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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2017, 03:22:01 pm »


That decreases the likelihood that it is testosterone-related (but we'll see - if his levels are low enough, it could be low testosterone, or partly low testosterone).  But it is pretty common for guys to have their function slowly decline, beginning in their 30's.  This is related to nitric oxide, artery function, etc.  For that, ED drugs will work.  There are also supplements, like citrulline and beet powder, that can help a lot.  And healthy habits in general - good diet, exercise and sleep.

Living in the UK, he will find it more difficult to get low testosterone treated, unless he is REALLY low... just my observation, seeing guys deal with the system over there (there may be private clinics that are easier to work with though).
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I never knew you guys suffered with this. As ive been been gathering what information i can im getting lots of fantastic information here. Some abit scary. Today is the day he goes for blood tests. Everything in the uk is bloody challenging. I can only hope things are simple but life never is. Feeling abit anxious today. Might i also add morning wood for him is not often either that makes me think low testosterone. I will
Give an update as soon as results come back. Thanks once again lads for the support here
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In men that are 50, you have two very common causes:  a) endothelial function, which is the ability of the arteries to relax and b) horrmonal issues.  The former is usually the major player but the latter is critical also.  The problem that plagues most guys as they age is that plaque begins to build up in the pudendal and penile arteries and this effects erections before it effects the heart.  The arteries are smaller than the cardiac arteries, of course, and so they are effected first and thus E.D. is actually a good warning sign - not always but generally in the 45+ crowd - of impending heart disease.

So I always encourage guys with E.D. to take heart parameters seriously.  I have a lot of info on my site on both the hormonal and the arterial aspect of things.  Here is some info on the hormonal aspect:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hdr_Nitric_Oxide

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/hdr_Arterial_Plaque_Regression
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And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2017, 05:07:33 pm »
Results are back. My partner as been called back into his gp on monday. Can you please help in giving me a normal testosterone level what number are we looking for to be a normal range guys. Im not good with all this what is supposed to be acceptable as i dont want gp fobbing my partner off i need him to be prepared if it is low testosterone he as. Will be back on monday to update you.

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2017, 05:07:33 pm »


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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2017, 05:53:31 pm »
Unless the doctor also tested SHBG you won't have the full story on testosterone. In general guys with total testosterone down in the range of 300-400 ng/dL (10-14 nmol/L) may start to have problems. Charts such as the one below can help show where he stands compared to his peers:


http://elitemensguide.com/testosterone-levels-by-age/

If necessary, use a site like this one to convert units: http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
Age: 60, Ht: 5'10", Wt: 154 lbs
Protocol: 3.2 mg TE subQ qd, 2.4 mg TP subQ qd, 20 mcg GnRH subQ 5.25x/d, 6.25 mg DHEA bid, 12.5 mg enclomiphene qod
Approximate levels (peak): TT: 700 ng/dL, E2: 30 pg/mL, DHEA-S: 300 ug/dL, SHBG: 30 nMol/L

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2017, 06:41:16 pm »
Unless the doctor also tested SHBG you won't have the full story on testosterone. In general guys with total testosterone down in the range of 300-400 ng/dL (10-14 nmol/L) may start to have problems. Charts such as the one below can help show where he stands compared to his peers:


http://elitemensguide.com/testosterone-levels-by-age/

If necessary, use a site like this one to convert units: http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

Thank you for that. Any information i can get all helps when facing our doctors in the uk.

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2017, 06:41:16 pm »


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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2017, 08:56:33 pm »
Unless the doctor also tested SHBG you won't have the full story on testosterone. In general guys with total testosterone down in the range of 300-400 ng/dL (10-14 nmol/L) may start to have problems. Charts such as the one below can help show where he stands compared to his peers:


http://elitemensguide.com/testosterone-levels-by-age/

If necessary, use a site like this one to convert units: http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

Thank you for that. Any information i can get all helps when facing our doctors in the uk.

Ditto to what Cat said.  Imo most guys feel good in the 600 to 1000 ng/dl range.  But you can have guys feel good  in the 400s and 500s.  It is quite variable.  There is no magic number for everyone. Usually guys will not feel good inthe 300s.  As Cat said, if SHBG is above 40 or so that makes it worse.
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And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2017, 07:27:50 am »
Hi guys. Partner had results. Good testosterone. All clear everything is normal. Erectile Dysfunction is what he has. Hes been referred to a clinic here in the uk for medication. As hes partially sighted in one eye im guessing they have to look at what he can take. Any further advice about viagra meds as im reading it can interfere with sight. I can honestly say its a relief he didnt have many signs of low t just low sex drive and not been able to keep his man piece up for long. Any further advice on this erectile dysfunction.

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2017, 09:36:00 am »
Hi guys. Partner had results. Good testosterone. All clear everything is normal. Erectile Dysfunction is what he has. Hes been referred to a clinic here in the uk for medication. As hes partially sighted in one eye im guessing they have to look at what he can take. Any further advice about viagra meds as im reading it can interfere with sight. I can honestly say its a relief he didnt have many signs of low t just low sex drive and not been able to keep his man piece up for long. Any further advice on this erectile dysfunction.

It would be good if you could show his lab results. He can still be quite symptomatic even at “normal” levels. Also, pde5s, used carefully, are nothing to worry about. They are inexpensive is bought from Indian pharmacies, most owned by companies in the UK. Have him try low dose, 5 mg per day, cialis.

Also, get him to do his own posting. He is going to need some support and should be the one asking the questions.
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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2017, 01:40:58 pm »
If he already has a vision problem then you are correct to be worried. Peak has a page on the potential problems http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cialis_Vision_Tinnitus
He mentions the story of a member who suffered from NAION from taking 20mg of cialis.

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2017, 05:58:45 pm »
Hi guys. Partner had results. Good testosterone. All clear everything is normal. Erectile Dysfunction is what he has. Hes been referred to a clinic here in the uk for medication. As hes partially sighted in one eye im guessing they have to look at what he can take. Any further advice about viagra meds as im reading it can interfere with sight. I can honestly say its a relief he didnt have many signs of low t just low sex drive and not been able to keep his man piece up for long. Any further advice on this erectile dysfunction.

Doctors have a poor understanding of what normal testosterone level are especially in the UK, don't take their word for it!

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2017, 01:47:30 am »
Hi guys. Partner had results. Good testosterone. All clear everything is normal. Erectile Dysfunction is what he has. Hes been referred to a clinic here in the uk for medication. As hes partially sighted in one eye im guessing they have to look at what he can take. Any further advice about viagra meds as im reading it can interfere with sight. I can honestly say its a relief he didnt have many signs of low t just low sex drive and not been able to keep his man piece up for long. Any further advice on this erectile dysfunction.

I believe Stendra has lower cross reactivity if you want to play it safe.  The issue with PDE5 inhibitors is that they also effect PD4 and PD3 to a certain extent and this can negatively impact sight, vision and the stomach in some men.  In rare cases, you can have horrible, permanent side effects. Stendra does not tend to affect these other PDE enzymes, but please confirm that with your doctor.  I'm just going off memory here.
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2017, 03:19:11 pm »
Unless the doctor also tested SHBG you won't have the full story on testosterone. In general guys with total testosterone down in the range of 300-400 ng/dL (10-14 nmol/L) may start to have problems. Charts such as the one below can help show where he stands compared to his peers:


http://elitemensguide.com/testosterone-levels-by-age/

If necessary, use a site like this one to convert units: http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

How come 25-34 group has lower T than 35-44?
Age: 46, HT: 5' 7'', WT: 75 kg

Jan 16 to Oct 16 - Test Enanthate (35mg 2x/week)
Oct 16 to Feb 17 - HCG (500iu 2x/Week)
Feb 17 - Test Propionate (25mg only 2 injections 4 days apart)
Aug 2017 onwards (Astaxanthin + other oils, supplements)
Dec 2017 Low dose TRT (25 mg twice a week)
Nothing from Jan 1, 2019

21/08/2017 8:10 PM
Total T = 271 ng/dl  (Range 160 - 726)
LH = 5.15 mIU/ml  (Range 0.8 - 7.6)

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2017, 03:46:07 pm »
How come 25-34 group has lower T than 35-44?

If it's a real effect and not a statistical anomaly then one possible explanation is because of the relatively lower SHBG in the former cohort. Recall that it's the level of free testosterone and estradiol that's being regulated, so lower SHBG means that less total testosterone is required to meet the set level of free hormones.
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
Age: 60, Ht: 5'10", Wt: 154 lbs
Protocol: 3.2 mg TE subQ qd, 2.4 mg TP subQ qd, 20 mcg GnRH subQ 5.25x/d, 6.25 mg DHEA bid, 12.5 mg enclomiphene qod
Approximate levels (peak): TT: 700 ng/dL, E2: 30 pg/mL, DHEA-S: 300 ug/dL, SHBG: 30 nMol/L

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2017, 07:20:54 pm »
Your husband is definitely at the right age for this sort of thing to happen, getting treatment in the UK is challenging.

Why, shouldn't the NHS cover everything?

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2017, 08:02:37 pm »
Unless the doctor also tested SHBG you won't have the full story on testosterone. In general guys with total testosterone down in the range of 300-400 ng/dL (10-14 nmol/L) may start to have problems. Charts such as the one below can help show where he stands compared to his peers:


http://elitemensguide.com/testosterone-levels-by-age/

If necessary, use a site like this one to convert units: http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

How come 25-34 group has lower T than 35-44?

Naughty 40's...... must be real musnt it, I certainly experienced it. :D
Age:60, Height 6' 3" weight 100KG
2014 Androderm Patches
2014-2016 Oral Andriol 160mg Daily
June 2016 Clomid/Serophene 12.5mg EOD
September 2016 no TRT all natural and supplements for the time being
February 2017 Testosterone cream 100mg daily

Sept 2016
Testosterone   8.2 nmol/l   9-38
Free Testosterone   239 pmol/l   L   250-800
SHBG:  14    nmol/L   9-60
Free Androgen index   586   >400
Oestradiol    112   pmol/L    <190
LH    2.6 IU/L Adult male   2 - 9 IU/L
FSH  1.4 IU/L Adult male L2 - 12 IU/L

22 November
T 6.8  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) L

March 2017
Testosterone:   45.0  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) H ( 1,323 ng/dl )
Free Testosterone:   1512  pmol/L ( 250-800 ) H
SHBG:   17  nmol/L ( 9-60 )
Plasma IGF-1:   227 ug/L ( 55-198 ) H
Plasma cortisol:   434 nmol/L ( 0600-1000 hrs 170-500 nmol/L )
HbA1c:   36 mmol/mol ( 20-40 )
LH:   <0.1 IU/L
FSH:   0.1 IU/L
DHT Plasma Dihydrotestosterone:   7455   pmol/L ( 223 ng/dl ) 
Reference Range Adult males  1000-6000 pmol/L

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Re: Boyfriend Struggling
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2017, 08:45:18 pm »
Your husband is definitely at the right age for this sort of thing to happen, getting treatment in the UK is challenging.

Why, shouldn't the NHS cover everything?

Simple, money and ignorance.

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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2017, 08:45:18 pm »