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Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« on: July 02, 2017, 05:24:29 am »
While I was on Clomid for about 8 months, the sensation I felt during orgasm was VERY strong. Whenever I'd masturbate, I'd literally say out loud while cumming "damn damn damn damn DAAAAAMMMN!" No exaggeration.  However, I started looking into HCG monotherapy because I felt I wasn't achieving optimal stiffness and libido with Clomid. 

This is my 4th week on HCG mono and so far I've noticed that while my penis seems "fuller" (in terms of shower vs grower), my orgasms lack sensation now. It's not merely that they're a little less sensational than they were with Clomid, it's a lot less. Basically, there's no sensation at all now. It's weird because I still get horny and hard and want to masturbate, but when I cum, there's no sensation. The ejaculate just empties out but I feel nothing.

In other words, on Clomid my orgasms were amazing, but otherwise, my penis looked deflated. On HCG, my penis looks fuller, but now there's no sensation during orgasm.

Any idea why this might be?  Why would orgasms feel better with Clomid than with HCG? 

Dr. Saya, I'd greatly appreciate your take on this.
1st Labs:
Total Testosterone: 497 (range is 348 - 1197)
Free Testosterone: 6.1 (range is 8.7 - 25.1)
DHEA: 204.2 (range is 102.6 - 416.3)
Luteinizing Hormone: 9.8 (range is 1.7 - 8.6)
Estradiol: 16.2 (range is 8.0 - 35.0)

Started 25mg daily Clomid (through Defy Medical) on 11/03/16

2nd Labs:
Total Testosterone: 962 (range is 348 - 1197)
Free Testosterone: 12.0 (range is 8.7 - 25.1)
DHEA: 377.5 (range is 102.6 - 416.3)
Luteinizing Hormone: 11.4 (range is 1.7 - 8.6)
Estradiol: 26.1 (range is 8.0 - 35.0)

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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2017, 01:16:23 pm »
Great orgasms can be part of the "honeymoon" period with elevated testosterone.  I don't know if that applies here, but it is a consideration.

How was your testosterone and estradiol on HCG vs. Clomid?
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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2017, 01:16:23 pm »


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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2017, 08:06:13 pm »
While I was on Clomid for about 8 months, the sensation I felt during orgasm was VERY strong. Whenever I'd masturbate, I'd literally say out loud while cumming "damn damn damn damn DAAAAAMMMN!" No exaggeration.  However, I started looking into HCG monotherapy because I felt I wasn't achieving optimal stiffness and libido with Clomid. 

This is my 4th week on HCG mono and so far I've noticed that while my penis seems "fuller" (in terms of shower vs grower), my orgasms lack sensation now. It's not merely that they're a little less sensational than they were with Clomid, it's a lot less. Basically, there's no sensation at all now. It's weird because I still get horny and hard and want to masturbate, but when I cum, there's no sensation. The ejaculate just empties out but I feel nothing.

In other words, on Clomid my orgasms were amazing, but otherwise, my penis looked deflated. On HCG, my penis looks fuller, but now there's no sensation during orgasm.

Any idea why this might be?  Why would orgasms feel better with Clomid than with HCG? 

Dr. Saya, I'd greatly appreciate your take on this.

We have quite a few guys on HCG Monotherapy on here and I don't think anyone has gotten that "wow" effect that TRT and Low Dose Clomid sometimes give.  Now what HCG Monotherapy seems to have a muted effect on the brain - I don't know.  My speculation is that it is due to a skewing the testosterone to estradiol ratio.

By the way, not everyone gets that nice brain boost from Clomid either - it really depends.  Many guys on here have had high tesotsterone from Clomid but no boost in libido whatsoever.
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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2017, 10:51:18 pm »
I also didn't do well on HCG mono 2 years ago when I had tried it. It just makes me feel worse idk why.

I swear there is a difference between HCG and endogenous LH otherwise so many people wouldn't be complaining about it and more would be getting great effects.
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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2017, 11:18:27 pm »
I also didn't do well on HCG mono 2 years ago when I had tried it. It just makes me feel worse idk why.

I swear there is a difference between HCG and endogenous LH otherwise so many people wouldn't be complaining about it and more would be getting great effects.
I agree

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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 02:47:28 pm »
While I was on Clomid for about 8 months, the sensation I felt during orgasm was VERY strong. Whenever I'd masturbate, I'd literally say out loud while cumming "damn damn damn damn DAAAAAMMMN!" No exaggeration.  However, I started looking into HCG monotherapy because I felt I wasn't achieving optimal stiffness and libido with Clomid. 

This is my 4th week on HCG mono and so far I've noticed that while my penis seems "fuller" (in terms of shower vs grower), my orgasms lack sensation now. It's not merely that they're a little less sensational than they were with Clomid, it's a lot less. Basically, there's no sensation at all now. It's weird because I still get horny and hard and want to masturbate, but when I cum, there's no sensation. The ejaculate just empties out but I feel nothing.

In other words, on Clomid my orgasms were amazing, but otherwise, my penis looked deflated. On HCG, my penis looks fuller, but now there's no sensation during orgasm.

Any idea why this might be?  Why would orgasms feel better with Clomid than with HCG? 

Dr. Saya, I'd greatly appreciate your take on this.

We have quite a few guys on HCG Monotherapy on here and I don't think anyone has gotten that "wow" effect that TRT and Low Dose Clomid sometimes give.  Now what HCG Monotherapy seems to have a muted effect on the brain - I don't know.  My speculation is that it is due to a skewing the testosterone to estradiol ratio.

By the way, not everyone gets that nice brain boost from Clomid either - it really depends.  Many guys on here have had high tesotsterone from Clomid but no boost in libido whatsoever.
There are LH receptors all over the body, including the more peripheral (emotional) centers of the brain. Stimulating them with the LH-mimic HCG, in a LH deficient patient (such as ALL those on TRT) can only help. If they did not serve a purpose, they would not be there.

Supplementing with a roughly physiologic concentration of the LH mimic HCG is only giving the body what it is used to. That is why (starting at) 100iu per day (mornings are best for delivering benefits throughout your busy day) can work wonders.

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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 04:27:26 pm »
Currently I'm doing 300iu/day. Perhaps I should decrease dosage to 100iu/day? Seems like an awfully low dose though.
1st Labs:
Total Testosterone: 497 (range is 348 - 1197)
Free Testosterone: 6.1 (range is 8.7 - 25.1)
DHEA: 204.2 (range is 102.6 - 416.3)
Luteinizing Hormone: 9.8 (range is 1.7 - 8.6)
Estradiol: 16.2 (range is 8.0 - 35.0)

Started 25mg daily Clomid (through Defy Medical) on 11/03/16

2nd Labs:
Total Testosterone: 962 (range is 348 - 1197)
Free Testosterone: 12.0 (range is 8.7 - 25.1)
DHEA: 377.5 (range is 102.6 - 416.3)
Luteinizing Hormone: 11.4 (range is 1.7 - 8.6)
Estradiol: 26.1 (range is 8.0 - 35.0)

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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 07:31:30 pm »
Currently I'm doing 300iu/day. Perhaps I should decrease dosage to 100iu/day? Seems like an awfully low dose though.
It's where I usually START my patients.
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Re: Why Are Orgasms Better On Clomid Than HCG?
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