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Title: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on June 13, 2012, 06:53:04 pm
So I have a question for all of you:

I've noticed that a significant percentage of men on this board either struggle with depression currently or have struggled with it in the recent past.  I want to ask all of you:

1.  Do you think that low testosterone caused your depression or the other way around?
2.  Do you think that any meds you were taking for depression created any kind of sexual dysfunctions?
3.  Any tips for guys going through the same thing?  Did anything make a big difference?  (For some of you it may be testosterone!)
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: mobil014 on June 13, 2012, 07:06:51 pm
I believe that I have some depression, but I am not taking any meds.  I believe the low T is a factor, and I hope that upcoming HRT therapy will help.  I think it will.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on June 13, 2012, 08:36:55 pm
It will almost for sure help.  It takes time though usually...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Dermotm55 on June 13, 2012, 11:27:28 pm
1.  Do you think that low testosterone caused your depression or the other way around?

I think depression reduced my T in my late teens.

2.  Do you think that any meds you were taking for depression created any kind of sexual dysfunctions?

Yes. Seroxat (Paxil) has, I believe, left me with some sexual dysfunction. I stopped taking it about 10 years ago.

3.  Any tips for guys going through the same thing?  Did anything make a big difference?  (For some of you it may be testosterone!)

Drugs might help if things are really bad, but if possible, avoid them. See a therapist, get exercise, try to change the aspects of life which get you down, where doing so is reasonable.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: spiderman on June 14, 2012, 10:02:56 am
My situation caused my to feel down, anxious and stressed. I think that lowered my T levels which I feel pushed me into full blown depression.
Then of course you are in the vicious loop of feeling down/ no energy which of course takes your levels down even more.

A few helpers..

1) Avoid the anti depressants at all costs I did and chose a herbal tab to help me through the worse times

2) Excercise...you don't feel like doing anything but you have to and it releases the old feel good endorphins

3) Try not to dwell on negative thoughts..convert them in positive by thinking about things you could do to improve your situation.

4) Avoid being on your own for long spells, surround yourself with loving family members and friends  when you can.

5)Look at your progress as you start feeling better and use that as a gauge that you are improving.

6)Improve diet, take supps or anything else required that pulls your body and mind back up into the  zone where it should be. Negative thoughts will become less frequent and I think you just get that feeling of your life force returning...then the old libido follows of course

Keep fighting...

Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: WorldlyPatriot on July 07, 2012, 05:22:57 pm
1.  Do you think that low testosterone caused your depression or the other way around?
Since this is my first post, I'd like to say that I will eventually get around to introducing myself.  I started TRT on May 10, and I may have something to contribute to the forum, and you can help me (I hope!)

To answer the question, I can't say, for sure.  I hate to admit it, but I have taken antidepressants, extensively, for many years.  Nothing has helped, so far.  My TRT, to date, has done nothing for my depression, irritability, lack of libido, and unusual weakness.  But, it's early.  I've had six injections in 12 weeks (200mg testosterone cypionate).
2.  Do you think that any meds you were taking for depression created any kind of sexual dysfunctions?
Absolutely!  The main sexual side effect, for me, was difficulty in reaching orgasm, or delayed orgasm.  For guys with premature ejaculation problems, I've read that some have been treated with an antidepressant.
3.  Any tips for guys going through the same thing?  Did anything make a big difference?  (For some of you it may be testosterone!)
The jury is still out.  I'm waiting for my latest blood test (total testosterone and free testosterone).  Unfortunately, after six injections, the only thing I've noticed is a return of early-morning erections, which were absent for a long time.

In summary, I will write more, later, on my experience with TRT.

Regards!
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: kevinlee on July 07, 2012, 05:54:49 pm
1.  Do you think that low testosterone caused your depression or the other way around?
Jury is out - just started treatment for testosterone
2.  Do you think that any meds you were taking for depression created any kind of sexual dysfunctions?
Yes. esp. Lexapro
3.  Any tips for guys going through the same thing?  Did anything make a big difference?  (For some of you it may be testosterone!)
Watch weight gain... Docs will say meds are "weight neutral" - right, 100 million people just by random gained significant weight when they started taking an anti-depressant and wrote about it on the internet. After 1.5 years of taking Lex and gaining about 2 lb/mo I switched meds and with no change in diet/exercise lost 20 lb in just a couple months. I'm not Lexapro bashing, just saying different meds have different effects on each person. If you get weight gain, ask to try something different.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: FightLowT on July 07, 2012, 07:29:07 pm
I took zoloft when I was 21 during a period of a year for deep depression and it did in fact help. I did notice I developed delayed ejaculation syndrome with it. Erection quality/stamina however was superb and if I had been sexually active with a girl during that time period she would have been mesmerized by my stamina. I remember making out with a girl one night while "watching a movie" back then and literally kept a diamond cutting erection for about two hours straight while on the zoloft. Please don't think I'm claiming zoloft is viagra, (being 21 was the primary reason for the qaulity erections) it's just that delayed orgasm at that age will make it seem like it is viagra. I'm sure now at 33 the results of zoloft would be less profound. Again after a year I weaned myself off of it slowly of which my depression had subsided and literally felt fine for at least another 7-8 years of so before any other depressive symptoms resurfaced.

My depression came back with a vengeance in winter 2010 and I learned I had low T as a result in April 2011. I took lexapro for a week at 10mg and after reading about ssri side effects decided the risks vs. rewards were too great to consider continuing the medication . Yes zoloft didnt seem to leave any long term side effects as far as I know as I remained a healthy, horny guy through my 20's after cessation, but now in my early 30's I do not want to increase any chances or difficulties in recovering what I feel to be optimum health. If I did not suffer from low testosterone symptoms and had a testosterone level that would suggest I have none of the symptoms (500+ ng/dl) then maybe I would consider an ssri. However with mine averaging in the mid 300's mostly for morning readings seems to be a clear indicator to any knowledgeable physician that my depression definately is not being helped by those sub-standard T levels.

Depression and low T is an intriguing topic. I think experts also do not know what comes first as it pertains to cause and effect. I believe that many times depression is caused by circumstances in life that lead to depression and this in turn causes one to have less than optimal body health, hormones, etc. Americans are extremely depressed people and unhealthy as a result. If you were to take a handful of people from every country in the world and do comprehensive studies on them ranging from physical parameters, bloodwork/ metabolic panels, and psychological profiling you would without question find that the Americans have more mental disorders and health issues than all the other people in the world. Why is that? Well it's extremely complicated. I touced briefly on it on another post some time ago. https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=289.msg2579#msg2579
Being an American male in the present is not what it used to be 15-20 years ago. I can assure you of that. Culturally as a whole we are experiencing a crisis that is causing a profound shift in human behavior patterns which are having profound impacts on our health regarding basic human needs. This is just one example but lonliness is a growing epidemic and I fear the future holds dire consequences as a result. However it is not just culturally but enviromental as well. Essentially what I'm getting at is that being an American almost guarantees that your human needs are not being properly met. I'll put it this way. George Carlin once said, "When you are born in this world you are born into the freak show, when you are born in America you got a front seat". 

Does this cause depression? Absolutely!
Does the depression cause low-T? It damn sure doesn't raise it!
Does the low-T cause more depression? YES!

Obviously there is a twisted synergy going on between depression and low-testosterone, but we need more studies exploring how both relate to one another regarding internal and external factors.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on July 08, 2012, 12:18:22 am
One of the reasons I started the thread: 

I had very significant depression in college for a year or two.  I recovered from that, but then over the next 20-25 years, I had a general sense of "melancholy".  In fact, I considered myself a "melancholy", i.e. that personality type. 

Now the interesting thing is that once I recovered my health is that all of this disappeared.  I am very happy to say that I never get depressed and do not even think of myself as melancholy.

I think the complete recovery is

1) good nutrition and exercise (and probably fish oil)
2) decent testosterone
3) a good woman.

But I am fascinated with mind-body connection and hope to do more on the site with it eventually.  I also think that the human mind is just incredibly fascinating and far more powerful than we realize.  I don't mean anything weird there, but I just hate to see so many people waste the end (and even the middle in some cases) of their lives due to cognitive and psychological issues.

So any ideas/contributions/comments you guys have on the subject are of great interest...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: makingsteel on July 08, 2012, 04:42:14 am

A few helpers..

1) Avoid the anti depressants at all costs I did and chose a herbal tab to help me through the worse times

2) Excercise...you don't feel like doing anything but you have to and it releases the old feel good endorphins

3) Try not to dwell on negative thoughts..convert them in positive by thinking about things you could do to improve your situation.

4) Avoid being on your own for long spells, surround yourself with loving family members and friends  when you can.

5)Look at your progress as you start feeling better and use that as a gauge that you are improving.

6)Improve diet, take supps or anything else required that pulls your body and mind back up into the  zone where it should be. Negative thoughts will become less frequent and I think you just get that feeling of your life force returning...then the old libido follows of course

Keep fighting...

WELL SAID!!!!
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: kevinlee on July 08, 2012, 01:35:27 pm

2) Excercise...you don't feel like doing anything but you have to and it releases the old feel good endorphins

4) Avoid being on your own for long spells, surround yourself with loving family members and friends  when you can.

Bingo and Bingo for me. esp #2 - Mind/Body connection body feels good due to endorphin release, but mentally there is the obvious sense of accomplishment and the idea of "I took care of myself today". Your brain (and every cell in your body, for that matter) is benefiting from extra oxygen in your blood. For me (I like cycling), working out is like meditation. About two miles into a ride and any thoughts of the ex, the banks whatever are gone... mind  is clear and I'm in the moment.

I'm also lucky enough to have a friend who likes company and I can't tell you how many times I've left thinking  was sure better off going there for a while rather than stewing in my own pity.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: kcwebguy on July 08, 2012, 01:59:14 pm
I think the complete recovery is

1) good nutrition and exercise (and probably fish oil)
2) decent testosterone
3) a good woman.

But I am fascinated with mind-body connection and hope to do more on the site with it eventually.  I also think that the human mind is just incredibly fascinating and far more powerful than we realize.  I don't mean anything weird there, but I just hate to see so many people waste the end (and even the middle in some cases) of their lives due to cognitive and psychological issues.

Peak, I could not agree with you more. I would add a #4, that being a connection with a higher power or powerful force that exists outside of ourselves. In my case, it's Christianity and the Lord. (I am not a Holy Roller, BTW) For others it might be grass and trees. All primitive cultures in existence today have beliefs in powers outside of themselves. I think this is critical to our health and development, and to experiencing a complete recovery.

Let me also say that the wrong woman paired up with the wrong man can be more than disastrous. To follow that, the right woman paired up with the right man can be a blissful walk from here to eternity... and a hell of a lot of fun in between. =D

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Someone

Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: spiderman on July 08, 2012, 06:50:38 pm
Thanks for the positive comments- makingsteel and Kevinlee..

Any sports are good but I found trying something new was great for the challenge ..if you throw in some weightraining as well you are not only getting  the endorphins but you are getting a T kick as well..it makes it all the better...

There is no doubt it is a terrible slog to start cause you lose interest IN EVERYTHING!.. all you want to do is hide from the world , stay in your bed, not socialise and take the wrong road through alchohol and the rest. Its a massive fight for sure but your body starts to reward you if you stick to your guns..colours return and so does your life...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on July 08, 2012, 09:40:22 pm


Peak, I could not agree with you more. I would add a #4, that being a connection with a higher power or powerful force that exists outside of ourselves. In my case, it's Christianity and the Lord. (I am not a Holy Roller, BTW) For others it might be grass and trees. All primitive cultures in existence today have beliefs in powers outside of themselves. I think this is critical to our health and development, and to experiencing a complete recovery.


I try to keep the forum comfortable for everyone and I have some unorthodox beliefs, but I am in agreement...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Prsartist on July 09, 2012, 03:04:11 am
There is NO question (In my mind low T causes depression)
As I spent 3 years trying different medications with NO relief at all!

So many different things cause depression symptoms
Although I've only been on HRT for a couple weeks, I can definitely notice a difference.
(not a BIG difference) and not necessarily depression relief by itself.

Its very difficult to describe.
It feels as if I am changing as a person.  I'm less emotionally "unstable"
I feel more in control of my life and not just a spectator.

Unfortunately I just had part of my kidney removed last week and
And biopsy came back as RCC (cancer).  I "STILL" feel less depressed than before
I started HRT. 
I did lose quite a bit of blood during surgery, as they had some problems
Getting the bleeding under control, so I've been in quite a bit of discomfort to say the least.
But I do keep an eye on this board (and now a cancer board!)
As I can't afford to put my faith in Dr's anymore...

I do believe ANY hormonal problem can cause depression!
But at least now I have an idea of what's going on, it gets really frustrating
When all  Dr's tell you is that "everything looks normal"...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on July 09, 2012, 03:46:11 am
Prsartist:  Very sorry to hear it.  So, if I can ask, were they just doing a biopsy or were they actually removing some cancerous tissue?  I got the impression they did both?
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Prsartist on July 09, 2012, 04:33:36 am
It was a small cyst. To risky to do needle biopsy (could easily spread it), they generally observe them and look for signs. Then remove them then biopsy.
They (and I) suspected it probably was.

They think they got it all, but they have their eye on a few other things more closely now.
Something I will likely be tested for the rest of my life..
These things can come back at any time..
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on July 09, 2012, 01:36:42 pm
Gotcha.  Well, sounds like you're okay for now - glad to hear it...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: makingsteel on July 10, 2012, 03:50:00 am
It sounds like you are going through a rough time in your life healthwise . Your feelings are justified as I would be . No one likes health problems and the feeling of our own mortality. That's why it's so important to live each day the way you choose it. My wife just asked me recently what's on my bucket list? I said I have done most everything I wanted to do. So I gave it some thought. Run with the Bulls!  Sounds like a T boost huh?  ;)
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Prsartist on July 10, 2012, 04:56:31 am
Well I do feel a little better today, I'm actually looking forward to my 3rd T injection Wednesday
As Im sure with my blood loss my levels are near pitiful again.

Ive been going through feeling lousy for years with no relief!
I had given up hope before finding this site,  I'm glad I found a dr.
Who actually listened to me as I don't know how much strength I would of had to keep perusing
It!  I just hope I can salvage some kind of rewarding life out of the years
I have left...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on July 10, 2012, 02:22:16 pm
Well I do feel a little better today, I'm actually looking forward to my 3rd T injection Wednesday
As Im sure with my blood loss my levels are near pitiful again.

Ive been going through feeling lousy for years with no relief!
I had given up hope before finding this site,  I'm glad I found a dr.
Who actually listened to me as I don't know how much strength I would of had to keep perusing
It!  I just hope I can salvage some kind of rewarding life out of the years
I have left...

Hang in there as, assuming the doc significantly boosts your T (and injections should do it), you'll steadily feel better almost for sure.  There's not guarantee, of course, but usually HRT therapy does make a difference in mood.  You should notice anxiety, depressive feelings, libido and so on improving.  Of course, you have a lot going on, but I'm just pointing out that many on the board have had of these improved through HRT and there's no reason to think you will not also.

Question:  how often are you getting the injections?
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Prsartist on July 10, 2012, 02:26:53 pm
1cc every week
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on July 10, 2012, 02:43:31 pm
Gotcha.  Weekly is better so just checking...
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: xrayguy on August 15, 2015, 03:22:34 pm
I know this is an old thread but I felt compelled to add my 2 cents.

1.  Do you think that low testosterone caused your depression or the other way around?

I am quite certain that low testosterone caused my severe depression and anxiety. I first started getting tired all the time, and weak in the gym. I had my T tested and it was low, but no doctor I saw would do anything about the T problem. Over a period of 3-4 years, I declined to being a complete nightmare. I wasn't myself, was severely depressed and had panic attacks. I eventually ended up in psychiatry and told the psychiatrist that I had low T. He told me that low T can definitely cause anxiety and depression, but not necessarily the other way around. He said they have thousands of men with clinical depression and anxiety with normal T levels. That being said, it took me YEARS and paying for a private doctor before I could start T treatment. I've been on HRT for about 6 weeks now and am seeing some improvement, but it's slow.


2.  Do you think that any meds you were taking for depression created any kind of sexual dysfunctions?

Definitely. I was on 5 different anti-depressants and they all made me sick as a dog. Nausea, vomiting, hospital visits, dilated pupils and hospital visits. I had depersonalization/derealization that would make your head spin. Not only that, but these medications total messed up my digestive system for months.

I was also on three different benzodiazepines for the anxiety and these had serious emotional effects. I felt a loss of cognitive ability and complete apathy. I also had serious lack of inhibition which lead to some unfortunate consequences.

3.  Any tips for guys going through the same thing?  Did anything make a big difference?  (For some of you it may be testosterone!)

This all started slowly and progressed into an absolute nightmare. The entire time, we knew my T was low by several tests, but nothing was ever done about it. The psychiatric route absolutely made everything worse for me.

My advice: Listen to your body. You know the difference between feeling a little down or discouraged and "holy crap, my body and mind are completely falling apart here". If you feel weak, tired, depressed, anxious and you were not that way before, something has changed and it may not just be in your head. Get a couple of testosterone tests (more than one is good to confirm). Don't let your doctor tell you that you're "normal" because you score 310 when the range is 300-1000. You need to take into consideration your age when looking at these numbers. For guys 30-50 years old, you're wanting around 500-1000. If your T is low, try lifestyle changes to boost your T naturally (exercise, diet, etc) then retest. If your still low and symptoms persist, and certainly if you are over 40 years old, go to a HRT clinic where the doctors specialize in this area. They will do the proper testing and follow up. Most doctors, including endocrinologists and urologists, have no idea about low T and it's devastating effects, nor how to treat you properly, you will be turned away and eventually end up in a psychiatrists office, then the true hell will begin.

Most importantly, DONT GIVE UP. Tell yourself every day that you are in a trial and there will eventually be a solution. Keep pushing and searching.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: OS on August 15, 2015, 05:36:40 pm
I suspect I've had lowish testosterone all my life, though I didn't get tested until a year ago (low end of normal in Spring 2014, definitely below normal in Spring 2015).  And I've had mild depression off and on---never to the point of taking SSRI's, but I've taken St John's Wort for years.  With a lifetime of this, it's impossible to know which caused the other.

I'd encourage the moderator to ask a similar question about anxiety rather than depression.  Anxiety has been a bigger feature of my life than depression, particularly in the last few years.  Again, I'm lacking testosterone data from more than 1.5 years ago, but "something" started happening 3-4 years ago---for example, I developed a fear of air travel, having flown with pleasure for 25 years previously.  Similarly with increasing anxiety about being far from home, or about being in confined spaces from which I couldn't immediately escape. And I grew increasingly overwhelmed, intellectually and emotionally, by tasks at work which previously I'd embraced.  Then when life really gave me things to be anxious about in the last half year, I fell apart (emotionally and T-level).  I developed libido/ED problems in May (which of course doesn't help with anxiety!) but mercifully started TRT (compounded cream) in early July.  It's hasn't solved all my problems (just about lost my mind being stuck in an hours-long traffic jam a few weeks ago), and we're still adjusting dosages to get beyond the quite modest improvements in T levels, but the anxiety / sense-of-well-being situation is much improved.  I remember, just a week into TRT, being in a couple of situations where my mind told me, "This is the sort of situation that generates anxiety/panic in you," but my body simply wasn't producing anxious feelings.  It was uncanny.

As a follow-up:  I'm curious whether other posters got "early warning" of Low T via depression/anxiety, ahead of more obvious sexual issues like low libido or ED. 
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: PeakT on August 15, 2015, 05:54:03 pm
I suspect I've had lowish testosterone all my life, though I didn't get tested until a year ago (low end of normal in Spring 2014, definitely below normal in Spring 2015).  And I've had mild depression off and on---never to the point of taking SSRI's, but I've taken St John's Wort for years.  With a lifetime of this, it's impossible to know which caused the other.

I'd encourage the moderator to ask a similar question about anxiety rather than depression.  Anxiety has been a bigger feature of my life than depression, particularly in the last few years.  Again, I'm lacking testosterone data from more than 1.5 years ago, but "something" started happening 3-4 years ago---for example, I developed a fear of air travel, having flown with pleasure for 25 years previously.  Similarly with increasing anxiety about being far from home, or about being in confined spaces from which I couldn't immediately escape. And I grew increasingly overwhelmed, intellectually and emotionally, by tasks at work which previously I'd embraced.  Then when life really gave me things to be anxious about in the last half year, I fell apart (emotionally and T-level).  I developed libido/ED problems in May (which of course doesn't help with anxiety!) but mercifully started TRT (compounded cream) in early July.  It's hasn't solved all my problems (just about lost my mind being stuck in an hours-long traffic jam a few weeks ago), and we're still adjusting dosages to get beyond the quite modest improvements in T levels, but the anxiety / sense-of-well-being situation is much improved.  I remember, just a week into TRT, being in a couple of situations where my mind told me, "This is the sort of situation that generates anxiety/panic in you," but my body simply wasn't producing anxious feelings.  It was uncanny.

As a follow-up:  I'm curious whether other posters got "early warning" of Low T via depression/anxiety, ahead of more obvious sexual issues like low libido or ED.

Start a thread please.  You'll word it better than I will.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Nocturne on August 15, 2015, 06:12:49 pm
Huh.  I was just thinking about this very subject.

I didn't notice anything wrong with me until the sudden onset of ED in early May.  I'm sure that my extremely low T at the time must have had something to do with it (although to be fair, I didn't get my T tested until maybe three weeks later, at which point my panic about the sudden severe ED might have affected my T levels, from what I'm hearing).

I've never been what I'd call depressed before - although I'm using my ex-wife as a yardstick here, and she had chronic severe depression that required multiple hospitalizations, ECT treatments, etc.  the closest I've come were my divorce (involving an infant child) and some horrible horrible classes I taught about four years back (city high school classes where a student threatened to shoot me, I was assaulted twice by students, and every other student was an alphabet soup of behavior disorders). 

Recently I think I have become depressed, and this was made more clear to me last week when I doubled my Clomid dose and felt normal for about a week (Arimidex might have helped).  ED all but disappeared, and I felt great.  It didn't last, sadly.

However, there's a case that could be made that I'm really just emotionally labile.  For example, I was just out shopping with my wife, and in the liquor store (we have company coming tonight) I literally went from going around a corner to weep in peace for a moment to feeling high as a kite in the space of five to ten minutes.  I explained this to my wife (who is herself a doc) with a bit of irritation but also an urging to talk to me lots now because I'm feeling great for some reason.  Understand that I have never been on mess for depression or any other psychological issue (my mother had schizophrenia so I was worried about developing that and kept an eye on myself until about age 30 or so).

So, if I have depression, it was almost certainly brought on by low T, or perhaps just Clomid.  Or ED, because generally speaking when my erections are working well I'm feeling good.  Who knows?

Peak is completely right that a good woman is an important part of feeling better.  When my wife comes home and I put my head in her lap on the couch, I seem to instantly feel a lot better.
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: euphorixx1 on August 15, 2015, 06:54:42 pm
1.  Do you think that low testosterone caused your depression or the other way around?
Since this is my first post, I'd like to say that I will eventually get around to introducing myself.  I started TRT on May 10, and I may have something to contribute to the forum, and you can help me (I hope!)

To answer the question, I can't say, for sure.  I hate to admit it, but I have taken antidepressants, extensively, for many years.  Nothing has helped, so far.  My TRT, to date, has done nothing for my depression, irritability, lack of libido, and unusual weakness.  But, it's early.  I've had six injections in 12 weeks (200mg testosterone cypionate).
2.  Do you think that any meds you were taking for depression created any kind of sexual dysfunctions?
Absolutely!  The main sexual side effect, for me, was difficulty in reaching orgasm, or delayed orgasm.  For guys with premature ejaculation problems, I've read that some have been treated with an antidepressant.

It isnt working for you because your protocol sucks.  Switch to 100mg a week or 50 every 3.5 days.
3.  Any tips for guys going through the same thing?  Did anything make a big difference?  (For some of you it may be testosterone!)
The jury is still out.  I'm waiting for my latest blood test (total testosterone and free testosterone).  Unfortunately, after six injections, the only thing I've noticed is a return of early-morning erections, which were absent for a long time.

In summary, I will write more, later, on my experience with TRT.

Regards!
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Profion on August 15, 2015, 10:24:37 pm
After testicular cancer, chemo, and surgeries. I decided to backpack india one month after the intire bunk of this "Bad choice, but did it anyway" Throughout my traveling i became more tired, coudent battle side effect and eventually started to shed some of the new hair growth i had.

Did bloodwork while travleing and believe numbers came in 290TT and FT 9nmol wich is shitty all over. Other hormones were off aswell.

I felt depressed, sad, none energetic and overall not worth living. Comming back to Denmark i managed to get my levels up to 16nmol wich is not low nor high... but i was ran over and beardloss affected me

Started TRT and got my life back!
Title: Re: ROLL CALL: Depression
Post by: Runnerman on August 16, 2015, 05:44:54 pm
I was feeling like I was depressed at the first part of the year. Just seemed down a lot. Was also tired and fatigued. On 2 pumps of Androgel a day which is not enough but it put my bioavailabie and total T numbers "in range". Doc didn't want to have me do injections. ( I know, have go a different direction)


My PCP had me try Lexapro. Was on that for 3 months but didn't feel like it was helping me. It seemed to make me more lethargic. Zombie like at times. I've never had ED problems with the low T but on the Lexapro there was definitely an impact with delayed climax. Classic side effect of Lexapro.

I weaned off Lexapro and actually have felt a bit better since.