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Re: random question
« Reply #405 on: March 22, 2013, 09:07:58 pm »
It excels in certain nutrients where plants do not (zinc, creatine, choline, etc.).    This is why the CR (Caloric Restriction) folks eat some meat so that they can get their RDA's in all categories.
chicken and beef?
or just beef?
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« Reply #406 on: March 23, 2013, 05:32:38 am »
It excels in certain nutrients where plants do not (zinc, creatine, choline, etc.).    This is why the CR (Caloric Restriction) folks eat some meat so that they can get their RDA's in all categories.
chicken and beef?
or just beef?

Don't remember.  That was many moons ago.  Roy Wolford, though, built some nutritional software that allowed the user to easily compute his RDA's.  This was decades ago and, of course, there are many more now.  But the clear goal of the CR folks was to make sure they had adequate nutrition through natural means and then let CR do its (supposed) life extending work.
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« Reply #407 on: March 23, 2013, 03:29:49 pm »

Don't remember.  That was many moons ago.  Roy Wolford, though, built some nutritional software that allowed the user to easily compute his RDA's.  This was decades ago and, of course, there are many more now.  But the clear goal of the CR folks was to make sure they had adequate nutrition through natural means and then let CR do its (supposed) life extending work.
CR is based on the free-radical theory of aging, right?
fewer calories in, means less metabolic work by the body, so it produces less "pollution"(free radicals) that will oxidize tissue organs in the body causing damage etc.


Quality of life and quantity of life are not synonymous. Go read some of the caloric restriction stuff and look at the CR folks. Frail, cold all the time, no energy. Even if they live a few years longer, what sort of life is that?
The problem is for CR to work, you gotta start at a  young age.

but to live a healthy life, you dont need to have such drastic caloric restriction.  dont get fat, dont go nuts with carbs(if you do, dont let it become a problem(ie let you get fat) so monitor yourself monthly, etc.  so  you have a pair of pants, etc that if you cant fit into you know its time to diet, etc

if you eat meat cause you need nutritional stuff found in meat, go eat it,  but keep your BMI in check, thats the key
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Re: random question
« Reply #408 on: March 23, 2013, 05:32:05 pm »

CR is based on the free-radical theory of aging, right?
fewer calories in, means less metabolic work by the body, so it produces less "pollution"(free radicals) that will oxidize tissue organs in the body causing damage etc.

Quality of life and quantity of life are not synonymous. Go read some of the caloric restriction stuff and look at the CR folks. Frail, cold all the time, no energy. Even if they live a few years longer, what sort of life is that?
Couldn't agree more.  I actually started down this road many moons ago and realized I couldn't take looking skeletal and backed out. 

The problem is for CR to work, you gotta start at a  young age.
Well, they had some mouse studies that showed you could start in middle age and still get extension.  But they haven't figured out how to make it work in primates yet, so it's kind of a moot point.
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« Reply #409 on: March 23, 2013, 05:59:19 pm »
Well, they had some mouse studies that showed you could start in middle age and still get extension.  But they haven't figured out how to make it work in primates yet, so it's kind of a moot point.
?
I dont recall saying the idea never worked, even in middle age, just the the "extension" was so small, to be of relevance, you had to start at a young age
compound interest works, but different results if you start at 2yo vs 70yrs old

The best bet is to perserve the quality of life you have and make the health/quality of your life as high as you can, which this site lays out what to follow pretty well.
 
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« Reply #410 on: March 23, 2013, 07:07:12 pm »
Well, they had some mouse studies that showed you could start in middle age and still get extension.  But they haven't figured out how to make it work in primates yet, so it's kind of a moot point.
?
I dont recall saying the idea never worked, even in middle age, just the the "extension" was so small, to be of relevance, you had to start at a young age
compound interest works, but different results if you start at 2yo vs 70yrs old

The best bet is to perserve the quality of life you have and make the health/quality of your life as high as you can, which this site lays out what to follow pretty well.
Agreed.  That's the state of science right now.  I think it will all be different in fifty years, but that's about the best we can do for now...
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« Reply #411 on: March 28, 2013, 04:09:37 am »
Im working nights, getting 4-5 hours of sleep after I get home, being awake for the day, then  4-5 hours before I work again
Will this affect my T-levels?
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« Reply #412 on: March 28, 2013, 05:06:56 am »
Im working nights, getting 4-5 hours of sleep after I get home, being awake for the day, then  4-5 hours before I work again
Will this affect my T-levels?

Whoa!  Well, I don't remember seeing a study on this pattern, so you'd probably have to test this in yourself, which is what really counts anyway.  But, as I think you know, some studies show shift work does affect testosterone levels.  Not all though...
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« Reply #413 on: April 05, 2013, 04:29:50 am »

I just got bored and watched Knives over Forks.....I dont eat anything other than eggwhites that are from animals....I dont worry about myself and cancer., bu I worry about my parents, now both 65

in tbe movie,. Dr Esselstyn  says how he learned the info to write his book...via the China Study and research

but NO animal protein?
so I need to stop eating eggwhites..
he goes into 2 parts about protein
1 how without it, you will die...you don't need carbs(sugar) or fat as much as you must have protein
2 he showed a graph that showed how much animal protein was consumed in a country and then a graph next to it of cancer in that country
the graphs were all about identical, cept the cancer graph was 20% taller

I found this high yield facts about the diet and the biggest concern I have is EGGWHITEs? no eggwhites....I'd better start eating rice protein and get my protein elsewhere....dang it??

The Esselstyn Rules:

    No meat, no poultry, no fish--not even salmon
    No dairy of any kind--not even skim milk or non-fat yogurt.
   No eggs--not even egg whites or Egg Beaters
    No oil--not even virgin olive oil or canola oil
    Aim for 100% Whole Grain products. Ingredients must say, Whole Wheat, or Whole Buckwheat, Whole Rye,etc. 100% stone-ground wheat is not Whole Wheat unless the word Whole appears.  Forget about semolina flour in pasta.  Forget about white rice.  I thought my Barilla Plus multigrain pasta was fantastic--turns out, semolina is the number one ingredient.
    Do not drink juice. Fruit is fine.  A little juice used to saute, or season recipes or for salad dressings is fine
    Do not eat nuts, even walnuts, unless you do not have heart disease.
    Do not eat avocados, if you have heart disease.
    Do not eat coconut, if you have heart disease.
    Eat soy products cautiously.  They are high in fat (40% +) and many are highly processed.  Only use Lite Tofu (like Mori-Nu or NaSoya Lite Firm Tofu).  I also use Soy Boy Organic 5 Grain Low Fat Tempeh.
    Reduce sugar as much as possible.  When you do use it for recipes, stick to the more unprocessed varieties.  But don't fool yourself, maple syrup, agave, and ho

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Re: random question
« Reply #414 on: April 08, 2013, 10:44:31 am »
I think this is one of the best pages!
Jack LaLanne and Fitness
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Jack_LaLanne_Fitness

I have asked about fasting a few times

I agree with that...I'm not sure about results to expect....I wish I knew more about this topic,
and I learn that Jack ate only twice a day....then I will do the same thing.  I know he says NO SUGAR, but  I get sugar in my POM/cranberry juice, I suppose that's ok though.  as I do it before I workout/walk on treadmill/something active

I do have a question about
) Heavy Fruit and Vegetable (Raw) Consumption. "And I have at least 5 or 6 pieces of fresh fruit everyday and 10 raw vegetables." [1]
what fruit? what veggies?

and why no coffee?
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« Reply #415 on: April 08, 2013, 02:56:55 pm »
I think this is one of the best pages!
Jack LaLanne and Fitness
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Jack_LaLanne_Fitness

I have asked about fasting a few times

and I learn that Jack ate only twice a day....then I will do the same thing.  I know he says NO SUGAR, but  I get sugar in my POM/cranberry juice, I suppose that's ok though.  as I do it before I workout/walk on treadmill/something active

I do have a question about
) Heavy Fruit and Vegetable (Raw) Consumption. "And I have at least 5 or 6 pieces of fresh fruit everyday and 10 raw vegetables." [1]
what fruit? what veggies?

and why no coffee?

Yes, no added sugar of any kind.  This was his #1 most hated food.  Read the story of his "conversion" at a Paul Bragg meeting and you'll see why.

I don't think he had a formula for which fruits and vegetables to consume.  His philosophy was basically to be all natural, so just eat nature's food.  He considered cows to be "unnatural" and ate/drank nothing from one.

As far as coffee, I don't know for sure, but I believe he considered it a crutch and only necessary for those with low energy levels due to poor lifestyle.
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« Reply #416 on: April 09, 2013, 02:21:37 am »
I think this is one of the best pages!
Jack LaLanne and Fitness
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Jack_LaLanne_Fitness

I do have a question about
) Heavy Fruit and Vegetable (Raw) Consumption. "And I have at least 5 or 6 pieces of fresh fruit everyday and 10 raw vegetables." [1]
what fruit? what veggies?



I can't find what Jack ate in terms of fruits/veggies, but I found the answer in what I was reading:
Health and nutrition secrets
by Dr. Blaylock, MD

http://www.amazon.com/Health-Nutrition-Secrets-Russell-Blaylock/dp/0929173481

where he says to eat
fruits
currants(red/black)
oranges and tangerines
macintosh apples
blueberries
blackberries
raspberries
strawberries
cranberrries
grapes(flouride free only)
sweet-sour-cherries
pinapple

Veggies
kale
broccolli
brussels sprouts
tomatoes
califlower
cabbbage(purple/red)
cilantro
beets
rhubarb
spinach

saying also that you should try to balance what you eat in terms of inflammatory response
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2356/2
this site gives a rating of inflamation to food, try to get the number to be 0  or positive, which means anti-inflammatory

when I have time,I'll summarize the book as this person did with Excitotoxins – The Taste That Kills(attached)
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« Reply #417 on: April 09, 2013, 04:57:23 am »
So you're saying Blaylock recommends trying to eat non-inflammatory fruits and veges?
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Re: random question
« Reply #418 on: April 09, 2013, 06:53:06 am »
how do I get rid of the fluoride in my body
or can I?
http://www.naturalnews.com/026605_fluoride_fluorides_detox.html
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« Reply #419 on: April 09, 2013, 02:41:02 pm »
how do I get rid of the fluoride in my body
or can I?
http://www.naturalnews.com/026605_fluoride_fluorides_detox.html

Now that I don't know.  Let us know if you find something out...
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