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Title: Mark Hyman's Pegan Peace-Making Diet
Post by: PeakT on April 09, 2016, 09:01:24 pm
One of the things I really admired about Dr. Hyman during the Fat Summit were his peacemaker abilities.  He tried - and I think did an admirable job - of attempting to unite and unify many of the key nutritional voices out there. 

Now I'm not sure how well all the speakers - who ranged from Low Fat to Paleo to Low Carb - would truly be able to join together very well, but we can hope for the best. 

In any even, Dr. Hyman just posted an updated version of his Pegan Diet.  Overall, I like it and actually eat quite close to this myself:

http://drhyman.com/blog/2014/11/07/pegan-paleo-vegan/
Title: Re: Mark Hyman's Pegan Peace-Making Diet
Post by: croaker24 on April 09, 2016, 10:01:21 pm
One of the things I really admired about Dr. Hyman during the Fat Summit were his peacemaker abilities.  He tried - and I think did an admirable job - of attempting to unite and unify many of the key nutritional voices out there. 

Now I'm not sure how well all the speakers - who ranged from Low Fat to Paleo to Low Carb - would truly be able to join together very well, but we can hope for the best. 

In any even, Dr. Hyman just posted an updated version of his Pegan Diet.  Overall, I like it and actually eat quite close to this myself:

http://drhyman.com/blog/2014/11/07/pegan-paleo-vegan/

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at yet another diet fad.    Let me guess, there's books, DVDs, seminars readily available....       This is the one that minimizes whole grains and beans?     
Title: Re: Mark Hyman's Pegan Peace-Making Diet
Post by: PeakT on April 09, 2016, 10:16:21 pm
One of the things I really admired about Dr. Hyman during the Fat Summit were his peacemaker abilities.  He tried - and I think did an admirable job - of attempting to unite and unify many of the key nutritional voices out there. 

Now I'm not sure how well all the speakers - who ranged from Low Fat to Paleo to Low Carb - would truly be able to join together very well, but we can hope for the best. 

In any even, Dr. Hyman just posted an updated version of his Pegan Diet.  Overall, I like it and actually eat quite close to this myself:

http://drhyman.com/blog/2014/11/07/pegan-paleo-vegan/

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at yet another diet fad.    Let me guess, there's books, DVDs, seminars readily available....       This is the one that minimizes whole grains and beans?   

Not that I know of.  He is a man that has just been incredibly int'd in the whole nutritional scene for years and years.  So, he can genuinely say that he really likes both Dr. Ornish and some of the Paleo/Low Carb gurus simultaneously.  I think he's looking for a way to make peace between all the groups.  Time will tell though.
Title: Re: Mark Hyman's Pegan Peace-Making Diet
Post by: Osprey on April 09, 2016, 10:33:14 pm
One of the things I really admired about Dr. Hyman during the Fat Summit were his peacemaker abilities.  He tried - and I think did an admirable job - of attempting to unite and unify many of the key nutritional voices out there. 

Now I'm not sure how well all the speakers - who ranged from Low Fat to Paleo to Low Carb - would truly be able to join together very well, but we can hope for the best. 

In any even, Dr. Hyman just posted an updated version of his Pegan Diet.  Overall, I like it and actually eat quite close to this myself:

http://drhyman.com/blog/2014/11/07/pegan-paleo-vegan/

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at yet another diet fad.    Let me guess, there's books, DVDs, seminars readily available....       This is the one that minimizes whole grains and beans?   

Not that I know of.  He is a man that has just been incredibly int'd in the whole nutritional scene for years and years.  So, he can genuinely say that he really likes both Dr. Ornish and some of the Paleo/Low Carb gurus simultaneously.  I think he's looking for a way to make peace between all the groups.  Time will tell though.

I just read through some of his blog posts, seems pretty down on Ornish and how he manipulated his study cohort to get more favorable results.

Also very much pro high fat diet. Says don't worry about your cholesterol numbers except for LDL particle size, eat lots of coconut oil.

Personally I think he is more right than wrong, but he does seem to against a lot of what you preach here.
Title: Re: Mark Hyman's Pegan Peace-Making Diet
Post by: Joe Sixpack on April 10, 2016, 01:25:33 am

I just read through some of his blog posts, seems pretty down on Ornish and how he manipulated his study cohort to get more favorable results.

Also very much pro high fat diet. Says don't worry about your cholesterol numbers except for LDL particle size, eat lots of coconut oil.

Personally I think he is more right than wrong, but he does seem to against a lot of what you preach here.
I agree that Hyman is way more fat friendly and much less worried about cholesterol than Peak is.  Yet, there is lots of agreement that the best anti-aging diet is largely vegetarian.  Lots of agreement that blood sugar is a very important risk factor.  I would guess that Hyman would fully endorse at least 90% of what Peak writes about here.   

Hyman is big into functional medicine.  So his angle is that he is looking for what works.  So sure he is selling books and stuff.  I personally don't really begrudge anyone from making money.   I think he uses his reasearch to further his role as director of Functional Med at the Cleveland Clinic. 

I also admired his work on the fat summit.  He brought in well known experts, who often held very different viewpoints and gave them all a pretty fair hearing.  So he is not afraid to have sticks and stones thrown at his own ideas.  It was a very intellectually honest move to have other viewpoints come on his show. 
Title: Re: Mark Hyman's Pegan Peace-Making Diet
Post by: PeakT on April 10, 2016, 03:28:24 pm

I just read through some of his blog posts, seems pretty down on Ornish and how he manipulated his study cohort to get more favorable results.

Also very much pro high fat diet. Says don't worry about your cholesterol numbers except for LDL particle size, eat lots of coconut oil.

Personally I think he is more right than wrong, but he does seem to against a lot of what you preach here.

True and I saw that at the Fat Summit.  However, I think that in particular the Paleo, flexitarian, vegan, nutritarian, vegetarian folks need to work together on certain issues.  For example, the solid majority of Paleo folks believe in humanely treated animals and try to buy range fed meats, etc.  I think that Dr. Hyman worded with Pegan page to try to show that each of the groups are trying to be natural and whole foods and fight the same chronic disease even if we disagree over some of the foods and macronutrient ratios.  In other words, there is a tremendous amount of commonality at least for the foundational philosophies that underlie why we eat the way we do.