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TRT4Years

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creatine use and TRT
« on: August 23, 2016, 11:52:14 pm »
Can you take creatine  when your on TRT ? or is there side effects ?

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Re: creatine use and TRT
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 01:17:10 am »
Can you take creatine  when your on TRT ? or is there side effects ?

I don't know of any issues, but I'm not a doc of course.  Hey, with creatine you want to make sure you are hydrated.

Also, I don't have time to look it up now, but I posted a study on here that showed that loading levels of creatine increased formaldehyde by 270% or something insane like that.  I haven't taken it since until they study that in more detail.  I was only taking 3-4 gram per day but I don't even want 30% more formaldehyde!
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Re: creatine use and TRT
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2016, 03:37:06 am »
two things that can both greatly increase water retention.  i know for me, as someone who has used creatine in the past, it can be a helpful tool, but i discontinued it due to water retention issues.  now as someone who is using trt, i greatly switched to cardio over weights because i have to battle water retention on testosterone injections and hcg.  i can imagine if i used them together, i would get incredibly strong but also feel incredibly inflated with water.  for myself, its an uncomfortable feeling and i get anxiety, probably from increased blood pressure due to water retention.

some guys like being massive and bulky, not for me but im guessing the two would work well if that was your goal.

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Re: creatine use and TRT
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2016, 06:27:51 am »
I've taken creatine monohydrate both before starting TRT and after starting TRT and haven't experienced any negative side effects from it. I take about 5 grams of creatine monohydrate each day mixed in my protein shake.   
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Re: creatine use and TRT
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2016, 03:44:00 pm »
My Pre-Workout has creatine HCL and i've never had an issue using it, both before and now during TRT.
I drink plenty of water too though.
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Re: creatine use and TRT
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2016, 01:23:53 pm »
Creatine will convert testosterone in to DHT, another powerful androgen.  This might be a good thing, as the excess test will no longer be able to convert into estrogen if it's being converted to DHT.  DHT gives many of the same benefits of regular test, but there might be draw backs (depending on your genes, I guess).  It's been known to increase hair loss in men prone to be balding anyway.  It also will increase your body hair. 
Personally I LOVE creatine.  It improves my lifting a ton, and makes my muscles fuller.  It will add water weight, since it pulls water into the muscle's cells.  But that also makes them bigger, so it's a good trade off.  Also I don't have any balding issues, and I don't mind the body hair increases.
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Re: creatine use and TRT
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2016, 05:45:17 pm »
Creatine will convert testosterone in to DHT, another powerful androgen.  ...

That's an interesting result. I wonder if it occurs under TRT? Here's the study.

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RESULTS:
After 7 days of creatine loading, or a further 14 days of creatine maintenance dose, serum T levels did not change. However, levels of DHT increased by 56% after 7 days of creatine loading and remained 40% above baseline after 14 days maintenance (P < 0.001). The ratio of DHT:T also increased by 36% after 7 days creatine supplementation and remained elevated by 22% after the maintenance dose (P < 0.01).

CONCLUSIONS:
Creatine supplementation may, in part, act through an increased rate of conversion of T to DHT. Further investigation is warranted as a result of the high frequency of individuals using creatine supplementation and the long-term safety of alterations in circulating androgen composition. STATEMENT OF CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Although creatine is a widely used ergogenic aid, the mechanisms of action are incompletely understood, particularly in relation to dihydrotestosterone, and therefore the long-term clinical safety cannot be guaranteed.
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Re: creatine use and TRT
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2016, 05:45:17 pm »