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Vitamin C - Love it or Leave it?
« on: April 11, 2013, 12:46:35 pm »
Nitrosamines, as far I know, come primarily from eating an amine-based food (citrus, raisins, cheese, fish, tomato, etc.) and a nitrate laden food (lettuce, spinach, beets, etc.).  Now you can get some from processed meats (which also have nitrites) - they add it as a preservative - and from smoking.  (Tap water will also often have lots of nitrates.)

Dr. Bryan argues that nitrosamine in whole foods cannot be an issue.  His reasoning is that there is zero evidence that eating nitrates causes cancer - in fact, quite the opposite.  And the reason may also be that flavonols and Vitamin C inhibit nitrosamines. 
even better reason to eat oranges?  citrus, have vit C, and have nitrates?
one navel orange packs ~80milligrams of vitamin C

I wouldnt eat organes to get the 1-3g of vit C a day though
Papaya =140mg
Red Bell Peppers=190mg
Broccoli/150g=130mg
Kale(2 cups)=160mg
Strawberries(147mg)=90mg

Why Take Vitamin C?

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Well, there's a lot of reasons to take Vitamin C.   One comment, though, about the relationship of Vitamin C to nitrosamine formation.  One study found that Vitamin C actually increases nitrosamines if there is sufficient fat in the stomach, i.e. you eat a non-low fat diet.  If you eat a Low Fat Diet, it will probably do the opposite.

This is just one study and there is considerable argument about the subject. 
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Re: Vitamin C - Love it or Leave it?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2013, 01:43:35 pm »
Well, there's a lot of reasons to take Vitamin C.   One comment, though, about the relationship of Vitamin C to nitrosamine formation.  One study found that Vitamin C actually increases nitrosamines if there is sufficient fat in the stomach, i.e. you eat a non-low fat diet.  If you eat a Low Fat Diet, it will probably do the opposite.

This is just one study and there is considerable argument about the subject.

I've been mega-dosing vitamin C for a year now and had nothing but positive results. I think it works to restore your arteries and I'd recommend it to anyone who has heart problems.
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Re: Vitamin C - Love it or Leave it?
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2013, 03:47:15 pm »
Well, there's a lot of reasons to take Vitamin C.   One comment, though, about the relationship of Vitamin C to nitrosamine formation.  One study found that Vitamin C actually increases nitrosamines if there is sufficient fat in the stomach, i.e. you eat a non-low fat diet.  If you eat a Low Fat Diet, it will probably do the opposite.

This is just one study and there is considerable argument about the subject.

I've been mega-dosing vitamin C for a year now and had nothing but positive results. I think it works to restore your arteries and I'd recommend it to anyone who has heart problems.

Can't remember:  are you doing lysine and proline also?  I remember your story though...
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2013, 12:26:09 am »

I've been mega-dosing vitamin C for a year now and had nothing but positive results. I think it works to restore your arteries and I'd recommend it to anyone who has heart problems.
what results are you getting from mega-dosing the vitamin C?
what kind of vitamin C do you use?

-Blaylock says never use ascorbic acid
-blaylock says take as calcium or magnesium ascorbate
-Vit C absorption is limited to 200mg-300mg, so take 3 -4 doses of 200mg  VitC/daily
-Take vit C on an empty stomach as it does increase iron absorption
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Re: Vitamin C - Love it or Leave it?
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2013, 03:49:59 am »

what results are you getting from mega-dosing the vitamin C?
what kind of vitamin C do you use?

-Blaylock says never use ascorbic acid
-blaylock says take as calcium or magnesium ascorbate
-Vit C absorption is limited to 200mg-300mg, so take 3 -4 doses of 200mg  VitC/daily
-Take vit C on an empty stomach as it does increase iron absorption
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I take a gram a day currently.  I do take it with food usually, so I'll heed your warning.  And I take Calcium Ascorbate.

Now you can't tease me with just that information:  why does he he say never take ascorbic acid?
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2013, 12:09:44 pm »
I take ascorbic acid. I never heard anything about it being any worse than any other form. The Linus Pauling institute doesn't seem concerned about it:
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html

Yeah I take it with 2 grams of lysine, but that might actually be unnecessary since I am on a high protein diet anyway and I'm sure I get way more lysine than that from my food.

Benefits? Well my entire cardiovascular system has improved dramatically and continues to improve. That's obviously a combined effect of exercise and total diet changes though.

Vitamin C absorption is not limited, but as you take more, the percent which is excreted in urine increases. It's a diminishing rate of return. I take a gram at a time, twice per day. I should be taking it three times per day, but I get lazy.

It's just vitamin C. I think it's one of the most researched things out there and it is one of the most beneficial supplements you can take. If I could only have one bottle in my medicine cabinet, it would be vitamin c.
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Re: Vitamin C - Love it or Leave it?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2013, 01:55:16 pm »
I take ascorbic acid. I never heard anything about it being any worse than any other form. The Linus Pauling institute doesn't seem concerned about it:
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html

Yeah I take it with 2 grams of lysine, but that might actually be unnecessary since I am on a high protein diet anyway and I'm sure I get way more lysine than that from my food.

Benefits? Well my entire cardiovascular system has improved dramatically and continues to improve. That's obviously a combined effect of exercise and total diet changes though.

Vitamin C absorption is not limited, but as you take more, the percent which is excreted in urine increases. It's a diminishing rate of return. I take a gram at a time, twice per day. I should be taking it three times per day, but I get lazy.

It's just vitamin C. I think it's one of the most researched things out there and it is one of the most beneficial supplements you can take. If I could only have one bottle in my medicine cabinet, it would be vitamin c.

Actually, you're not really taking that much.  Later today, I'll try to post what the Pauling Therapy protocal actually prescribes.  It's interesting stuff whether you're a believer or not...

And, yes, that's true the Pauling Institute is all for ascorbic acid as the best form actually from what I have heard.  I think it's hard on the stomach.

Blaylock mentions that you should not take extra Vitamin C unless you are taking extra Vitamin E.  Not sure why...
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2013, 02:02:49 pm »
And, yes, that's true the Pauling Institute is all for ascorbic acid as the best form actually from what I have heard.  I think it's hard on the stomach.

Blaylock mentions that you should not take extra Vitamin C unless you are taking extra Vitamin E.  Not sure why...

My stomach isn't the strongest. I guess I could try the calcium version next time.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 02:12:08 pm »
I mega-dose C when I feel an illness coming on. I'll usually do a gram an hour for four to six hours, then taper back to a few grams a day for a few days.

If I start early enough, it often wards off whatever is grabbing me...

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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 07:02:31 pm »

I take a gram a day currently.  I do take it with food usually, so I'll heed your warning.  And I take Calcium Ascorbate.

Now you can't tease me with just that information:  why does he he say never take ascorbic acid?
pg 279, Health and Nutrition Secrets
Dr Blaylock, MD
http://www.amazon.com/Health-Nutrition-Secrets-Russell-Blaylock/dp/0929173481

"Never Take Vitamin C as ascorbic acid.  It is far to acidic for general use and it will in many individuals, produce acidosis of the tissues, and lead to activation on hepatic mouth ulcers."
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Re: Vitamin C - Love it or Leave it?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2013, 07:27:50 pm »
I mega-dose C when I feel an illness coming on. I'll usually do a gram an hour for four to six hours, then taper back to a few grams a day for a few days.

If I start early enough, it often wards off whatever is grabbing me...

I do the same thing and couple it with a little extra zinc.  Works like a charm...
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2013, 07:28:47 pm »

pg 279, Health and Nutrition Secrets
Dr Blaylock, MD
http://www.amazon.com/Health-Nutrition-Secrets-Russell-Blaylock/dp/0929173481

"Never Take Vitamin C as ascorbic acid.  It is far to acidic for general use and it will in many individuals, produce acidosis of the tissues, and lead to activation on hepatic mouth ulcers."

Thx.  It always upset my stomach and that's why I take the "ester-c" form or its equivalent.
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2013, 07:05:36 pm »
I currently take about 1500mg/day Ester-C.  It is highly recommended for adrenal function as well.   Apparently the Adrenal glands have the highest concentration of vitamin c in the body.  So I have heard.

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2013, 07:47:12 pm »
I currently take about 1500mg/day Ester-C.  It is highly recommended for adrenal function as well.   Apparently the Adrenal glands have the highest concentration of vitamin c in the body.  So I have heard.

And tying into that:  Vitamin C is famed for its cortisol-lowering abilities.  See #4:

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