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Title: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Polewalker on December 03, 2012, 03:53:54 pm
What a great format this board is. Thanks  everybody that's involved. Now about me I am 63 years old when I was 49 years old my little buddy quit on me. Then at 50 I had my first heart attack needed to stents put in then at 56 I had another heart attack and I had three stents put in. Then I had two knee replacements and one gallbladder removed. And if that isn't enough when I was 60 years old my daughter passed away with cancer and that's a bitch. Then one more thing I ended up with frozen shoulders for about a year. Now I'm digging myself out of this ugly hole. Last year I started doing exercises through the winter. Started last January I was 347 pounds at 6  2 foot tall. As of today I have lost 34 pounds and starting to feel good. I'm very confused on a couple things but I think I'm doing everything right for the last six months I've been waking up with a three quarters of an erection so things are starting to work. I exercise twice a week and slow down on my eating.

Now here's where things get out of hand. I Sorted confused on what's going on with the supplements. I am takingl-arginine 8 g a day and this is help me tremendous but I've read that it goes through your kidneys.  So I'm going through all the medicine and supplements and vitamins figure out what to do and this is were I need the help.   


Medicine that I take, niaspan  1 a day 500mg , tricor 145 mg 1 a day, Glyuride 5mg. I was taking losartan pot 100mg and I stopped. But I started taking a supplement called Larginine. I was a was 140/79 now I'm 138/74. An improvement and I feel better
vitamins I take, zinc 50mg I did take the test and I did not pass so I started on this. Vitamin D 3 6000iu fish oil with omega-3 1000 mg twice a day, CO Q 10  Mg two times a day.

For my ED problem I takeL-arginine and Pycnogenol.  AndroGel 1.62  three pumps the day.

About my testosterone I was tested for it when I was 56 years old and it was 130. My doctor kept on complaining that we had to be very careful about cancer. But through the years I bugged him and I got it up to 300. About five months ago I went in there and we were talking and he finally admitted that testosterone is one of the things we need to get up he was trying to get me over 600 up to 800. So in two weeks I will be checking my blood annually and find out where I'm at.

My problem is I've read so much and learned so much but I do not know how to apply it like in making a cocktail for ED of three supplements. This is where I'm asking for help what should I do.. I have came so far in this last year that I want to prepare myself for next year and get it right and learn more. I just feel so much better take in all the supplements that I have in the last 20 years and I plan to lose another 30 pounds by July. So all the help you can give me and make it sort of simple would be appreciated. Remember you're dealing with a caveman
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 03, 2012, 04:09:51 pm
sounds like youve gone through your own personal hell with your body and your life

exercise:
do you do it?  do you lift weights or walk or both?
supplementation is just that supplementation to a healthy life, which I am unsure of your lifestyle.  you speak of doctors and drugs and so on, but what about your bodyfat now?  your weight is a huge issue(pun intended) whats your weight?

cavemen?  whats that mean?  you eat what exactly? whats your diet made of of?
Peak, et al, can help you if you let us know where you are at currently
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 03, 2012, 04:26:46 pm
Welcome, Caveman.  So you're crawling out of that cave, eh?  Been there. 

Glad things are improving and your story is a testimony to how rapidly the body can recover in spite of decades of neglect.  (Very sorry to hear about your daughter - can't imagine...)

Here are a few comments:

--I think you are going the right thing with the HRT assuming you are being properly monitored, i.e. prostate and estradiol.  You are pretty overweight, so once they boost your weight, be sure that the estradiol is checked.  There are many forum threads on the subject and I have info on my site if you are int'd.

--If you are still taking that much L-Arginine, i.e. 8 grams/day - that's a lot.  And you should know that in one study, they had 6 heart patients die taking about that dosage.  So I would be very careful taking that much and you should discuss it with your doctor.

That's not the only problem with taking L-Arginine.  Please read the bottom of this link for more information:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Arginine

--There is (generally) more effective alternative to L-Arginine called L-Citrulline.  L-Citrulline boosts L-Arginine but through a more efficient pathway:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Citrulline_Benefits

If your doctor approves it, do not take more than a gram or two as it is quite powerful.  The supplement Neo40 is expensive but also has Citrulline plus Hawthorn Berry extract and will raise nitric oxide levels from what I have seen.  It's not a "miracle worker" like Cialis but does seem to help:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Nathan_Bryan_Interview

https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=68.0

--Ginseng is another supplement that will help many men.  Korean I am talking about.  See this for a list of supplements worth considering:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Erectile_supplements

--Now one important comment:  always talk to your doc first and always consider supplements a short term alternative while you fix everything with lifestyle changes.  A Low Fat Diet (or maybe Mediterranean) + Exercise + Weight Loss + HRT will do miracles for you. 

--If you are going to try more than one supplement, I recommend trying one about every three weeks, i.e. rolling them in slowly.  Every once in awhile, you can get a side effect from a supplement or it just may not do anything for you.  If you implement them all at once, you have no idea which of the supplements is helping or caused problems, etc.

--Low Fat Diets, as long as there is no cheating, do VERY well with heart patients.  They will certainly arrest arteriosclerosis and there is evidence they will likely reverse it as well.  I just read a post recently here where one guy selling Lap Band surgeries criticized Low Fat Diets.  Look at what one of the readers wrote:

"I owe my own life to the work of these pioneers (Ornish, etc.). Two and a half years ago (at 5 I was crippled with angina and could not walk 20 feet without resting. Now I am virtually symptom free (if I eat bad I feel bad!) and work out enthusiastically at my local gym. My change of diet HAS saved my life and I feel better than I have in years. My BP is now normal - after years of being high, my bowel movements (sorry!) are better than ever and none of this advice has cost me a penny! (I must admit hat out of gratitude I have bought a few of their books!) i "

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1575-the-ornish-myth.html

--Try to not lose your muscle mass as you are dropping those pounds.  Imo you should include ample protein, preferably from lower fat sources, and do some strength/resistance training (after talking to your docs).  If you lose muscle mass, it gets harder and harder to lose and maintain weight.

And welcome to the forum.  Btw, watchntv above is our Weight Loss Wild Man:  he's lost 80 pounds and going for a 100 or so. 
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 03, 2012, 06:37:39 pm
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--Try to not lose your muscle mass as you are dropping those pounds.  Imo you should include ample protein, preferably from lower fat sources, and do some strength/resistance training (after talking to your docs).  If you lose muscle mass, it gets harder and harder to lose and maintain weight.

that's a big myth out there, that you should hang on to muscle cause without it, your calories burnt in a day will drop significantly!
Lets see
Fat also  burns calories; about 3 calories per pound but it adds up. Someone carrying 50-100 lbs of fat is burning 150-300 calories per day to sustain that fat.
You lost 34lbs of fat, you are now burning about 100 calories LESS per DAY
 muscle burns about TWICE that amount,,  HUGE right?
3 *2  =6
muscle burns about 6 calories/pound(at rest) a DAY, gain 10lbs of muscle and you can eat a whopping  60calories more a day.


Why people insist  gaining muscle is a great way to lose fat?

 there are other indirect effects of weight training, and unlike your internal organs which account for most of your daily calories expended, working out gets your muscles to work and burn more calories

so go workout and keep your muscles because muscles are what make you look good as they hold up skin, etc
ever see anyone go on a diet and not workout?  they lose weight and end up looking smaller and not unhealthy,

food sources of low fat protein are
egg whites
rice protein
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Polewalker on December 03, 2012, 06:45:27 pm
Watchntv
I have lost 3 inches in my waste this year in a 12 month period. I can walk 2 miles now and I go to the gym. On Tuesdays I do Pilates then 30 min. on the stationary bike because of my knees. Then on Tuesday the same thing. May be through the week I might go swimming. But I do not do any weight training at all and after you reply to me I looked up and I have two books on weightlifting.

Peakt

Thank you for all the information. I'm going to just take 2 g of l-arginine in the morning and that will be it. Now my diet sucks .. I do not eat enough fruits and vegetables and I do eat a lot of meat.

I did start planning on my diet first thing I'm going to do is start making gluten free bread. I was reading a bunch of articles on wheat belly and it does make sense to me.
So now I'm going to have a game plan with low-fat   vegetables and fruit.

last year for exercise before I started Pilates and everything else. I can only get on the stationary bike and maybe go 10 min. Now I can get on the stationary bike and go 30 min. plus the program I can go to six on that scale.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: bubba29 on December 03, 2012, 06:48:19 pm
there is a very tight correlation with gallbladder issues and gluten intolerance.



i bet if you cut out gluten containing grains, you'd feel much better and lose a lot of weight on top of that.  i suggest you read a book called wheat belly.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 03, 2012, 07:33:40 pm
Watchntv
I have lost 3 inches in my waste this year in a 12 month period. I can walk 2 miles now and I go to the gym. On Tuesdays I do Pilates then 30 min. on the stationary bike because of my knees. Then on Tuesday the same thing. May be through the week I might go swimming. But I do not do any weight training at all and after you reply to me I looked up and I have two books on weightlifting.


It's a good start,  but 2 books on weight training?
dont rush out to start lifting, but  read them and go actually do the weight lifting
but the much bigger issue you have is the extra weight you are carrying, which means diet time
remember, basically any diet works that has you burning more calories than you eat

example, the twinkie diet, http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

where a teacher(Haub) lost 27lbs in 2 months eating:  Two-thirds of his total calories came from junk food.(twinkies, Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos,)  He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.

results:  BMI  dropped 28.8 to 24.9
LDL(BAD) dropped 20%
HDL(GOOD) increased by  20%
triglycerides  down  39%

He also has a shelf life of 2000 years(thanks to eating Hostess cakes and lots of preservatives)

Point being that any diet will work, if you eat less than you burn
Although Haub(guy in the diet) made some great progress, eating a high fat diet filled with excitotoxins/preservatives is not the way to go to get the "little guy" going again.  You dont want those things!

Look around Peaks articles,  pick up some of his E-books and start learning his scientfically proven methodolody.

Maybe you know already, heart and penis get affected by the same things, when one is unhealthy, likely the other is going to follow soon
your weight is your biggest risk.....work hard to get to your BMI...which mean you want to be under 191lbs


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22530540
CONCLUSIONS:

The results demonstrate significant relationships between BMI and mortality from all causes, CVD and cancer. The increased risk of all-cause, CVD and cancer mortality associated with an elevated BMI was significant at levels above 30 kg/m2; however, overweight individuals (BMI 25-29.9 kg/m2) also had an approximately 60% higher risk of CVD mortality.


Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 03, 2012, 11:28:27 pm

Why people insist  gaining muscle is a great way to lose fat?

 there are other indirect effects of weight training, and unlike your internal organs which account for most of your daily calories expended, working out gets your muscles to work and burn more calories

so go workout and keep your muscles because muscles are what make you look good as they hold up skin, etc
ever see anyone go on a diet and not workout?  they lose weight and end up looking smaller and not unhealthy,


Well, okay, I didn't really mean to say that.  What I was really trying to say that it's not good when people lose weight and sluff off a bunch of muscle with the fat.

By the way, there's another critical reason to put on muscle though:  it appears to lower your chance for diabetes, metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance.  It appears to be an independent risk factor, although I have a theory about that...
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 04, 2012, 12:44:59 am

Why people insist  gaining muscle is a great way to lose fat?

 there are other indirect effects of weight training, and unlike your internal organs which account for most of your daily calories expended, working out gets your muscles to work and burn more calories

so go workout and keep your muscles because muscles are what make you look good as they hold up skin, etc
ever see anyone go on a diet and not workout?  they lose weight and end up looking smaller and not unhealthy,


Well, okay, I didn't really mean to say that.  What I was really trying to say that it's not good when people lose weight and sluff off a bunch of muscle with the fat.

By the way, there's another critical reason to put on muscle though:  it appears to lower your chance for diabetes, metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance.  It appears to be an independent risk factor, although I have a theory about that...
what is an independant risk factor for what?

I hope you understand I had no intention of bashing what you said
but Caveman/many others might be under the impression that weight lifting is magical,
sorta like if someone read. "....cold Pomegranate juice helps reduce plaques....."

then the focus might be on how COLD should the juice be, etc

I wanted to make sure he knew the reasons to workout and have protein, how all the  indirect effects of weight training are what a lot of the health benifiets come from...not all. but a ton
Im just thankful that no one here has used the word,"tone/toning up"....that drives me crazy.... :o
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 04, 2012, 01:26:39 am
Here you go:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1472-6823-10-6.pdf

"Low serum creatinine is a predictor of type 2 diabetes in
Caucasian morbidly obese patients independent of age,
gender, family history of diabetes, anthropometric measures, hypertension, and current smoking."

 You see I need some sort of justification for all that time I spend moving weights up and down off the floor.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: bubba29 on December 04, 2012, 12:39:43 pm
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general." - Mark Rippetoe
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 04, 2012, 03:13:26 pm
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general." - Mark Rippetoe

Whoa!  Still trying to get my mind around the context there, but I guess it's true...

You a fan of this guy?  Looks like he has an incredible background...
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: bubba29 on December 04, 2012, 04:16:41 pm
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general." - Mark Rippetoe

Whoa!  Still trying to get my mind around the context there, but I guess it's true...

You a fan of this guy?  Looks like he has an incredible background...

rippetoe is highly respected as a great teacher of the basic barbell lifts.  his book "starting strength" is widely acclaimed to be an excellent resource for anyone in pursuit of strength, especially beginners.  that being said, i have never read it.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 04, 2012, 04:25:45 pm

rippetoe is highly respected as a great teacher of the basic barbell lifts.  his book "starting strength" is widely acclaimed to be an excellent resource for anyone in pursuit of strength, especially beginners.  that being said, i have never read it.

I'd love to hear your take on why you're going for strength training and not just pure bodybuilding.  What's the draw for you?  If you have comments, start a thread.  (I'm obsessed with muscle, being the Skinny Bastard's Skinny Bastard.  But I admire someone who wants pure strength and gets muscle on the road there.)
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 04, 2012, 04:30:43 pm
Here you go:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1472-6823-10-6.pdf

"Low serum creatinine is a predictor of type 2 diabetes in
Caucasian morbidly obese patients independent of age,
gender, family history of diabetes, anthropometric measures, hypertension, and current smoking."

 You see I need some sort of justification for all that time I spend moving weights up and down off the floor.
Morbidly obese=BMI 40+

Hallucinations are a sign of dehydration
so dont drink your water!

even so, this study has to have used lots of couch potatoes or people who are immobile because just wallking around carrying the fat that makes you MORBIDLY OBESE is a workout..

Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 04, 2012, 04:33:06 pm

Morbidly obese=BMI 40+

Hallucinations are a sign of dehydration
so dont drink your water!

even so, this study has to have used lots of couch potatoes or people who are immobile because just wallking around carrying the fat that makes you MORBIDLY OBESE is a workout..

Not sure what you are saying.  There are other studies showing the correlation between muscle mass and blood sugar/insulin control.  Part of it is the correlations between testosterone and insulin and testosterone and muscle of course.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 04, 2012, 04:42:56 pm




Not sure what you are saying.  There are other studies showing the correlation between muscle mass and blood sugar/insulin control.  Part of it is the correlations between testosterone and insulin and testosterone and muscle of course.
oh come now, you are telling me you workout to avoid becoming diabetic?
that's silly
you workout for the direct effect of keeping/building muscle, the endorphins from working out, etc

AND the indirect effects of having womenz look at you and all the nice things that happen cause you are healthier

Most Humans are too stupid/short sighted/controlled by their limbic system/underdeveloped pre- frontal lobe to do things because they want C or D and they start from A
ie
A---->B-->C-->D

or just drive down main street, USA and look at all the people standing 3feet from the door smoking like chimneys OR the long drive thru lines; 2 vices that give instant gratification
http://www.scilearn.com/blog/marshmallow-experiment-self-control-young-children.php
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 04, 2012, 04:56:26 pm

oh come now, you are telling me you workout to avoid becoming diabetic?
that's silly
you workout for the direct effect of keeping/building muscle, the endorphins from working out, etc


I can honestly say that it's all three.  I love the high from working out; I love having a little muscle as you stated. 

However, my health really went downhill for few years.  That's always on the back of my mind.  I don't ever want to go back there.

My family thinks I'm crazy, cuzz I never miss a day at the gym.  (Well, almost never.)  And, on the rare days I can't go, I'm out walking.  It's religious for me because I'm hoping to stick around on this planet for a few more decades.

So I do indirectly think of diabetes, cancer, cardiovascular disease - all that stuff.  Yeah, I don't walk into the gym thinking about diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome, but I know on the back of my mind what it's like to feel like crap for years.  Ain't going there again and the gym and the kitchen are my tickets to board the Freedom Train...
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 04, 2012, 06:16:21 pm

oh come now, you are telling me you workout to avoid becoming diabetic?
that's silly
you workout for the direct effect of keeping/building muscle, the endorphins from working out, etc


I can honestly say that it's all three.  I love the high from working out; I love having a little muscle as you stated. 

However, my health really went downhill for few years.  That's always on the back of my mind.  I don't ever want to go back there.

My family thinks I'm crazy, cuzz I never miss a day at the gym.  (Well, almost never.)  And, on the rare days I can't go, I'm out walking.  It's religious for me because I'm hoping to stick around on this planet for a few more decades.

So I do indirectly think of diabetes, cancer, cardiovascular disease - all that stuff.  Yeah, I don't walk into the gym thinking about diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome, but I know on the back of my mind what it's like to feel like crap for years.  Ain't going there again and the gym and the kitchen are my tickets to board the Freedom Train...
interesting

I think of my little friends health whenever I want to indulge in some food to appease a craving, but it sounds like you have it 100x stronger than I do

I understand why you feel how you do, since you have been through it. I was asked a few months ago by my parents to fill out a health care directive in case anything bad happened to me and I'd have to be on life support etc.
I declined all DNR type assistance. My experiences with me having  been in and stil recovering from a coma that occurs 13 yrs ago make me never want to go through that shit again.
so I understand how you feel and I know you are an outlier in this area.
maybe
My dad tells me he feels guility if he does not workout because it's in his best interest.
I wish I could get the rest of my family to just not eat so much, maybe workout.

Oddly enough, this study has affected me because my mom was concerned about her recent bloodwork(she does not workout) as it showed low serum creatinine.

Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 04, 2012, 06:24:08 pm

so I understand how you feel and I know you are an outlier in this area.
maybe

There are lots of guys in the gym, on bikes and pounding the pavement cuzz of angina, high blood pressure, or E.D.  Unfortunately, it takes a 2 X 4 for a lot of us...
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: bubba29 on December 04, 2012, 06:43:16 pm

oh come now, you are telling me you workout to avoid becoming diabetic?
that's silly
you workout for the direct effect of keeping/building muscle, the endorphins from working out, etc


I can honestly say that it's all three.  I love the high from working out; I love having a little muscle as you stated. 

However, my health really went downhill for few years.  That's always on the back of my mind.  I don't ever want to go back there.

My family thinks I'm crazy, cuzz I never miss a day at the gym.  (Well, almost never.)  And, on the rare days I can't go, I'm out walking.  It's religious for me because I'm hoping to stick around on this planet for a few more decades.

So I do indirectly think of diabetes, cancer, cardiovascular disease - all that stuff.  Yeah, I don't walk into the gym thinking about diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome, but I know on the back of my mind what it's like to feel like crap for years.  Ain't going there again and the gym and the kitchen are my tickets to board the Freedom Train...

you should read this article. 
http://whole9life.com/2012/10/lies-we-tell-ourselves/

to paraphrase, lay off the constant training.  it will do more good than actually training every day.  maybe just replace more of your gym days with walking days.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 04, 2012, 07:42:24 pm

to paraphrase, lay off the constant training.  it will do more good than actually training every day.  maybe just replace more of your gym days with walking days.

I do have walking days.  I just do it at the gym.  As you know, I'm not big on air pollution and I live in a major metro area:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Pollution_Exercise

Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Polewalker on December 05, 2012, 12:50:51 pm
Okay I finally made a decision on exercising and supplements for NO. Here's my schedule for the week and I might be confused but any suggestions will (HELP)

Daily dosages. L-citrulline power 1 teaspoon twice a day
                       L-Arginine power 2 G twice a day
                       Pycongenol 100 mg once a day

Don't ask me why I came up with this formula. After reading stuff for about a week I decided these were the numbers. But if you can tell me different or changed numbers I do not have a problem.


Exercise
three times a week on exercising bicycle for 30 min.
once a week at Pilates class for an hour
three times a week lifting weights
five times a week in the eveningwalking and do 50 setups.


So now I have changed my routine set of twice a week I up.   I've been taking L-arginine power for about a month. This is helped me tremendously in this lower my blood pressure and gave me a lot of energy. So I do believe I'm on the right course but just need a little bit of guidance.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 05, 2012, 02:40:52 pm

Daily dosages. L-citrulline power 1 teaspoon twice a day
                       L-Arginine power 2 G twice a day
 

Wait.  How many grams is 1 teaspoon of citrulline?  This sounds like a lot of citrulline, although when I used to take it, the pills were pretty big.  YOu need to be careful here.  Most guys, that are going to get an effect, get it in the 1-2 gram/day range.  And the most I have seen any man take is 3 grams per day, but I don't think that's a good idea actually.  So go by grams (after approval by your doc), not teaspoons.  You need to find the conversion factor as you don't want to overdo this.

Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: bubba29 on December 05, 2012, 03:13:29 pm
Okay I finally made a decision on exercising and supplements for NO. Here's my schedule for the week and I might be confused but any suggestions will (HELP)

Daily dosages. L-citrulline power 1 teaspoon twice a day
                       L-Arginine power 2 G twice a day
                       Pycongenol 100 mg once a day

Don't ask me why I came up with this formula. After reading stuff for about a week I decided these were the numbers. But if you can tell me different or changed numbers I do not have a problem.


Exercise
three times a week on exercising bicycle for 30 min.
once a week at Pilates class for an hour
three times a week lifting weights
five times a week in the eveningwalking and do 50 setups.


So now I have changed my routine set of twice a week I up.   I've been taking L-arginine power for about a month. This is helped me tremendously in this lower my blood pressure and gave me a lot of energy. So I do believe I'm on the right course but just need a little bit of guidance.

what is your goal with your exercise routine?  what is your current exercise routine?
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Polewalker on December 05, 2012, 09:04:45 pm
PeakT thanks for the help. I have a spoon that came with the L-arginine is 2 g. So maybe I'll start out with a gram in the morning of L-citrulline . And see how that goes, thank 

Bubba
I started about a year ago trying to get healthy that's when I hit bottom. My goals are to lose another 30 pounds before July and get healthier.

Exercise

Tuesday morning I go to the gym take one hours Pilates and try to get 30 min. on the exercising bike.
Wednesday day off
Thursday morning 30 min. on the bike and   weight lifting for my shoulders and stomach.
Friday off
Saturday morning 30 min. on the bike and weightlifting for my shoulders and stomach.

GOAL
I want to do one hour of stationary bike then I'm going to take a spinning class and I would like to do it three times a week.
I want to keep up with my Pilates and do it three times .
weightlifting three times a week this one I do not have a routine   down . I'm going to ask for a coaches at the gym to help me
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: bubba29 on December 05, 2012, 09:33:07 pm
PeakT thanks for the help. I have a spoon that came with the L-arginine is 2 g. So maybe I'll start out with a gram in the morning of L-citrulline . And see how that goes, thank 

Bubba
I started about a year ago trying to get healthy that's when I hit bottom. My goals are to lose another 30 pounds before July and get healthier.

Exercise

Tuesday morning I go to the gym take one hours Pilates and try to get 30 min. on the exercising bike.
Wednesday day off
Thursday morning 30 min. on the bike and   weight lifting for my shoulders and stomach.
Friday off
Saturday morning 30 min. on the bike and weightlifting for my shoulders and stomach.

GOAL
I want to do one hour of stationary bike then I'm going to take a spinning class and I would like to do it three times a week.
I want to keep up with my Pilates and do it three times .
weightlifting three times a week this one I do not have a routine   down . I'm going to ask for a coaches at the gym to help me

the reason i asked is that seems like A LOT of exercise.  be careful not to over do it or you may sabotage your weight loss goal.  body composition is 85% food related anyway.  set realistic timeframe goals and transform your body on a steady, healthy way.
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: Blade78 on December 06, 2012, 12:03:43 am

the reason i asked is that seems like A LOT of exercise.  be careful not to over do it or you may sabotage your weight loss goal.  body composition is 85% food related anyway.  set realistic timeframe goals and transform your body on a steady, healthy way.

I saw an interview with Gary taubes about good calories, bad calories(his book) and he never mentioned in the interview its all about calories
my biochemistry teacher told us that fructose/HFCS is bad for us, because fructose metabolism by passes a  regulated step and pretty much gets turned into energy and FAT(it doesnt get used at all by the muscles
well, I attached the article she game us about how HFCS/fructose being un-regulated

but even so, its still about calories, right?  you eat X calories, you gain weight, its too many calories?  or is it if I eat 300 grams of fructose, and 200calories of other food,, so 1400 calories total,  but because those calories are mostly fructose, you wont burn it?   but  fructose fills the liver? so wont it be used?
does anyone know
Title: Re: caveman needs HELP
Post by: PeakT on December 06, 2012, 12:49:24 am
PeakT thanks for the help. I have a spoon that came with the L-arginine is 2 g. So maybe I'll start out with a gram in the morning of L-citrulline . And see how that goes, thank 


You can't assume that's true as far as I know.  For example, a spoonful of salt is about 6 grams and a spoonful of sugar is 4g.