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Blade78

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Exaggerated Claims
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:13:59 am »
First of all, Mike Mahler is the real deal and so I have no doubt it will raise testosterone in many men.

But you still have to take care of your arteries. Testosterone will not do that of course magically for you.

Same thing if you went on hrt right?
yeah, sure.,real deal my butt.  I'll pay you $100USD if he ever comes out with anything that increases test by 300%.  within a year, otherwise you owe me $100.
Deal?

Of course,  you'd still have to deal with eating right,  I posted that stuff(bunk?) about the "study" saying taking fish oil was inferior to eating fish.  I'm still not 100% clear on how they got those results.
I have a friend who is on AAS, his Test level is 800-900, hes gained 20lbs in 6 months and now has a buttload of "back acne" and he lives on meat...he's 24...I dont get why you'd do that to yourself.. but he wants more LBM more then he wants clear skin?


I post links to lyle mcdonald a lot cause the guy knows his stuff(about working out, training, nutrition), so I'll post what he tells everyone to share---my only issue with this post is, I dont know much about the whey/casein he recommends.
 I don't get why you'd bother with a bag of protein and make it into a shake, when you could just drink some egg whites, a  essential amino acids/complete protein.
Training Secrets
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/training-secrets.html
What stimulated this article was an experience I had last week. As described in the About Me page I’m currently living in SLC Utah training full time at the speed skating oval trying to make National or Olympic qualifying trials (making the team, of course, is the ultimate dream).

Anyhow, last week I made friends with one of the other skaters (most of the skaters at the oval are, shall we say, unfriendly. Coming from me that’s saying a lot. I personally think they carry the same elitist prick gene that road cyclists carry but I digress). He’s young and big, I shall call him The Big Kid (TBK).

So TBK and I are at dinner talking skating. He tells me that he moved down here to try and make the national team. Ok, I’m down. Except that when I see him at the rink, he’s usually spending more time hitting on the chicks instead of training.

TBK also opines that he is just convinced that the top guys must have some secret. Ah, there’s the rub, he’s still looking for secrets instead of realizing that the only secret is ass busting work over a long period of time. And that’s what stimulated this article.

I still get emails, see posts to my forum, etc. from people looking for that elusive training or diet secret. Something quick and easy, preferably in pill form that can be taken and make you great without putting in ass busting work over a long period of time.

Now, this is the American way, look for a quick fix secret instead of realizing that the only way to succeed is with ass busting work over a long period of time. Give me a pill, a piece of equipment, a piece of clothing (UnderArmor being the new clothing of choice for gym posers everywhere). Anything except for having to put in ass busting work over a period of time.

Anything. Supplement companies, magazines, equipment companies use this to their advantage. Read a muscle magazine, a fishing magazine, a women’s magazine, all use the same cover boilerplate that promises training, fishing or sex secrets. It’s the same wording.

    10 Training Secrets for Muscle Building
    10 Bassmaster Secrets for Catching a Big Lunker
    10 Sex Secrets You Can Use Tonight

Now, this reminds me of me when I was back in college, an athlete who desperately wanted to be better and who got sucked into all of the crap in the magazines. This magic supplement, this magic training program, I read the muscle magazines religiously for years just so I wouldn’t miss that one issue that contained the secret.

Then I got my head (partially anyhow) out of my ass.

Over time, as I gained experience (and the horror of all horrors: maturity), I realized that there are no secrets. The equation is simply ass busting work + time = results. There are no shortcuts, no secrets, no easy solutions (except drugs).

Sure, you need to train smart, you need to apply good principles to your diet and training and some stuff is relatively more effective than other stuff. But once you’ve got the basics, all you can do is bust ass for a long period of time. Or take drugs. Both work and, of course, drugs are easier. See my bromocriptine booklet for example.

So with that said, I give you the training and diet secrets I have developed over the past decade (note: this is why I’ll never be a best selling author).

Training Secrets for Size and Strength Gains (for Naturals)

    If you are natural, you must get stronger to get bigger. If, over time, you are not adding weight to the bar, you are not growing.
    Training a bodypart less than 2X/week will not give you optimal gains. An upper/lower split done Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri is close to optimal for most. Full body twice a week can work very well. Once every 5th day is the least frequently I would ever recommend a natural train. You’ll get less sore training more frequently and you’ll grow better. Save once/week bodypart training for pro bodybuilders (read: steroid users) and the genetically elite.
    When in doubt, do less volume, not more. You don’t need a zillion sets to stimulate hypertrophy, the bullshit written in the magazines to the contrary. If you can’t get it done in 4-8 hard sets (sometimes less, rarely more) you need to quit training like a pussy in the gym. I had a friend who sold supplements one time who kept asking me to design him a product that would really work. I told him to make a supplement that would make people work hard in the gym and watch their diets. He thought I was joking.
    Generally, basic compound exercises are best but isolation stuff has its place. Same for the machines versus free weights ‘argument’: both have their place. Anybody who tell you that you MUST do a certain exercise is arguing from an emotional stance, not a physiological one.
    If you think you can gain muscle without eating sufficient food or calories, you should quit bodybuilding and take up something easier, like golf. You can’t magically make muscle out of nothing, you need calories and protein to grow. If you can’t buckle down to eat enough on a consistent basis, you won’t grow an ounce of muscle. And spare me the excuses that you’re not hungry or your schedule won’t allow it. It’s about priorities, eat more or stay skinny.
    Most hardgainers train like idiots and don’t eat enough.
    Diets should be based around whole foods first, supplements second. Remember the hoopla over zinc and testosterone and ZMA from Balco Red meat is a great source of zinc, iron, B12 and protein. Not to mention who knows how many other trace nutrients that are involved in optimal human physiology. Eat it every day. Remember all of that crap about indole 3 carbinole. Guess what, it’s found in cruciferous vegetables like broccoli and cauliflower. Every time you hear about a new magic compound, 99 times out of 100 it’s found in some whole food that you’re probably not eating. Eat whole foods with a shitpile of veggies every day.
    There is no singular best protein, each one has pros and cons. Generally, I thinnk casein is better for dieting, whey for around workouts, whole proteins the rest of the time. You can’t beat milk (and the dairy calcium has benefits on bodyfat). I think mixing proteins at a given meal is a good idea to eliminte any shortcomings of one. I think food combining (or protein rotation) is a lot of hippy holistic bullshit.

Dieting Secrets for Fat Loss

    You can’t magically lose weight unless you eat less or burn more calories with activity. Not unless you take drugs and those either make you eat less or burn more anyhow.
    Don’t bitch about how much you hate dieting or exercise. You can either change your diet and activity patterns, or you can stay fat. Those are your two options, except for drugs.
    To lose weight and keep it off you must change some aspect of your training and diet and do it forever.
    All diet books, no matter what line of bullshit they sell you, are working in terms of what’s in #3. Cutting all of the carbs out of your diet will generally make you eat less, so will cutting out all of the fat, so do diets taht change your eating habits in one fashion or another. Some books go the activity route. At the end of the day, even if they tell you that you don’t have to eat less to lose weight, they will trick you into doing it one way or another

Note: My job, as diet book author, is to turn Eat Less, Exercise, Repeat Forever into a 300 page book. Most diet books do it with 150 pages of recipes.

Everything else that you may come across, including my various gibberings in my books, are just details on the above. But at a fundamental level, until you are dealing with that 1% of 1% of trainees (elite athletes, bodybuilders trying to get to 5% bodyfat without muscle loss), those secrets are about all you need to know.

The equation is this:
Hard Work + Consistency + Time = Results.

Burn that into your head and quit looking for quick fixes and secrets.

Because they don’t exist.

“Don’t you feel good when you go to the gym?’ Not at all. There’s too many people in-shape there. When I go to McDonald’s I feel great. At McDonald’s I’m Matthew McConaughey.” --Jim Gaffigan - Mr. Universe

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Re: Exaggerated Claims
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 02:09:54 pm »
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Don’t bitch about how much you hate dieting or exercise. You can either change your diet and activity patterns, or you can stay fat.


Wow, this should be posted all over the world each time that someone whines about dieting; and I've done it myself. I'm one year into seriously working out, having pickedup up HRT and great eating habits on the road. I am amazed at how long things truly take. I am so happy with my muscle gains and body shape changes, but even so, after one year, I see that I have many more to go. Reading that it can take 7 years to reach your peak at first was disheartening. Then I "got it" and realized I get many more years of returns on my efforts, and that's encouraging.

You mentioned how cutting carbs helps you eat less, and I can confirm that. I cut out wheat over a month ago and I ABSOLUTELY eat less - I'm just not as hungry. Also, if you are looking for a simple diet plan, simply don't eat anything that includes wheat or gluten - period. You will find that cuts out 90% of the crap you SHOULDN'T be eating anyway. Buy a juicer and have a giant plate of veggies juiced every day to the mix, and you WILL start feeling better.

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 09:05:38 pm »
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Don’t bitch about how much you hate dieting or exercise. You can either change your diet and activity patterns, or you can stay fat.


Wow, this should be posted all over the world each time that someone whines about dieting; and I've done it myself.
Agreed, it goes for a lot of stuff.  I try to refrain from saying it a lot otherwise everyone would hate me.  I think it though when people say, "I hate....my job/my car/school"   I think, if you hate it, quit.
I try to be positive  about things, but I know when I don't eat or get sleep, I just see the darkness in everything and can't get  my brain to be positive.  I am sure that's how other people are; so miserable from what the drugs they eat all day(food) does to them, they only show their "bad" side.  Sometimes all it takes though is one person, one good deed and you can see the positivity/brightness in the day.  Which is why when I interact with people and they seem like they hate me/the world, I make jokes and I get a lot more energy in my personality, trying to rub some off on them. 
sometimes it works.

You mentioned how cutting carbs helps you eat less, and I can confirm that. I cut out wheat over a month ago and I ABSOLUTELY eat less - I'm just not as hungry. Also, if you are looking for a simple diet plan, simply don't eat anything that includes wheat or gluten - period. You will find that cuts out 90% of the crap you SHOULDN'T be eating anyway. Buy a juicer and have a giant plate of veggies juiced every day to the mix, and you WILL start feeling better.
Aren't you amazed by cutting wheat leaves out so much food?   I have a problem with this because I like food thats warm  sometimes.
I eat steel oats or hasbrowns  to get that warm food and I also munch on air popped popcorn.
“Don’t you feel good when you go to the gym?’ Not at all. There’s too many people in-shape there. When I go to McDonald’s I feel great. At McDonald’s I’m Matthew McConaughey.” --Jim Gaffigan - Mr. Universe

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 09:10:03 pm »
Yes, when I first cut out wheat I was stunned that it is in EVERYTHING.

My wife introduced me to all sorts of alternative grains, so that has helped a lot. I am a fan of pasta, but we've found a corn pasta we like. I know that can also spike blood sugar, so it's a very occasional thing. When they bring bread at a restaurant most of the time it doesn't bother me at all. Once in a rare instance the smell is so good I miss it, but not nearly as often as I thought I would. Overall, I really truly don't miss it.

We do eat lots of warm food. Chicken with Quinoa, cooked veggies (and raw too of course), occasionally wheat pasta. My wife is a good cook and likes to find healthy alternatives, so that makes it much easier for me. If I had to do it on my own, it would be brutal.

I have decided that I'm having a chocolate cake donu when this Dunkin Donuts opens though!  :P

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 09:39:08 pm »
First of all, Mike Mahler is the real deal and so I have no doubt it will raise testosterone in many men.

But you still have to take care of your arteries. Testosterone will not do that of course magically for you.

Same thing if you went on hrt right?
yeah, sure.,real deal my butt.  I'll pay you $100USD if he ever comes out with anything that increases test by 300%.  within a year, otherwise you owe me $100.
Deal?

so that's a no?
“Don’t you feel good when you go to the gym?’ Not at all. There’s too many people in-shape there. When I go to McDonald’s I feel great. At McDonald’s I’m Matthew McConaughey.” --Jim Gaffigan - Mr. Universe

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 09:51:24 pm »
Blade,

Is your real name Casey Butt by any chance?  Much of what I just read in this thread looks like what he states in some of his articles.  Even the writing style seems similar.

Just wondering.

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 10:05:42 pm »
Blade,

Is your real name Casey Butt by any chance?  Much of what I just read in this thread looks like what he states in some of his articles.  Even the writing style seems similar.

Just wondering.

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much of what you read in this thread came from the link that's in the thread
go back and read it
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“Don’t you feel good when you go to the gym?’ Not at all. There’s too many people in-shape there. When I go to McDonald’s I feel great. At McDonald’s I’m Matthew McConaughey.” --Jim Gaffigan - Mr. Universe

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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 10:21:11 pm »
Gotcha.  It is similar though to some of CB's articles.  For example:

http://www.weightrainer.net/training/rules.html

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 02:06:53 am »
Blade,

Is your real name Casey Butt by any chance?  Much of what I just read in this thread looks like what he states in some of his articles.  Even the writing style seems similar.

Just wondering.

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 05:57:51 pm »
Hi Blade ...Like your article (true about all the magazines!)and agree on the whole foods and hard workout ethic..Jack Lalanne  was proof of that.

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You can’t beat milk (and the dairy calcium has benefits on bodyfat). I think mixing proteins at a given meal is a good idea to eliminte any shortcomings of one. I think food combining (or protein rotation) is a lot of hippy holistic bullshit.
 

Disagree on taking milk as it may have protein but it ain't good for you...

http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 09:39:23 pm »
Hi Blade ...Like your article (true about all the magazines!)and agree on the whole foods and hard workout ethic..Jack Lalanne  was proof of that.



Disagree on taking milk as it may have protein but it ain't good for you...

http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/
didnt write the article, the guy I linked did
dont have a stance on milk, just posted what blaylock said about it
which isnt in this thread its here

Dairy and why do we eat it?
Blaylock says no to dairy

IE pg 258 "Health and Nutrition secrets that can save your life"
-....I disagree with the ch0ice of dairy products, since consumption of even low-fat ones increased incidence of heart disease and prostate cancer in men in other studies(353 reference number)

pg   266
"now what about eggs and dairy?  The solution is simple, "avoid all dairy products from cows, save a small amount of butter.  That means no milk, cheese, or ice cream.   A few of my patients have stopped coming to me when I recommended cutting ice cream from their diets, but the truth is humans were never meant to consume cow's milk. ............Think about it for a minute: why would humans be the only mammals on  earth that need to drink milk after weaning? Especially another animals milk? Elephants, who reach a healthy weight of five tons without snapping in two, manage to avoid milk. So do giraffes and rhinos?
.........exposing children to milk before age two is a major cause of juvenile diabetes(383-citation)  The reason seems to be because milk proteins resemble protein n the pancreatic island of Langerhans, which make insulin.   Through molecular mimicry the body attacks the insulin producing cells as well as the milk proteins.
--...This was reported in 1999, but there was no media outcry because of the  power/influence of the milk producers
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“Don’t you feel good when you go to the gym?’ Not at all. There’s too many people in-shape there. When I go to McDonald’s I feel great. At McDonald’s I’m Matthew McConaughey.” --Jim Gaffigan - Mr. Universe

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