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diabetes and plant based diets
« on: February 01, 2017, 07:30:26 pm »
More evidence Peak is on to an answer, plant based is the way to go


http://www.sebastiangrubb.com/resource/article/Mastering-Diabetes-Interview-with-Cyrus-Khambatta-PhD


I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in my senior year of college in 2002, and adopted a low carbohydrate diet high in fat and protein, because that's what my doctor and nutritionist told me to do at the time.

I felt terrible and my blood glucose was all over the place, so I instead adopted a low-fat, plant-based whole foods diet and have been able to reduce my insulin usage by 40% while increasing my intake of carbohydrates by 500%.

I teach people how to adopt a low-fat, plant-based whole foods diet for increased insulin sensitivity, and I love EVERY minute of my job.
I received a PhD in a Nutritional Biochemistry at UC Berkeley in 2012 and consider it to be one of my wisest decisions. It provided me insight into the true detriment of saturated fat, and of the true power of a low-fat, plant-based whole foods diet in preventing and reversing heart disease, diabetes and cancer.

Id also look into
Weston A. Price Foundation (WAPF), co-founded in 1999 by Sally Fallon (Morell) and nutritionist Mary G. Enig (PhD), is a U.S. 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to "restoring nutrient-dense foods to the American diet through education, research and activism."
http://www.westonaprice.org/holistic-healthcare/the-invisible-toothbrush/
One of the many risk factors for heart disease is poor dental health. The root cause for both diseases is probably the sameľnutritional deficiencies, including deficiency of vitamin C. In this article, Dr. Emmanuel Cheraskin presents evidence that serum vitamin C levels are just as important as brushing for the prevention of tooth decay. His research also explains why primitive peoples on nutrient-dense diets have no tooth decay, in spite of the fact that they do not brush their teeth.

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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 04:26:13 pm »
Well, as far as health, I think both flexitarian and vegetarian diets will produce similar results to plant based probably.  (Just my opinion as a layman.)  But, when you throw in sustainability and the ethics of factory farm livestock, plant-diets are the clear winner in my mind. 

Moving this to main board as we now have a few guys who are plant based and this will be of interest to them.
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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 08:30:20 pm »
Well, as far as health, I think both flexitarian and vegetarian diets will produce similar results to plant based probably.  (Just my opinion as a layman.)  But, when you throw in sustainability and the ethics of factory farm livestock, plant-diets are the clear winner in my mind. 

Moving this to main board as we now have a few guys who are plant based and this will be of interest to them.

sup
so I had a repairman at my crib and he saw a bottle of Life Extension natural prostate---and asked me if it worked
I said I dunno, I dont have bph issues BUT I did read that specific forumula caused ED in some dudes, so I dont take it
if he wants to prevent BPH issues he needs to
-eat cranberries/grapefruit
-eat a low fat diet(under 15-20%)
make sure e2 is in a 20-30 range
-maybe take daily cialis?

and eat tomatoes and broccoli
According to this research, eating broccoli along with tomatoes maximizes the cancer protection both foods provide.

In the study, rats fed a tomato-and-broccoli combo had way less prostate tumor growth than rats given diets containing either food alone or normal rat chow diets supplemented with lycopene (a cancer-fighting carotenoid isolated from tomatoes) or finasteride (the drug commonly prescribed to men with benign prostatic hyperplasia or BPH).
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=130

other veggies to eat are:
 broccoli, cooked cabbage, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, kale, and sauerkraut)
spinach, romaine lettuce, garlic, yams, and mushrooms
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=btnews&dbid=45


I know there are several pages on the topic, but I am in a rush and I dont have time to sift out any good info.  am I missing anything on how to avoid/cure bph?

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/BPH_Benign_Prostate_Enlargement
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_BPH

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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2017, 04:34:58 am »
Well, as far as health, I think both flexitarian and vegetarian diets will produce similar results to plant based probably.  (Just my opinion as a layman.)  But, when you throw in sustainability and the ethics of factory farm livestock, plant-diets are the clear winner in my mind. 

Moving this to main board as we now have a few guys who are plant based and this will be of interest to them.

sup
so I had a repairman at my crib and he saw a bottle of Life Extension natural prostate---and asked me if it worked
I said I dunno, I dont have bph issues BUT I did read that specific forumula caused ED in some dudes, so I dont take it
if he wants to prevent BPH issues he needs to
-eat cranberries/grapefruit
-eat a low fat diet(under 15-20%)
make sure e2 is in a 20-30 range
-maybe take daily cialis?

and eat tomatoes and broccoli
According to this research, eating broccoli along with tomatoes maximizes the cancer protection both foods provide.

In the study, rats fed a tomato-and-broccoli combo had way less prostate tumor growth than rats given diets containing either food alone or normal rat chow diets supplemented with lycopene (a cancer-fighting carotenoid isolated from tomatoes) or finasteride (the drug commonly prescribed to men with benign prostatic hyperplasia or BPH).
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=130

other veggies to eat are:
 broccoli, cooked cabbage, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, kale, and sauerkraut)
spinach, romaine lettuce, garlic, yams, and mushrooms
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=btnews&dbid=45


I know there are several pages on the topic, but I am in a rush and I dont have time to sift out any good info.  am I missing anything on how to avoid/cure bph?

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/BPH_Benign_Prostate_Enlargement
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_BPH

Like a true evangelist...
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2017, 04:56:07 pm »

Like a true evangelist...

not at all

consider the guy is looking for directions to the movies.
I told him directions on how to GET to the movies, do I care if he goes? not at all
but I saw the fact he was thinkiing other directions(a Pill) would get him there and no, his directios were wrong.
I am not an evangelist( person who seeks to convert others to the Christian faith, especially by public preaching.)
and just someone who corrects you in either your grammer( our team did good today!)  or when your thinking about "cures" has been misguided by the commercialization of health


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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2017, 08:11:58 pm »
Well, as far as health, I think both flexitarian and vegetarian diets will produce similar results to plant based probably.  (Just my opinion as a layman.)  But, when you throw in sustainability and the ethics of factory farm livestock, plant-diets are the clear winner in my mind. 

Moving this to main board as we now have a few guys who are plant based and this will be of interest to them.

I'm inclined to agree but despite my inclinations there's quite abit of evidence that fully plantbased (i.e. vegan) makes a significant difference.   Dr Greger keeps pointing to more and more evidence of that.

Since there are multiple other reasons and since I've actually come to prefer eating entirely vegan I don't invest all that much energy in figuring it out.   Once you get past the barrier of it being different it's actually not especially difficult and rather enjoyable.
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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 08:21:38 pm »


I'm inclined to agree but despite my inclinations there's quite abit of evidence that fully plantbased (i.e. vegan) makes a significant difference.   Dr Greger keeps pointing to more and more evidence of that.

Since there are multiple other reasons and since I've actually come to prefer eating entirely vegan I don't invest all that much energy in figuring it out.   Once you get past the barrier of it being different it's actually not especially difficult and rather enjoyable.

Well, I was just going by the studies.  I'm sure you've seen the recent one where vegan, pescatarians and vegetarians were all neck-in-neck. But it could be that a well done plant-based diet could be the ultimate - I hope so!
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 11:28:11 pm »
Well, as far as health, I think both flexitarian and vegetarian diets will produce similar results to plant based probably.  (Just my opinion as a layman.)  But, when you throw in sustainability and the ethics of factory farm livestock, plant-diets are the clear winner in my mind. 

Moving this to main board as we now have a few guys who are plant based and this will be of interest to them.

LOLZ
do we really need to tell guys,"in my opinion"?  or sign our usernames after the post?

at any rate, I dont know any differences between a vegetarian and a vegan except emotional ones
Ive seen this movie called LION KING and it has a song "circle of life" and we are top of the food chain and we can eat whatever we want, cause we can
If you die in your house, your cat or dog, etc will eat you...are they "bad" cause they ate you?
nah
we are animals, we eat other animals
that being said, I dunno when I ate meat last...


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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2017, 11:30:38 pm »


Well, I was just going by the studies.  I'm sure you've seen the recent one where vegan, pescatarians and vegetarians were all neck-in-neck. But it could be that a well done plant-based diet could be the ultimate - I hope so!
pescatarians no meat, cept fish
vegetarians  no meat
vegan=a person who does not eat or use animal products. (as if wearing fur is bad for your arteries??)

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2017, 01:26:33 am »


Well, I was just going by the studies.  I'm sure you've seen the recent one where vegan, pescatarians and vegetarians were all neck-in-neck. But it could be that a well done plant-based diet could be the ultimate - I hope so!
pescatarians no meat, cept fish
vegetarians  no meat
vegan=a person who does not eat or use animal products. (as if wearing fur is bad for your arteries??)


You assume that one's arteries are only thing one might care about in this world.
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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2017, 02:16:32 am »
pescatarians no meat, cept fish
vegetarians  no meat
vegan=a person who does not eat or use animal products. (as if wearing fur is bad for your arteries??)

You assume that one's arteries are only thing one might care about in this world.

I've got to admit that I don't lose sleep over bee exploitation.
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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2017, 11:09:59 am »
pescatarians no meat, cept fish
vegetarians  no meat
vegan=a person who does not eat or use animal products. (as if wearing fur is bad for your arteries??)

You assume that one's arteries are only thing one might care about in this world.

I've got to admit that I don't lose sleep over bee exploitation.

Most people don't including most vegans. Fur though is not made by bees. 
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2017, 07:13:11 pm »


Well, I was just going by the studies.  I'm sure you've seen the recent one where vegan, pescatarians and vegetarians were all neck-in-neck. But it could be that a well done plant-based diet could be the ultimate - I hope so!
pescatarians no meat, cept fish
vegetarians  no meat
vegan=a person who does not eat or use animal products. (as if wearing fur is bad for your arteries??)


You assume that one's arteries are only thing one might care about in this world.

as is true on this forum/board

I merely defined words and linked it to what this site is about

people care about whatever they want, but this site is about our individual health not about if bees are ok, that kinda jibber-jabber needs to be in the other topics
Science Lovers, Concerns, Ideas and Hot Topics

unless bess DO affect my arteries? LOLZ

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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2017, 08:33:20 pm »


Well, I was just going by the studies.  I'm sure you've seen the recent one where vegan, pescatarians and vegetarians were all neck-in-neck. But it could be that a well done plant-based diet could be the ultimate - I hope so!
pescatarians no meat, cept fish
vegetarians  no meat
vegan=a person who does not eat or use animal products. (as if wearing fur is bad for your arteries??)


You assume that one's arteries are only thing one might care about in this world.

as is true on this forum/board

I merely defined words and linked it to what this site is about

people care about whatever they want, but this site is about our individual health not about if bees are ok, that kinda jibber-jabber needs to be in the other topics
Science Lovers, Concerns, Ideas and Hot Topics

unless bess DO affect my arteries? LOLZ

Right ... *I* was the one who threw in all the off-topic jibber-jabber  ... right ....

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Re: diabetes and plant based diets
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2017, 08:39:53 pm »


Right ... *I* was the one who threw in all the off-topic jibber-jabber  ... right ....

wasnt implying that anyone threw the topic off, just that this isnt the place for that line of whatever you want to call it

go start a new thread since that topic interests you, right?

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