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coffee + gynocomastia
« on: April 07, 2013, 07:58:48 am »
In some individuals, the two could be linked, apparently:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/86258-bad-effects-caffeine-body/

I'm gonna switch to decaf as an experiment. I usually have two or three regular mugs a day.
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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 02:43:34 pm »
In some individuals, the two could be linked, apparently:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/86258-bad-effects-caffeine-body/

I'm gonna switch to decaf as an experiment. I usually have two or three regular mugs a day.

Well, theoretically, anything that affects dopamine significantly - and of course caffeine is in this category - could worsen gyno.  Of course, it clearly is not doing that in the vast majority of people, but some people are strongly affected by certain supplements, drugs, foods, etc. that don't go along with the general population.  So give it a try and let us know what happens.

Btw, if you've had gyno for a long time, you know the tissues can harden, right?  Not trying to be a downer, but you can't expect it to recede if that is the case.
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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 04:22:03 pm »
In some individuals, the two could be linked, apparently:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/86258-bad-effects-caffeine-body/

I'm gonna switch to decaf as an experiment. I usually have two or three regular mugs a day.

Well, theoretically, anything that affects dopamine significantly - and of course caffeine is in this category - could worsen gyno.  Of course, it clearly is not doing that in the vast majority of people, but some people are strongly affected by certain supplements, drugs, foods, etc. that don't go along with the general population.  So give it a try and let us know what happens.

Btw, if you've had gyno for a long time, you know the tissues can harden, right?  Not trying to be a downer, but you can't expect it to recede if that is the case.

That's not what I want to hear, but thanks for telling me. I think this latest episode began about a month ago, with the wintergreen crisis. I stopped that stuff, the thing settled, but then started up again for no apparent reason. I have now also ceased coffee and will let you all know how it goes.
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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 01:31:27 am »


That's not what I want to hear, but thanks for telling me. I think this latest episode began about a month ago, with the wintergreen crisis. I stopped that stuff, the thing settled, but then started up again for no apparent reason. I have now also ceased coffee and will let you all know how it goes.

The thing about caffeine is that its affects are usually semi-dramatic when you first start taking it and then it tapers off as the body adjusts.
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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 12:38:09 pm »
The thing about caffeine is that its affects are usually semi-dramatic when you first start taking it and then it tapers off as the body adjusts.

Yarp. I just drink it for the taste and ritual of waking up. It's like a religion.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 02:57:27 pm »

Yarp. I just drink it for the taste and ritual of waking up. It's like a religion.

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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 11:22:59 am »
Update:

After cutting out coffee altogether, I found that the breast tingling stopped. I gave coffee a good break. Then I started drinking it again, and what do you know? The tingling/sensation has come back. It appears I have breast tissue which is sensitive to some effect created by the coffee. So now I plan to just drink coffee on the weekends.

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John R. Lee, M.D., author of "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You about Menopause," says that caffeine increases the production of estrogen in your body, which can lead to estrogen dominance. Estrogen dominance can be indicative of further complications. Women may experience menstrual issues, loss of libido, fibroids or endometriosis. Men are affected as well and can experience weight gain, male-pattern baldness, loss of libido, prostate issues and gynecomastia--which is breast development in men.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/86258-bad-effects-caffeine-body/#ixzz2S8PYGiNi
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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 01:50:20 pm »
Update:

After cutting out coffee altogether, I found that the breast tingling stopped. I gave coffee a good break. Then I started drinking it again, and what do you know? The tingling/sensation has come back. It appears I have breast tissue which is sensitive to some effect created by the coffee. So now I plan to just drink coffee on the weekends.

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Estrogen Dominance
John R. Lee, M.D., author of "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You about Menopause," says that caffeine increases the production of estrogen in your body, which can lead to estrogen dominance. Estrogen dominance can be indicative of further complications. Women may experience menstrual issues, loss of libido, fibroids or endometriosis. Men are affected as well and can experience weight gain, male-pattern baldness, loss of libido, prostate issues and gynecomastia--which is breast development in men.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/86258-bad-effects-caffeine-body/#ixzz2S8PYGiNi

Very interesting story.  So quick q:  are you a long time coffee drinker or did you just take it up a few weeks or months ago?
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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013, 01:02:25 pm »
I only started drinking coffee in August 2012. I only ever had instant coffee before that, but I grew to like the filtered coffee which I had access to in August last year, and from then, I have been drinking it everyday until the current difficulties. I actually feel better off coffee - less tiredness and fatigue. I still love coffee but plan to just drink it at weekends and if I want some during the week, it has to be decaf. But the evidence to me is clear: having started coffee in August and running into gyno problems earlier this year, stopping and starting twice and seeing the symptoms rise and subside, I am very confident it is the coffee. Of course there was the wintergreen scandal which may have precipitated coffee-gate.

Just to remind you and the other readers: I am 31, bi-lateral untreated varicoceles, on Imuran and Asacol for ulcerative colitis, and I take fish oil, magnesium, vitamin c, co-enzyme q10, calcium citrate, and Zinc everyday. That last battery of supplements is thanks to your advice Peak T and they are agreeing well with me.  :D


The thing about caffeine is that its affects are usually semi-dramatic when you first start taking it and then it tapers off as the body adjusts.

Definitely notice that. Really dramatic effects at first, but now, not much.
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Re: coffee + gynocomastia
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2013, 04:36:30 pm »
I only started drinking coffee in August 2012. I only ever had instant coffee before that, but I grew to like the filtered coffee which I had access to in August last year, and from then, I have been drinking it everyday until the current difficulties. I actually feel better off coffee - less tiredness and fatigue. I still love coffee but plan to just drink it at weekends and if I want some during the week, it has to be decaf. But the evidence to me is clear: having started coffee in August and running into gyno problems earlier this year, stopping and starting twice and seeing the symptoms rise and subside, I am very confident it is the coffee. Of course there was the wintergreen scandal which may have precipitated coffee-gate.

Just to remind you and the other readers: I am 31, bi-lateral untreated varicoceles, on Imuran and Asacol for ulcerative colitis, and I take fish oil, magnesium, vitamin c, co-enzyme q10, calcium citrate, and Zinc everyday. That last battery of supplements is thanks to your advice Peak T and they are agreeing well with me.  :D


The thing about caffeine is that its affects are usually semi-dramatic when you first start taking it and then it tapers off as the body adjusts.

Definitely notice that. Really dramatic effects at first, but now, not much.

Just a few comments:

--Glad things are going better?  So is the colitis itself doing better and, if so, what was your secret?  The medications?

--Decaff coffee is okay, but it has been shown to increase LDL a little for reasons I'm not sure they totally understand.  I drink it but not very often because of that...

--Can you post about the supplements on a separate thread if you have time?  How they've helped and why you're taking them, etc.?  I have a few (imo) important comments about them
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2013, 05:19:30 pm »
Yeah I noticed less fatigue and waking up easier since I quit caffeine. I was drinking like 3-5 (8 ounce) cups a day or maybe some energy drinks.
After doing that for about 6 months I got into a spot where I wasn't getting enough sleep on Sundays and started drinking coffee again to wake up. So now I just drink one 12 ounce cup in the morning, but it's really good Italian coffee called Lavazza. It's almost up there with the kind of espresso you can get at a coffee shop although I just put it through a dripomatic coffee maker.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2013, 06:08:27 pm »
Yeah I noticed less fatigue and waking up easier since I quit caffeine. I was drinking like 3-5 (8 ounce) cups a day or maybe some energy drinks.
After doing that for about 6 months I got into a spot where I wasn't getting enough sleep on Sundays and started drinking coffee again to wake up. So now I just drink one 12 ounce cup in the morning, but it's really good Italian coffee called Lavazza. It's almost up there with the kind of espresso you can get at a coffee shop although I just put it through a dripomatic coffee maker.

Lavazza.  I'll have to try it!
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