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I tried splitting the dose as well and it never really planned out until I cut the total dose. Good luck

I did start with gels and did well but had to stop due to cost. I use cypionate from Walgreens and it costs me $10 for 10ml bottle which pats 5 months. I will not use compounded medications so I choose the mainstream route.

FWIW for what itís worth. No I donít take AI and no one should unless warranted by labs or symptoms. Trust me itís best to keep things simple. Some people with high shbg do need larger doses but for me I feel much better at 60mg weekly. I could care less about building muscle and all that stuff. I just want to be healthy and feel normal.

FWIW I had the same issues with 100mg weekly and gradually lowered the dose to 60mg weekly and feel good the whole week. I have been on TRT well over 8 years and have high SHBG in the 60-70 range. My free t sits in the 10-12ng range at this dose and I feel drastically better than when it was 16-18ng in all areas. A lot of people including myself find after a lot of trial and error that lower levels tend to work better. I do 60mg once weekly with nothing else and feel fine.

Yeah Iím only talking a few months kept at room temp sealed and never punctured.

Just wondering if thereís been any testing that anyone is aware of regarding use of Cypionate beyond itís expiration date?

If it were me, I'd try something more conservative like clomid. You're really young to be committing to a lifetime of medication. I have been on TRT over 8 years and most of it has been terrible even with highly qualified doctors. That is a hefty starting dose in my eyes. I have shbg in the 70s and feel fine with t levels in the 600-750ng range. 150mg per week put me at 1360ng day 7. I am not a doctor and can't advise you what to do medically, but there's no way in hell I would commit to TRT with the levels you have without trying a conservative approach first.

Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / Re: Low HDL
« on: August 17, 2018, 10:14:12 am »
Yeah itís confusing as to where exactly this does take place. An example with me is at 100mg per week cypionate my HDL is 54 and with Androgel itís 60-62.

Testosterone, Hormones and General Men's Health / Re: Low HDL
« on: August 17, 2018, 05:09:25 am »
The thing I can't understand about testosterone and HDL is, whenever I have used topical it raises HDL several points and does the opposite with injectable. I understand the injectable has to be broken down in the liver but is it compromising the livers function resulting in lowered HDL or is there something else happening to cause this?

Yes for sure.

No one can tell you what to do as far as that but you do need to talk to your doctor.  You certainly donít need to inject any more testosterone in the near future and perhaps your doctor will prescribe a phlebotomy to bring your hematocrit level down some.  I donít understand for the life of me why doctors start patients out on a dose this high you could clearly cut your dose in half without any problem.

I ABSOLUTELY agree Cat.  In my 10 years of reading and researching TRT I have never seen anyones HDL cholesterol that low even guys in their 60s and 70s.

Itís really not only the lower HDL cholesterol, it is the fact that his hemoglobin and hematocrit are completely off the chart his liver values are elevated his kidney function is out of whack.  I mean he really needs to change something quickly.  Iíve always been told by every doctor Iíve had that anything less than 40 for HDL cholesterol put you at risk for heart disease.  I canít imagine what his blood pressure is right now on top of that.

Man you're a heart attack waiting to happen! I've never seen someones HDL that low. You need to see a physician to get a handle on this ASAP. You're clearly over dosing testosterone by far. Even your kidney function is screwed up.

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