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Title: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: robb65 on February 02, 2015, 02:47:45 am
Kierkegaard,

Newby to the forum here and am blown away by your breakdown of injection protocols. I'm 65 and been on Cyp for about a year. My doc has me at 150 every 3 weeks but it ain't working, I'm thankful he lets me inject (tried to force the gel but it didn't work) yet I don't think he knows what he is doing so your information is priceless. I see him this week after labs so will try and educate him.

Question for you though; in your injection schedule in your handle you've moved from IM to subq with great results but have stopped taking Dim-plus and zinc, why? I thought it would be better to use more "natural" support and decrease the amount of cyp you're injecting.

Thanks again for your info.
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Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: Kierkegaard on February 02, 2015, 04:03:46 am
Kierkegaard,

Newby to the forum here and am blown away by your breakdown of injection protocols. I'm 65 and been on Cyp for about a year. My doc has me at 150 every 3 weeks but it ain't working, I'm thankful he lets me inject (tried to force the gel but it didn't work) yet I don't think he knows what he is doing so your information is priceless. I see him this week after labs so will try and educate him.

Question for you though; in your injection schedule in your handle you've moved from IM to subq with great results but have stopped taking Dim-plus and zinc, why? I thought it would be better to use more "natural" support and decrease the amount of cyp you're injecting.

Thanks again for your info.
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I'm still taking them, just haven't updated my signature (in the process now).  I originally stopped taking them because my total T to estradiol ratio was something like 46:1 when I got my first blood draw results after going subq, which I considered very high so thought I needed to lower a bit.  I started taking them again when I noticed symptoms related to high E2 -- which at the time I had no idea was high for me (at around 25 pg/ml).  Currently I'm cruising at very low doses of cypionate (22 mg E3D) but will still keep taking DIM because it allows me to have slightly higher T levels relative to my estradiol level.  Probably wouldn't hurt to cut out the Zinc though, but I'll figure this out some other time. 
Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: robb65 on February 02, 2015, 02:31:11 pm
Kierkegaard,

Thank you for your fast response and all your knowledge. There seems to be a lot to learn and figure out.
Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: SteveT on February 02, 2015, 11:31:22 pm
Kierkegaard,

With 22mg of T every third day are you tracking your Hematocrit?  My biggest concern is keeping my blood viscosity low.   Also, I assume that 22 is about .120 on a 1 ml syringe? 

When using injection I was doing .25 ml subQ twice a week.  Where is the .120 holding your total and free T?

Steve
Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: VinnAY on February 03, 2015, 12:05:35 am
Kierkegaard,

With 22mg of T every third day are you tracking your Hematocrit?  My biggest concern is keeping my blood viscosity low.   Also, I assume that 22 is about .120 on a 1 ml syringe? 

When using injection I was doing .25 ml subQ twice a week.  Where is the .120 holding your total and free T?

Steve

mls and marks on a syringe are not doses. We need to know the vial dosing such as 200mg/ml, etc etc but still, ml's are not a dose, you should be speaking in mg/milligrams.
Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: SteveT on February 03, 2015, 12:09:19 am
The box reads 200 mg/m
Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: Kierkegaard on February 03, 2015, 01:26:55 am
Kierkegaard,

With 22mg of T every third day are you tracking your Hematocrit?  My biggest concern is keeping my blood viscosity low.   Also, I assume that 22 is about .120 on a 1 ml syringe? 

When using injection I was doing .25 ml subQ twice a week.  Where is the .120 holding your total and free T?

Steve

Wrote a thread on my levels very recently ("801 Total T..."), check it out. I'm getting about .11 m km for a 22 MG injection.
Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: SteveT on February 03, 2015, 01:45:09 am
Would you happen to have a link to that thread?

Steve
Title: Re: Why Did You Stop Taking Zinc and DIM?
Post by: Kierkegaard on February 03, 2015, 03:56:32 pm
Would you happen to have a link to that thread?

Steve

Sure!

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=6350.0