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Applying Scrotal Cream
« on: January 10, 2019, 08:52:01 am »
Hi gang,

My cream is set to arrive tomorrow, thereby commencing my TRT protocol (I have not used T up to this point). My prescription is 1-2 clicks per day (.25 per click), and I will apply it to the scrotal region.

Have you applied cream to your scrotal area before? Anything I should know ahead of time about dispensing/applying the medication? Though there are (understandably) a lot of "how to inject yourself" videos out there, I haven't found many resources pertinent to scrotal cream application. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2019, 09:42:19 am »
I have done it, though can't think of much to say about the application except to let it dry a little before allowing clothing contact. Some guys use the applicator directly, others use fingers. I don't think it matters much. Hopefully you will have better luck with transdermal testosterone than I did.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 09:48:05 am »
I have done it, though can't think of much to say about the application except to let it dry a little before allowing clothing contact. Some guys use the applicator directly, others use fingers. I don't think it matters much. Hopefully you will have better luck with transdermal testosterone than I did.

Thanks! I am encouraged by some of the stories/research I've seen lately. Also, if I am applying multiple clicks (ex: 2 per day), does it matter if both are applied at the same time, or should they be spaced out (ex: 1 in morning, 1 at night)?
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 09:52:40 am »
.... Also, if I am applying multiple clicks (ex: 2 per day), does it matter if both are applied at the same time, or should they be spaced out (ex: 1 in morning, 1 at night)?

I'd start with the easier approach of all at once, early morning. Ideally this somewhat mimics a normal diurnal rhythm. But if you're not getting good results then you can try spacing them out.
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7-12/2018 test results: TT: 800 ng/dL, E2: 31 pg/mL LC/MS-MS, DHEA-S: 264 ug/dL (49-344)—SHBG ~30 nmol/L

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Re: Applying Scrotal Cream
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 09:58:21 am »
Ignorance here. But I will ask it anyway.

Does shaving help or aid absorption? 

I realize that absorption rates are significantly higher on scrotum versus other topical areas on compared to say shoulders. I have read anywhere between 5 and 10 times more absorption. So maybe shaving scrotum is insignificant gain compared to shaving othwr applocation sites a guy could use.
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Re: Applying Scrotal Cream
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 10:26:43 am »
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Does shaving help or aid absorption? 
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It could help, reducing waste. But it'd only be worthwhile if the "hairy boys" were really hairy. I did get good initial absorption of Androgel with shaved underarms. But within a couple days my usual absorption and conversion problems returned.
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Age: 57, Ht: 5'10", Wt: 158 lbs
Protocol: 18 mg T enanthate subQ qod, 250 IU hCG subQ qod, 70 mcg anastrozole qod, 6.25 mg DHEA orally bid
7-12/2018 test results: TT: 800 ng/dL, E2: 31 pg/mL LC/MS-MS, DHEA-S: 264 ug/dL (49-344)—SHBG ~30 nmol/L

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 01:02:30 pm »
Shaving is a really good idea as it makes application easy, quick and less messy.
Its very easy to overdo the amount of resultant T and DHT that you get from Scrotal application, you probably need more regular blood tests to see whats going on.
Age:57, Height 6' 3" weight 92.5KG
2014 Androderm Patches
2014-2016 Oral Andriol 160mg Daily
June 2016 Clomid/Serophene 12.5mg EOD
September 2016 no TRT all natural and supplements for the time being
February 2017 Testosterone cream 100mg daily

Sept 2016
Testosterone   8.2 nmol/l   9-38
Free Testosterone   239 pmol/l   L   250-800
SHBG:  14    nmol/L   9-60
Free Androgen index   586   >400
Oestradiol    112   pmol/L    <190
LH    2.6 IU/L Adult male   2 - 9 IU/L
FSH  1.4 IU/L Adult male L2 - 12 IU/L

22 November
T 6.8  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) L

March 2017
Testosterone:   45.0  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) H ( 1,323 ng/dl )
Free Testosterone:   1512  pmol/L ( 250-800 ) H
SHBG:   17  nmol/L ( 9-60 )
Plasma IGF-1:   227 ug/L ( 55-198 ) H
Plasma cortisol:   434 nmol/L ( 0600-1000 hrs 170-500 nmol/L )
HbA1c:   36 mmol/mol ( 20-40 )
LH:   <0.1 IU/L
FSH:   0.1 IU/L
DHT Plasma Dihydrotestosterone:   7455   pmol/L ( 223 ng/dl ) 

Reference Range Adult males  1000-6000 pmol/L

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Re: Applying Scrotal Cream
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2019, 01:42:36 pm »
Thanks, guys, for the input! I'll be doing some shaving.

Another question: is there a difference in dosing between injectables/creams? For example, I have 200mg T-cyp. My prescription is 1-2 clicks per day, or .25-.50 per day, working up to 4 clicks per day. How does this dosage compare to a normal injectable T dosage?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2019, 02:06:20 pm by bkb333 »
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Re: Applying Scrotal Cream
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2019, 03:48:56 pm »
Thanks, guys, for the input! I'll be doing some shaving.

Another question: is there a difference in dosing between injectables/creams? For example, I have 200mg T-cyp. My prescription is 1-2 clicks per day, or .25-.50 per day, working up to 4 clicks per day. How does this dosage compare to a normal injectable T dosage?
No one knows what your adsorbtion rate is. You will need to do lots of mini blood tests to get the cream dialed in. Nice thing about creams is you don't have to wait 40 days to do bloods.
I got to ask are you prone to acne?

I was a cream guy for over 6 months. I naired my balls shaving scared the hell out of me. My wife liked it so much I still nair even on T shots for 3 years.
If you are good with the nair you can even get your cock ring area oh hell your 27 you don't need a cockring.

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2019, 04:41:41 pm »
No one knows what your adsorbtion rate is. You will need to do lots of mini blood tests to get the cream dialed in. Nice thing about creams is you don't have to wait 40 days to do bloods.
I got to ask are you prone to acne?

I was a cream guy for over 6 months. I naired my balls shaving scared the hell out of me. My wife liked it so much I still nair even on T shots for 3 years.
If you are good with the nair you can even get your cock ring area oh hell your 27 you don't need a cockring.

Fortunately, I'm not prone to acne -- had a little bit in high school, but totally clear since. Did you use the cream on your balls? Why did you decide to switch to shots?
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2019, 06:25:20 pm »
... I naired my balls shaving scared the hell out of me. My wife liked it so much I still nair even on T shots for 3 years.
If you are good with the nair you can even get your cock ring area ...

Interesting. Any irritation? The manufacturer advises against this...

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Why can’t I use this on my head, face, nose, ears, nipples, perianal area or genital areas?

Depilatories are strongly alkaline and can be erosive in areas of mucous membranes and other sensitive parts of the body. Use of any depilatories in these sensitive areas, especially if left in contact for any length of time, can cause irritation.
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2019, 06:54:00 pm »
... I naired my balls shaving scared the hell out of me. My wife liked it so much I still nair even on T shots for 3 years.
If you are good with the nair you can even get your cock ring area ...

Interesting. Any irritation? The manufacturer advises against this...

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Why can’t I use this on my head, face, nose, ears, nipples, perianal area or genital areas?

Depilatories are strongly alkaline and can be erosive in areas of mucous membranes and other sensitive parts of the body. Use of any depilatories in these sensitive areas, especially if left in contact for any length of time, can cause irritation.
You will only take the hair off your nipples once with nair. ((( Ouch!))) I have no issues with my nutsack. Just keep it off the head of your penis that probably would not be good either, don't know for sure.

With practice you can get really good. Setting on the toilet is best so you boys are swinging. I like to keep the hair on my inner legs to prevent chaffing. I will treat 1/2-3/4" at the base of my penis for a cockring. Removal is now painless.  Found 6 minutes works the best on my hair you will have to experiment thick coarse hair takes more time.

Then jump right in the shower and use your normal body wash soap.  If you trim the hair on you inner thigh and your pubs just a little and sport the bald balls its a pretty nice look. Well at least my wife says so and the first time she popped one of my non hairy balls in her mouth I was sold.  Gaud, I'm glad my wife does not read this forum. haha
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2019, 08:23:15 pm »
... I naired my balls shaving scared the hell out of me. My wife liked it so much I still nair even on T shots for 3 years.
If you are good with the nair you can even get your cock ring area ...

Interesting. Any irritation? The manufacturer advises against this...

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Why can’t I use this on my head, face, nose, ears, nipples, perianal area or genital areas?

Depilatories are strongly alkaline and can be erosive in areas of mucous membranes and other sensitive parts of the body. Use of any depilatories in these sensitive areas, especially if left in contact for any length of time, can cause irritation.
You will only take the hair off your nipples once with nair. ((( Ouch!))) I have no issues with my nutsack. Just keep it off the head of your penis that probably would not be good either, don't know for sure.

With practice you can get really good. Setting on the toilet is best so you boys are swinging. I like to keep the hair on my inner legs to prevent chaffing. I will treat 1/2-3/4" at the base of my penis for a cockring. Removal is now painless.  Found 6 minutes works the best on my hair you will have to experiment thick coarse hair takes more time.

Then jump right in the shower and use your normal body wash soap.  If you trim the hair on you inner thigh and your pubs just a little and sport the bald balls its a pretty nice look. Well at least my wife says so and the first time she popped one of my non hairy balls in her mouth I was sold.  Gaud, I'm glad my wife does not read this forum. haha

I just used a Gillette standard 3 blade safety Razor, no problems at all. DONT use a foil or rotary Razor, that way leads to pain and blood loss :( dont ask how I know lol, same goes for a trimmer, even more blood loss, even the nasal or eyebrow trimming types will leave you scared.
Age:57, Height 6' 3" weight 92.5KG
2014 Androderm Patches
2014-2016 Oral Andriol 160mg Daily
June 2016 Clomid/Serophene 12.5mg EOD
September 2016 no TRT all natural and supplements for the time being
February 2017 Testosterone cream 100mg daily

Sept 2016
Testosterone   8.2 nmol/l   9-38
Free Testosterone   239 pmol/l   L   250-800
SHBG:  14    nmol/L   9-60
Free Androgen index   586   >400
Oestradiol    112   pmol/L    <190
LH    2.6 IU/L Adult male   2 - 9 IU/L
FSH  1.4 IU/L Adult male L2 - 12 IU/L

22 November
T 6.8  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) L

March 2017
Testosterone:   45.0  nmol/L ( 9-38 ) H ( 1,323 ng/dl )
Free Testosterone:   1512  pmol/L ( 250-800 ) H
SHBG:   17  nmol/L ( 9-60 )
Plasma IGF-1:   227 ug/L ( 55-198 ) H
Plasma cortisol:   434 nmol/L ( 0600-1000 hrs 170-500 nmol/L )
HbA1c:   36 mmol/mol ( 20-40 )
LH:   <0.1 IU/L
FSH:   0.1 IU/L
DHT Plasma Dihydrotestosterone:   7455   pmol/L ( 223 ng/dl ) 

Reference Range Adult males  1000-6000 pmol/L

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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2019, 05:23:29 pm »
Thanks, guys, for the input! I'll be doing some shaving.

Another question: is there a difference in dosing between injectables/creams? For example, I have 200mg T-cyp. My prescription is 1-2 clicks per day, or .25-.50 per day, working up to 4 clicks per day. How does this dosage compare to a normal injectable T dosage?

Hi all, just wanted to revive this question to see if anyone can help. For example, if I were prescribed .15 of 200 mg/mil via injections, how many clicks would this translate to? Thank you!
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2019, 07:20:38 pm »
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Hi all, just wanted to revive this question to see if anyone can help. For example, if I were prescribed .15 of 200 mg/mil via injections, how many clicks would this translate to? Thank you!

"HRD LVN" did answer above, noting that the absorption rate varies. It varies not just from person to person, but can change without warning for anyone. If you want a very rough idea: through normal skin the estimate is 10% absorption. Absorption through scrotal skin is considerably higher, possibly up to around 60%. In contrast, injections give you 100% of the testosterone that's attached to the ester.

In your example, 30 mg of T cypionate means that 21 mg of testosterone is injected (T cyp is 70% T). To get the same dose via topical testosterone at 60% absorption efficiency would mean that 35 mg of T  (21 / 0.6) must be applied to the skin. This would be spread out over the same number of days as were between the injections. If your cream is 200 mg/mL then it's about three quarters of a click.

If absorption efficiency is only 10% then 210 mg T must be applied, spread out over the number of inter-injection days. This is a little over four clicks at 50 mg/click.
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