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Title: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Bigjohn on December 24, 2013, 12:06:24 am
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Wounded Lion and anyone else out there having problems with erections, I want to document how iwas able to achieve an erection just about whenever I want one. My ED problems began about 4 years ago. I became very frustrated and tried to find out what caused the problem. I researched eveything and pretty much had given up. About 4 months ago my urologist suggested I try daily Cialis. It seemed to work some but could only achieve an erection of 6 on a scale of ten. I then read where alpha blockers seem to help some men by themselves (you can google this and learn the reason) but when accompanied by Cialis it could take things to a new level. I decided on Doxazosin because of the long half life (about 22 hours same as cialis). WOW all I can say it works. So here's my protocol. I'm not really sure how much everything costs but I could figure it up if needed.
Obviously I'm not a doctor and some men may not respond the same but it could be worth a try. By the way I'm peeing a whole lt better also.

Morning
5 mg. Tadalifil (generic) Cialis
1-2 mg. of Doxazosin
1 scoop of a combo Arginine/Citruline

Evening
Repeat
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: PeakT on December 24, 2013, 01:13:24 am
I don't know the standard dosing for Doxazosin, but that's a pretty beefy daily dose of Cialis I believe.  I'm sure you know this but Cialis daily is 5 mg I believe.  I'm sure you're just ecstatic to get the soldier back at attention, but I'm just passing along info.  Cialis daily is 2.5 and 5 mg according to my understanding:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/93391.php
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: WoundedLion on December 24, 2013, 04:07:38 pm
hey BigJohn  thanks for this , could you point me (or send the link) where you read where alpha blockers help ED please , i have been googling but i wanna be sure i read or hit the right stuff.I am pleased with your  results well done ..but please done leeave the forum keep coming on here and give us hope and new changes or any positive improvements or observations from your protocol....do you mind if i ask your age and severity of your ED

I like to think I am very fit and try to keep extremely healthy i have got high blood pressure though , but theres been history of stroke and high blood pressure in the family.Thanks have a good Xmas
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: WoundedLion on December 24, 2013, 05:01:19 pm
Peak,BigJohn,
its funny i rather read that Doxasozin can rather cause ED rather than cure it .. very conflicting im confused ..i think i read the same for Naltrexone
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Bigjohn on December 24, 2013, 09:55:04 pm
This a very long thread on Dr. John's site but well worth the read.
http://www.allthingsmale.com/forum/showthread.php?19251-Ultimate-Adrenergic-Control-of-Erections (http://www.allthingsmale.com/forum/showthread.php?19251-Ultimate-Adrenergic-Control-of-Erections)BTW I have experienced no side effects.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: mrmagoo2010 on December 25, 2013, 02:33:53 am
Yep I also read alpha blockers helping with ED, they boost the effects of pde5

If you want to take it up a notch, I also heard small dosage of t3 helps with NO oxide too, and Hydrocortisone also helps

T3 + PDE5
AB + PDE5
HC + PDE5

Yohimbe also works similiar to an alpha blocker, and whenever I take yohimbe I notice a much stronger erection
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: PeakT on December 25, 2013, 07:18:56 am
Yep I also read alpha blockers helping with ED, they boost the effects of pde5

If you want to take it up a notch, I also heard small dosage of t3 helps with NO oxide too, and Hydrocortisone also helps

T3 + PDE5
AB + PDE5
HC + PDE5

Yohimbe also works similiar to an alpha blocker, and whenever I take yohimbe I notice a much stronger erection

Good points but a few comments:

--You should not take T3 w/o testing.  Not everyone is hypothyroid of course.

--HC is pretty powerful stuff and imo you want to make sure that you are low before taking that.

--Yohimbe has an alpha blocker in it.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Bigjohn on December 25, 2013, 06:50:27 pm
I tried yohimbine and it did nothing for me.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: PeakT on December 25, 2013, 08:22:18 pm
I tried yohimbine and it did nothing for me.

Yes and even the pharmaceutical alpha blockers do not work for every guy.  I'm sure it depends on the underlying issue...
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: mrmagoo2010 on December 25, 2013, 09:24:18 pm
I tried yohimbine and it did nothing for me.

HCL or bark extract? the bark extract is the best one for this
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Inigo on December 29, 2013, 09:25:54 pm
Peak,BigJohn,
its funny i rather read that Doxasozin can rather cause ED rather than cure it .. very conflicting im confused ..i think i read the same for Naltrexone

I've been on doxasozin for five years, but I don't think it's helped with my erections. Vasoviril was another alpha blocker specifically marketed for ED, but I think it's recently ceased production.  I've just started naltrexone, and it has unfortunate side effects. In daily doses of 50mg there are two trials suggesting it has good effect of erections (in cases of psychogenic dysfunction).  But I've read a report saying that daily doses of 100-200mg reduced the libido of juvenile sexual 'offenders'. Naltrexone can also put you off alcohol in even 50mg doses.  Perhaps a gradual low-dose start on the naltrexone is the answer.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: WoundedLion on December 29, 2013, 10:39:18 pm
BigJohn are you still enjoying the benefits of your Cialis+Doxazosin protocol please keep us updated ...is it consistently effective
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Bigjohn on December 29, 2013, 10:54:54 pm
Yes it's still working. I gave it a 2 day rest and started back yesterday.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: PeakT on December 30, 2013, 06:30:32 am


I've been on doxasozin for five years, but I don't think it's helped with my erections. Vasoviril was another alpha blocker specifically marketed for ED, but I think it's recently ceased production.  I've just started naltrexone, and it has unfortunate side effects. In daily doses of 50mg there are two trials suggesting it has good effect of erections (in cases of psychogenic dysfunction).  But I've read a report saying that daily doses of 100-200mg reduced the libido of juvenile sexual 'offenders'. Naltrexone can also put you off alcohol in even 50mg doses.  Perhaps a gradual low-dose start on the naltrexone is the answer.

Can I ask why you've been on Doxazonin for five years if it hasn't done that much for you?
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Inigo on December 30, 2013, 10:19:32 pm
Habit really.  I get it supplied on the NHS.  It keeps my blood pressure down to less than 120/80. And I just suspect, after reading some very positive trial results,  that without it things might get worse
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: PeakT on December 31, 2013, 01:21:25 am
Habit really.  I get it supplied on the NHS.  It keeps my blood pressure down to less than 120/80. And I just suspect, after reading some very positive trial results,  that without it things might get worse

Oh, for hypertension!  Makes sense.  Okay, can I ask how much your blood pressure was before?
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: WoundedLion on December 31, 2013, 04:54:00 pm
BiGJohn, was prehypertension or hypertension one of your symptoms when you started experiencing ED, was your blood pressure high?, were you taking any medication for it, was your ED induced by high blood pressure or did you start taking Doxazosin just to treat ED.. Please us know
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Bigjohn on December 31, 2013, 07:52:51 pm
I was a little hyper and I've been on and off ofblood pressure meds. When I went on TRT the DR.put me on an ACE inhibitor but since the Cialis and Dox I haven't needed it, in fact some days it borders on low. It's my understanding that all of the PDE5 inhibitors started as high blood pressure meds.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: mrmagoo2010 on January 03, 2014, 09:19:23 pm
I took my first 2mg dox pill 30 mins ago, how long until it " kicks in" ?
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Bigjohn on January 04, 2014, 08:41:12 pm
I would spread it out. 2 in the morning and then 2 later. If you haven't noticed anything within  2 days then you will have to add Cialis 5 mg.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: mrmagoo2010 on January 04, 2014, 09:44:25 pm
I would spread it out. 2 in the morning and then 2 later. If you haven't noticed anything within  2 days then you will have to add Cialis 5 mg.

so, 8mg /day?
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: Bigjohn on January 06, 2014, 10:51:18 pm
8 mg is most likely too much. I use 1 mg twice a day. Any more than that and I would check with your doctor.
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: mrmagoo2010 on January 06, 2014, 11:01:00 pm
I took 4mg split into 2 doses, so 2x2mg.. I was out of breath the whole day
Title: Re: Cialis and Doxazosin Cured My Erectile Dysfunction
Post by: PeakT on January 07, 2014, 05:15:47 am
Please see BigJohn's post about alpha blockers combined with a PDE5 Inhibitor for BPH:

https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2967.0

Cialis and alpha blockers are commonly prescribed for BPH, so I guess combining them makes sense.  Watch out for priapism if you try this (under a doc's supervision of course).