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More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« on: March 25, 2013, 10:01:30 pm »
From what I can tell, the Paleo Diet concept centers from the idea that man left the jungles a long time ago and significantly evolved while roaming the earth eating big game and foraging for roots and berries.  However, it looks like recent evidence casts extreme doubt on this whole romaticized concept:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/paleo_diet_myth  (See the News Flash.)

Scientists now believe, using mitochondrial DNA analysis that Mitochondrial Eve occurred about 160,000 years ago and we did not even leave Africa until about 95,000 years ago!  So much for the ancient hunter-gatherer, eh?

Anyway, if anyone is interested, here is an article:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/14367/20130322/mitochondrial-eve-common-ancestor-humans-migration-africa.htm

It's fascinating stuff no matter where you stand on Paleo Diets...
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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 10:02:43 pm »
Definitely- I already have a religion and it's not food-based :)

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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 10:12:09 pm »
Definitely- I already have a religion and it's not food-based :)

C'mon!  Everyone is religious when it comes to food...

Not sure if this is what you are talking about, but you'll see I kind of assume evolution is true.  I've got a lot of friends and family who don't so believe, so I'm certainly not trying to offend.  Obviously, I've got to put my feelings and opinions as the site is essentially a blog if you think about it but am not trying to ram anything down anyone's throat...
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 10:20:04 pm »
Oh about being dogmatic about diet.

I want to eat to enjoy health and life, and have good brain and immune function.  I assume my diet will continue to evolve as my body changes. 

Latching onto certain foods or a way of eating for emotional reasons or dogmatism sounds like an express ticket to bad health and misery :)

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 10:37:49 pm »
Oh about being dogmatic about diet.

I want to eat to enjoy health and life, and have good brain and immune function.  I assume my diet will continue to evolve as my body changes. 

Latching onto certain foods or a way of eating for emotional reasons or dogmatism sounds like an express ticket to bad health and misery :)

Well, if one eats a well-rounded, whole foods diet, you're going to a step ahead of 90% of the crowd from day one...
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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 10:38:59 pm »
Definitely- I already have a religion and it's not food-based :)

C'mon!  Everyone is religious when it comes to food...

Not sure if this is what you are talking about, but you'll see I kind of assume evolution is true.  I've got a lot of friends and family who don't so believe, so I'm certainly not trying to offend.  Obviously, I've got to put my feelings and opinions as the site is essentially a blog if you think about it but am not trying to ram anything down anyone's throat...
religon brain washes people
hurricanes are caused by  zeus being mad?  oh they arent?  when did that change?
my family went to EPCOT in 09 and took my sisters husband with us,
The big silver ball at EPCOT, its a ride and goes through historical events back from the very begining of time

my brother in law, would not go on the ride, he doesnt believe the earth is older than  7-10,000 years....at the time, my sister is now a lawyer, goes to court and puts people in jail etc, based evidence, yet she was with this guy?
My Dad would tell me, "love makes you do funny things"(and he lives in a house with a  3 car garage that he cannot park in cause my mom has it filled with "stuff" she buys from goodwill/garage sales.  so when it snows, he has to clear off his car....??
I get it, love is a drug...
I love food,  and I have reason to, like everyone else,  food tastes good, fills up my belly and does things to my brain, much like meth/other drugs do(increase Dopamine)  add in the excitotoxins and food is close to a legal drug.....just like love is a  drug.

but I can choose to stop eating bad food and it's tough, as I consider dieting a form of drug rehab,    and why do I choose to not eat that delicious food?  The cons outweigh the pros
that's how I decide things.....along with cost/risk
another trivial example:
my  dish scrubber that i use to *GASP* scrub my dishes,  went down my garbage disposal. Im not sure how, its just a wee bit smaller in circumference than the drain..
I could easily reach down and grab it and risk the garbage disposal switch suddenly turning on(as it never has before) OR I can use a some tongs and get it out
I spent 4 minutes using tongs instead of the 2 seconds of using my hand
  I guess Satan was asleep at the switch...  GET IT?
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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 10:40:42 pm »


Well, if one eats a well-rounded, whole foods diet, you're going to a step ahead of 90% of the crowd from day one...
some foods should never be eaten
twinkies come to mind
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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 10:47:15 pm »

some foods should never be eaten
twinkies come to mind

Potted meat is another.
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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2013, 11:16:09 pm »

some foods should never be eaten
twinkies come to mind

Potted meat is another.

what is potted meat?
meat in a can?
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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2013, 12:41:34 am »
Well, it depends on which fine brand you wish to purchase.  I don't see how you can go wrong:

"Armour Star: Mechanically separated chicken, beef tripe, water, salt, and less than 2%: mustard, natural flavor, garlic powder, vinegar, dextrose, sodium erythorbate, and sodium nitrite.

Hormel: Beef tripe, mechanically separated chicken, beef hearts, partially defatted cooked beef fatty tissue, meat broth, vinegar, salt, flavoring, sugar, and sodium nitrite.

Libby's: Mechanically separated chicken, pork skin, partially defatted cooked pork fatty tissue, partially defatted cooked beef fatty tissue, vinegar, less than 2% of: salt, spices, sugar, flavorings, sodium erythorbate and sodium nitrite."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potted_meat_food_product
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2013, 02:55:39 am »
All this would mean is that the paleolithic period is about 10x shorter than we thought but it wouldn't really change much as far as the paleo diet philosophy goes. Unless of course you can prove that cave men were eating twinkies.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2013, 03:22:37 am »
All this would mean is that the paleolithic period is about 10x shorter than we thought but it wouldn't really change much as far as the paleo diet philosophy goes. Unless of course you can prove that cave men were eating twinkies.
of course they were all eating twinkies!  duh, look around, do you see any cavemen today?  no,  eating twinkies killed them all off!
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2013, 06:36:02 am »
All this would mean is that the paleolithic period is about 10x shorter than we thought but it wouldn't really change much as far as the paleo diet philosophy goes. Unless of course you can prove that cave men were eating twinkies.

Like I said, I think they'll get Paleo to work.  But, if they do, it'll be cuzz it somehow meshes with our African past.
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Re: More Doubts Cast on Paleo Diet Assumptions
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2013, 02:24:58 pm »

some foods should never be eaten
twinkies come to mind

Potted meat is another.


OMG Are we really saying these things aren't healthy. My loving grandma fed us a potted meat sandwich and twinkies for lunch every day LOL
Of course we also had Free Range Organic tripe and beef hearts when we butchered a cow and we snuck out to the barn to eat more than our share of outdated twinkies that the bakery gave my grandpa to feed to the hogs.

No wonder I am so healthy today!!!

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2013, 04:16:54 pm »

My loving grandma fed us a potted meat sandwich and twinkies for lunch every day LOL
Of course we also had Free Range Organic tripe and beef hearts when we butchered a cow and we snuck out to the barn to eat more than our share of outdated twinkies that the bakery gave my grandpa to feed to the hogs.

No wonder I am so healthy today!!!

Wow.  Well, now I know where the expression "hearty meal" comes from.

Another of my favorite foods is Velveta Cheese.  There's nothing like it in the universe:  they managed to create a completely distinct chemophysical compound and somehow market and sell it all over the planet.  I used to beg my parents for the stuff...
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