Testosterone too high feelings or symptoms?

[Quincy]

After the 6 to 9 months at 600 to 800 did you by any chance lose an appreciable amount of weight?  As Peak and many others will tell you, this will also cause your T to rise.  I know a guy at the gym that was suffering from T levels at 300 and Kaiser told him to go pound sand regarding TRT.  They told him to lose weight first and then they would retest and see where he fell.  So he did.  He lost about 25 pounds and his T level went up to 450!

Ken, I thought about that also, but wouldn't that only be true if you were not on TRT. Once you start up on TRT I think your natural production becomes insignificant?

I wonder how much T gets converted to E2 and maybe that explains it? He is taking an AI and reduced his E2 significantly.

[Prsartist]

Interesting....

I have been dieting for the past month
And eating healthier food...

However I don't think I've lost much yet.
( dont have a scale),  certainly not enough to make that kind of jump!

I think the HCG also stimulates production, but according to my dr's
This is an insignificant amount.....

[Ken]

Quincy, I completely agree regarding the natural production becoming insignificant.

However, as I understand all of the processes involved I believe the supplemental T can be consumed more when it is converted to E2 via the fat cells.  Less fat cells means less conversion of T to E2 which should mean more remaining T I believe.

If I'm missing something here feel free to chime in.

Cheers

[Quincy]

Ok...we are looking at it the same way. I wonder how much T actually gets used up from E2 conversion? If Prsartist AI reduced his E2 from 80ish to 30ish for example, it would be interesting to know if most of his T gain (400ish) was due to less conversion. That would be huge.

Funny thing is I've never seen any studies that explores this. Seems pretty important if indeed this is such a big factor.

[Prsartist]

I asked my DR. That very question!
He said NO.  Use of AI does not effect T levels either way!

But wasn't sure why this last lab was so high..