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Blade78

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random question
« on: March 11, 2012, 07:35:49 am »

I think I need testostrone supplementation

Test. resultsy
329
normal is 240-950

Free test is 12(normal)
normal is 9-30
thoughts?

I have a big standardized test coming up in 2 weeks, I've been stressed
I'm  36% fat, usually, 15-18%
high cholesterol, 248
 high HDL 48
TSH 2.7
Triglyceride 189

this is the most out of shape I've ever been in

I'm dieting and getting back to the weights(yes, more than 15% caloric restriction on some days). and lots of cardio, some DNP and a high protein diet/low carb--mostly egg white, beets,  2lbs broccilli.day(raw) 3 apples, EFAs,  Arginine Plus, niacin(500mg-1gram), 5-10IU vit D(for a month to get my level to about 40)

by July 4th, I'll be down to 170ish

then I'll  get retested


Any comments about what I said above, as in, anything that looks horribly wrong?

Will masturbation cause plaques to form in my  arteries the cause erections?

I know if I dont masturbate, I'll increase my testosterone  level 145% at least once/week, or till I fap again.

I read this in
(A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men/
ISSN 1009 - 3095 Journal of Zhejiang Universi~, SCIENCE V .4, No .2, P .236 - 240, Mar. - Apr., 2003
which says:
-On the 7th day of abstinence, however, aclear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7 % of the baseline ( P < 0.01 )
--I might be reading the study wrong though

so maybe I just need to limit masturbation to just once/week...I havent been with a girl for 2 months now, and I'm unhappy with how I have let myself go, I need to get back to giving a shit about myself.
My errocktions arent that solid, most of the time, I do get morning wood, cept the last 2 weeks(the blood test was from December 2011)

goal
Learn how to limit and reverse any damage to my heart/penis while I get back into shape and change my diet.
I think I should add:
1 drink Pomegranate Juice
2 drink Tart Cherry Juice.
3. take 2. CoQ10.
4, take Turmeric / Curcumin.
5. Green Tea / EGCG.  EGCG

Any other insights would be appreciated


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Re: random question
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 07:41:31 am »
I also take 500mg vit C
1000mg garlic
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 12:58:43 pm »
Congrats on making all the great changes.  You know what I'm going to say:  you've got to get those lipid #s back in shape.  If you've had those #s for a long time, your endothelium has probably been getting hammered.  And throw in your low testosterone, which raises insulin, and you've probably got a mess.

The good news is that you're dropping weight, which lowers inflammation, and will give your endothelium a break.  And, of course, the exercise will really help with the same and decrease any insulin resistance.

Gotta run - have a couple more comments later.  Again, though, congrats on caring for yourself.  There isn't anyone else that's gonna do it, eh?
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Re: random question
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2012, 09:38:28 pm »
Also, I've never thought the abstinence route was a good way to raise testosterone.  There's not really enough research to prove anything, but here is my take on it:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Ejaculation.aspx
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Re: random question
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2012, 09:54:30 pm »
I think you might want to add something about how a man who  has 3+ ejaculations per week has reduced chance of prostate cancer, ..or whatever the studies say

I've  been able to accomplish this 7 day feat once, I was away from the GF for 9 days and when I saw her again....the pain was worth it

sex increases test levels, so dont forgo sex to do this crap

that's all I have, I really like this site, but is there a more condensed version of what to do to increase test/keep arteries healthy?
I'm still unsure about vitamin C, should I take big doses of it? or not?
also about vitamin E? I thought men who took it had a higher chance of prostate cancer later in life?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21990298.1
CONCLUSION:

Dietary supplementation with vitamin E significantly increased the risk of prostate cancer among healthy men.
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Re: random question
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 07:19:05 am »
I think you might want to add something about how a man who  has 3+ ejaculations per week has reduced chance of prostate cancer, ..or whatever the studies say

I've  been able to accomplish this 7 day feat once, I was away from the GF for 9 days and when I saw her again....the pain was worth it

sex increases test levels, so dont forgo sex to do this crap

that's all I have, I really like this site, but is there a more condensed version of what to do to increase test/keep arteries healthy?
I'm still unsure about vitamin C, should I take big doses of it? or not?
also about vitamin E? I thought men who took it had a higher chance of prostate cancer later in life?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21990298.1
CONCLUSION:

Dietary supplementation with vitamin E significantly increased the risk of prostate cancer among healthy men.

Great comments.  You bring up a good point about some kind of a condensed summary of what to do.  The site has really grown over the years and it is probably a bit unwieldy in parts.  Let me think about that one...

Vitamin C is a huge subject.  I have somewhat changed position recently.  My take on megadosing Vitamin C is that the studies are 98% positive and a few negative.  I initially jumped on the 2% that were negative but looking back on that, I think it was a mistake and plan to modify some of my posts accordingly.  In the meantime I take 1.5-2.0 grams/day.  This is a huge subject, though, and I hope to post some on it soon.

My take on Vitamin E is that is probably good for the brain but hard on several other systems in the body.  The reason is that, as you probably know, most Vitamin E's are alpha tocopherol which lowers levels of other critical tocopherols.  In other words, most Vitamin E's, especially in the studies, are unnatural.

Will mixed tocopherol Vitamin E's do better in the studies.  Well, the jury is still out on that and I don't think anyone will redo the studies any time soon.  My opinion is that, if you are following a Low Fat Diet to clean out your arteries, then don't worry about it.  If you want to supplement with a little Vitamin E, then just eat a few nuts or seeds.  Many of those boost your nitric oxide levels anyway.
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Re: random question
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 07:41:03 am »
Seed wise, I like almonds, I get my EFAs elsewhere(spring Valley, Norwegian cod liver oil)
I eat at most 2 cups steamed broccoli/day, I used to take a supplement of Diindolylmethane, or DIM, .I dont think it's better than eatin raw brocoli, but can it do harm?  Whats the consensus
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Re: random question
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 09:20:08 am »
Depending on the supplement, there's just a lot more DIM than you'd get in broccoli.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2012, 08:07:07 pm »
I eat about 2lbs or so a day of broccolli, I  use to take a DIM supp.  I never had a blood test to see if it did anything more than a placebo effect.
Can someone point me to any, ANY study that indicates this "stuff" does anything to positively effect testosterone/estrogen in human males when taken orally? I see nothing that supports that on pubmed.
http://www.jbc.org/content/278/23/21136.long 
That doesn't seem to indicate that, unless I'm misinterpreting it.
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Re: random question
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2012, 09:13:16 pm »
Watchn:  See the link below, especially references 12 and 24:

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/articles/contrarian-endocrinology-revisited-estrogen-for-men/

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Re: random question
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2012, 10:57:00 pm »
Thanks, Peak

I am looking to find some DIM to take along with eating my broccoli and soon, kale....
this spot looked good, but really pricey
http://www.activamune.com/purchase.htm

what would you use as a source for supplemental DIM?
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 11:02:42 pm »
I think I used these company before,  it's about half price
http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=274640&catid=183316&aid=338666&aparam=274640

any thoughts on where to get DIM from?
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 07:21:43 am »
Don't know those brands.  Source Natural has a DIM product on Amazon.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 12:19:17 pm »
Source Natural
has other stuff along with  the DIM, most notably, vit E
Im trying to stay away from taking extra vitamin E
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 03:44:58 pm »
Okay.  Well, 50 IU isn't too bad is pretty low.  http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1677/

The increase in prostate cancer from Vit E was actually "statistically insignificant" but still makes me a little nervous:

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/306/14/1549

And not only was it statistically nonsignificant (about 17%) but it also was only (I'm pretty sure) for the 400IU cohort, which is significantly more than you are taking:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-cooper/vitamine-e-prostate-cancer-_b_1016922.html (This is a good article btw.)

It's kind of int'g that they put that small of an amount in - I think they know about some of the above research.

The Bioperine is standard with Life Extension and some other supplement mfgs as it improves absorbption.  Phosphatidylcholine makes me a little nervous as it has been found in colon cancer, but I haven't been able to find out much about it, i.e. if it's really an issue.

I'll try to find something later if I can.  And if you find a good one, let us know as well...
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Re: random question
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