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Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / Hepatitis C and T
« on: March 04, 2017, 11:45:33 am »
So after being on cruise control for a year...all levels good, feeling good, etc....I get infected with HEP C via a tattoo...the good news is that being diligent about my T level. blood testing, blood donation, they caught this within 4 weeks of being infected - almost unheard of...I go to see a Gasto doc and he tells me to stop doing Cypionate injections that these numbers can have an impact on liver enzymes and this is an area he will be monitoring on a 2 week basis as my body begins to fight this off naturally (lets hope I can or I will start treatment in 6 months).....So my question is this...is it a smart thing to stop T cold turkey? In two weeks time my libido has already dropped significantly and my energy is definitely down....which is a known symptom of HEP C.....I was doing 100mg per week, once a week. Anyone up here take T with HEP C? your thoughts and recommendations....I am not taking any meds to terat HEP C at the moment and wont be for at least another 4 months....My AST and ALT are currently elevated do to the virus...levels have begun to drop..but are still high....However, when I was on T they were very, very normal....Thoughts, comments, suggestions? Thanks.

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A quick update on my Endo visit today.....Endo was fine with all numbers except Thyroid, which she bumped up my Levothyroxine to 225 from 200. She said she wasnt worried about Estradiol especially since I was feeling fine. She said the Endo guidelines do not recommend medicating at the 65 level.

One thing I left out, I did lose 17lbs and am eating much better and exercising 4-5x per week...only cardio....

Any thoughts?

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Peak, thanks! Which test are you referring to RDB? I dont see that at all on any of my blood test. RBC is withing range...These are the CBC results. The only things I see out of Range is the RDW which is 16.1   the range is 11-15%


THOUGHTS? Thanks BB

CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT) LI
WBC 6.3          3.8-10.8 THOUS/MCL
RBC 5.39         4.2-5.8 MILL/MCL
HEMOGLOBIN 15.1        13.2-17.1 G/DL
HEMATOCRIT 48.3          38.5-50 %
MCV 89.7          80-100 FL
MCH 28.0           27-33 PG
MCHC 31.3        L 32-36 G/DL
RDW 16.1           H 11-15 %
PLATELET COUNT 185          140-400 THOUS/MCL
MPV 12.2              H 7.5-11.5 FL
TOTAL NEUTROPHILS,%         43.9 38-80 %
TOTAL LYMPHOCYTES,%         45.2 15-49 %
MONOCYTES,% 7.9         0-13 %
EOSINOPHILS,% 2.4        0-8 %
BASOPHILS,% 0.6         0-2 %
NEUTROPHILS,ABSOLUTE 2766          1500-7800 CELLS/MCL
LYMPHOCYTES,ABSOLUTE 2848         850-3900 CELLS/MCL
MONOCYTES,ABSOLUTE 498          200-950 CELLS/MCL
EOSINOPHILS,ABSOLUTE 151        15-500 CELLS/MCL
BASOPHILS,ABSOLUTE 38          0-200 CELLS/MCL

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All,
Hope everyone is doing well and feeling great!!!! So here is my 8 week update let me know what you think......
I had changed my dose from 60mg every 4 days to 100 every 6 days. Here is a summary of how I am feeling...

energy level up to 11:30 every night. Past 9pm
Can have sex 2x per day 4x a week - very good! Past 1-2x per week
Feel good - not great but good.


Previous numbers (July) from Quest & New Numbers September
LDL   133   high           116
HDL   49                     44
TOTAL   195                173
RATIO   4                    3.9
TRIGLYCERIDES   65    64
NON HDL   146            129
DIABETIC RATIO 5.6    5.5
Vitamin D   37             NA
Estradol   42   high       65
Testosterone   524       798
T Free   86.1               202.7 H
Hematocrits   51.3       48.3   (after donating 1 week before bloodwork)
RBC 5.61                    5.39
TSH                           5.48
T3 Total                      78 (on the low end but not out of Quests range)
T4                             1.3
RDW                          16.1 H
MPV                           12.2 H

So Im pretty happy with my Cholesterol, T and Hematocrit numbers...I started testing T3...Ironically my TSH is out of range on high side. My concerns now are that Im starting to feel better, yet my Estradiol is very high. I am thinking Endo is going to suggest 100mg every 7 days which should be fine...But at this point should I consider taking something for my Estradiol? How about my T free...seems to be pretty high any way to reduce without cutting dose drastically? Thanks so much gents for your anticipated replies!!!! Have a great day.

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Funny I went to donate blood yesterda, the girl pricked my finger and said my Hematocrits was 48...I asked her if she was testing for Hematocrits or Hemoglobin...She said "both...Just divide 48 by 3 to get your Hemoglobin number..."

So let me put this out there....a week earlier I had blood drawn by Quest, my Hematocrits came back high at ~52.....yesterday when she pricked my finger she came back with 48...Which of these tests would be more accurate? I like the 48 number (and that was before I donated).

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A couple of things:

1.  So are you going to give blood?

2.   Have you tested thyroid?  DHEA?  cortisol?  These could be causing you the symptoms.

3.  You should really pull LDL-P or apoB.  If it's even average (for an American) and I would guess you are, then your arteries may have been building up plaque which can make you feel worse.  Check this out:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/LDL-P_Arterial_Plaque_Reversal

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Safe_Levels_Apolipoprotein_B_ApoB

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/LDL-P_Particle_Count_Levels

THANKS PEAK for the quick response....I am scheduled to donate blood tomorrow.
I take 188mg (?) Levothyroxine for Thyroid. Have had early morning cortisol checked. DHEA? not sure about that one, but can ask ENDO. Eill also speak about LDL-P or apoB...have never heard of these...

Trust me - read about LDL-P and apoB first.  Your doc will be (almost for sure) behind the research.

You're only taking a T4?  Lots of people need T3 added in.  Also, HRT can slow down the thyroid in some men especially with time.  You really need to revisit this imo and possibly with a more savvy doc.  As you know, low thyroid = feeling crappy in many ways.

Thanks Peak. I live on Long Island in New York...I know people have recommended docs in certain areas...Do you recommend anyone on Long Island? Thanks BB

I'd ask this separately.  You'd be surprised how often guys get a specific response.


Peak one last thing....my LH = .2 and FSH = .7 These are way low. Yet my doc says that it makes sense when taking T. Does that sound right?

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All, I am running into a few roadblocks with my current Endo doc. Can anyone recommend a good TRT doc on Long Island, NY? Thanks In Advance, BB

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A couple of things:

1.  So are you going to give blood?

2.   Have you tested thyroid?  DHEA?  cortisol?  These could be causing you the symptoms.

3.  You should really pull LDL-P or apoB.  If it's even average (for an American) and I would guess you are, then your arteries may have been building up plaque which can make you feel worse.  Check this out:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/LDL-P_Arterial_Plaque_Reversal

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Safe_Levels_Apolipoprotein_B_ApoB

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/LDL-P_Particle_Count_Levels

THANKS PEAK for the quick response....I am scheduled to donate blood tomorrow.
I take 188mg (?) Levothyroxine for Thyroid. Have had early morning cortisol checked. DHEA? not sure about that one, but can ask ENDO. Eill also speak about LDL-P or apoB...have never heard of these...

Trust me - read about LDL-P and apoB first.  Your doc will be (almost for sure) behind the research.

You're only taking a T4?  Lots of people need T3 added in.  Also, HRT can slow down the thyroid in some men especially with time.  You really need to revisit this imo and possibly with a more savvy doc.  As you know, low thyroid = feeling crappy in many ways.

Thanks Peak. I live on Long Island in New York...I know people have recommended docs in certain areas...Do you recommend anyone on Long Island? Thanks BB

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A couple of things:

1.  So are you going to give blood?

2.   Have you tested thyroid?  DHEA?  cortisol?  These could be causing you the symptoms.

3.  You should really pull LDL-P or apoB.  If it's even average (for an American) and I would guess you are, then your arteries may have been building up plaque which can make you feel worse.  Check this out:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/LDL-P_Arterial_Plaque_Reversal

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Safe_Levels_Apolipoprotein_B_ApoB

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/LDL-P_Particle_Count_Levels

THANKS PEAK for the quick response....I am scheduled to donate blood tomorrow.
I take 188mg (?) Levothyroxine for Thyroid. Have had early morning cortisol checked. DHEA? not sure about that one, but can ask ENDO. Eill also speak about LDL-P or apoB...have never heard of these...

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All,
I;m back again with new blood work....So since my last blood test I dropped my T to 60mg every 4 days....symptoms came creeping back...low libido (but not as bad, exhausted day in and day out -  avery noticeable difference)....Had my blood drawn last week and things dont look good again...here are my numbers...

LDL   133   high
HDL   49   
TOTAL   195   
RATIO   4   
TRIGLYCERIDES   65   
NON HDL   146   
DIABETIC RATIO   5.6   
Vitamin D   37   
Estradol   42   high
Testosterone   524   
T Free   86.1   much lower than previous
Hematocrits   51.3   high
RBC 5.61


PREVIOUS TEST DONE IN JUNE
5/12 I did full blood test for my Endo TRT (every 7 weeks).

vitamin d = 29 low
Estradol sensitive = 32
RDW = 16
Test f = 132.7
Test = 617
Hematocrits 49.8
RBC = 5.4


I did not donate blood before testing. My T level is lower, Hematocrit level is higher,  Cholesterol is lower. Weight dropped by 6lbs....As expected I am pissed. I dropped my T  level and numbers got worse. I have an appointment next week with Endo do you think I should speak with her again about arimidex? One thing to note also is that I started taking Belviq...a weightloss inhibitor drug that works on brain receptors to minimize food cravings...This could be making me more tired than usual.....could it effect my bloodwork? I am open to suggestions...This time around I am planning on doing 80mg every 5 days...and really focuing on weightloss. Any other suggestions?

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Thanks. I had asked her how about 60mg every 5 days (instead of 4)...she was against it since my cardiologist was pissed off about HCT and BP. I will do the 40 every 5 days and see where it gets me. Im also going to take a weightloss drug Belviq to help me get jumpstarted....Im hoping a quick 20lbs and I will be feeling better again, then I can start adjusting dose again...Thanks

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Thanks Peak....

Nothing too bad. I herniated 3 disks and have a couple bulging....I did 3 rounds of epidurals which have helped a lot! 4 months of PT....Going to start exercising on elliptical...very slow.

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All, hope everyone is well. So here are my latest bloods and a quick update....

On 4/30 I saw my doctor due to headaches and blood pressure. Had blood tested at Quest
Hematocrits = 55.5
RDW = 16.3
RBC = 5.92

I donated blood on 5/5 to lower hematocrit level

5/12 I did full blood test for my Endo TRT (every 7 weeks).

vitamin d = 29 low
Estradol sensitive = 32
RDW = 16
Test f = 132.7
Test = 617
Hematocrits 49.8
RBC = 5.4

Prior to blood test I was doing 60mg every 4 days. I have slowly been reducing my dose and increasing frequency (shortening time before dose)
So Endo and Cardiologist feel headaches and BP are from Hematocrits. Neither like the fact that the number is still too high even after blood donation. So my endo is now suggesting that I lower my Hematocrits and E2 level by reducing my dose to 40mgs every 5 days...I am definitely noticing my libido dropping as I continue to decrease my dose. Energy levels have been bad throughout the whole process....I have gained weight recently due to a back injury at gym which has me sidelined for past 4 months...I think my T level is pretty good at 617, dont want it to drop much lower, so Im hoping to lose some weight....what do you guys think of thee levels and Endo strategy? Thanks BB


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Hydranted, thats a good point. What Im hoping is to find a decent level where I can increase my cardio workouts and reduce my weight. Hopefully I will be able to get my E2 down even further in a natural way. Then I hope to have room to increase my T to the level I desire to be at. Time will tell. Hoping Hematocrit and RBC levels come down as well!

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