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Anon123

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Penile Sensitivity
« on: April 24, 2012, 07:09:02 pm »
Some background:

Age: 30.
Diagnosed with OCD aged 19/20.
Started taking anti-depressants aged 22. Paxil. Noticed it was difficult and sometimes impossible to climax when masturbating.
Diagnosed 2001 with Varicoceles.
On and off SSRI anti-depressants over the years, mainly Prozac.
Diagnosed with colitis: 2005. Flareups now and then over the years.
Currently taking Prednisolone and about 2 weeks ago I stopped taking Prozac, having begun to take it for about 2 or 3 weeks.
I take Melatonin on week nights to help me sleep as anxiety keeps me awake. It helps a bit. I read that taking it can lower Dopamine though.

Now I think that I may have been permanently affected by the drugs, and not just because of the latest drugs use and the colitis flareup.

I did it successfully yesterday, but today, I actually tried to masturbate again, and although I could get a fairly good erection, I found myself unable to climax. It's like the penis loses its senistivity and my mind is emptied of all sexual thoughts, and it is like you are rubbing your wrist - there is no sensual feeling. If I leave it for 2 or 3 days, my ability to masturbate comes back. At the time, it is like there are no sexual thoughts in my head, and even if I had sexy images in front of me, it's still not happening. It's kind of like there is no 'x factor' - there is nothing for my mind to bite onto that will allow me to climax. I don't know if its a dopamine issue, perhaps some permanent damage by SSRi, as I understand that SSRIs can leave permanent dexual dysfunction effects in some people.

It seems to be the case that my penis is not as sensitive as it used to be. For example, when I was a teen, in the shower I could climax just from the jet of water, but now, it either feels pleasant or else, like today, I feel nothing at all. I should add that this can happen even without having taken any SSRIs. What gives?
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Re: Penile Sensitivity
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 09:23:16 pm »
Hi Dermot. I'm not your best bet for getting to the bottom of your problem. I just wanted you to know that I too have had this question about penile sensitivity. That's what seemed to be my challenge in the last couple of years. (I'm in my mid-40s.)

I haven't had any of the potential factors you list, such as anti-depressants.  I just began to notice that, in addition to whatever frustrations I was experiencing (ED, low libido,) it also seemed like my penile sensitivity was low.  After reading Lee's e-books, I self-diagnosed that it was an issue with my epithelium, the skin layer through which blood vessels wind.

I can tell you that, in implementing many of the recommendations found on this site over just the last 3 months, I've experienced a very encouraging rebound--in libido, erectile strength and sensitivity! 

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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 04:40:43 am »
First of all, I recommend against dwelling on the concept of "permanent damage".  Yes, there is permanent damage very often, but almost always it can be partially and even largely reversed.  Remember:  humans are generally not build without any contingency or buffers or safeguards.  We would have never survived this long if that were the general pattern.  Besides, you give up looking for solutions if you think that way...

Now I know why you said this.  For example, the following study "suggests that after SSRI treatment, difficulties with desire and psychological arousal in depressed women tend to remit, whereas in men orgasmic dysfunction appears to be a side effect of medication. (Am J Psychiatry 1997; 154:17571759)"

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article?Volume=154&page=1757&journalID=13 "

In fact, there is a term "orgasmic dysfunction" and SSRI's are front and center stage with this disorder.  Listen to this description from the above study:

"Sexual dysfunctions, including loss of desire, erectile dysfunction, delayed ejaculation, and anorgasmia, are widely accepted as frequent side effects of treatment with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI) antidepressants."

Don't give up though.  There will be an answer out there for you, but you're going to have to do your research.  If I hear anything I'll let you know

Also, did you ask your doctor about possible neuropathy from the colitis?  The lack of sensitivity sounds more along those lines.  Here are a few examples:

http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/128/4/867.full
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1440-1819.1994.tb03086.x/abstract

This says it's relatively uncommon:

http://www.turkgastro.org/pdf/479.pdf

However, I wonder if it is due to nutritional deficiencies?  Perhaps a nutrional workup would be advisable.

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Re: Penile Sensitivity
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 06:55:06 pm »
Thanks guys for your links.

Peak T, those articles are pretty technical but my reading of them is that the colitis itself can cause the neuropathy damage rather than the drugs taken to deal with it. The drugs I take are Azathiprine (Imuran) and Mesalazine (Asacol) as well as steroids when I flareup. I will see the gastro-enterology specialist in May I think, so I will ask him then, but I think his take on it is if we can get colitis in remission, that's great. It is, but it would be nice to have my other concerns listened to. My GP is a waste of time.

It's pretty sad to think about it, but I remember when I was 22 (before I got colitis) I was pretty horny. Whereas now, I am still somewhat, but definitely the performance and vibrancy is not what it once was. I had thought that was just aging or maybe the SSRIs, but now I see that colitis itself could be a factor.

I am thinking presently about diet. I will find it very hard to change my diet. Many of the foods that are healthy may actually cause a flareup  of colitis. I got the book INFLAMMATION NATION this morning so I will give it a read.

Jonathan, what have you found to work particularly well for you? I'd love to try the Ornish Diet. I will ask my specialist, but I think it could be a recipe for disaster for someone with UC. I could be wrong of course.

There's so many good things I would like to try to help me, but I think this latest flareup of colitis was caused by my taking some supplements, although I am not precisely sure which. It's is ridiculous I think, but there you are. I can't be sure that any new supplement I try won't cause problems. *sigh*
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 07:40:00 pm »
Sounds good.  I also very much recommend that you so some searches on various combinations of antibiotics, C. Diff and colitis.  I think that they will find that a significant percentage of cases of colitis were triggered initially by antibiotic use and the ensuing loss of flora. 

It is deplorable to me that they do not advise taking probiotics several hours after each antibiotic dosage.  Hospitals will give something as powerful as clindamycin and not even warn their patients of the monstrous risk they are taking in getting C. Diff and colitis.  And many other antibiotics can do the same thing.

But the practical take away is that I can't help but believe that optimizing your flora would not be a good thing but talk to your doc...
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 09:49:02 pm »
Sounds good.  I also very much recommend that you so some searches on various combinations of antibiotics, C. Diff and colitis.  I think that they will find that a significant percentage of cases of colitis were triggered initially by antibiotic use and the ensuing loss of flora. 

It is deplorable to me that they do not advise taking probiotics several hours after each antibiotic dosage.  Hospitals will give something as powerful as clindamycin and not even warn their patients of the monstrous risk they are taking in getting C. Diff and colitis.  And many other antibiotics can do the same thing.

But the practical take away is that I can't help but believe that optimizing your flora would not be a good thing but talk to your doc...
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What particular kind of probiotic would you recommend? I took them in the past but it made no difference.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 09:51:03 pm »
Well, if it didn't help, it didn't help.  But if you're int'd, pm me. (I'll share what Consumer Lab said and one I just bought, etc.)
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