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electrify

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Mid 20s hair thinning and TRT
« on: December 31, 2018, 11:31:55 pm »
My hair has started thinning :(

I have no idea how but just randomly started this year. Ive been on TRT on/off for years now and mostly on so can it still be because of TRT?

Would it have happened anyways despte TRT?

What are things I should check? Obviously ive been here long enough that stuff like Sp and Fin are never options. Even minoxidil i wouldnt touch. I don’t want to mess with anything chemical that affects neurosteroids for the sake of hair. I would rather be single my entire life cause of hair loss than get suicidal depression from Fin.
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Re: Mid 20s hair thinning and TRT
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2019, 01:46:40 am »
My impression is that if you're genetically predisposed to androgenic alopecia then you're going to lose hair sooner or later. TRT may speed it up a little, but I think it's still inevitable unless you adopt the risky strategy of blocking or reducing androgens. I'd give you the usual platitudes about bald guys still attracting women, but it's a delusion to think it doesn't put men at a disadvantage.
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Re: Mid 20s hair thinning and TRT
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2019, 02:57:24 am »
My impression is that if you're genetically predisposed to androgenic alopecia then you're going to lose hair sooner or later. TRT may speed it up a little, but I think it's still inevitable unless you adopt the risky strategy of blocking or reducing androgens. I'd give you the usual platitudes about bald guys still attracting women, but it's a delusion to think it doesn't put men at a disadvantage.

Haha except my game even without that disadvantage sucks, so its probably a really bad thing for me. But I am smart enough to know women are not worth risking your neurosteroids.

Guess I probably still have some years where it will pass. I guess it unfortunately means I need to work even harder though ugh.

I have a trophy GF mindset I need to work on.

Probably at this point with my inevitable fate its even more important to build muscle and get some real game. Basically work on everything thats in my control :/. Im still a skinny guy and that probably turns some girls off and even more so if I ever go bald. 

The advice of “girls don’t care about muscle” is total sugarcoated BS imo. Although honestly I should be working out for myself and these issues that got me on TRT to begin with lol.
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Re: Mid 20s hair thinning and TRT
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2019, 12:56:57 pm »
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The advice of “girls don’t care about muscle” is total sugarcoated BS imo. ...

Along with the nonsense about beauty being only skin-deep. These preferences evolved over the millennia to give humans the best chance of selecting genetically-fit mates.
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Protocol: 3.2 mg TE subQ qd, 2.4 mg TP subQ qd, 20 mcg GnRH subQ 5.25x/d, 6.25 mg DHEA bid, 12.5 mg enclomiphene qod
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Re: Mid 20s hair thinning and TRT
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2019, 09:27:19 pm »
You say you are on TRT. But what is your protocol?

If a topical gel/cream, that can raise DHT which is bad for hair loss in men.

Just asking.
54 year old, 5’-7” and 174 lbs.
exercise: nine really. Cancer & surgery & covid restriction closed swimming
Pool :(

Blood tested 2/9/21

Total = 614  ng/dL (250-827) up from 520
Free T= 13.68 (5.6- 21.0) measured
Free T TruT calc 19.9

SHBG= 31.9 (11.2-78.1)

Bio-avail= 321 (110-575)

Estradiol = <10 (11-44) male range
Estrone not measured

DHES = not measured
DHEA = not measured

Currently on 50mcg Synthroid (T4)
TSH = 0.937
Free T4 = 1.03 (0.78 - 2.19)= 17.7% of range
Free T3 = 3.73(2.77-5.27) = 38.4%  of range

Current protocol: 100mg DIM once per day. 

NOT on TRT.

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Re: Mid 20s hair thinning and TRT
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 01:11:15 am »
Perhaps someday stem cell therapy or gene editing will allow a bald man to regrow all the hair he has lost.

Whatever you do stay away from DHT blocking medications, I mean you wouldn't block testosterone.

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Re: Mid 20s hair thinning and TRT
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 07:56:34 pm »
You say you are on TRT. But what is your protocol?

If a topical gel/cream, that can raise DHT which is bad for hair loss in men.

Just asking.

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