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nkaufman

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Supplementing TRT with Cialis
« on: December 20, 2018, 04:13:17 am »
Hello,
Have been going over some posts that talk about supplementing TRT (I'm currently getting gel treatment) with low dose Cialis.

Looking to take 2.5 mg 3 days a week to begin with.
Any ideas/comments on this dosage?


I apply gel in the morning after taking a shower. Should I take Cialis at that time or in the afternoon when T-levels are low, to give a boost.
What have people tried and what seemed to have worked?

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Total Testosterone (250-1100) ==> 237 --- 429 --- 477
Free Testosterone (35-155)  ==>  32.7 --- 58.8 --- 73.5
Free T4   ( 0.8-1.8 )  ==>  1.2 --- 1.1 --- 1.3
Free T3   (2.3-4.2)  ==>  3.0 --- 2.7 --- 3.3    
T3 Total (72-180)  ==>  133.0 ---
T3 Reverse (8-25)  ==>  14 --- 15 --- 17   

TSH (0.4-4.5)  ==>  1.9 --- 2.12 --- 0.07
SHBG (10.0-50.0)  ==>  29.0 ---
LH (1.5-9.3)  ==>  4.3 --- 4.2 --- 2.0
Prolactin (2.0-18.0)  ==>  5.1 --- 4.6 ---
FSH (1.6-8.0)  ==>  12.5 --- 13.8 --- 9.2
Estrogen Total (60-190)  ==>   *** --- 90 --- 233.4
Hematocrit (38.5-50)  ==>   *** --- *** --- 44.9

Estradiol-UltraSensitive (< 29)  ==>  8.0 --- 14 --- 22
Estradiol-Regular (< 39)  ==>  16 --- 24 ---
Progesterone (< 0.2)  ==>  < 0.1 ---      
Cortisol total (4.0-22.0)  ==>  8.5 --- *** --- 9.0
DHEA Sulfate (38-313)  ==>  203.0 --- 250 --- 183
PSA (< 4.0)  ==>  0.4 ---

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Re: Supplementing TRT with Cialis
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 08:01:18 am »
I take 2.5mg Cialis right before bed, along with some other NO boosting supplements.  I am not sure it really matters what time of day you take it.  I have found that going on TRT several years ago PDE5 inhibitors like Cialis are a lot more effective and I can use them in small amounts. 
Age 51, 5'10, 155 lbs
Cholesterol 162 (HDL 59, LDL 87, Trigs 88, LDL-P 850)
Fasting Glucose 65 (down from 97 pre TRT)
A1C:  5.0 (down from 5.7 per TRT)
Homocysteine:  12.4 > 11.0 > 10.2 > 8.9 using B vitamin therapy.  MTHFR positive 

BP  120/78 (using improved diet and 10 mg Lisinopril ACE Inhibitor)  145/90 prior to meds.

Current protocol:  60 mg Test Cyp IM every 5 days.  No AI.
2/15/17 labs:  Total T (peak day): 1169 (250 - 1100 ng/dl).  Free T 198 pg/ML (46-225).  Sensitive E2: 40 High.  Previously 32. PSA 0.2  Hemocrit 44.2. SHBG: 32
9/15/18 labs:  Total T (trough day):  598 (250 -1100 ng/dl)  Free T 73.9 (46-225) Sensitive E2: 21  Hemocrit 43.7  SHBG 34
2/20/19 labs:  Total T (mid point):  776 (250 -1100 ng/dl) Free T 115.6 (46 - 224 pg/ml) Sensitive E2 24 (<29), DHT 43 (16-79 ng), DHEA-s 244 (70-495 mcg/dl)


Supplements:  Multivitamin, plus additional B12, B6, C, D, K2, Red Yeast Rice, Magnesium, and Coq10  Evening:  Kyolic Garlic, 2mg Cialis, LEF Endothelial Protection

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Re: Supplementing TRT with Cialis
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Re: Supplementing TRT with Cialis
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 09:50:48 am »
I take it in the morning (liquid form) after breakfast.
Some guys like it pre-workout.
I'd give it at least a week's try either way.
Some pple complain initially of flushing or minor headache, etc.....
That all went away for me after the first week.
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Re: Supplementing TRT with Cialis
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 10:09:28 am »
I take 3mg compounded Cialis from Empower, but can only tolerate EOD dosing due to severe acid reflux. At this dose all is good.

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Re: Supplementing TRT with Cialis
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 10:09:28 am »


nkaufman

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Re: Supplementing TRT with Cialis
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2018, 02:44:06 am »
Thank you all for your input.

So I guess there is no harm in taking 2.5mg everyday, is there? Based on what I'd read, I was looking to start on Mon/Wed/Fri i.e. 3 days a week and then see.

Of course, in my case I have to cut the 20mg pill into smaller pieces, did get a pill-splitter :-)
Total Testosterone (250-1100) ==> 237 --- 429 --- 477
Free Testosterone (35-155)  ==>  32.7 --- 58.8 --- 73.5
Free T4   ( 0.8-1.8 )  ==>  1.2 --- 1.1 --- 1.3
Free T3   (2.3-4.2)  ==>  3.0 --- 2.7 --- 3.3    
T3 Total (72-180)  ==>  133.0 ---
T3 Reverse (8-25)  ==>  14 --- 15 --- 17   

TSH (0.4-4.5)  ==>  1.9 --- 2.12 --- 0.07
SHBG (10.0-50.0)  ==>  29.0 ---
LH (1.5-9.3)  ==>  4.3 --- 4.2 --- 2.0
Prolactin (2.0-18.0)  ==>  5.1 --- 4.6 ---
FSH (1.6-8.0)  ==>  12.5 --- 13.8 --- 9.2
Estrogen Total (60-190)  ==>   *** --- 90 --- 233.4
Hematocrit (38.5-50)  ==>   *** --- *** --- 44.9

Estradiol-UltraSensitive (< 29)  ==>  8.0 --- 14 --- 22
Estradiol-Regular (< 39)  ==>  16 --- 24 ---
Progesterone (< 0.2)  ==>  < 0.1 ---      
Cortisol total (4.0-22.0)  ==>  8.5 --- *** --- 9.0
DHEA Sulfate (38-313)  ==>  203.0 --- 250 --- 183
PSA (< 4.0)  ==>  0.4 ---

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Re: Supplementing TRT with Cialis
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2018, 02:44:06 am »