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Specific Brand Recommendations
« on: February 05, 2012, 08:08:07 am »
I know, Peak, that you are scrupulous about not pretending to dispense medical advice and you rightly disclaim the receipt of any compensation for specific recommendations, but is there any way you can give me some kind of suggestions about where I can find such recommendations?

I'd like to know what brands of Pycnogenol, Korean Ginseng, Maca, Arginine and Icariin (HGW) are most trustworthy.  Any help would be appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 08:50:44 pm »
Consumer Labs are a great source of information and the subscription is quite cheap.  They do their best to make sure that you won't get lead poisoning, etc.

My two cents:  There are also some supplement manufacturers that have good reputations and have been established for years.  These kind of companies are unlikely to risk their business on risky suppliers just a shave a couple of cents.  Again, if you look through Consumer Labs reports, you can see which supplements do and don't have issues with their supplements and begin to get a feel for who is "watching the store".

Also, it is good to take a few minutes and read the supplement manufacturers quality standards. 
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 08:50:44 pm »


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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 04:25:28 pm »
Allrighty. Just signed up for my Consumer Labs membership.  Thanks for the tip.

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 06:00:27 pm »
Okay, so now I'm disappointed.  :o/

I subscribed to Consumer Labs, and although it seems worthy for someone who may be interested in testing results of a wide array of products, I didn't find much at all helpful for most of the products identified on this site.  Examples:

Korean (Panax Red) Ginseng:  On this one, they have great info.  Good deal.

Arginine:  Okay, pretty much every brand was approved.  Good.

Pycnogenol:  Nothing at all.

Maca:  Beside a mention here or there--and inclusion in a combination product--there are no tests on any brands of this one.

Horny Goat Weed:  They do not approve any brand they tested.  They do however approve a few products that contain HGW in combination with other things you may or may not want.  I see no testing on any concentrated extracts of icariin--which is spotlighted in your e-book.

Gotu Kola:  Nothing at all.

Tongkat Ali:  Nothing but a brief mention.

Oh well.  The Peak Testosterone site has been of tremendous help and encouragement to me.  And I like the idea of the Consumer Labs site--but I don't find it helped me much in identifying specific brands for most of the products I want to make a part of my diet.

Any other ideas?

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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 06:00:27 pm »


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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 06:21:51 pm »
Okay, sorry you were disappointed.  I should have asked more questions.

As far as Maca, Navitas is the "gold standard" as far as what I have heard and they have an excellent reputation.  The question that you need to decide on is whether or not you want gelatinized or not.  Some people don't have enough of a certain enzyme to digest the powder and will get indigestion from the powder though.  In that case, you might want to go gelatinized.  They have a a pretty good help desk from what I have seen.  And Navitas is in places like Whole Foods as well as on Amazon.  I think the natural form like this is much more potent than anything you can get in a capsule, but if someone else has had a different experience, they can chime in.

Pycnogenol:  you should be good with any major brand because the parent company tightly controls the product itself from what I have heard. 

And I've got to ask a question at this point:  don't you think that's enough supplements?? 

With HGW, you have to first decide what %extract of Icaarin you want.  Some go up to 20% from what I have seen.

CAUTION:  Of course, I have to recommend that you don't start taking supps without talking to your (hopefully good) doc.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2012, 06:26:29 pm by PeakT »
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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 09:30:01 pm »
In following your eBook, "Multisupplement Erectile Dysfunction," I'm wishing to combine the following:

L-Arginine
Maca
Pycnogenol
Korean Ginseng

But I have been experimenting with a Horny Goat Weed tea that I believe is enhancing my libido and (I think) working as a mild Viagra (PDE5 inhibitor.)  I noted your comment regarding supplements that have a concentrated extract of Icariin, "There are several reasons one may want to consider [it]..."

Thanks for your recommendation on Maca; I'm already using the Navitas brand of raw Cacao.  And it's good to know Pycnogenol is tightly controlled.  Consumer Labs has given me some good recommendations on L-Arginine and Korean Ginseng.  But what about some of these concentrated extracts of Icariin?  Any experiences?

Thanks!

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 10:19:51 pm »
This site claims to provide a 60% Icariin extract. 

http://www.hornygoatweedhealth.com/

Anyone try it?

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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 12:50:01 am »
My two cents:  I don't know anything about this manufacturer, but I'd go with one with a proven track record.  You always have to be concerned with priapsim, added but unlisted ingredients, contaminants, yohimbe, etc. 
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https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 01:22:39 am »
Thanks.  A proven track record?  Which ones?

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 02:00:11 pm »
Write me for that.  I'm trying to keep this forum generally free of specific product recommendations as possible. 

However, I will say this:  I always felt that if you look through Consumer Labs and look at the companies that are cited, you can see a clear pattern.  In addition, there are some manufacturers that seem to never be cited for product quantity or quality violations.

THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 05:56:48 pm »
Okay, see the Citrulline thread.  I posted a specific idea for the Icaarin there.
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And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 05:59:33 pm »
Will do.  Thanks.

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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 09:12:34 pm »
By the way, I have never ordered that one, so I am going to order to make sure it is as billed.  It should be good though:  Source Naturals is in many of the stores such as Vitamin Shoppe and online with VitaCost, which is recommended on ConsumerLab for example.  But you never know til' you get a bottle...
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 09:23:03 pm »
Check this out.  Another endorsement - Life Extension is recognized as a high quality supplement company - of some of the supplements we've been talking about including Icaarin:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2009/nov2009_A-Natural-Approach-to-Erectile-Dysfunction-that-Improves-Vascular-Health_01.htm
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
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And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Specific Brand Recommendations
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 09:33:15 pm »
That is the most exciting article I have read yet. Fantastic!

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