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Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / what supps do you take?
« on: January 18, 2016, 01:53:25 pm »
vit K2(superK from life extension)
vit D
Vit C(5-10grams)
Omega 3

AI every  3 days

I'm a type 2 diabetic(barely)
I have fasting blood sugar 115
I need to lose fat and I'm working on that by
setting a caloric deficit and eating
a set calorie level of (peas, grapefruit.rhubarb/spinach/arugula/fruit  eggwhites!)

My concern is how diabetics die?  cardiomyopathy? 

My cat(I work a lot and a dog would hate me) cats  done care...but he died at 22 from cardiomyopathy(big heart,heart failure)

now  type 2 diabetes kills people how?
yes, heart attacks
afib?  ie heart abnomalaties?

kidney damage

so the key is  weight loss

no sugar
follow no processedf foods diet

Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / DMSO what
« on: January 11, 2016, 12:21:49 pm »
anyone here ever heard of DMSO or used it?

 DMSO: Many Uses, Much Controversy
Maya Muir


Dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO), a by-product of the wood industry, has been in use as a commercial solvent since 1953. It is also one of the most studied but least understood pharmaceutical agents of our time--at least in the United States. According to Stanley Jacob, MD, a former head of the organ transplant program at Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland, more than 40,000 articles on its chemistry have appeared in scientific journals, which, in conjunction with thousands of laboratory studies, provide strong evidence of a wide variety of properties. (See Major Properties Attributed to DMSO) Worldwide, some 11,000 articles have been written on its medical and clinical implications, and in 125 countries throughout the world, including Canada, Great Britain, Germany, and Japan, doctors prescribe it for a variety of ailments, including pain, inflammation, scleroderma, interstitial cystitis, and arthritis elevated intercranial pressure.

Yet in the United States, DMSO has Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval only for use as a preservative of organs for transplant and for interstitial cystitis, a bladder disease. It has fallen out of the limelight and out of the mainstream of medical discourse, leading some to believe that it was discredited. The truth is more complicated.

DMSO: A History of Controversy

The history of DMSO as a pharmaceutical began in 1961, when Dr. Jacob was head of the organ transplant program at Oregon Health Sciences University. It all started when he first picked up a bottle of the colorless liquid. While investigating its potential as a preservative for organs, he quickly discovered that it penetrated the skin quickly and deeply without damaging it. He was intrigued. Thus began his lifelong investigation of the drug.

The news media soon got word of his discovery, and it was not long before reporters, the pharmaceutical industry, and patients with a variety of medical complaints jumped on the news. Because it was available for industrial uses, patients could dose themselves. This early public interest interfered with the ability of Dr. Jacob--or, later, the FDA--to see that experimentation and use were safe and controlled and may have contributed to the souring of the mainstream medical community on it.

Why, if DMSO possesses half the capabilities claimed by Dr. Jacob and others, is it still on the sidelines of medicine in the United States today?

"It's a square peg being pushed into a round hole," says Dr. Jacob. "It doesn't follow the rifle approach of one agent against one disease entity. It's the aspirin of our era. If aspirin were to come along today, it would have the same problem. If someone gave you a little white pill and said take this and your headache will go away, your body.....


The easy answer, (cause I wub easy answers without reading a ton of nonsense) is your body is you don't need vit C, you need collagen it is the main structural protein in the extracellular space in the various connective tissues in animal bodies. As the main component of connective tissue, it is the most abundant protein in mammals, making up from 25% to 35% of the whole-body protein content.

you need it for wound healing, skin(so you look good), and blood vessals
the rate limitating factor in collagen production is Vitamin C.,
vitamin C has a half life of  roughly 30 minutes in the body

most animals make vit C all day, every day
Humans can't  via lack of  L-gulonolactone oxidase enzyme

why I believe in Pauling therapy:

That's what it seems like, which is a good question.   The funny part of that question is I never heard of Pauling therapy till I came to this site!

so let's start from the beginning

what  is the pauling theory?

Linus Pauling claimed that specific non-toxic substances called Lp(a) binding inhibitors taken orally will prevent and may even dissolve existing atherosclerotic plaque build-ups.

This work is based on at least 2 Nobel Prizes in Medicine and the efforts of countless medical researchers. The theory and conclusions offered represent the final contribution of an American scientific giant.

Linus Pauling's idea was that we need collagen.  and since 90% of the collagen in type 1 found in a few places including artery walls.   so do arteries get remodeled and need MORE collagen?

Yes, high BP and wear and tear from blood flowing threw them constantly means they need repair. and when then need repair, they need more collagen.

So how is collagen made?
It needs vit C to be made
You need vitamin C for the growth and repair of tissues in all parts of your body. It helps the body make collagen, an important protein used to make skin, cartilage, tendons, ligaments, and blood vessels

high cholestrol leads to damage of the endothelial wall and that's why plaques form
no, this is a silly thought, just look at the basic chemistry of it all 8)
-Bears  dont die from  CAD, yet have cholestrol  300+ during hibernation

Recall when a Bypass heart surgery is done, a leg vein is used to bypass the clogged arteries.   If high cholesterol is the cause of plaque formations,why isnt that leg vein also filled with plaques?
G. C. Willis, MD, made the crucial observation in the early 1950s. A Canadian doctor, he noticed that atherosclerotic plaques in his patients kept forming in the same places. Usually near the heart where the blood vessels are stretched and bent.
Willis was the first to implicate high blood pressures and the mechanical stress caused more wear/tear on arteries, which then need collagen to be repaired.  No collagen, LPA is used, which leads to plaque formation due to LPA  open binding sites on LPA.  Plus LPA isnt stable as collagen

I take 2 grams of vit C, anything beyond that is SUPERMEGADOISNG!
that's silly to think that.
-Unlike animals,.which make lots of vit C in their kidneys all the time, humans don't made vit C.
 Vitamin C does not last long in the body, half life is about 30 minutes
 because vit C is water soluable, so any  you take that isnt used, gets flushed out of the body.  This is the reason for Paulings dose of 10-20 grams/day,  because you don't take 20grams at once! you take a gram of so an hour, but like animals which don't diet from heart attacks, you  always have some vit C in you.

Why do I need vit C in me?
-because the body wants to use collagen to repair arteries,and when it has no collagen or cant make more because it requires vit C to make collagen, the body will use Lipoprotein(a)

what is Lipoprotein(a)?
LDL-like particle and the specific apolipoprotein(a) and it's used by the body to remodel/repair arteries
otherwise, the function is unknown, except people without it are healthy, so it's not needed and seems to be used ascorbic-acid(vit C) surrogate to repair arterial walls

There a few supps we should be taking, yes.
What "more evidence" do you need?
oh ,yeah a study of someone with clogged arteries, who  gets an xray(whatever) shows the 80% blockage then put them on a diet which led to fat loss along with few grams of vit C, some vit K, lysine/proline and then go back later and see if the blockage has diminished?
I think Peak has studies that show that with a low fat diet or whatever .
So that can happen..  I'm just saying the reason it happens isnt because of magic or some unknown key  nutrient in POM juice, but because of the role vit C plays in making Collagen.

I am not one to think about conspiracy theories, but  you do realize how much money is made "lowering cholesterol" or doing heart surgery?
40% or  more of what a hospital makes.
but the idea the AMA/pharma or anyone could have enough control to keep this out of the public knowledge seems a but absurd, right?
then again, it was established that Trans-fats are bad for you 1980s or earlier, and Transfats are still being used.
 FDA will ban them,  except for special uses by 2018

so we know trans fats do many bad things, but it takes almost 40years before the government helps us  avoid them?
hmmm,. so maybe it is possible to hold things back.

I take Livon/lipo C
purebulk vit C and
twin labs vit C
I dont use proline/lysine supps, I just drink eggwhites

foods highest in pro/leu http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000083095000000000000-w.html

 read better summary of pauling therapy read:


Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / blue light keeps you up?
« on: December 31, 2015, 06:52:27 am »

While light of any kind can suppress the secretion of melatonin, blue light does so more powerfully. Harvard researchers and their colleagues conducted an experiment comparing the effects of 6.5 hours of exposure to blue light to exposure to green light of comparable brightness. The blue light suppressed melatonin for about twice as long as the green light and shifted circadian rhythms by twice as much (3 hours vs. 1.5 hours).

so "blue light" from computer screens, stops melatonin?  never heard of that

anyone know about this?

I have google fiber

 hard wired

It is a lack of Vit K/Vit C, and calcification of the heart valves/pulmonary veins?>

so then putting a patient on  a-fib drugs, which inhibit Vit K from working, will make the afib worse?


Taking a gram or so of vit C every hour(10+ grams/day)
eat eggs/eggwhites(to get the proline/lysine to bind to established plaques) and remove them molecule by molecule
take vit K to get the calcium out of the arteries and back into bone.

You take vit C(try to always have some in the body)

is the above how to clear arteries?
or does this guy have it correct?
with a low fat diet(15% of total calories)
niacin(which does lower LPA, although why Im not sure)
low/no grains
get low cholesterol
vit D

It seems to me that guy and Dr Davies(track your plauque) are just guessing and dont understand WHY plaques form in the arteries.
(I thought they formed due to a lack of VIT C, which leads to LPA being used, and LPA attacks formation of plaques?
can someone fill me in, if the mechanism and the solution is known.

I gotta stay on budget and I realize I spend more on food than I should
when I stay on budget, I save money and lose weight

daily, i eat
1 grapefruit $1
1 onion  $1(rounding to make it easier up to the whole dollar)
1 8oz of arugla($5)
2 eggwhite carton($7)
2lbs broccoli($4)
home made coffee($1)
1brazil/2walnut $1

so I spend about  $25/day on food

as per suppelements I take
10+grams vit C $1
vit K(superk life extension) 2($1)
carlson EFAs(kirkland fish oil) 5 $1
and about $5-6 on pills(the  true cost is MUCH lower than what I wrote)

so about $30 day in pills and food
Not bad?

Though Labeled ‘Wild,’ That Serving of Salmon May Be Farmed or ‘Faux’
The wild-caught salmon sold by restaurants and fishmongers is frequently farm-raised fish that has been mislabeled, said a report released Wednesday.
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Using DNA analysis, the nonprofit ocean conservation group Oceana studied 82 samples and found that two-thirds of the salmon appearing on restaurant menus were incorrectly labeled. Twenty percent of salmon from groceries was incorrectly identified, the group found.

Over all, 43 percent of the salmon the group collected — in New York, Washington, Chicago and Virginia, from upscale and takeout restaurants, and from various neighborhood and chain groceries — was misidentified. The researchers reported that the most common mislabeling in their survey involved Atlantic salmon being sold as “wild salmon.” The group also found instances of chum salmon being advertised as costlier king salmon, and of rainbow trout sold as wild salmon.

In the report from the conservation group Oceana, researchers collected 82 samples of salmon labeled “wild” from restaurants and grocery stores in Chicago, New York, Washington, D.C. and Virginia. The wild salmon from grocery stores was either fresh or previously frozen, and in restaurants—which ranged from high-end establishments to take-out sushi joints—it was part of a prepared dish. The researchers gathered samples when salmon wasn’t in season, during the 2013-2014 winter, and checked to see if the fish was what it claimed to be using DNA analysis.

American medicine seems to be behind the times

Lipoprotein(a) or Lp(a) may be an important marker for the risk developing of heart disease. However, measurements of Lp(a) are not widely available and are seldom used in routine clinical practice.

so what if I have high cholesterol? 

Low cholesterol is associated with mortality from stroke, heart disease, and cancer: the Jichi Medical School Cohort Study.
Low cholesterol was related to high mortality even after excluding deaths due to liver disease from the analysis. High cholesterol was not a risk factor for mortality.

Low total cholesterol is associated with high total mortality in patients with coronary heart disease.

Low Cholesterol is Associated with Mortality from Cardiovascular Diseases: A Dynamic Cohort Study in Korean Adults

This all makes linus paulings theory of needing collagen to prevent CAD
and what do you need to make collagen?
Vit C

Linus Pauling claimed that specific non-toxic substances called Lp(a) binding inhibitors taken orally will prevent and may even dissolve existing atherosclerotic plaque build-ups.

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No, I'm not s perfectly clear arteries did not consume a lot of Vitamin C.  I can believe Pauling Theory, but, personally, I don't think it's a silver bullet against arterial plaque.  There is a study that shows it can help, but didn't show it to have the kind of dramatic correlation that LDL-P does.

Furthermore, Vitamin C appears to have side effects.  It's good stuff, but are the side effects really worth it?  I'm debating that myself.
side effects like what?
better skin since  you have the essiental substrates to make collagen?

how much VC do you need depends on IF yuo have aterial plaque, right?
so the Tarahumara , who ate a plant based diet, not a westren diet, had plently of VC from eating plant diet

pros and cons of a plant based diet vs westren diet are easy to see
look around Meica now and see the obesity issue, this is a diet lacking in plants(and vit C)
can you eat a westren diet and take loads of Vit C and negate CAD?
that should be the question we examinine and I don't know yet, is the lack of vit  C the reason  get heart disease?
I'll look into that later, right now  I gotta enjoy  the perks of being me :P 8)

I have 2 bad habbits I'm having a hard time giving up since I've started a low fat diet(12% calories from fat) and egg whites/tons of veggies.
I want to eat  beef jerky(I have told myself I'd check in with this forum to see just how bad that is)
I still drink coffee(decaf) and coke zero+diet mt dew(man I love caffeine)
I eat fish  2-4x  a week, usually salmon(not farmed)



Humans arent all the same BUT  you can pretty much set a great/perfect diet
low fat, no trans fats
dont eat enough calories to get fat
prefer veggies over nutrition free calories(sure a reese peanut butter cup has protein, but the other 98% calories are devoid of nutrition at least compared to veggies/a spoonful of real peanut butter which has better nutrition per cost of calories)

Dr Mcdougall has a list of foods to not eat on his program

eggs and eggwhites?  I dont get it? How else do you get protein? I might understand eggs, as they are loaded with AA(arachidonic acid) which are considered pro-inflammatory, right?(I have a friend who eats 20eggs a week and has the lowest HS-crp score whenever he tests his blood) so why not eat them? if you have a CRP issue, I might understand

No coffee? why not?

which is going to help me drop my sugars?
i average about 115 sometimes above 140
my MD says go low carb
Ive read to avoid man made carbs(fruits and veggies and eggs) and go low fat via john mCdougall

can i eat fruit?

any research supporting which way to go?

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