the body?
like if you are doing doing 30mins of walking or hours of low cardio vs sitting on your butt watching tv

I also think how calories are eaten and where they go/what they do, is dependent on bodyfat percentage and what you have done recently(lifted weights vs cardio vs doing nothing)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on August 29, 2012, 07:33:02 am
Yes.  Good points.  Or at least I saw a study or two where the authors actually thought that extra fructose for athletes may actually be a good thing.  And you are a heavy exerciser right now, so that may apply to you.  I'm not sure they really know all the details on that though...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 02, 2012, 03:12:12 am
I would put this in the "what does Peak do?" thread but I cant find it

Peak, when you go out to eat, where do you go?   I used to love the places that had great bread,olive garden, pasta house,  etc
but now every place seems to be full of exotoxins.transfats or  tap water((I drink distilled)

I should spend the money I save on eating at home on a maid, but Im too frugal do that....but I am healthier eating at home
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 02, 2012, 06:51:39 am
I would put this in the "what does Peak do?" thread but I cant find it

Peak, when you go out to eat, where do you go?   I used to love the places that had great bread,olive garden, pasta house,  etc
but now every place seems to be full of exotoxins.transfats or  tap water((I drink distilled)

I should spend the money I save on eating at home on a maid, but Im too frugal do that....but I am healthier eating at home

I try not to do this too often but have noticed that, if I don't have too many calories, I can still eat out once per day or eat someone's cooking once per day, and still remind under 15% total fat.  So that's how I do it:  I will eat but a relatively few calories.  Not everyone may be satisfied with that philosophy though...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 02, 2012, 11:22:23 am

I would put this in the "what does Peak do?" thread but I cant find it

Peak, when you go out to eat, where do you go?   I used to love the places that had great bread,olive garden, pasta house,  etc
but now every place seems to be full of exotoxins.transfats or  tap water((I drink distilled)

I should spend the money I save on eating at home on a maid, but Im too frugal do that....but I am healthier eating at home

I try not to do this too often but have noticed that, if I don't have too many calories, I can still eat out once per day or eat someone's cooking once per day, and still remind under 15% total fat.  So that's how I do it:  I will eat but a relatively few calories.  Not everyone may be satisfied with that philosophy though...
how do you know the calories or fat?
I wasnt looking so much for dietary parameters, although useful, I was looking for concrete examples of where you go

I ask because you are the example for most of us her on PTest.com;
you dont eat meat, dont eat a lot/any processed carbs, so I have asked before what you eat and you gave me the vague, "wife's cooking", Im just looking for concrete things I can also do to emulate you!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 02, 2012, 11:42:01 am

how do you know the calories or fat?
I wasnt looking so much for dietary parameters, although useful, I was looking for concrete examples of where you go

I ask because you are the example for most of us her on PTest.com;
you dont eat meat, dont eat a lot/any processed carbs, so I have asked before what you eat and you gave me the vague, "wife's cooking", Im just looking for concrete things I can also do to emulate you!

We usually eat ethnic as we both LOVE ethnic food.  Indian, Mexican, Thai, Viatnamese.  My wife and I actually share a plate almost always.  So, if there's 600 calories on the plate, obviously I'll get 300 and not overshoot my fat content goals.  But that's why I didn't give specific examples, because I'm all over the map on that one.

As far as my wife's cooking, she is a vicious, no holds barred Mediterranean master chef.  Her stuff is good, so I have to resist not eating too much of it and it ain't easy!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 02, 2012, 12:36:51 pm

how do you know the calories or fat?
I wasnt looking so much for dietary parameters, although useful, I was looking for concrete examples of where you go

I ask because you are the example for most of us her on PTest.com;
you dont eat meat, dont eat a lot/any processed carbs, so I have asked before what you eat and you gave me the vague, "wife's cooking", Im just looking for concrete things I can also do to emulate you!

We usually eat ethnic as we both LOVE ethnic food.  Indian, Mexican, Thai, Viatnamese.  My wife and I actually share a plate almost always.  So, if there's 600 calories on the plate, obviously I'll get 300 and not overshoot my fat content goals.  But that's why I didn't give specific examples, because I'm all over the map on that one.

As far as my wife's cooking, she is a vicious, no holds barred Mediterranean master chef.  Her stuff is good, so I have to resist not eating too much of it and it ain't easy!
are you implying mcdonalds isnt ethinic? 
I need to date a cook. any good cook books to try?  I like sites that have recipes, I havent found many I like.....I've really gone off the deep end with fruits, I cant stand walnuts though, I stll get my efas from carlson labs....I do eat one processed food a lot though, when I am tired and I just want a snack
I dip these into organic catsup, no HFSC,etc
http://www.mummums.com/
Net Weight: 1.76 oz. (50g)
Ingredients: Japonica Rice*,
Sugar*, Potato Starch*, Sea Salt.
*NOP Certified Organic
May contain traces of mil
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-R85I5P1Pbrw/TokQvXyteEI/AAAAAAAAJ4k/XzPjWPDemoQ/s1600/51xZeEXTtkL._SL500_AA300_PIbundle-6%25252CTopRight%25252C0%25252C0_AA300_SH20_.jpg)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 02, 2012, 12:57:57 pm
Milk
my parents still drink it, I thought milk wasnt worth drinking?
is that wrong?

I tried to search this forum, but how to only search topic titles eludes me

nevermind I saw this
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Milk_Dangers.aspx

with my mom having estrogen-receptor-positive breast cancer+ cancer, she needs to avoid estrogen and takes aromatase inhibitor, I think she needs to stop drinking milk
Estrogens and Cancer.  You mama weaned you off of breast milk a long time ago and for good reason:  her breast milk is chock full of estrogens. Well, so is cow's milk and researchers have long noted that many types of hormone-related cancers, such as breast, testicular and prostate, are significantly higher in populations with high levels of milk and dairy consumption. [2]

One of the issues that affects estrogen levels in milk is the cow's stage of pregnancy. [8] Perhaps regulation can help one day with this issue, but in the meantime, a glass of milk may give you a lot more than you bargained for.  Again, isn't it ironic that two favorite beverages for men, milk and beer, are under fire for their estrogen-enhancing properties?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 02, 2012, 01:20:57 pm

are you implying mcdonalds isnt ethinic?
 

No.  I am dogmatically and publicly stating that McDonalds is not ethnic.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 02, 2012, 01:23:12 pm

I need to date a cook.

I really think this would help you a lot. 

But I would try to hang out at the deli at Whole Foods or Sprouts to meet your dream chef instead of the double doors to a kitchen at a Bistro...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 02, 2012, 01:26:51 pm
Milk
my parents still drink it, I thought milk wasnt worth drinking?
is that wrong?


I have admitted openly that I am a choco-ovo-vegetarian:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/About.aspx

However, I do not eat a lot of cheese nor milk.  Like you, I'm not a big fan of casein.

I also currently have whey every day and will continue to do so until I get those 18 inch biceps I've been building for the past 20 years.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 03, 2012, 02:34:44 am
Milk
my parents still drink it, I thought milk wasnt worth drinking?
is that wrong?


I have admitted openly that I am a choco-ovo-vegetarian:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/About.aspx

However, I do not eat a lot of cheese nor milk.  Like you, I'm not a big fan of casein.

I also currently have whey every day and will continue to do so until I get those 18 inch biceps I've been building for the past 20 years.

what is the name brand of the whey you use?
I am also in the process of enlarging my biceps to a larger size!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 03, 2012, 03:09:38 am
Im sticking to a low fat diet, is popcorn part of that diet
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Ornish_Diet.aspx

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Popcorn_Benefits.aspx

I make my popcorn(which is not the organic kernals,  because no one at the health store could explain why "organic" kernals were different than the cheap stufff I  bought
but I use an air popper
no oils, no salt, no nothing
I have about 4-5 cups a night
although this site says it has no fat, I thought airpopped popcorn had some?
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/snacks/5659/2


on FB, one of my friends said they were making popcorn  and some one said
Moron: Pop it conventionally, either in the microwave or on stovetop, using canola oil (has low fat content). Add salt to taste after popping. Butter not required, as the popcorn will feel slightly oily from the canola. Tastes good. Goes best with plenty of adult beverage of your choice.
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Watchntv: Use an air popper and I'd skip the canola oil While the Omega-6 oils are essential for good health, Americans have been shown to be consuming 50X the amount necessary for good health. These excess bad oils have been shown to increase inflammation, increase cancer development and growth, and increase the incidence of degenerative brain diseases. http://www.newportnutritionals.com/Nutrition-guide.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 03, 2012, 03:23:40 am
do milk jugs have bpa?

I thought they did not
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 03, 2012, 07:33:40 am

Watchntv: Use an air popper and I'd skip the canola oil While the Omega-6 oils are essential for good health, Americans have been shown to be consuming 50X the amount necessary for good health. These excess bad oils have been shown to increase inflammation, increase cancer development and growth, and increase the incidence of degenerative brain diseases. http://www.newportnutritionals.com/Nutrition-guide.html

If you look at the recipes in Ornish's The Spectrum, you will see that he sometimes makes use of avocado and even olive oil in small amounts. Dosage is everything.

Btw, you must see Forks Over Knives if you have not already.  It's on Netflix Instant Queue.  Just do it...

Saw it for first itme last night.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 03, 2012, 07:34:40 am
do milk jugs have bpa?

I thought they did not

Don't know for sure, but they probably have a little since the plastic is somethwat malleable.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 03, 2012, 02:41:22 pm
peak
I know to lose fat, you must eat fewer calories than you burn

in that vein, which of these foods would you consider the most valuable to eat

fruit
1 peaches
2 berries
3 apples
4 pinapple
5 mango
6 oranges
7 back grapes
8 watermelon
9 cantaloupe

veggies
1 broccoli
2 tomatoes
3 spinach
4 kale
5 celery
6 mustard
7 carrots
8 prunes?(or is that a fruit)
9 mustard(I figure tomatoes/catsup, then mustard....)

thanks



Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 03, 2012, 03:30:31 pm
peak
I know to lose fat, you must eat fewer calories than you burn

in that vein, which of these foods would you consider the most valuable to eat

fruit
1 peaches
2 berries
3 apples
4 pinapple
5 mango
6 oranges
7 back grapes
8 watermelon
9 cantaloupe

veggies
1 broccoli
2 tomatoes
3 spinach
4 kale
5 celery
6 mustard
7 carrots
8 prunes?(or is that a fruit)
9 mustard(I figure tomatoes/catsup, then mustard....)

thanks

You just listed 18 superfoods (or darn close) and you want me to pick the best one?!?  Let me ask you:  who was smarter, Einstein, Newton or Tesla?

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 03, 2012, 04:09:48 pm
peak
I know to lose fat, you must eat fewer calories than you burn

in that vein, which of these foods would you consider the most valuable to eat

fruit
1 peaches
2 berries
3 apples
4 pinapple
5 mango
6 oranges
7 back grapes
8 watermelon
9 cantaloupe

veggies
1 broccoli
2 tomatoes
3 spinach
4 kale
5 celery
6 mustard
7 carrots
8 prunes?(or is that a fruit)
9 mustard(I figure tomatoes/catsup, then mustard....)

thanks

You just listed 18 superfoods (or darn close) and you want me to pick the best one?!?  Let me ask you:  who was smarter, Einstein, Newton or Tesla?
I dunno, but back to the mik issue

my mom had boob cancer in 08 and it was Estogen  postive, so shes on armotase inhibitor,,, she drinks millk, gallon/week
after reading your site info about milk being pro-estrogen, she is off milk
I've been tellin her for years to get off milk and she finally is!
thanks to your site
thanks!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 04, 2012, 06:58:52 am

my mom had boob cancer in 08 and it was Estogen  postive, so shes on armotase inhibitor,,, she drinks millk, gallon/week
after reading your site info about milk being pro-estrogen, she is off milk
I've been tellin her for years to get off milk and she finally is!
thanks to your site
thanks!

Forks and Knives goes into Powell's research on casein, which, again, shows that casein can be pro-cancer.  Of course, cancer is very complex and based on many lifestyle factors, but it's best to play it safe when it comes to cancer.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 04, 2012, 07:27:32 am

my mom had boob cancer in 08 and it was Estogen  postive, so shes on armotase inhibitor,,, she drinks millk, gallon/week
after reading your site info about milk being pro-estrogen, she is off milk
I've been tellin her for years to get off milk and she finally is!
thanks to your site
thanks!

Forks and Knives goes into Powell's research on casein, which, again, shows that casein can be pro-cancer.  Of course, cancer is very complex and based on many lifestyle factors, but it's best to play it safe when it comes to cancer.
2 things
1st I'll watch Forks and knives later today, that Dr. Esselstyn has been on CNN a few times and doesnt seem likeable, but reasearch isnt about being likeable
2 lots of things cause cancer; people I know have given up trying anything to reduce the risk of getting cancer.  I told my mom for YEARS that being fat is pro-cancer...she didnt care enough to change...she is now..thanks to you...the MDs she has seen, including her cancer doctor never told her that he obesity was PRO-cancer...
this goes back to having to rely on reasearch, but also shows you must take care of yourself

3 this relates to a site I enjoy going to, majorgeeks, where I ran into a thread where someone said how the only way to lose weight was to cut out sugars, soda, bread/pasta
when I explained wrong they were, how you can eat whatever you want as long as calories burned is greater than calories eaten and you'll lose weight
they threw  fit and closed the thread
hilarious

I also posted this link about a prof who ate junk food and lost weight, improved his bodyfat, cholestrol and he ate less than he burned
but hey, they are good with computers and Im NOT a IT guy at all...
Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pound
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 04, 2012, 07:53:12 am

 Two very common questions I get on my forum are  "If I suspect low testosterone, what tests should I get?"  and "What testosterone tests will my doctor likely order?"

Unfortunately, there are many physicians out there still new to diagnosing and testing low testosterone and often important items get overlooked.  For this reason, until the medical community gets better up to speed as a whole, it is important for men to know the fundamentals of testosterine testing in order to ask important questions.

For this reason I have compiled what I call the 12 Common Tests for Men with Suspected Low Testosterone.  These testosterone tests are very important, because they can have such a strong and direct bearing on either a) testosterone levels or b) safe administration of Testosterone Therapy (HRT):

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Tests.aspx


I've looked at the tests and I was hoping you could either say
yes, get all those tests done

or
no, just get tests X, Y  Z done

Im 33 and I had a test of 320ish ng in January
I did a bunch of stuff from your site, including losing 65lb
May 2012, my testosterone total was  was 529ng, which is not the best at all,

I still have to lose more fat, I'll be done  10-5-12, and I'll get retested
or should I get the battery of test you mention in the link above?

I got a price quote from direct labs and its $594 for all those tests.... I think I'd have to get it at least 2x with 12 months to see where I am at based on crap I do
thoughts?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 04, 2012, 08:26:45 am
I can't really advise you on exact tests to take for a variety of reasons.  All I can do is tell you to read that material and discuss with your (hopefully pointy-headed) docs.  In general, though, the more testing you can afford the better. 

Remember that docs have to follow specific protocols and guidelines that are considered standard practice in order to not get hassled by the insurance companies and their patients when they don't get reimbursed.  So physicians tend to undertest imo because it is so administratively intensive to handle adhoc insurance situations.

However, the only negative aspect to getting tested is that if you get 20 lab results, one of them is bound to be a little low or a little high.  Some guys get very stressed over this.  But I still say it's better to be informed...

There is another negative aspect to self-monitoring some things:  how do you know you will interpret the results correctly?  Well, you may not of course, but if something is out of range, you can at least go to a good physician/naturopath/dietician and try to get answers and, of course, do some research on your own.

I would guess that you have a pretty good idea where you want to be at as far as testosterone.  However, what if your some of your thyroid readings are within range but on the low or high side.  This is a pretty involved subject.  Some thing with prolactin and many other things.

But I think I know you and you're going to try to pin me down on exactly which tests to take.  Well, before you try to do that, stop and think of the dozen reasons that I cannot possibly tell you specifics.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 04, 2012, 08:48:05 am
I can't really advise you on exact tests to take for a variety of reasons.  All I can do is tell you to read that material and discuss with your (hopefully pointy-headed) docs.  In general, though, the more testing you can afford the better. 

Remember that docs have to follow specific protocols and guidelines that are considered standard practice in order to not get hassled by the insurance companies and their patients when they don't get reimbursed.  So physicians tend to undertest imo because it is so administratively intensive to handle adhoc insurance situations.

However, the only negative aspect to getting tested is that if you get 20 lab results, one of them is bound to be a little low or a little high.  Some guys get very stressed over this.  But I still say it's better to be informed...

There is another negative aspect to self-monitoring some things:  how do you know you will interpret the results correctly?  Well, you may not of course, but if something is out of range, you can at least go to a good physician/naturopath/dietician and try to get answers and, of course, do some research on your own.

I would guess that you have a pretty good idea where you want to be at as far as testosterone.  However, what if your some of your thyroid readings are within range but on the low or high side.  This is a pretty involved subject.  Some thing with prolactin and many other things.

But I think I know you and you're going to try to pin me down on exactly which tests to take.  Well, before you try to do that, stop and think of the dozen reasons that I cannot possibly tell you specifics.
testing for various hormones is different than  trying to find out what the heck you eat, etc
time of day, shirt Im wearing, how life is affecting me all can play roles into what the tests say,

you wrote what I should do, and said why...basically my post was me saying, "reallly?naww, what do you REALLY Mean?"

so my post deserved a GO READ WHAT I WROTE type response.. the above response I got was way nice and I appreciate it.

I'll let you know what happens...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 05, 2012, 05:18:41 am
I know Peak listed some foods that were better to buy organic(apples were on that list)
I saw the article below questioning whether organic was safer/better than non-organic?

Do the sites that say eat these foods as organic based, such as 12 Foods to Eat Organic http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/05/25/12-foods-to-eat-organic/ ,  on science or just "playing it safe" and avoiding man-made chemicals?


Organic better?
, Stanford University doctors dug through reams of research to find out - and concluded there's little evidence that going organic is much healthier, citing only a few differences involving pesticides and antibiotics.

Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children - but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday.

Nor did the organic foods prove more nutritious.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/03/3794846/study-questions-how-much-better.html#storylink=cpy

Going organic could lead to a letdown, researchers find
Evidence that the natural foods offer a real nutritional advantage is scanty.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/05/3797244/going-organic-could-lead-to-letdown.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/05/3797244/going-organic-could-lead-to-letdown.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 05, 2012, 07:11:36 am
Yeah, I saw all the press coverage at the gym yesterday about this latest study.

It's hard for me to get too excited about it all to be honest.  And the reason is that I live right by a Trader Joes!  Trader Joe's has vaporized the only reasonable argument against organic if you ask me:  cost.

The studies show that organic are as nutritious or, in some case, more nutritious than conventional.  So then the question boils down to cost:  is it worth it to pay the sometimes exhorbitant prices?

I think Trader Joe's has cut the cost low enough to where that should not be an issue.  Of course, everyone has to decide for themselves, but the classic example is pomegranate juice:  you can now buy a big bottle of organic pom juice for $3.99 at Trader Joe's that will last you and the family for 4 or 5 days.  To me it's a no brainer.

So that's my take on it:  organic will greatly lower all the flouride pesticides chipping away at your thyroid, the endocrine disruptors lowering your testosterone a little, etc.  Why risk it?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 06, 2012, 12:11:25 am
Yeah, I saw all the press coverage at the gym yesterday about this latest study.

It's hard for me to get too excited about it all to be honest.  And the reason is that I live right by a Trader Joes!  Trader Joe's has vaporized the only reasonable argument against organic if you ask me:  cost.

The studies show that organic are as nutriti
ous or, in some case, more nutritious than conventional.  So then the question boils down to cost:  is it worth it to pay the sometimes exhorbitant prices?

I think Trader Joe's has cut the cost low enough to where that should not be an issue.  Of course, everyone has to decide for themselves, but the classic example is pomegranate juice:  you can now buy a big bottle of organic pom juice for $3.99 at Trader Joe's that will last you and the family for 4 or 5 days.  To me it's a no brainer.

So that's my take on it:  organic will greatly lower all the flouride pesticides chipping away at your thyroid, the endocrine disruptors lowering your testosterone a little, etc.  Why risk it?

I didnt realize you worked out at a gym?  I thought having kids/wife/running this site/dealing with me was more than enough to give you a workout. :o

You have an interesting take on those studies. I half agree with you
The other half wonders who paid to have those results published in newspapers?  surely it's not FRONT PAGE news that organic food isnt better than real food?
I never recall front page news about trans fats still being in our foods,  fluoride being bad for you, or any of Dr Blaylocks research.

I also question the accuracy/validity of those studies.   how is it that a little bit of pesticides, poison,  has no measurable effect compared to no poisons?
I'd like to read ANY of the studies they did...none are provided.

This is also a story from the same government that says I can smoke and drink alcohol, but I can't give myself ephedrine or 6-OXO /estrogen blockers that work...


Seems that this propaganda is the same BS that keeps a lid on how foods contrain trans fats even when the label tells me it's transfat free.
I might as well buy a car that I'm told will last 50,000K miles, but small print says 30k miles will blow up...


Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 06, 2012, 06:12:52 am

I didnt realize you worked out at a gym?  I thought having kids/wife/running this site/dealing with me was more than enough to give you a workout. :o

You have an interesting take on those studies. I half agree with you
The other half wonders who paid to have those results published in newspapers?  surely it's not FRONT PAGE news that organic food isnt better than real food?
I never recall front page news about trans fats still being in our foods,  fluoride being bad for you, or any of Dr Blaylocks research.

I also question the accuracy/validity of those studies.   how is it that a little bit of pesticides, poison,  has no measurable effect compared to no poisons?
I'd like to read ANY of the studies they did...none are provided.

This is also a story from the same government that says I can smoke and drink alcohol, but I can't give myself ephedrine or 6-OXO /estrogen blockers that work...


Seems that this propaganda is the same BS that keeps a lid on how foods contrain trans fats even when the label tells me it's transfat free.
I might as well buy a car that I'm told will last 50,000K miles, but small print says 30k miles will blow up...
Yes, but the counterargument is this:

Most degenerative disease can be explained by things like excess weight, smoking, being sedentary and the "big sins".   Some researchers think that things like pesticides have negligible and often unprovable effects on overall health. 

They may be right to a certain extent.  The Okinawans never worried about organic.  Jack LaLanne thought worrying about pesticides was utter foolishness and he was the picture of health.  (He may have been superhuman however.)  His exact words were "It's a bunch of bull."

http://www.shareguide.com/LaLanne.html

However, I think there is now ample evidence out there that pesticides and toxins do indeed have a  negative impact on health and, obviously, give considerable coverage to that on my site...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 09, 2012, 02:36:54 pm

I didnt realize you worked out at a gym?  I thought having kids/wife/running this site/dealing with me was more than enough to give you a workout. :o

You have an interesting take on those studies. I half agree with you
The other half wonders who paid to have those results published in newspapers?  surely it's not FRONT PAGE news that organic food isnt better than real food?
I never recall front page news about trans fats still being in our foods,  fluoride being bad for you, or any of Dr Blaylocks research.

I also question the accuracy/validity of those studies.   how is it that a little bit of pesticides, poison,  has no measurable effect compared to no poisons?
I'd like to read ANY of the studies they did...none are provided.

This is also a story from the same government that says I can smoke and drink alcohol, but I can't give myself ephedrine or 6-OXO /estrogen blockers that work...


Seems that this propaganda is the same BS that keeps a lid on how foods contrain trans fats even when the label tells me it's transfat free.
I might as well buy a car that I'm told will last 50,000K miles, but small print says 30k miles will blow up...
Yes, but the counterargument is this:

Most degenerative disease can be explained by things like excess weight, smoking, being sedentary and the "big sins".   Some researchers think that things like pesticides have negligible and often unprovable effects on overall health. 

They may be right to a certain extent.  The Okinawans never worried about organic.  Jack LaLanne thought worrying about pesticides was utter foolishness and he was the picture of health.  (He may have been superhuman however.)  His exact words were "It's a bunch of bull."

http://www.shareguide.com/LaLanne.html

However, I think there is now ample evidence out there that pesticides and toxins do indeed have a  negative impact on health and, obviously, give considerable coverage to that on my site...


I saw a kid spraying the cracks in his driveway with poison and I know my HOA hires a lawn service that sprays my yard with poison; that kid wasnt wearing anything protective and I Dont wear protective gear when I walk near my poisoned bushes(which are dying).
so I'm doing what I can to myself to become like Jack, aka superhuman


I take 4-5 oz of pom juice with 2-3grams omega 3s, 2x a day
eat 200-250 grams protien
eat 2 green drinks(2lbs of broccoli,  spinach, blueberries)
dessrt is usally grapes(black) and watermelon/3-4 cups air popped popcorn(plains)

this is all part of me having gone to an ultra low fat diet. I think
I get my 3-4grams of omega 3s from carlsons Unflavored fish oil. and I will eat air popped popcorn 3 -4cups a night
otherwise I dont eat fat

my goal is to get my weight down to 180(10% bodyfat) in 3 weeks
and get my total cholestrol 248(mg/dl),
LDL, 162
(I last had it tested 9  months/70lbs ago)
down to below the high levels by Nov 1 when I'll get a full blood/test level test again
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Tests.aspx
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 09, 2012, 03:49:33 pm

this is all part of me having gone to an ultra low fat diet.

Don't go too low on the fat.  The Pritikin Diet has become very successful, but, originally, it struggled because they went too in fat.  You don't want to go too low with those essential fatty acids.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 09, 2012, 04:08:00 pm

this is all part of me having gone to an ultra low fat diet.

Don't go too low on the fat.  The Pritikin Diet has become very successful, but, originally, it struggled because they went too in fat.  You don't want to go too low with those essential fatty acids.
omegs -3s are the essientals
I get 6-9 grams of them/day via carlsons unflavored fish oil
From what I understand, that is plenty
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 10, 2012, 06:09:51 am

this is all part of me having gone to an ultra low fat diet.

Don't go too low on the fat.  The Pritikin Diet has become very successful, but, originally, it struggled because they went too in fat.  You don't want to go too low with those essential fatty acids.
omegs -3s are the essientals
I get 6-9 grams of them/day via carlsons unflavored fish oil
From what I understand, that is plenty

Low Fat is usually around 10% total fat.  For a normal guy eating 2500 calories per day that's about 250 calories from fat or about 28 total grams of fat per day.  Pritikin, the original Ornish and Esselstyn dietary regimens all are right around this level.

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 10, 2012, 07:46:18 am


Low Fat is usually around 10% total fat.  For a normal guy eating 2500 calories per day that's about 250 calories from fat or about 28 total grams of fat per day.  Pritikin, the original Ornish and Esselstyn dietary regimens all are right around this level.
why not go "too low" on a low fat diet?

I get my efas(9-10 gms)
omegs -3s are the essentials
w-3 are the real nutritional powerhouses with the fish oils
(EPA and DHA  have a profoundly beneficial effect on human health and fat loss. If I listed all of the known good effects of fish oils, you’d think I was making it up but the research is there. On the rapid fat loss diet, w-3’s should be about the only fat you
eat with pre formed fish oil capsules being the preferred form and flax oil being a distant second (for
people who just can’t handle the capsules).

I get 6-9 grams of them/day via carlsons unflavored fish oil(no flax seed as that has a conversion issue)
From what I understand, that is plenty

I dont much like  your"how to diet page"

the page talks about High-Intensity Training. is very prone to injury and men who are trying to get into shape should be forewarned that they should have 6-12 weeks of training under their belts.  moving from a  sedentary  life to running, etc in bursts 3x a week isnt at all smart or ideal

the page doesnt it doesnt talk about doing walking, which it should as your site mentions walking a few times in a great way.

the page says "  In other words, forget dieting -just eat the right way!"

we have talked about how food is  a drug, and what makes avoiding addiction to that drug is how people must eat
so thinking that somehow we can NOT diet and "just eat right" is close to telling someone "dont quit smoking, just dont smoke. lala de la"
diet needs to be something people take into consideration as you dont just "take drugs", you take drugs for a certain reason. food is a drug and should be taken for a reason.  somewhere you mention in a wellwritten manner how food isnt something we should just eat for fun or comfort...I thinkthats from the Erectile strength ebook?

why do I want more fat?  I get about 10% calories from fat, but its almost all  omega 3s, I do get some fat from the caca(navitas) powder.

I eat about 900-1200 calories so 10% of calories is 90-120,

Id really like to see the research about how eating late at night caused this statement,....

 " found that late night snacks affect metabolism negatively and lead to greater weight gain. [21]  Mice fed late at night gained over twice as much weight as mice fed during regular feeding hours. "

so late at night the laws of physics are too tired to be applied? 1calorie =10 calories?  can you send me the study, I can't get it.

eating, the reason why you gain or lose weight(as the number of calories burned(how much you can eat and lose weight is determined by other factors, working out, walking/HIIT. bodyfat percentage, etc.

I dont eat many calories and I burn a lot of calories, so with the additon of DRUZ, I have a high deficit.

With the exception of peas, carrots and corn, and beets (the starchy vegetables which contain a lot of carbohydrate) which
are off limits usually,  I eat basically an unlimited amount of vegetables, which means I dont count calories from the 2lbs of broccolli I eat,   I will get a concrete number for myself later of  calories

the pomegranate juice(which I also use as mouthwash!) is full of calories, so I take it before I workout(weights/walking)

I dont eat a lot of carbs on most days,, I see no reason to eat so many calories, as Im dieting till  10-5-12, afterwards,I will go on a diet break for 2 weeks, eat  carbs to up-regulate all the whoremoans, TSH, testosterone, awesomeness, etc.

I use various drugs:
DNP  to increase my BMR(11%/100mg),
EC stack:
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000002.htm
increase my Sympathetic nervous system(Which impairs erection ability to an extent) which helps me retain muscle and increaes BMR minimally(3%)

Bromocriptine" prevents a drop in leptin as it act like Dopamine in the brain, making the brain not know how much I am killing my body(brain thinks dieting-starvation) and so it doesnt do the drop in everything to reduce my BMR, increase muscle loss, etc

my  low calorie diet(nearly a ketogenic diet helps retain muscle, lose fat,  lowers blood pressure(from the loss of carbs from diet)

exercise wise

I lift 3x8 heavy sets, fulll body 3x a week  to help retain muscle
I do 2-3 hours of walking/recumbent bike, which is possible only because I take DNP, otherwise my metabolism would drop and I'd lose muscle
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 10, 2012, 12:57:22 pm
Whoa!  Are you saying I need an editor?!?

This is all I know:  supposedly Pritikin initially got some of his followers in the early days into trouble by going too low on the fat.  Admittedly, I don't know the details.  Just passing along info.  If you find anything out, let us know...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 10, 2012, 02:45:16 pm
Whoa!  Are you saying I need an editor?!?

This is all I know:  supposedly Pritikin initially got some of his followers in the early days into trouble by going too low on the fat.  Admittedly, I don't know the details.  Just passing along info.  If you find anything out, let us know...

editor?   you mean why I dont like that page?  no, I dont care about editing, I pointed out the info I'd change

nothing to know about why add fat, there is no reason to, I get my w-3s, thats enough
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 21, 2012, 08:02:14 am
Im in class, listening to lecture, taking notes
the girl next to me pulls out a chocolate PROTEIN BAR and unwraps the bar and sits on her desk
she takes a chunch now and then

the stench of chocolate fills the air

she rustles the wrapper everytime she breaks off a part of it

after class, I ask her if shes diabetic
she says no
I ask her why shes eating in class and not the 47 hours before or after class when no one is around?
I DONT SMOKE IN CLass, I  pay money to learn things
she doesnt say a word and just leaves

some people should be killed
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 21, 2012, 09:34:56 am


editor?   you mean why I dont like that page?  no, I dont care about editing, I pointed out the info I'd change

nothing to know about why add fat, there is no reason to, I get my w-3s, thats enough

Btw, and this is strictly info - no big messages here - but just passing along info:

1) Bernard  (Dr. Neil) is in your camp:  he thinks one only needs a few grams of fat per day or at least that was my interpretation of something he wrote in his reversing diabetes book. 

2) Bernand actually is cautious about fish oil because it does  have quite a bit of saturated fat in it.

I know that the less saturated fat and total fat I eat, the better I feel in many ways.  But that just feels a little too extreme to me though.  I try to get keep total fat in the 10-15% range.  I'd love to know what he bases the above on...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 21, 2012, 10:25:05 am


editor?   you mean why I dont like that page?  no, I dont care about editing, I pointed out the info I'd change

nothing to know about why add fat, there is no reason to, I get my w-3s, thats enough

Btw, and this is strictly info - no big messages here - but just passing along info:

1) Bernard  (Dr. Neil) is in your camp:  he thinks one only needs a few grams of fat per day or at least that was my interpretation of something he wrote in his reversing diabetes book. 

2) Bernand actually is cautious about fish oil because it does  have quite a bit of saturated fat in it.

I know that the less saturated fat and total fat I eat, the better I feel in many ways.  But that just feels a little too extreme to me though.  I try to get keep total fat in the 10-15% range.  I'd love to know what he bases the above on...


Excessive fish oil can impair the body’s ability to mount a proper immune response, as well as impairing insulin release.
Some work has identified that the body will hit a limit (in terms of plasma saturation) on DHA at 1.2 grams per day which is the equivalent of 10X1 gram fish oil capsules. That would also provide 1.8 grams EPA for a total of 3 grams per day of fish oil
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 22, 2012, 01:29:12 pm

2) Bernand actually is cautious about fish oil because it does  have quite a bit of saturated fat in it.

I know that the less saturated fat and total fat I eat, the better I feel in many ways.  But that just feels a little too extreme to me though.  I try to get keep total fat in the 10-15% range.  I'd love to know what he bases the above on...

I agree, as I have mentioned/asked about that before
in the vien of if saturated fat elevates test levels, would W-3s also elevate test levels?

I think its more total calories than  what those calories are made of
are you gaining weight or losing weight which is the main cause of increased or decreased test  levels
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 22, 2012, 03:00:55 pm

I think its more total calories than  what those calories are made of
are you gaining weight or losing weight which is the main cause of increased or decreased test  levels

This is really an interesting statement here. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 22, 2012, 03:01:56 pm

I know that the less saturated fat and total fat I eat, the better I feel in many ways.  But that just feels a little too extreme to me though.  I try to get keep total fat in the 10-15% range.  I'd love to know what he bases the above on...

I agree, as I have mentioned/asked about that before
in the vien of if saturated fat elevates test levels, would W-3s also elevate test levels?

[/quote]

Can't prove this, but I think they may increase free testosterone a little.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 22, 2012, 03:19:47 pm

I know that the less saturated fat and total fat I eat, the better I feel in many ways.  But that just feels a little too extreme to me though.  I try to get keep total fat in the 10-15% range.  I'd love to know what he bases the above on...

I agree, as I have mentioned/asked about that before
in the vien of if saturated fat elevates test levels, would W-3s also elevate test levels?


Can't prove this, but I think they may increase free testosterone a little.
[/quote]
thats one of those things that bugs me
we arent doing the proper expirimenting
we make laws that are BS, trans fat need to be outlawed.  serving size should equal the whole product.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 22, 2012, 03:37:09 pm
trans fat need to be outlawed. 
One of the requirements for a working democracy is that you give people the freedom to self-destruct...

serving size should equal the whole product.

Amen, brother.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 22, 2012, 07:48:38 pm
trans fat need to be outlawed. 
One of the requirements for a working democracy is that you give people the freedom to self-destruct...

then why dont we have posion, thats unlabled, in food?
hmm?



serving size should equal the whole product.

Amen, brother.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 25, 2012, 04:59:25 pm
The egg whites I eat have 50 grams protien and 30% of the sodium I need daily....
I eat 5, so I get 250grams protien and 150% of the sodium I need daily, crap

how do I get the protien without the sodium?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 25, 2012, 07:14:04 pm
The egg whites I eat have 50 grams protien and 30% of the sodium I need daily....
I eat 5, so I get 250grams protien and 150% of the sodium I need daily, crap

how do I get the protien without the sodium?

Whoa!  Wait a minute. 

To me it looks like you're saying that you eat 250 grams of egg white protein per day?

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 25, 2012, 09:50:14 pm
The egg whites I eat have 50 grams protien and 30% of the sodium I need daily....
I eat 5, so I get 250grams protien and 150% of the sodium I need daily, crap

how do I get the protien without the sodium?

Whoa!  Wait a minute. 

To me it looks like you're saying that you eat 250 grams of egg white protein per day?
sometimes I do
I lift weights and do about 1 hour of walking a day
I dont know anything wrong with a large intake of protein. likely cause there isn't.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 25, 2012, 10:40:00 pm
I  saw the New York TImes wrote

Obesity is the primary risk factor for Type 2 diabetes, yet sizable numbers of normal-weight people also develop the disease. Why?

how do I avoid diabetes?
following a Peak Type diet, right?

what about the enviromental factors?what are they?

BTW,
did anyone notice Wendys stopped lying to us about who "wendy" really is?
we all were told she was this hotish redhead, but truth is she is NOT

wonder if she eats a Peak-type diet?  :o
(http://mthruf.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/job-fails-nope-too-american-for-our-ad-campaign.jpg)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 25, 2012, 11:37:21 pm
sometimes I do
I lift weights and do about 1 hour of walking a day
I dont know anything wrong with a large intake of protein. likely cause there isn't.

I never noticed that - kind of interesting - about the sodium in eggs.  Learn something new every day...

Well, that's a hellacious amount of protein and I'm not an NFL lineman, so I'm not totally sure. 

However, I am proud to report that my Nutrabiotic Rice Protein has only 20 mg of sodium per 24 grams of protein.  So I supposed that would help.  But I'm not sure I'd recommend 12 servings every day:  rice allergies aren't that uncommon after all.

And my undenatured whey is also likely low sodium, but the stuff is so powerful at detoxing that I'm not sure I'd recommend megadosing.

So I guess I'd check the egg protein powders if you haven't done that already as perhaps one of them has removed the sodium?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 25, 2012, 11:41:43 pm

how do I avoid diabetes?
following a Peak Type diet, right?


You're darn right!  Did you know Neil Bernard, a Low Fat guru, has out-low carbed the Low Carbers?

http://www.amazon.com/Neal-Barnards-Program-Reversing-Diabetes/dp/1594868107/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348641458&sr=8-1&keywords=bernard+diabetes

That's right.  Here's what his studies show:

1.  A low glycemic low fat diet reverses diabetes.
2.  A low glycemic low fat diet naturally leads to one pound lost per week without any effort.

So you lose very naturally a pound per week while you say 'bye bye' to your blood sugar and diabetes issues.  And you get arteries so clean your coroner will check to see if it's really you or your teenage son.

It doesn't get any better than that I'm afraid...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 25, 2012, 11:47:31 pm
sometimes I do
I lift weights and do about 1 hour of walking a day
I dont know anything wrong with a large intake of protein. likely cause there isn't.

I never noticed that - kind of interesting - about the sodium in eggs.  Learn something new every day...

Well, that's a hellacious amount of protein and I'm not an NFL lineman, so I'm not totally sure. 

However, I am proud to report that my Nutrabiotic Rice Protein has only 20 mg of sodium per 24 grams of protein.  So I supposed that would help.  But I'm not sure I'd recommend 12 servings every day:  rice allergies aren't that uncommon after all.

And my undenatured whey is also likely low sodium, but the stuff is so powerful at detoxing that I'm not sure I'd recommend megadosing.

So I guess I'd check the egg protein powders if you haven't done that already as perhaps one of them has removed the sodium?
I need about 210grams a day, but I am going to skim down and add Nutrabiotic Rice Protein to my diet, thanks for the name of something I can use
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 25, 2012, 11:55:47 pm

I need about 210grams a day, but I am going to skim down and add Nutrabiotic Rice Protein to my diet, thanks for the name of something I can use

Forget that and spend your money on this instead.  I told my wife if I can't have a Corvette, I want one of these along with your water distiller and Bubba's Jerky Maker:


https://secure.vitamix.com/7500.aspx

An Evolution in Design and Performance

   The 7500 offers you everything you have come to love from Vitamix, as well as special new features, including:
      - Greater than 2 horsepower motor to process dense ingredients with ease
   - Vibration dampening technology for quieter performance
   - Ultra-responsive Variable Speed Dial and Pulse feature for precise
recipe creation
   - 64-ounce container designed to fit under most kitchen cabinets
   Experience the new Vitamix 7500 for yourself by ordering online today.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 25, 2012, 11:59:18 pm

how do I avoid diabetes?
following a Peak Type diet, right?


You're darn right!  Did you know Neil Bernard, a Low Fat guru, has out-low carbed the Low Carbers?

http://www.amazon.com/Neal-Barnards-Program-Reversing-Diabetes/dp/1594868107/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348641458&sr=8-1&keywords=bernard+diabetes

That's right.  Here's what his studies show:

1.  A low glycemic low fat diet reverses diabetes.
2.  A low glycemic low fat diet naturally leads to one pound lost per week without any effort.

So you lose very naturally a pound per week while you say 'bye bye' to your blood sugar and diabetes issues.  And you get arteries so clean your coroner will check to see if it's really you or your teenage son.

It doesn't get any better than that I'm afraid...
interesting
 low glycemic low fat diet reverses diabetes as opposed to just a caloric deficit?

this guy kept track of his calories and tracked  and everything went down and he just ate junk food
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

I was on a different board and they told me You cant lose weight unless you eat no sugar and no processed foods, I dont agree with that and showed them this link and I've done similar stuff myself.....
I dont know about clearing arteries or reducing inflammation, I thought the body treated food differently depending on whether it was in caloric deficit or not, I have no proof of that though.
Ideally, I think you'd want to gain mass(muscle) eating a Peak diet
and when you lose fat, it doesnt matter what you eat, you are still losing weight..but I dont know that for sure
any thoughts other than
"rather safe than sorry"?


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Prof-Haubs-Diet-Experiments/152304481454281
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 26, 2012, 12:05:53 am

I need about 210grams a day, but I am going to skim down and add Nutrabiotic Rice Protein to my diet, thanks for the name of something I can use

Forget that and spend your money on this instead.  I told my wife if I can't have a Corvette, I want one of these along with your water distiller and Bubba's Jerky Maker:


https://secure.vitamix.com/7500.aspx

An Evolution in Design and Performance

   The 7500 offers you everything you have come to love from Vitamix, as well as special new features, including:
      - Greater than 2 horsepower motor to process dense ingredients with ease
   - Vibration dampening technology for quieter performance
   - Ultra-responsive Variable Speed Dial and Pulse feature for precise
recipe creation
   - 64-ounce container designed to fit under most kitchen cabinets
   Experience the new Vitamix 7500 for yourself by ordering online today.

I cant see a difference in how that is different than what I have now
I have the 5200 and I just dont see much of a difference, maybe the PULSE is different, but I never blend that long, I blend about 1.5lbs of veggies and it never takes that long(as long as I have it filled with distilled water)
http://gotgreensrevolution.com/blog/vitamix-7500-review/
I see no reason to buy it over the 5200

Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 26, 2012, 01:35:51 am

I need about 210grams a day, but I am going to skim down and add Nutrabiotic Rice Protein to my diet, thanks for the name of something I can use
Nutrabiotic Rice Protein has a bit of iron in it
thoughts on too much iron?
I think I should give blood as much as I can so I dont have high iron...thoughts?

http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v50/n14/research.html

Following a traumatic event--such as an accident, a stroke, a heart attack or even surgery--heme floods the spaces between and inside cells and exacerbates the damage. It does so by shutting down an important cell membrane channel, an action that kills neurons and constricts blood vessels. While investigating this process, the researchers also determined that a chemical called NS1619 restores the function of the cell membrane channel. NS1619 and its derivatives could be the source for a new drug--one that prevents the secondary events that worsen trauma damage.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 26, 2012, 06:50:46 am

 Nutrabiotic Rice Protein has a bit of iron in it
thoughts on too much iron?
I think I should give blood as much as I can so I dont have high iron...thoughts?

http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v50/n14/research.html

Following a traumatic event--such as an accident, a stroke, a heart attack or even surgery--heme floods the spaces between and inside cells and exacerbates the damage. It does so by shutting down an important cell membrane channel, an action that kills neurons and constricts blood vessels. While investigating this process, the researchers also determined that a chemical called NS1619 restores the function of the cell membrane channel. NS1619 and its derivatives could be the source for a new drug--one that prevents the secondary events that worsen trauma damage.

Well, here's the beef:  iron in red meat is called heme iron and tends to accumulate in tissues and can cause oxidative damage and heart issues.  Plant-based iron is non-heme iron and passes much more easily from your system.  Should you ingest vast quantities of plant-based iron just to test this out?  Well, I don't know if I'd go that far

But you seem like you're willing to go where angels fear to tread.  You've got to realize that you're consuming as much protein as the typical, balls-to-the-wall hardcore 200 pound bodybuilder.  I expect to see the photos of some 18 inch guns here in a few months!
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 26, 2012, 07:01:04 am

interesting
 low glycemic low fat diet reverses diabetes as opposed to just a caloric deficit?


Wait.  Let me go back to this.  One thing that most people don't realize about a Low Fat Diet is that it is low in fat.  This means that you feel up your gut and feel full but there's little fat in your gut.  You walk away from the table with a potato and some rice protein in your stomach but you've only got 300 calories in your stomach instead of 600.

So, actually, Low Fat is a way to feel full and yet you're slightly below baseline in calories and you lose weight almost effortlessly.  This is how I've lost weight over the last about 6-8 weeks. 

Ironically, my wife noticed this more than any other health-related thing I've done in my life.  If you have discovered a way to lose weight, you've got almost any female's attention, eh?  (She also likes my smoothies.) 

I go through periods where I am probably around 15% fat due to chocolate consumption, a few sunflower seeds (for the Panthothenic acid), etc.  But I just cut these out and scarcely noticed.  The pounds just slowly came off.  And I maintain that I've built a little muscle on the way, although I can't prove that.  But I definitely know I haven't lost muscle:  I'm definitely lifting more weight than I did when I started...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 26, 2012, 08:52:49 am
fyi:

See my comments about the rice protein:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=560.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 26, 2012, 03:00:00 pm

Well, here's the beef:  iron in red meat is called heme iron and tends to accumulate in tissues and can cause oxidative damage and heart issues.  Plant-based iron is non-heme iron and passes much more easily from your system.  Should you ingest vast quantities of plant-based iron just to test this out?  Well, I don't know if I'd go that far

But you seem like you're willing to go where angels fear to tread.  You've got to realize that you're consuming as much protein as the typical, balls-to-the-wall hardcore 200 pound bodybuilder.  I expect to see the photos of some 18 inch guns here in a few months!


a "hardcore 200lbs bodybuilder" does more than consume 250grams protein to get 18inch guns.... you need to realize I lost 68lbs of fat in 10 weeks and no muscle loss because of eating enough protein and taking drugs..and protein should be at the foudation of the fda food pyrimad, not sugar

I eat protien because I eat about 0-50carbs, so to do the activity I do and not lose protein(muscle) I should eat about 210grams, I eat between 200-250 because my main source of protein comes in increments of 50grams

so you are saying plant iron is safer than meat iron?
what is this based on?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 26, 2012, 03:16:25 pm
Based on Bernard.  Here is a quote:

"Iron is a double-edged sword...But too much iron can be toxic.  It can increase the risk of heart problems and may even worsent insulin resistance.  Iron encourages the production of unstable molecules called free radicals...Your body easily absorbs the [non-heme] form when it's in need of more iron, but the iron passes harmless out of the body when you have all you need.  In contrast, meats contain heme iron, which is like an uninvited guest at your party:  it barges in whether you need it or not.  Over the long run, meat eaters tend to accumulate too much iron."
           --Dr Bernard's Program for Reversing Diabetes, p. 68

Nice fact page if you are int'd on, "Do vegetarians get enough iron?"
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm
Wiki paints a little bleaker picture, though, if u r int'd.

Might have to do with the protein in meat itself as they increase absorption of nonheme:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17056805

And this may cause oxidative stress with aging:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002865
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 26, 2012, 03:49:44 pm
Based on Bernard.  Here is a quote:

"Iron is a double-edged sword...But too much iron can be toxic.  It can increase the risk of heart problems and may even worsent insulin resistance.  Iron encourages the production of unstable molecules called free radicals...Your body easily absorbs the [non-heme] form when it's in need of more iron, but the iron passes harmless out of the body when you have all you need.  In contrast, meats contain heme iron, which is like an uninvited guest at your party:  it barges in whether you need it or not.  Over the long run, meat eaters tend to accumulate too much iron."
           --Dr Bernard's Program for Reversing Diabetes, p. 68

Nice fact page if you are int'd on, "Do vegetarians get enough iron?"
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/iron.htm
Wiki paints a little bleaker picture, though, if u r int'd.

Might have to do with the protein in meat itself as they increase absorption of nonheme:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17056805

And this may cause oxidative stress with aging:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002865

I hate reading peples opinions with no facts to back up what they say...you might as well, just yell out, SUGAR IS BAD FOR YOU.....but as most things in science, it depends

But iron isnt all that hard to understand; iron accumulates in the male body
iron is tightly controlled most being in the form of hemeoglobin(65%) and then myoglobin(35%) extra iron that is absorbed gets stored in the cells as ferritin and lesser as hemosiderin.
low blood iron causes release of ferritin iron. iron is needed to make RBCs and well as B12, ironically you store enough B12 to last you 3-4years before delveloping anemia.

really iron is regulated in the body by how much is absorbed. usually a few mg's a day are absorbed, however when you need iron your body will absorb a lot more(like 3 grams a day)

the problem I have is if you eat a ton of iron can it be absorbed to the reticuloendothial cells and this could cause damage.?

men dont lose iron, ever, unless they lose blood....so the iron stays in the body..women lose iron via menes

I give blood every 6-8 weeks, I've given over 4 gallons in my lifetime, thus far
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on September 26, 2012, 06:25:00 pm


I hate reading peples opinions with no facts to back up what they say...you might as well, just yell out, SUGAR IS BAD FOR YOU.....but as most things in science, it depends

But iron isnt all that hard to understand; iron accumulates in the male body
iron is tightly controlled most being in the form of hemeoglobin(65%) and then myoglobin(35%) extra iron that is absorbed gets stored in the cells as ferritin and lesser as hemosiderin.
low blood iron causes release of ferritin iron. iron is needed to make RBCs and well as B12, ironically you store enough B12 to last you 3-4years before delveloping anemia.

really iron is regulated in the body by how much is absorbed. usually a few mg's a day are absorbed, however when you need iron your body will absorb a lot more(like 3 grams a day)

the problem I have is if you eat a ton of iron can it be absorbed to the reticuloendothial cells and this could cause damage.?

men dont lose iron, ever, unless they lose blood....so the iron stays in the body..women lose iron via menes

I give blood every 6-8 weeks, I've given over 4 gallons in my lifetime, thus far

Impressive (about giving blood).  And I agree with your first statement - I'm the same way.  I wouldn't do that except that I thought you were a fan too.  But, actually, I'm not sure why.

Anyway, I still think you should start a thread "How I Lost 68 Pounds in 3 Months" or whatever it was.  You're the resident weight loss king around here.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on September 26, 2012, 06:56:20 pm


Impressive (about giving blood).  And I agree with your first statement - I'm the same way.  I wouldn't do that except that I thought you were a fan too.  But, actually, I'm not sure why.

Anyway, I still think you should start a thread "How I Lost 68 Pounds in 3 Months" or whatever it was.  You're the resident weight loss king around here.
I would but it would be shorts
"how I lose 68lbs in 10 weeks"
LIPOSUCTION

LOL
I'll do after I get some blood work back, to make it more complete
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on October 04, 2012, 08:58:21 am
Yeah, I discombobulated you again:

http://peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=600.0
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on October 09, 2012, 09:23:18 am
what do you think of the info on this site?

http://www.treelight.com/health/nutrition/AmericanFoods.html

Wheat contains gluten, and for a large percentage of the population, gluten is as toxic as MSG. Gluten is the name for a family of proteins that act as "intestinal abrasives". They effectively sandpaper your insides until your intestines no longer function properly. When that happens, your intestines begin to absorb proteins that aren't fully digested. The gluten proteins are morphine-like opioids that don't break down easily. When you're body begins to absorb them, they produce an addiction response, similar to the one you get with MSG. But gluten proteins produce a variety of other problems, as well, including a type of adrenal exhaustion that makes it impossible to burn fat. Over time, your intestines become swollen, so you get a pot belly that makes you look even fatter than you are. (Medical "science" has figured out that there is a correlation between belly fat and disease, but it has so far failed to put two and two together to figure out that gluten is the cause of both. I put "science" in quotes to highlight that failure. They do study after study but, somehow, they fail to connect the dots.)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on October 09, 2012, 10:35:42 am
I split you if you didn't notice...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on October 09, 2012, 05:52:07 pm
I split you if you didn't notice...
I didnt notice because I link directly to this thread and didnt see a  link to the split
can you provide one when you split now on?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on October 09, 2012, 10:11:25 pm

I didnt notice because I link directly to this thread and didnt see a  link to the split
can you provide one when you split now on?

I meant to.  Just forgot...AONI...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on October 18, 2012, 10:40:01 am
Estrogens and Cancer.  You mama weaned you off of breast milk a long time ago and for good reason:  her breast milk is chock full of estrogens. Well, so is cow's milk and researchers have long noted that many types of hormone-related cancers, such as breast, testicular and prostate, are significantly higher in populations with high levels of milk and dairy consumption. [2] 

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Milk_Dangers.aspx

My MD said this is full of bunk, that the stomach acid destroys all hormones, which is why you take hormones via a shot and  not via mouth
thoughts?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: JustAskin on October 18, 2012, 11:39:03 am
People over 40 should take Ubiquinol instead of Regular Co-Q-10.
people over 40 cannot break down the regular Co-Q-10 enough absorb.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on December 01, 2012, 06:17:43 pm
Peak
THanksgiving is OVER
so your vacation from my questions is OVER

Ive been saving up....I'll do a few every few days, since I figure you have a life outside of this forum
1  I LOVE CEREAL....but I love milk(I get  organic milk, but it’s still milk, so I think it can increase inflammation..what can I use besides milk, thats NOT water?(and I rarely have cereal, maybe once a week.....)

2.  I cant find Beetroot Juice,(no trader joes near me) the store near me has BEETROOT POWDER..is thatthe same thing?  How much should I take?

3   I am concerned about fructose?  I get some blueberries(organic) 4oz of POM and 4 oz of Cranberry juice,,,,maybe an apple or organe,,,I try to walk 1 hour a day(usually after taking my juic) should I be concerned?

FInally
 what is NF2 gene?
http://www.nrf2.com/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21031035

does it really get activated via plants(broccoli) and make the insides of arteries smooth?
SFN activates Nrf2 and decreases adhesion molecule expression: prevents inflammatory cells from binding to endothelial cells at bifurcations and stress points

Green vegetable-fueled Nrf2 activity prevents an early event in cardiovascular disease
(dr furhman)
http://entheos-academy.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/production/courses/super_immunity/downloads/Super%20Immunity%20Lesson%203.pdf

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on December 01, 2012, 06:48:48 pm

1.  What is your goal?  Just a substitute with good taste? Or are you trying to get some protein?

2.  Beetroot Powder is not the same thing but it will have nitrates.  So will spinach, lettuce and celery.

3.  From what I have read, you want 25-50 grams of fructose per day usually.  Some people are more sensitive than others, so there is no magic formula.  Self nutrition has some listing for fructose that will give you a feel such as:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000011000000000000000.html

If you can't find what you're looking for there, you'll have to buy a nutritional program.  There's a lot of good cheap ones out there from what I have read.  I use Nutrinote myself.  It's got a weird, outdate GUI but has a big database comparatively.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on December 02, 2012, 05:46:10 am

1.  What is your goal?  Just a substitute with good taste? Or are you trying to get some protein?
eat something I like is the goal...I always thought health cereal was ok, I guess not.   but no answer about what to do about milk?
2.  Beetroot Powder is not the same thing but it will have nitrates.  So will spinach, lettuce and celery.
ok, I use it, I dont eat beats, I do eat spinach

3.  From what I have read, you want 25-50 grams of fructose per day usually.  Some people are more sensitive than others, so there is no magic formula.  Self nutrition has some listing for fructose that will give you a feel such as:
wow, so I can have about 2 apples a day to stay within 50mg or my 4oz of POM juice and 4oz of cranberry juice, 1 apple and a few blueberries...I never thought fructose was an issue, maybe it is
http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000011000000000000000.html

If you can't find what you're looking for there, you'll have to buy a nutritional program.  There's a lot of good cheap ones out there from what I have read.  I use Nutrinote myself.  It's got a weird, outdate GUI but has a big database comparatively.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on December 02, 2012, 12:24:19 pm
Keep in mind that many people do not think eating some extra fruit is a big deal.  Many cultures do it, of course, and are very healthy.  So that's yet another research item where we wish there was more data. 

If you're blood pressure is good and you're not putting on belly fat, then my two cents is that it's not having much of an effect on you.  Also, if you exercise a lot, a little extra fructose isn't probably going to hurt you. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on December 02, 2012, 03:21:53 pm
ok good, I walk about 20-60 mins a day as well as lift weights

4..  I sometimes eat organic peaches, do these have any worthwhile properties?(and organic does have different levels,
The USDA has identified for three categories of labeling organic products:

100% Organic: Made with 100% organic ingredients

Organic: Made with at least 95% organic ingredients

Made With Organic Ingredients: Made with a minimum of 70% organic ingredients with strict restrictions on the remaining 30% including no GMOs (genetically modified organisms)

Products with less than 70% organic ingredients may list organically produced ingredients on the side panel of the package, but may not make any organic claims on the front of the package.


http://www.organic.org/home/faq


5. Im going to try to eat rice; I know you suggest brown rice, but is black rice better

.6  Kegals—you said to hold the “pee” muscles for a count of ten.... then relax for 10...if I do one set of 10 every time I pee. I should be good to go, yes?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on January 21, 2013, 02:40:10 am
I dont understand what this page is saying here:
So what is a good T/E ratio?  A solid number for a 20 year old male is 30-40 with some guys shooting near 50.  Of course, some would argue that a T/E ratio that high makes it to where most guys can't think straight.  Regardless, youthful testosterone-to-estrogen ratios are quite high and are certainly ideal in terms of maintaining male health
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Estrogen_Ratio.aspx

I looked up about T/E ratios and found they give ratios, as in:
 There is some normal ethnic and time of day variation in the normal T/E ratio (as low as 0.7:1 and as high as 1.3:1).

so what does it mean to "shoot near 50"?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on January 21, 2013, 07:37:12 am


I looked up about T/E ratios and found they give ratios, as in:
 There is some normal ethnic and time of day variation in the normal T/E ratio (as low as 0.7:1 and as high as 1.3:1).


What is this a ratio of, i.e. what kind of testosterone and what units and what kind of estrogen and what units?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on January 21, 2013, 07:38:50 pm


What is this a ratio of, i.e. what kind of testosterone and what units and what kind of estrogen and what units?
the page doesnt say
its title is "testosterone estrogen ratio" and says in the paragraph, "So what is a good T/E ratio?"and gives unit-less numbers,
this is why I asked what this means?

It could say."for a 20 year old male is zebra with some guys shooting near elephant" and I also wouldnt understand.

I just need some help understanding the information you provide; thanks.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on January 21, 2013, 08:29:19 pm
Okay, I'm somewhat confused here.  But I think that you're saying the above quote is not from any of my material and you want to understand it.  If that is the case, it's very difficult without the units.  They are talking about a ratio near 1.0 and I'm talking about a ratio of 30+, so clearly the units are different unless I'm really missing something here.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on January 21, 2013, 10:08:32 pm
Okay, I'm somewhat confused here.  But I think that you're saying the above quote is not from any of my material and you want to understand it.  If that is the case, it's very difficult without the units.  They are talking about a ratio near 1.0 and I'm talking about a ratio of 30+, so clearly the units are different unless I'm really missing something here.
what I quoted was a ratiio,  4:1,thats a ratio and that was the only point of that line.

I then was trying to understand your page, because you arent using ratios.
saying.
"So what is a good T/E ratio?  A solid number for a 20 year old male is 30-40 with some guys shooting near 50.  "
is very unclear. because '40" is a ratio and it's not understood reading anything on that page
your page also has no units, so Im just more confused
you are asking more questions instead of answering my questions about what  dont understand, which is your page

are you saying that when you say, "40' you are meaning a testosterone/estrogen ratio of  40:1?
I cant tell because you dont have units and havent labeled anything, something you are saying the example I gave needs to have to ave you understand it, :o

so ingore everything I've said about anything other than your page and please help me understand your page
thanks
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on January 22, 2013, 09:03:33 am
Gotcha.  Okay, the ratio I'm talking about with those #s of 30, 40 and 50, etc. are total testosterone in ng/dl versus estradiol in pg/ml.  So a young, thin guy might have total T of 800 and estradiol of 20 for a T/E (better T/E2) ratio of 40 versus an older, more overweight male with a ratio of 400/40 = 10.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 20, 2013, 02:17:06 pm
Gotcha.  Okay, the ratio I'm talking about with those #s of 30, 40 and 50, etc. are total testosterone in ng/dl versus estradiol in pg/ml.  So a young, thin guy might have total T of 800 and estradiol of 20 for a T/E (better T/E2) ratio of 40 versus an older, more overweight male with a ratio of 400/40 = 10.
so the best way for a guy to get a good test/estradiol ratio is to?
1. -lose bodyfat,get to 8-14% Bodyfat
2  Low Fat Diet.(I'm not sure what that is, what percentage of calories of total calories does the research( what you used to base saying, "low fat diet helps T/E-ratio) say means low fat?

3 more sex

4   Arimidex (anastrolozole) is an aromatase inhibitor
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Estrogen_Ratio.aspx

so I have 100% control over 1 and 2....anythiing else?
don't broccoli/cruciferous veggies all have DIM that might be a natural aromatase inhibitor?
if so, how much broccoli should I consume per day?>  2lbs?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: haole on March 20, 2013, 02:25:53 pm
If I'm not mistaken the low fat portion is more for general heart health, and to reduce or minimize arteriosclerosis.  An active body with the appropriate energy intake is less likely to have excessive fat stores, and therefore less like to produce or convert testosterone to a less desirable hormone.

Endogenous Testosterone and other hormones manufactured by the body start life as cholesterol.  Increased dietary fat can increase testosterone production (under some conditions) but can also increase the risk for arteriosclerosis, and create conditions where blood flow is reduced.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 20, 2013, 09:27:38 pm

so the best way for a guy to get a good test/estradiol ratio is to?
1. -lose bodyfat,get to 8-14% Bodyfat


Well, this is the ideal and it will work for some men.  There's no guarantees though...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 20, 2013, 09:30:38 pm

Endogenous Testosterone and other hormones manufactured by the body start life as cholesterol.  Increased dietary fat can increase testosterone production (under some conditions) but can also increase the risk for arteriosclerosis, and create conditions where blood flow is reduced.

In general, I think you're right, but it's not quite as obvious as that and the reason is probably protein.  Higher protein levels, according to the same studies that show high fat = higher testosterone, lead to lower testosterone.  So this may be a reason that low fat people don't seem to suffer from low testosterone as far as I know.  In fact, one study shows their testosterone equal to that of the non-low fat control group.

So the whole picture depends on a lot of things...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 22, 2013, 09:25:27 am

Endogenous Testosterone and other hormones manufactured by the body start life as cholesterol.  Increased dietary fat can increase testosterone production (under some conditions) but can also increase the risk for arteriosclerosis, and create conditions where blood flow is reduced.

In general, I think you're right, but it's not quite as obvious as that and the reason is probably protein.  Higher protein levels, according to the same studies that show high fat = higher testosterone, lead to lower testosterone.  So this may be a reason that low fat people don't seem to suffer from low testosterone as far as I know.  In fact, one study shows their testosterone equal to that of the non-low fat control group.

So the whole picture depends on a lot of things...
likely because you are looking at various effects of marcoss on test levels
fat and protein
one does not mean the other
usually though, meat means saturated fat, as well as HCAs,  and other negative things to harm the body/endo

so why eat meat?
culture/peer pressure/ etc

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 22, 2013, 11:47:52 am

so why eat meat?
culture/peer pressure/ etc

Well, my own personal opinion is that most guys just like meat in Western societies.  And to justify eating it, many of the health-minded ones have even created a romanticized caveman philosophy that helps them justify the idea that a modern cow, with it's bloated saturated fat levels and pitiful omega-3 levels is somehow healthy. 

If you could take the same guy growing up in Asia somewhere where meat is eaten infrequently, it would never even cross his mind to eat boatloads of beef, pork, eggs and poultry at almost every meal.  Now, as I keep saying, eating a little meat does have some decent justification and Pritikin even did it and got stellar results. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 22, 2013, 12:42:42 pm
I am not a total douche ALL time, but this is one of my pet peeves because the frivoulous words add nothing to the statement you make
NADA:


Well, my own personal opinion is that

oh, your PERSONAL OPINION, ok thats different than saying,"I feel" or "my opinion" or just skipping  the words and saying what you mean
I have dystarthria and I harp on people and their use of, as my friend calls them, throw away words.


so why eat meat?
culture/peer pressure/ etc

Most guys just like meat in Western societies.  And to justify eating it, many of the health-minded ones have even created a romanticized caveman philosophy that helps them justify the idea that a modern cow, with it's bloated saturated fat levels and pitiful omega-3 levels is somehow healthy. 
right, that's why I mentioned culture.
If you could take the same guy growing up in Asia somewhere where meat is eaten infrequently, it would never even cross his mind to eat boatloads of beef, pork, eggs and poultry at almost every meal.  Now, as I keep saying, eating a little meat does have some decent justification and Pritikin even did it and got stellar results.

whats the justification for a "little"(whatever that is?) meat?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 22, 2013, 01:47:03 pm
It excels in certain nutrients where plants do not (zinc, creatine, choline, etc.).    This is why the CR (Caloric Restriction) folks eat some meat so that they can get their RDA's in all categories.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 22, 2013, 02:07:58 pm
It excels in certain nutrients where plants do not (zinc, creatine, choline, etc.).    This is why the CR (Caloric Restriction) folks eat some meat so that they can get their RDA's in all categories.
chicken and beef?
or just beef?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 22, 2013, 10:32:38 pm
It excels in certain nutrients where plants do not (zinc, creatine, choline, etc.).    This is why the CR (Caloric Restriction) folks eat some meat so that they can get their RDA's in all categories.
chicken and beef?
or just beef?

Don't remember.  That was many moons ago.  Roy Wolford, though, built some nutritional software that allowed the user to easily compute his RDA's.  This was decades ago and, of course, there are many more now.  But the clear goal of the CR folks was to make sure they had adequate nutrition through natural means and then let CR do its (supposed) life extending work.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 23, 2013, 08:29:49 am

Don't remember.  That was many moons ago.  Roy Wolford, though, built some nutritional software that allowed the user to easily compute his RDA's.  This was decades ago and, of course, there are many more now.  But the clear goal of the CR folks was to make sure they had adequate nutrition through natural means and then let CR do its (supposed) life extending work.
CR is based on the free-radical theory of aging, right?
fewer calories in, means less metabolic work by the body, so it produces less "pollution"(free radicals) that will oxidize tissue organs in the body causing damage etc.


Quality of life and quantity of life are not synonymous. Go read some of the caloric restriction stuff and look at the CR folks. Frail, cold all the time, no energy. Even if they live a few years longer, what sort of life is that?
The problem is for CR to work, you gotta start at a  young age.

but to live a healthy life, you dont need to have such drastic caloric restriction.  dont get fat, dont go nuts with carbs(if you do, dont let it become a problem(ie let you get fat) so monitor yourself monthly, etc.  so  you have a pair of pants, etc that if you cant fit into you know its time to diet, etc

if you eat meat cause you need nutritional stuff found in meat, go eat it,  but keep your BMI in check, thats the key
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 23, 2013, 10:32:05 am

CR is based on the free-radical theory of aging, right?
fewer calories in, means less metabolic work by the body, so it produces less "pollution"(free radicals) that will oxidize tissue organs in the body causing damage etc.

Quality of life and quantity of life are not synonymous. Go read some of the caloric restriction stuff and look at the CR folks. Frail, cold all the time, no energy. Even if they live a few years longer, what sort of life is that?
Couldn't agree more.  I actually started down this road many moons ago and realized I couldn't take looking skeletal and backed out. 

The problem is for CR to work, you gotta start at a  young age.
Well, they had some mouse studies that showed you could start in middle age and still get extension.  But they haven't figured out how to make it work in primates yet, so it's kind of a moot point.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 23, 2013, 10:59:19 am
Well, they had some mouse studies that showed you could start in middle age and still get extension.  But they haven't figured out how to make it work in primates yet, so it's kind of a moot point.
?
I dont recall saying the idea never worked, even in middle age, just the the "extension" was so small, to be of relevance, you had to start at a young age
compound interest works, but different results if you start at 2yo vs 70yrs old

The best bet is to perserve the quality of life you have and make the health/quality of your life as high as you can, which this site lays out what to follow pretty well.
 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 23, 2013, 12:07:12 pm
Well, they had some mouse studies that showed you could start in middle age and still get extension.  But they haven't figured out how to make it work in primates yet, so it's kind of a moot point.
?
I dont recall saying the idea never worked, even in middle age, just the the "extension" was so small, to be of relevance, you had to start at a young age
compound interest works, but different results if you start at 2yo vs 70yrs old

The best bet is to perserve the quality of life you have and make the health/quality of your life as high as you can, which this site lays out what to follow pretty well.
Agreed.  That's the state of science right now.  I think it will all be different in fifty years, but that's about the best we can do for now...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on March 27, 2013, 09:09:37 pm
Im working nights, getting 4-5 hours of sleep after I get home, being awake for the day, then  4-5 hours before I work again
Will this affect my T-levels?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on March 27, 2013, 10:06:56 pm
Im working nights, getting 4-5 hours of sleep after I get home, being awake for the day, then  4-5 hours before I work again
Will this affect my T-levels?

Whoa!  Well, I don't remember seeing a study on this pattern, so you'd probably have to test this in yourself, which is what really counts anyway.  But, as I think you know, some studies show shift work does affect testosterone levels.  Not all though...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 04, 2013, 09:29:50 pm

I just got bored and watched Knives over Forks.....I dont eat anything other than eggwhites that are from animals....I dont worry about myself and cancer., bu I worry about my parents, now both 65

in tbe movie,. Dr Esselstyn  says how he learned the info to write his book...via the China Study and research

but NO animal protein?
so I need to stop eating eggwhites..
he goes into 2 parts about protein
1 how without it, you will die...you don't need carbs(sugar) or fat as much as you must have protein
2 he showed a graph that showed how much animal protein was consumed in a country and then a graph next to it of cancer in that country
the graphs were all about identical, cept the cancer graph was 20% taller

I found this high yield facts about the diet and the biggest concern I have is EGGWHITEs? no eggwhites....I'd better start eating rice protein and get my protein elsewhere....dang it??

The Esselstyn Rules:

    No meat, no poultry, no fish--not even salmon
    No dairy of any kind--not even skim milk or non-fat yogurt.
   No eggs--not even egg whites or Egg Beaters
    No oil--not even virgin olive oil or canola oil
    Aim for 100% Whole Grain products. Ingredients must say, Whole Wheat, or Whole Buckwheat, Whole Rye,etc. 100% stone-ground wheat is not Whole Wheat unless the word Whole appears.  Forget about semolina flour in pasta.  Forget about white rice.  I thought my Barilla Plus multigrain pasta was fantastic--turns out, semolina is the number one ingredient.
    Do not drink juice. Fruit is fine.  A little juice used to saute, or season recipes or for salad dressings is fine
    Do not eat nuts, even walnuts, unless you do not have heart disease.
    Do not eat avocados, if you have heart disease.
    Do not eat coconut, if you have heart disease.
    Eat soy products cautiously.  They are high in fat (40% +) and many are highly processed.  Only use Lite Tofu (like Mori-Nu or NaSoya Lite Firm Tofu).  I also use Soy Boy Organic 5 Grain Low Fat Tempeh.
    Reduce sugar as much as possible.  When you do use it for recipes, stick to the more unprocessed varieties.  But don't fool yourself, maple syrup, agave, and ho

http://www.happyhealthylonglife.com/happy_healthy_long_life/2011/08/15-months.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 08, 2013, 03:44:31 am
I think this is one of the best pages!
Jack LaLanne and Fitness
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Jack_LaLanne_Fitness.aspx

I have asked about fasting a few times

I agree with that...I'm not sure about results to expect....I wish I knew more about this topic,
and I learn that Jack ate only twice a day....then I will do the same thing.  I know he says NO SUGAR, but  I get sugar in my POM/cranberry juice, I suppose that's ok though.  as I do it before I workout/walk on treadmill/something active

I do have a question about
) Heavy Fruit and Vegetable (Raw) Consumption. "And I have at least 5 or 6 pieces of fresh fruit everyday and 10 raw vegetables." [1]
what fruit? what veggies?

and why no coffee?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 08, 2013, 07:56:55 am
I think this is one of the best pages!
Jack LaLanne and Fitness
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Jack_LaLanne_Fitness.aspx

I have asked about fasting a few times

and I learn that Jack ate only twice a day....then I will do the same thing.  I know he says NO SUGAR, but  I get sugar in my POM/cranberry juice, I suppose that's ok though.  as I do it before I workout/walk on treadmill/something active

I do have a question about
) Heavy Fruit and Vegetable (Raw) Consumption. "And I have at least 5 or 6 pieces of fresh fruit everyday and 10 raw vegetables." [1]
what fruit? what veggies?

and why no coffee?

Yes, no added sugar of any kind.  This was his #1 most hated food.  Read the story of his "conversion" at a Paul Bragg meeting and you'll see why.

I don't think he had a formula for which fruits and vegetables to consume.  His philosophy was basically to be all natural, so just eat nature's food.  He considered cows to be "unnatural" and ate/drank nothing from one.

As far as coffee, I don't know for sure, but I believe he considered it a crutch and only necessary for those with low energy levels due to poor lifestyle.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 08, 2013, 07:21:37 pm
I think this is one of the best pages!
Jack LaLanne and Fitness
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Jack_LaLanne_Fitness.aspx

I do have a question about
) Heavy Fruit and Vegetable (Raw) Consumption. "And I have at least 5 or 6 pieces of fresh fruit everyday and 10 raw vegetables." [1]
what fruit? what veggies?



I can't find what Jack ate in terms of fruits/veggies, but I found the answer in what I was reading:
Health and nutrition secrets
by Dr. Blaylock, MD

http://www.amazon.com/Health-Nutrition-Secrets-Russell-Blaylock/dp/0929173481

where he says to eat
fruits
currants(red/black)
oranges and tangerines
macintosh apples
blueberries
blackberries
raspberries
strawberries
cranberrries
grapes(flouride free only)
sweet-sour-cherries
pinapple

Veggies
kale
broccolli
brussels sprouts
tomatoes
califlower
cabbbage(purple/red)
cilantro
beets
rhubarb
spinach

saying also that you should try to balance what you eat in terms of inflammatory response
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2356/2
this site gives a rating of inflamation to food, try to get the number to be 0  or positive, which means anti-inflammatory

when I have time,I'll summarize the book as this person did with Excitotoxins – The Taste That Kills(attached)
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 08, 2013, 09:57:23 pm
So you're saying Blaylock recommends trying to eat non-inflammatory fruits and veges?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 08, 2013, 11:53:06 pm
how do I get rid of the fluoride in my body
or can I?
http://www.naturalnews.com/026605_fluoride_fluorides_detox.html
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 09, 2013, 07:41:02 am
how do I get rid of the fluoride in my body
or can I?
http://www.naturalnews.com/026605_fluoride_fluorides_detox.html

Now that I don't know.  Let us know if you find something out...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 09, 2013, 01:39:49 pm
I think this is one of the best pages!
Jack LaLanne and Fitness
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Jack_LaLanne_Fitness.aspx

I do have a question about
) Heavy Fruit and Vegetable (Raw) Consumption. "And I have at least 5 or 6 pieces of fresh fruit everyday and 10 raw vegetables." [1]
what fruit? what veggies?



I can't find what Jack ate in terms of fruits/veggies, but I found the answer in what I was reading:
Health and nutrition secrets
by Dr. Blaylock, MD

http://www.amazon.com/Health-Nutrition-Secrets-Russell-Blaylock/dp/0929173481

where he says to eat..
absorption of iron from plants is only about 5% of normal, so I'm not worried about getting iron from non-meats like plants
I was looking at what kind of vitamin C to take, what kind of magnessium to take and I realized, I don't need to worry about getting a supplemental form form anything, as long as I eat my 5-10 servings of fruit/veggies like JackL and Dr B say to do...

1 tomato---yes, I just toss in a clean, whole tomato

Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 09, 2013, 02:03:19 pm


That's pretty much true - about the magnesium from a bunch of fruits and veges - but there is the (ill-defined) issue of soil depletion.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 09, 2013, 09:16:51 pm
Done.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 12, 2013, 07:09:20 pm
I have a vice
It contains
Disodium Dihydrogen Pyrophosphate? "to retain color"

I cant find this as an excitotoxin, does anyone know if it is?
http://www.free-ebooks.net/ebook/They-Are-Trying-to-Kill-Us-and-It-s-Time-to-Fight-Back/pdf?dl&preview
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 12, 2013, 08:47:40 pm
I have a vice
It contains
Disodium Dihydrogen Pyrophosphate? "to retain color"

I cant find this as an excitotoxin, does anyone know if it is?
http://www.free-ebooks.net/ebook/They-Are-Trying-to-Kill-Us-and-It-s-Time-to-Fight-Back/pdf?dl&preview

Well, the important thing is that researchers have studied it extensively to understand its effects on hormones, mitochondrial function, telomerase, intestinal flora, clotting, tissue accumulation -  bwaaahaaahhaaaahhaaaahaaaa.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 13, 2013, 12:44:27 am
I have a vice
It contains
Disodium Dihydrogen Pyrophosphate? "to retain color"

I cant find this as an excitotoxin, does anyone know if it is?
http://www.free-ebooks.net/ebook/They-Are-Trying-to-Kill-Us-and-It-s-Time-to-Fight-Back/pdf?dl&preview

Well, the important thing is that researchers have studied it extensively to understand its effects on hormones, mitochondrial function, telomerase, intestinal flora, clotting, tissue accumulation -  bwaaahaaahhaaaahhaaaahaaaa.
eh?
so you want to share anything about what the researchers have learned?
better yet, tell me its bad, good, or to just eat it rarely, etc?
any useful information would be, ya know, useful!

this post reminds of the documentary  Hungry For Change,  which had a some decent facts, but repeated itself a lot   This is NOT medical advice. Talk to your doctor first and is something I'd never watch again, I learned nothing from it, just reaffirmation of what I already knew
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 13, 2013, 06:45:09 am

eh?
so you want to share anything about what the researchers have learned?
better yet, tell me its bad, good, or to just eat it rarely, etc?
any useful information would be, ya know, useful!

this post reminds of the documentary  Hungry For Change,  which had a some decent facts, but repeated itself a lot   This is NOT medical advice. Talk to your doctor first and is something I'd never watch again, I learned nothing from it, just reaffirmation of what I already knew

Don't know anything about it.  I was joking because so many of these additives they just assume are healthy unless it is extremely toxic. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 13, 2013, 06:18:02 pm
I have a vice
It contains
Disodium Dihydrogen Pyrophosphate? "to retain color"

I cant find this as an excitotoxin, does anyone know if it is?
http://www.free-ebooks.net/ebook/They-Are-Trying-to-Kill-Us-and-It-s-Time-to-Fight-Back/pdf?dl&preview

I dont find it on lists like this, so I dont think it's to be concerned about
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 13, 2013, 06:19:41 pm


Don't know anything about it.  I was joking because so many of these additives they just assume are healthy unless it is extremely toxic.
I asked a serious question and I couldnt tell you were joking. 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 13, 2013, 08:39:20 pm
Is Blaylock wrong?
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2011/blaylock.html

I get asked by people, when I cite Dr blaylock, could blaylock be wrong?  what are other sources that agree with what he says
I dont know of any.
I know 2 things
1 following what Blaylock says to do, I've greatly improved my health in how I feel, look, and the numbers from my blood tests.
2, If someone told me to do crack/pot/herion/etc... drugs that make me feel great, but have long term negative consequences.
 
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 13, 2013, 09:46:41 pm
Is Blaylock wrong?
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2011/blaylock.html

I get asked by people, when I cite Dr blaylock, could blaylock be wrong?  what are other sources that agree with what he says
I dont know of any.
I know 2 things
1 following what Blaylock says to do, I've greatly improved my health in how I feel, look, and the numbers from my blood tests.
2, If someone told me to do crack/pot/herion/etc... drugs that make me feel great, but have long term negative consequences.

I know this:  Blaylock did a great job of documenting the studies in his book on excitotoxins.  Excellent detail, clearly written - what's not to like?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 14, 2013, 12:46:32 am

I know this:  Blaylock did a great job of documenting the studies in his book on excitotoxins.  Excellent detail, clearly written - what's not to like?

I'm not the one questioning him or the science he proves
 Telling people, "Go read the well documented science!" isnt something they understand. as I have told you:

"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they're afraid it might be true. Peoples' heads are full of knowledge, facts and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."

    Wizard's First Rule, Chapter 36, page 39
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 14, 2013, 05:28:53 am


"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they're afraid it might be true. Peoples' heads are full of knowledge, facts and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."

    Wizard's First Rule, Chapter 36, page 39

Hey, young guys aren't supposed to be jaded.

""It's a very understandable book, because the average person has an IQ of about two.""

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/Jack-LaLanne-Is-Still-an-Animal.html?page=9
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 14, 2013, 05:46:52 am

Hey, young guys aren't supposed to be jaded.


young? mentally or physically?
I'm on life #2; life #1 was taken from me when I went from medical school to being in a coma.

I look around at most people, they complain about their lives and what they have to do to get where they want to go, but most of them are where they are because they choose to be there.
I'm trying to learn the most I can about what's going to happen in the future, so I can avoid perils and try to live a healthy life.  The spastic gait and dysarthria are just new elements for me to overcome.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 14, 2013, 08:33:27 am

Hey, young guys aren't supposed to be jaded.


young? mentally or physically?
I'm on life #2; life #1 was taken from me when I went from medical school to being in a coma.

I look around at most people, they complain about their lives and what they have to do to get where they want to go, but most of them are where they are because they choose to be there.
I'm trying to learn the most I can about what's going to happen in the future, so I can avoid perils and try to live a healthy life.  The spastic gait and dysarthria are just new elements for me to overcome.

Well, at the pace you're going, you're going to live to be 150...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 14, 2013, 03:37:28 pm


Well, at the pace you're going, you're going to live to be 150...

I'm surviving, living is a dream I have still.

Im reading POWER FOODS for the Brain  by Neal Barnard to see if anything is valid in it
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 14, 2013, 06:13:54 pm


I'm surviving, living is a dream I have still.

Im reading POWER FOODS for the Brain  by Neal Barnard to see if anything is valid in it

Dare you doubt his superpowers?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 17, 2013, 07:30:52 am
I want to get a blood test of total test.  free test,  sbhg,  LH estradiol, etc
http://peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Tests.aspx

but I want to do it when I'm at 12% bodyfat.
what is the ideal bodyfat to have testosterone the highest at?  that's what I should be at.
thanks
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 17, 2013, 09:02:21 am
but I want to do it when I'm at 12% bodyfat.
what is the ideal bodyfat to have testosterone the highest at?  that's what I should be at.
thanks

Great question.  I don't think I've seen a study on that. 

This is somewhat of a chicken and egg thing, though, since testosterone tends to help you lose weight.

The underlying principle is that the more you lose, the lower the conversion to estradiol and thus the higher the testosterone.  But is there a point of diminishing returns?  I don't know the answer to that...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 17, 2013, 04:18:58 pm

Great question.  I don't think I've seen a study on that. 

This is somewhat of a chicken and egg thing, though, since testosterone tends to help you lose weight.

The underlying principle is that the more you lose, the lower the conversion to estradiol and thus the higher the testosterone.  But is there a point of diminishing returns?  I don't know the answer to that...
I know my friend told me he peaked at 11% and he monitors his test level very closely, but I thought I'd ask
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 17, 2013, 05:49:35 pm

Great question.  I don't think I've seen a study on that. 

This is somewhat of a chicken and egg thing, though, since testosterone tends to help you lose weight.

The underlying principle is that the more you lose, the lower the conversion to estradiol and thus the higher the testosterone.  But is there a point of diminishing returns?  I don't know the answer to that...
I know my friend told me he peaked at 11% and he monitors his test level very closely, but I thought I'd ask

Interesting.  Did he go below 11%?
Title: Re: random question
Post by: Blade78 on April 17, 2013, 06:16:47 pm


Interesting.  Did he go below 11%?

I was incorrect, he peaked about 15% bodyfat
he is below 10% now, but he also uses AAS and has no plans to ever get off
Title: Re: random question
Post by: JackAndy on April 18, 2013, 08:46:49 am
The underlying principle is that the more you lose, the lower the conversion to estradiol and thus the higher the testosterone.  But is there a point of diminishing returns?  I don't know the answer to that...

There's some motivation to lose weight. I still can't seem to get my last 5 pounds off though. I was down to an 1,800 calorie per day, cardio every day diet and was just stalled so I decided to take a break and reverse diet for a while.
Title: Re: random question
Post by: PeakT on April 18, 2013, 10:20:06 am
The underlying principle is that the more you lose, the lower the conversion to estradiol and thus the higher the testosterone.  But is there a point of diminishing returns?  I don't know the answer to that...

There's some motivation to lose weight. I still can't seem to get my last 5 pounds off though. I was down to an 1,800 calorie per day, cardio every day diet and was just stalled so I decided to take a break and reverse diet for a while.

I know what you mean.  I've got the line to creep farther down my abs, but getting rid of that last bit of fat is no small task...
Title: Re: random question
Post by: JackAndy on April 18, 2013, 10:29:51 am
I know what you mean.  I've got the line to creep farther down my abs, but getting rid of that last bit of fat is no small task...

They sure make it sound easy though. What I'm trying now is to get the metabolism back up while not gaining too much. So I'm just sticking with a 3,000 calorie diet for a while.