Well, the advantage to the Esselstyn program is that he has proven it works in many patients and it is similar to Ornish, whose studies corroborate.
And to be clear: I have only the utmost respect for Dr. Esselstyn's work. As they say, "You can't argue with success."
yes you can argue with success
Here's how to get to Las Vegas: WALK THERE
I walked to las vegas once.....you want to take plane/train/car? NO YOU MUST DO WHAT I DID AND WALK THERE! the success of my journey shows YOU HAVE TO WALK THERE!!!! makes sense, right? I got there, therefor YOU MUST WALK THERE
I am confused by the "science" of the FoK movie.
I see the results of the fat people having their arteries de-clogged,but I don't see them being fat with clear arteries, I see that they are thin with clear arteries/
so show me a study where fat people with clogged arteries and half go FoK route and the rest just diet?
I dont see that
In Forks over Knives(FoK)
1.people who ate animal protein had blocked arteries and generally were fat.
2 fat people got cancer
3 when they lost weight, the arteries/medical issues repaired themselves
-Two things happened via dr E: 1 no more animal protein, 2 people lose weight
so it's then thought that animal protein makes us have clogged artieries, so make people stop eating animal protein and then the blockages decrease
why am I too assume this has anything to do with the animal protein? why not just being fat led you to have clogged arteries?
diet and stop being a fatty and you'll not have clogged vessals?
china study showed cancer happened in wealthy people(who ate meat? and were wealthy) so the poor people didnt eat meat and didnt have cancer/blockages
so why is meat the problem? why not wealth?
Dr E/campell say is it because animal protein turns on cancer growth? so even though eggwhites are fat free, I can't eat them cause they are from an animal?
so so the amino acids I get from eggwhites are different than the ones I get from the safe
rice protein?http://anthonycolpo.com/forks-over-knives-the-latest-vegan-nonsense-dissected-debunked-and-destroyed/One of Campbell’s pivotal arguments in The China Study, repeated in Forks Over Knives, was research showing that rodents administered aflatoxin were more likely to get cancer if they ate high-protein (20%) diets. According to Campbell, the furry little buggers fed low-protein (5%) diets were less likely to develop malignant tumours. The protein in these diets was derived from casein, one of the two main protein fractions of dairy (whey being the other).
Sounds like a pretty damning indictment of high-protein diets, doesn’t it? Well, at least if you’re dumb enough to overlook the fact that virtually no human derives all his/her protein from casein. And that no human is a rat…physiologically speaking, that is.
And there’s one other teeny weeny detail that Campbell conveniently neglected to mention: the low-protein rats died at an earlier age! No wonder they got less cancer – they didn’t long enough to develop malignant tumours
Ive read lots of those stuff that debunks this stuffhttp://anthonycolpo.com/forks-over-knives-the-latest-vegan-nonsense-dissected-debunked-and-destroyed/
I dont see science, I see the same science as in the "it's raining therefor the GODS ARE MAD!"
Compared to the typical modern diet, yes vegetarianism is typically a step forwards. But the modern meat based diets in high in meat, saturated fat and low in fruits, vegetables, etc. Those folks are typically inactive, obese, under a lot of stress, etc.
Now compared that to an athlete eating a lot of leaner cuts of meat, lots of fruits and vegetables, who is active, lean, etc.
I know who I think will be healthier.