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Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« on: February 09, 2018, 03:50:17 pm »
Hello all, I have good prolactin but it's hard to ejeculate, even after 30min hard to ejeculate and have low libido, what can cause this? My testosterone at max normal, SHBG very low 14, E2 at middle norms

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 04:51:41 pm »
I'm sure there are many possibilities, but a couple others that come to mind are: too much serotonin, either the absolute amount, or relative to dopamine; and free estradiol that's too high. For the former you can make sure you're not taking too much of anything serotonergic, e.g. l-tryptophan, and look at some dopamine-boosting supplements. There have been a couple recent threads touching on how guys with low SHBG might have problems with estradiol management. While lower SHBG speeds up metabolism and excretion of testosterone, it does less of this for estradiol, so you could end up with free estradiol that's too high or too high relative to free testosterone, or both. The test for free estradiol is expensive and rarely used, so it's unclear if it would be useful. Experimentation might be the more practical route.
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 05:08:17 pm »
Than you for the answer, if I have high free E2, I should decrease total E2? What supplements can increase my dopamine? One time I was try rhodiola and it help a little bit, but not for long. How to decrease serotonin?

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 05:36:35 pm »
The hard part is knowing if your E2 is too high for you. As many guys have discovered, it's very easy to push E2 too low when playing with aromatase inhibitors. So I don't have an answer for you. You could experiment with something tamer like DIM or I3C, which might give a hint as to whether you're going in the right direction. This article discusses ways to reduce serotonin. Supplements to boost dopamine include tyrosine, macuna pruriens and extract of wild green oats (e.g. Dopa-Mind).
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
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Protocol: 3.2 mg TE subQ qd, 2.4 mg TP subQ qd, 20 mcg GnRH subQ 5.25x/d, 6.25 mg DHEA bid, 12.5 mg enclomiphene qod
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2018, 09:20:04 pm »
Hello all, I have good prolactin but it's hard to ejeculate, even after 30min hard to ejeculate and have low libido, what can cause this? My testosterone at max normal, SHBG very low 14, E2 at middle norms


As Cat has said its hard to pin point causes for this, I went thru a bad patch with the same problem about 2 years ago, very frustrating. What has worked for me is getting T levels to a relatively high point but due to individual variation what worked for me may not work for you. My only advice is experiment with T levels and supplements and hope to find the right spot.
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2014 Androderm Patches
2014-2016 Oral Andriol 160mg Daily
June 2016 Clomid/Serophene 12.5mg EOD
September 2016 no TRT all natural and supplements for the time being
February 2017 Testosterone cream 100mg daily

Sept 2016
Testosterone   8.2 nmol/l   9-38
Free Testosterone   239 pmol/l   L   250-800
SHBG:  14    nmol/L   9-60
Free Androgen index   586   >400
Oestradiol    112   pmol/L    <190
LH    2.6 IU/L Adult male   2 - 9 IU/L
FSH  1.4 IU/L Adult male L2 - 12 IU/L

22 November
T 6.8  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) L

March 2017
Testosterone:   45.0  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) H ( 1,323 ng/dl )
Free Testosterone:   1512  pmol/L ( 250-800 ) H
SHBG:   17  nmol/L ( 9-60 )
Plasma IGF-1:   227 ug/L ( 55-198 ) H
Plasma cortisol:   434 nmol/L ( 0600-1000 hrs 170-500 nmol/L )
HbA1c:   36 mmol/mol ( 20-40 )
LH:   <0.1 IU/L
FSH:   0.1 IU/L
DHT Plasma Dihydrotestosterone:   7455   pmol/L ( 223 ng/dl ) 
Reference Range Adult males  1000-6000 pmol/L

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2018, 12:26:12 am »
Hello all, I have good prolactin but it's hard to ejeculate, even after 30min hard to ejeculate and have low libido, what can cause this? My testosterone at max normal, SHBG very low 14, E2 at middle norms
How old are you?  it is possible that you are expecting too much from your body.  Even as a teenager I needed at least an hour in between orgasms.  I can't recall ever seeing what normal refractory periods for each age group is.  You have pretty high expectations.  Note, I am not critiquing, you are free to want what you want. 
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2018, 01:55:16 am »
Hello all, I have good prolactin but it's hard to ejeculate, even after 30min hard to ejeculate and have low libido, what can cause this? My testosterone at max normal, SHBG very low 14, E2 at middle norms
How old are you?  it is possible that you are expecting too much from your body.  Even as a teenager I needed at least an hour in between orgasms.  I can't recall ever seeing what normal refractory periods for each age group is.  You have pretty high expectations.  Note, I am not critiquing, you are free to want what you want.

I don't think he is talking about time between two orgasms but simply delayed orgasm and low libido. The symptoms you get by taking SSRI's
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Dec 2017 Low dose TRT (25 mg twice a week)
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2018, 05:05:00 am »
Yes, I just have low libido, not easy to ejeculate. I was think maybe it's dopamine related, but my prolactin is in normal range, so I don't think so. I think I need something to boost my adrenals.

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2018, 04:46:14 pm »
Hello all, I have good prolactin but it's hard to ejeculate, even after 30min hard to ejeculate and have low libido, what can cause this? My testosterone at max normal, SHBG very low 14, E2 at middle norms
How old are you?  it is possible that you are expecting too much from your body.  Even as a teenager I needed at least an hour in between orgasms.  I can't recall ever seeing what normal refractory periods for each age group is.  You have pretty high expectations.  Note, I am not critiquing, you are free to want what you want.

I'm 26 years old

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2018, 06:26:44 am »
My prolactin from 427.8 drop to 29mIU/L but I don't feel I'm high dopamine now and still need dopamine increaser before sexual activity. I have tried the main sources of dopamine that L-Phenylalanine, L-Tyrosine and Mucuna Pruriens(L-dopa). The most effective for me is L-Phenylalanine and I can feel my brain very excited every time.

What is your cortisol? Cortisol related to adrenal and dopamine.
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2018, 03:46:35 am »
Yes, I just have low libido, not easy to ejeculate. I was think maybe it's dopamine related, but my prolactin is in normal range, so I don't think so. I think I need something to boost my adrenals.
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What was your actual testosterone number (with the lab range as well)?   your symptoms are those of low testosterone.  Also similar to post finasteride syndrome.  Did you take any finasteride products?
Age: 55, Ht: 5'08", Wt: 155 lbs
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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2018, 06:55:49 am »
My prolactin from 427.8 drop to 29mIU/L but I don't feel I'm high dopamine now and still need dopamine increaser before sexual activity. I have tried the main sources of dopamine that L-Phenylalanine, L-Tyrosine and Mucuna Pruriens(L-dopa). The most effective for me is L-Phenylalanine and I can feel my brain very excited every time.

What is your cortisol? Cortisol related to adrenal and dopamine.

My cortisol 420 (Norms 160 - 510)


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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2018, 06:57:46 am »
Yes, I just have low libido, not easy to ejeculate. I was think maybe it's dopamine related, but my prolactin is in normal range, so I don't think so. I think I need something to boost my adrenals.
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What was your actual testosterone number (with the lab range as well)?   your symptoms are those of low testosterone.  Also similar to post finasteride syndrome.  Did you take any finasteride products?

I was take saw palmetto, never try finasteride. My testosterone 1000 ~ 1200ng/dl

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2018, 06:59:24 am »
After HCG injection it seems like my libido increases and I can ejeculate easer, maybe it's relate to low pregnenolone? Should I add this?

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2018, 07:18:56 pm »
After HCG injection it seems like my libido increases and I can ejeculate easer, maybe it's relate to low pregnenolone? Should I add this?

Are you deficient in pregnenolone? If so maybe, if not then no.

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Re: Good prolactin but hard to ejeculate and low libido??
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