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Title: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 09, 2013, 01:52:42 am
Most of the men that show up on this board have a common suite of symptoms plaguing them:

erectile dysfunction, low libido, depression, mental fog, fatigue, anxiety, loss of morning erections, etc.

Unfortunately, there are many causes for these kind of symptoms and I am slowly building up different "Steps" for a man to go though (with his doctor) to troubleshoot these issues.

To see this new program just go to my home page

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/

And (at least for now) look on the right side. 

If anyone has any comments/question/suggestions, let me know...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: StevoDevo on December 09, 2013, 07:13:56 pm
Thanks - was a useful read for a newbie like myself.  I have lots to learn so thanks for pulling these resources together!
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 09, 2013, 07:17:39 pm
Thanks - was a useful read for a newbie like myself.  I have lots to learn so thanks for pulling these resources together!

Glad something helped.  There's more to come by the way.  I'm kind of doing the "big guns" first, but there are a number of very common things that can also contribute which I will cover shortly...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: Bigjohn on December 09, 2013, 08:09:15 pm
Thanks Peak for your commitment on this.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 09, 2013, 09:50:39 pm
Thanks Peak for your commitment on this.

You bet.  Could you tell that to my wife?   ;D
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: spiderman on December 10, 2013, 12:32:01 pm
Nice overall summary for the newbies PT!..good for quick general reference to..good stuff :)
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 10, 2013, 02:18:28 pm
Nice overall summary for the newbies PT!..good for quick general reference to..good stuff :)

Coming from spiderman, that's quite a compliment...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: FitNLean30 on December 12, 2013, 02:27:10 am
PeakT, as usual you are providing a tremendous amount of useful information for free.  As has been said I think it's a great primer for folks to open their eyes to what may be causing their problems.  With that I offer the following comments to make it better.

I didn't see any mention of DHT.  As you know low DHT can wreak havoc on a man's erectile function.  I would at least mention it somewhere, in particular for those who may be taking hair growth drugs (FINASTERIDE) or Saw Palmetto.  You mention it elsewhere on your site.  I think it would be a good idea to include info about it in your PeakT Program.

My next comment is heavily laden in my personal opinion, but I'll share it anyway - perhaps there are a few useful nuggets.  I think men are too quick to jump to Testosterone replacement to solve their problems.  Don't get me wrong, I'm all for bringing the numbers up but I think Test replacement is an easy fix that has potential side effects we tend to brush aside.  As someone who was on Testosterone, HGC, and Arimidex for a couple years I can speak from personal experience.  This three-peat combo made me stronger, bigger, and more horny.  But it also reduced my testical size, ejaculate volume,  made my face look puffy, and in certain ways made me worse of an athlete (as measured by my reduced ability to run 3 mile timed runs and do pull ups due to my heavier size). 

I think the issue of fertility and testosterone is too often glazed over - Frequently I see on websites - and I paraphrase.. "can cause problems if fertility is a goal or concern."  I think fertility is only half of the issue, the other half of the fertility issue is quality of orgasm.  Even if one doesn't want children they certainly want to enjoy ejaculating as much as possible.  Even with HCG twice a week, testosterone most definitely reduced my sperm count, but perhaps more importantly it had a subsequent effect of reducing my pleasure when climaxing/ejaculating.  Shooting blanks isn't fun regardless of how horny testosterone makes you. In fact, it's kind of embarrassing and can compound the problem.  After all, nothing says alpha-male more than trying to make excuses to your girlfriend why only a thimble full of ejaculate (sarcasm intended) came out.   Yes, HCG is supposed to fix this, but in my experience it never fully restored the function.  And granted, some men are to the point where they aren't producing sperm anyway.  For them I say go forward with testosterone replacement without looking back.  For others, I recommend more of an emphasis on finding ways to make their own bodies produce more T through the Leydig Cells/Luteinizing hormone route.  A secondary approach would be HCG with Arimidex or perhaps Clomid and Arimidex.  I'm hesitant to recommend HCG because it replaces LH instead of stimulating it.  Anything that gives your body a reason to not produce it's own is bad news in my opinion.

Admittedly my suggestion is a harder approach and perhaps not as dramatic or immediate, but in the long run one's testicles will thank you. I'm still trying to figure out how to do this.  Your site has been a tremendous help in my search for an answer.  I'm doing a little experiment on myself that will take 3-6 months but once I come up with some answers I'll be sure to share them with the group.  Again, thanks for your help and advice.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 12, 2013, 02:57:24 am
Great commentary and that's no problem that we don't see perfectly eye-to-eye on everything.  But - trust me - there are many men that are very hesitant about traditional HRT for a wide variety of reasons.  Now, in my case, and I feel fantastic on the "Trifecta" protocol (cypionate + HCG + low dose Arimidex), but that is definitely not the case with every low T man as you know.

Your comments about the above are interesting to me.  I feel SO much better than I did pre-HRT that there is simply no comparison.  In fact, I can simply say that HRT gave me the life that I was never able to have.  And, to date, I have had no major side effects, but I recognize they certainly can happen.

Also, I want to go to the ejaculate issue.  Now it sounds like you feel certain that T caused your problem and I am sure it contributed to it.  However, are you positive you don't have some retrograde ejaculation?  HRT will not reduce your semen volume dramatically as far as I know:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Low_Semen_Volume

Also, I don't doubt your word, but I have never heard of a female complaining about low ejaculate volume - quite the opposite.  Other guys can chime in, but my impression is that most women that's a bit messy anyway shall we say.

So HRT kind of reminds me of capitalism.  It's not perfect and it has underlying issues, but there isn't anything that comes close to it at this point. 

Also, I'm sure you were all over this, but usually puffiness is from overly high estradiol.  If you doctor was using the wrong E2 test, you could have had problems with this or if he/she targeted you overly high.  Just a comment.

I definitely agree with you about the fertility issue.  We have had a number of men on the board excited about their HRT and then I will ask, "Your doctor told you this would fertility, right?"  They said, "Huh?"  So it's a problem.

And I agree that Clomid is by far the safest route if you want to have kids.  HCG Monotherapy may work for some guys though.  This is something I always try to mention.

So points well taken and, again, I don't blame you for being hesitant.  Probably a third or a fourth of they guys on the board are very hesitant about HRT, so you're in good company.  But, for me, it was a life saver.  As I've mentioned, even my boss commented on how much better I was doing.  That was kind of embarrassing, but I didn't realize how much low T affected me.  And I can tell you that without HRT, I might as well join a Trappist monastery because my venous leakage was so bad. 

So I think it depends on a lot of things...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: FitNLean30 on December 15, 2013, 11:47:25 pm
Regarding low ejaculate volume on HRT (T, HCG, Arimidex), honestly I hadn't considered other possibilities.  I just assumed it was the T.  Thanks for mentioning retrograde ejaculation.  I'll check into it - (never even heard of it until you spoke of it).

Regarding puffiness, yeah I know it's a sign of too much E2 but my estrogen never got above 30, and usually hovered 25-27 so I should have been fine. 
I think I must be one of those guys that if there can be negative symptoms felt, I will experience them.  The same thing happened with finisteride.  All my friends were on it, but I was the only one who had sexual side-effects.  I'm just very sensitive to hormone changes so I have to be careful.

On the other hand I'm certain I'll be back on HRT at some point, I'm just trying to take a graduated approach to it - only doing the minimum and adjusting accordingly as I age.    Right now I'm trying to focus more on how I feel (sexually, athletically, and mentally) and less on what the numbers say.  By all indications I should be in bad shape - T around 375 and E around 30.  But I actually feel pretty good, and that's ultimately what we're after. HRT is only a tool to get there.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 16, 2013, 01:07:30 am
Regarding low ejaculate volume on HRT (T, HCG, Arimidex), honestly I hadn't considered other possibilities.  I just assumed it was the T.  Thanks for mentioning retrograde ejaculation.  I'll check into it - (never even heard of it until you spoke of it).

Regarding puffiness, yeah I know it's a sign of too much E2 but my estrogen never got above 30, and usually hovered 25-27 so I should have been fine. 
I think I must be one of those guys that if there can be negative symptoms felt, I will experience them.  The same thing happened with finisteride.  All my friends were on it, but I was the only one who had sexual side-effects.  I'm just very sensitive to hormone changes so I have to be careful.

On the other hand I'm certain I'll be back on HRT at some point, I'm just trying to take a graduated approach to it - only doing the minimum and adjusting accordingly as I age.    Right now I'm trying to focus more on how I feel (sexually, athletically, and mentally) and less on what the numbers say.  By all indications I should be in bad shape - T around 375 and E around 30.  But I actually feel pretty good, and that's ultimately what we're after. HRT is only a tool to get there.

Noted.

Be sure to occasionally monitor for anemia.  Sounds like a non-issue for you but quite common in lower testosterone guys.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: mjm111 on December 24, 2013, 05:34:10 pm
Hey Peak,

Under your new program, can all the supplements to naturally increase NO be taken? I take all of them other than Quercetin.

Thanks!

Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 24, 2013, 10:57:19 pm
Hey Peak,

Under your new program, can all the supplements to naturally increase NO be taken? I take all of them other than Quercetin.

Thanks!

At this time, I don't know of any downside.  Of course, that doesn't mean someone won't uncover something.  But, to date, Pycnogenol, Citrulline, Ginseng, Icariin have not had any big side effects crop up that I know of. 

Can they be taken for decades?  Well, no one has studied that.  Ginseng has been used forever in traditional medicine, etc.  However, Citrulline and high concentration Icariin extracts are pretty new.  Pycnogenol has been around for awhile and has been widely used and studied.  But are they okay for five decades every day?  No one knows the answer to that...

As always, I encourage you to take supplements initially to get you over the hump while you're getting a solid exercise program going, learning how to eat right and, hopefully, clearing out your arteries.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: mjm111 on December 25, 2013, 12:17:01 am
Thanks for the reply. I eat clean &u exercise (too much) ... its good to take time off supplements, IMO, whether its a few days per week or a few weeks every few months ... IMO, it keeps your body responding ...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on April 02, 2014, 06:02:49 pm
Thx bzarfas...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: specialk on April 15, 2014, 05:10:02 am
Great thread.  Man, sounds like my life when I read yours Peak T...   Mine all started with an emotional trauma, didn't know it then, but T dropped and depression followed.... gutted it out for almost 2 years... then a friend who was on TRT gave me a pack of androgel... I know it's not supposed to work fast, but I am not kidding when I say that within 90 minutes, I felt like a new man.

So I went on HRT for the last 13 years... pretty much all was well. I found I like to be around 700-800 level ng/dl  total T... my estradiol was never an issue.

Then I had some more super stress (lost best friend we were like brothers and he was a good Christian brother I could talk to about anything spiritual and he totally got me)... then we ( my wife and kids ) moved, then there were some MAJOR life changes career dream killers....etc...

My thyroid went out of control... HYPERthyroid... ULTRA anxiety, fast heart rate, almost psychosis....it was a nightmare and when I was hyperthyroid, I couldn't take testosterone injections because they made it worse! SO I was getting hit from multiple angles.

The thryoid issue started in June /2013... fast forward, my HRT Doc got scared when I had the thyroid issue and pushed me off to an endocrinologist... after my thyroid issue resloved (amazingly) No Graves Disease, and no Hashimotos... just INFLAMATION!!   He wanted to see if he could get my testicles back in shape...

So we started Clomid 25mg every day.

First day- didn't notice anything.
Second day - Hot Flash and that evening, severe anxiety (but only lasted a few hours).
4th day -  felt great, could tell my testosterone was up and I hate to admit it, but having my balls swell up a bit felt really awesome!

At this same time, I started to get light headed, like I would pass out...  this lasted the entire time I took it (about 4 weeks).

After getting tested and seeing my testosterone was only up to 376 ng/dl and with all the light headedness (very bad)....
I bailed out and since I was only taking 25mg per day, and the half-life for clomid is 5 days, I figured no taper necessary.
WRONG...bad decision...

Day 1 off Clomid- no big deal
Day 2 - same
Day 3 - irritability coming on big time
Day 3 - Evening...something out of Night Gallery (remember old horror show)... like the begining of Clomid only Did NOT end in a few hours.
Day 4- just as bad as Day 3 evening.
Day 5- intensity went down a LOT but was still there.

Today is Day  9 and while it is tolerable, and I feel OK, during the day and evening, even pretty good at times... I am not back to my normal self and the light headedness is STILL there... not as often, but still there and unpredictable.

I will NEVER take Clomid again and I pray that these side effects will diminish over time.

I'm going to try to get back with my old HRT doc and just start the injections again... did it for 13 years with great results the entire time. I just thought I'd try to see if maybe my nuts just shut off and maybe I could get them going and never have to inject myself again.... I hate doing it every week, but like your story PeakT, I have a friend who is on HRT and he tried the pellets and had a similar result to you, so I'm not going that route.

I got tired of inj, in my glutes, so I found a pretty insensitive spot in my quads... having to almost turn around to hit the glutes is difficult, hitting the quad is easy and almost painless. I aim for the vastus intermedius (one side or the other, not directly in the middle or I hit the tendon and cannot even press the syringe.

Anyway, glad to find the forum, glad to read your story and boy oh boy is it true. Testosterone improves the quality of life on such a huge level, it cannot really even be described.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on April 15, 2014, 07:11:35 am
Hey, SpecialK.  Good to hear from u again but sorry to hear about all the trials and tribulations.  I need to to sleep and not be a hypocrit but quick comment:  have you considered Nebido?  Similar philosophy to pellets...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: cporro on July 07, 2016, 04:49:34 am
much thanks for this primer! i'm new to this testosterone thing. (Hg poisoning is really my pet). having something like this is a great way to start...a wide overview.

a few questions...

i didn't see any adaptogenic herbs: (adrenal fatigue) ashwagandha, holy basil, rhodiola rosea, mentioned. are they unproven? or don't work?

also, i'm going to see if i can find you that mercury hypogonadism study. it may be in one of cutlers toxicology reference books. my thinking is heavy metals...that type of toxicity...might play a larger and undetected role in low T. andy's basic argument, which i agree with, is: there is wide exposure and little diagnosis because most doctors know nothing about it. that alone would point to it being a larger problem then people think. sorry...forgot my point. point is... seems to me toxic metals should be higher on the list of causes. i did see you mentioned them more then once though. : )

thx!

Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on July 07, 2016, 05:51:40 pm
much thanks for this primer! i'm new to this testosterone thing. (Hg poisoning is really my pet). having something like this is a great way to start...a wide overview.

a few questions...

i didn't see any adaptogenic herbs: (adrenal fatigue) ashwagandha, holy basil, rhodiola rosea, mentioned. are they unproven? or don't work?

also, i'm going to see if i can find you that mercury hypogonadism study. it may be in one of cutlers toxicology reference books. my thinking is heavy metals...that type of toxicity...might play a larger and undetected role in low T. andy's basic argument, which i agree with, is: there is wide exposure and little diagnosis because most doctors know nothing about it. that alone would point to it being a larger problem then people think. sorry...forgot my point. point is... seems to me toxic metals should be higher on the list of causes. i did see you mentioned them more then once though. : )

thx!

Let me know what you find out.

I didn't include ashwagandha and rhodiola - I'm a fan of both though - because I really haven't seen many guys on here saying "wow!" those were a life saver.  Now maybe it is because they are simply not widely enough used - I don't know.  Another hesitation that I have is that they can lower cortisol and some guys have low cortisol.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: joshthyer on August 09, 2016, 11:06:56 pm
Epic! Looking forward to going through your new program, I have been looking for more info to help. Is that the Peak Body one?
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on August 10, 2016, 12:14:48 am
Epic! Looking forward to going through your new program, I have been looking for more info to help. Is that the Peak Body one?

Check out this:

Same one.  Check out my new Peak Testosterone Program on the right side of my home page: http://www.peaktestosterone.com.

It is also on this page:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: robert.brown98765 on December 29, 2017, 06:50:05 am
Most of the men that show up on this board have a common suite of symptoms plaguing them:

erectile dysfunction, low libido, depression, mental fog, fatigue, anxiety, loss of morning erections, etc.

Unfortunately, there are many causes for these kind of symptoms and I am slowly building up different "Steps" for a man to go though (with his doctor) to troubleshoot these issues.

To see this new program just go to my home page

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/

And (at least for now) look on the right side. 

If anyone has any comments/question/suggestions, let me know...


Thanks a lot! This was very useful. I was considering the use of testosterone and many people discouraged me. This kind of helped e to put things into perspective.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on December 29, 2017, 10:38:15 pm
Most of the men that show up on this board have a common suite of symptoms plaguing them:

erectile dysfunction, low libido, depression, mental fog, fatigue, anxiety, loss of morning erections, etc.

Unfortunately, there are many causes for these kind of symptoms and I am slowly building up different "Steps" for a man to go though (with his doctor) to troubleshoot these issues.

To see this new program just go to my home page

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/

And (at least for now) look on the right side. 

If anyone has any comments/question/suggestions, let me know...


Thanks a lot! This was very useful. I was considering the use of testosterone and many people discouraged me. This kind of helped e to put things into perspective.
Again, a lot of things can cause the standard symptoms we associate with low testosterone, so you have to do some digging sometimes.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: Dr. John Crisler on January 01, 2018, 10:01:01 pm
I don't know how you find the time to do all you do for others. My hat's off to you, good Sir!
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on January 01, 2018, 11:24:30 pm
I don't know how you find the time to do all you do for others. My hat's off to you, good Sir!

Well, thx for saying that.  I've always said - and it's very true - that I have gotten 10X more out of  the forum than what I have put into it...
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: Dr. John Crisler on January 04, 2018, 02:59:17 am
I don't know how you find the time to do all you do for others. My hat's off to you, good Sir!

Well, thx for saying that.  I've always said - and it's very true - that I have gotten 10X more out of  the forum than what I have put into it...
For sure. I pick up SO much good stuff on the forums. All those guys out there, monitoring the Internet, then posting to help others.

It also adds to my clinical experience by reading the stories of the members.
Title: Re: The New PeakT Program
Post by: PeakT on January 04, 2018, 05:09:07 am
I don't know how you find the time to do all you do for others. My hat's off to you, good Sir!

Well, thx for saying that.  I've always said - and it's very true - that I have gotten 10X more out of  the forum than what I have put into it...
For sure. I pick up SO much good stuff on the forums. All those guys out there, monitoring the Internet, then posting to help others.

It also adds to my clinical experience by reading the stories of the members.

We also are now drowning in information. Knowledge is doubling every year or something like that.  The only reasonable solution, unless you are on Watson’s AI team, is have smart guys posting articles and ideas from their areas of interest.

This is an old article but gives the theory:

http://www.industrytap.com/knowledge-doubling-every-12-months-soon-to-be-every-12-hours/3950

“Knowledge Doubling Every 12 Months, Soon to be Every 12 Hours
By: David Russell Schilling | April 19th, 2013


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Buckminster Fuller created the “Knowledge Doubling Curve”; he noticed that until 1900 human knowledge doubled approximately every century. By the end of World War II knowledge was doubling every 25 years. Today things are not as simple as different types of knowledge have different rates of growth. For example, nanotechnology knowledge is doubling every two years and clinical knowledge every 18 months. But on average human knowledge is doubling every 13 months.  According to IBM, the build out of  the “internet of things” will lead to the doubling of knowledge every 12 hours.

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