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Has anyone got triptorelin before from a us pharmacy?  Iím interested in it for one last restart attempt...   I couldnít find a pharmacy that has it, other than those shady research sites.

Not sure why Iím obsessed about natural production, I feel amazing on trt.  I found some BW from 2008 (29 at the time) and my TT was 379.  Now at 40, stressful life, 4 kids etc, not sure if I can even get back into normal levels.

Iíve failed 10 restart attempts with different protocols and felt complete misery I got back on trt.   Just would love the idea of my Hpta working and my balls working.

Sorry for the Saturday rant, my wife thinks Iím crazy and I should just stay on.

These will probably not work. I took micro dose of Busereline and after an initial burst I was shut down for about a month.
They have a binding affinity tens of times greater than your natural GNRH and stick to it far longer than your own. Just lowering the dose does not make them equivalent.
But of course you can try. If your pituitary gets shut down just get back on TRT.

Does anyone know if clomiphene can help maintain testicular function while on TRT, like HCG does? I'm asking because I have access to clomiphene, but not HCG.

Not while on TRT but once you get off T then yes it is used to kick start your own production. Only HCG will help testicular function while on TRT.

It's true that testosterone injections leave some guys kind of low on DHT. Even with my total testosterone at 800 ng/dL my DHT has been around the bottom of the range, 30 ng/dL.

What is the reason behind this? Common sense dictates that TRT should increase DHT like E?

How long can dry unconstituted HCG powder remain good at room temperature??
Any ideas?

Hey all, my cortisol numbers have actually been a bit low lately.  I have been using two self-checkers that I bought a while back to check it.  Most people only talk about lowering cortisol, but mine is routinely LOW across most of the day (except mornings). 

I would hate to take hydrocortisone pills and those Rx meds because of anxiety problems, yet I am getting dizzy at night and light-headed.  I've also felt pretty tired and blood pressure has been lower than usual which I believe is perhaps a common symptom of low cortisol.  My thyroid has also been giving me issues and I am usually cold a lot which also worries me as I believe cortisol and thyroid health are hand-in-hand?

Stop taking T.

A friend of mine is trying T cream, he asked me about scrotum application but I didn't know and told him I'll find out. Does he need to shave his ballz before he applies T cream on them? or can he just rub it on his penis? I honestly don't even know where the scrotum is, I think it's just the ballz?

I don't think low T is the problem of you or your friend. You need not waste time trying to find the scrotum.

Is the manufacturer known and reputable? Are quality standards like USP also used for veterinary medications? Theoretically, if standards are lower for veterinary medications then there could be higher levels of impurities. But it's also possible sources and methods are the same.

Would I do it myself? Maybe, depending on finances, etc...

Ok I tried 0.1 ml which is too small. Did feel slightly high libido but that may have nothing to do with it. Also felt a bit weird. Any way I decided not to continue with it. Instead I will try Leuprorelin proper for human beings. It does cost 30 times more but better safe than sorry. It would be nice if any one has tried it or knows a thing or two about it to share it here.

After failure of TRT and HCG, I am excited about the prospects of micro dose GnRH agonists like Triptorelin or Leuprorelin etc.

However I found Buserelin Acetate. There is one case study for hypogonadism for this drug.


Another thing making me very happy is that it is very cheap equivalent to 2 US dollars. Less than one third the price of an HCG injection here.
One injection is 2.5 ml
Each ml contains Buserelin acetate 0.0042 mg equivalent to 0.004 mg Buserelin

There is one little problem.

Its made for Animals.
It says only for veterinary use.

Could the same inject-able drug that is made for animals be dangerous for humans even though the same formula is also used in Humans?

Would you try it?

What is the rationale for starting a guy out on an AI on the first day of TRT?  In other words, in the absence of symptoms?  If it's always about symptom resolution, what symptoms would be manifest before a guy has even begun his TRT?  Numerous patients report being started on an AI right out of the gate.  Now, unless a patient insists on having the AI on hand from the start, is there any other reason why a clinic would start a guy off with an AI, when no symptoms are yet present?

It might be a better idea to just start with low dose AI (without TRT) to raise T. If that worked it would be much better than TRT.

Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / Re: Sex addiction
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:12:16 pm »
My recent test level is in the 750s. Iím on 100 mg test cypionate a week. I have sex with my wife once a week. I always think about it, watching porn, wanting sex everyday. Weird thing is I take Paxil also, even before TRT I had a strong libido being on 30mg of that. My wife takes thyroid medication for a overactive thyroid.

I know you did not ask, but you sound perfectly normal to me.  Once a week at 34 years of age?  I'm pretty sure most men are up for more than that, certainly at that age.  I bet if you were more active with your wife, the porn would be unnecessary.  I'd get her on test.  My 61y/o wife (for almost 38yrs now, and still very hot) started HRT at 56.  I started TRT with her.  Life changing for us.  She says menopause was the worst time of her life.  She had zero hormones.  Both of us wish we would have done this sooner.

How much T is she taking per week. Is she also on Estradial or Progesterone?

Does dr saya ever write it?

Stuff is hard to get

What about Luprorelin? It seems to be cheaper too?

Here's an article explaining how low doses are used for a restart: http://www.peptidequestions.com/peptides/triptorelin-gnrh/

Triptorelin is so powerful that large doses around 4mg (4,000mcg), repeated once a month, is being used as a chemical form of castration. This dose is so intense on the pituitary, that it hyper-stimulates, resulting in castration-like levels of testosterone serum in the body. Much like HCG, dosing is delicate, and too much is not a good thing. We need to use Triptorelin as a restart, one-and-done, and not over-do things because it may have a much more opposite and negative effect.

Does it have a half life for weeks/months or does one time stimulation keep the pituitary up working 24/7 for weeks?
What is its half life and can you take it subq?

Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / Re: HCG Storage Question
« on: December 31, 2018, 12:32:21 am »
Today is Monday. So you left it out from last Monday? So it has been outside the fridge for the whole week. If yes it is probably finished. But if I were you I would still test it. Maybe take a double dose.
How do I test it?  What would a double dose do to me, or feel like?

Test it by injecting it. So if your normal dose is 500 iu you might want to try 1000 iu.
Don't you feel anything different on HCG normally? libido high, testicles harder etc?
If now you don't feel the difference it means it is destroyed.

Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / Re: HCG Storage Question
« on: December 23, 2018, 08:22:36 pm »
Hi Guys,

I received my HCG on Monday and mixed it up but left it out on my desk until today!  I'm in Oregon, so the inside temp has been in the 60's the whole time, but I know I need to store my HCG in the fridge.  So can I use it?  Have I destroyed it??? 

Help!  :)

Today is Monday. So you left it out from last Monday? So it has been outside the fridge for the whole week. If yes it is probably finished. But if I were you I would still test it. Maybe take a double dose.

Reports of this working well.   Dr crisler had positive case reports.   But not much published about it.  Anyone try it or know more about triptorelin?

Wikipedia says it actually suppresses LH and testosterone and is used to chemically castrate sex offenders. Isn't that the opposite of HPTA restart?

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