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If one is looking to boost t levels and limit estrogen conversion, would option 1 be as effective and less costly and more convenient?
This could fit in with your "tweaking and tuning" philosophy though. Perhaps if you make 10 small improvements, you'll be in good territory?
Quote from: PeakT on May 06, 2013, 01:44:30 pmThis could fit in with your "tweaking and tuning" philosophy though. Perhaps if you make 10 small improvements, you'll be in good territory?I feel like I've been put in a box :-)It was kind of a question that came froma suggestion in Dr. Shames book and the discussion on HCG only therapy. The biggest argument against DHEA seems to be the possibility that the preferred pathway is towards cortisol although I dont have any evidence to prove this.What if, the argument against DHEA is just a big conspriacy on the part of the T clinics since they cannot make tons of money off of a non-controlled substance and there was a way to use it more effectively. What about Pregnenolone + DHEA combined with natural estrogen blockers like Chrysin.Maybe just Pregenolone since DHEA seems to have more negative side effects from long term use associated with it?Just crossing my t's and dotting i's.
This thread couldn't have been more applicable to me. My personal story is in another thread, but essentially a course of antibiotics + a plant sterol supplement I was taking alterered my hormones and a heavy exercise session caused some kind of adrenal crash. I'm improving a lot with HCG and recently was prescribed Arimidex. I'm now at total T at 543 with high Esradiol (74) which I'm working on lowering right now. Anyway, back to the adrenal fatigue point I wanted to ask...at my 1st blood panel back in January when this happened, I pointed out the elevated cortisol...it was definitely out range and was a late afternoon reading in the 20s (should be in the teens at the most) and this was 2 weeks after the adrenal "incident" happened so presumably it was higher even before. A few days ago I asked for additional tests in my bloodwork other than the standard half dozen tests my urologist orders. One of them was DHEA which was very low 94ng/dl (ref range 61-1636) and keep in mind this is after 4 months of some adrenal healing. I feel absolutely certain after reading about adrenal fatigue that this phenomenon applies to me. The hormonal cascade is Cholesterol->Pregnenolone -> DHEA -> Testosterone -> E2 & DHT. I could probably use some stimulus on the adrenal side of the equation to help improve testosterone. Is a DHEA supplement one of those things that require lifetime treatment like T or do people cycle on and off of it? (Incidentally, I am moving over to be a patient of Dr Shippen who is more open minded on these types of things, as my current urologist seems to think I'm out there when I bring up adrenal issues as a partial cause of my problems.)
I suppose I'm following your ideology of "tweaking & tuning" and making 10 different endocrine "repairs" to see if I can get myself back in business.