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andreflex7

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LH/FSH levels
« on: April 24, 2019, 07:27:11 am »
I have bee on TRT for over a year now. I take 200mg 2x week, sub q in the love handles.

Without having bloodwork done, what are chances that my LH & FSH are 0 or close to it? My biggest concern is FSH. My wife is wanting to have more kids & I don't want to right now. I am not going to sneak off and have a vascetomy, so it would be nice if the FSH levels were 0.
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Re: LH/FSH levels
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2019, 07:52:17 am »
My guess is a 90+% chance of pretty negligible LH/FSH. Even that's not a total guarantee, however. Just have a fertility test to be sure. Seems like I read somewhere that there's even a way to test at home.
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Re: LH/FSH levels
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2019, 10:09:16 am »
This response is off medical topic. But I felt compelled to at least out it out there.

I think that you owe it to yourself and your wife to have the long hard discussion about having kids...or not.

Not trying to be preachy here but something that big must be dealt with. Or long term things can really explode. If your wife thinks you guys are trying while you are somewhat intentionally and knowingly keeping your fertility downgraded or shut down completely, I would suspect your wife WHEN she finds this out will feel betrayed and extremely hurt and probably resentful. Not to mention angry. Seems to me the hard discussion will have to take place sooner or later. And if later after she finds out you knew that fertility was at best questionable will make that later discussion MUCH more emotional and difficult.

you are free to decide what you think is best.

Just my 2 cents if it is even worth that.
52 year old, 5’-7” and 165 lbs.
exercise:swim 3x/wk & marrial arts 2x/wk

Blood tested 9/19/18

Total = 580 ng/dL (250-827) 59.9%
Free T= 6.87 (4.6- 22.4) 12.8% (10.8 calc)

SHBG= 39 10.0-50.0) 72.5%

Bio-avail= 14.2 (110-575) 8.0%

DHES =not tested %

Estradiol = 22 (<39)

DHES =231 (38-313) =45.5% tested 2/14/18

Currently on 50mcg Synthroid (T4)
TSH = 0.99
Free T4 = 1.30 (0.80 - 1.80)  =50.0% of range
Free T3 = 3.3 (2.3-4.2) = 52.6% of range
Current protocol: 100mg DIM once per day. Reduction back from 200 mg. For 12 weeks. raised total T, freeT remained basically unchanged due to increases SHBG. Estradiol decrease from 30 to 22. Felt no better and maybe worse than at 100mg DIM so going back starting 9/25/18

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Re: LH/FSH levels
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2019, 12:47:09 pm »
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I think that you owe it to yourself and your wife to have the long hard discussion about having kids...or not.
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I think this is excellent advice; it's good to have someone who steps back and looks at the bigger picture.
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Protocol: 18 mg T enanthate subQ qod, 250 IU hCG subQ qod, 70 mcg anastrozole qod, 6.25 mg DHEA orally bid
7-12/2018 test results: TT: 800 ng/dL, E2: 31 pg/mL LC/MS-MS, DHEA-S: 264 ug/dL (49-344)—SHBG ~30 nmol/L

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2019, 08:32:46 pm »
I have bee on TRT for over a year now. I take 200mg 2x week, sub q in the love handles.

Without having bloodwork done, what are chances that my LH & FSH are 0 or close to it? My biggest concern is FSH. My wife is wanting to have more kids & I don't want to right now. I am not going to sneak off and have a vascetomy, so it would be nice if the FSH levels were 0.
Just to be clear what I am reading. You have been on 400mg/wk for over a year? You know that is a cycling dose not a TRT dose right? Cycling doses need to be taken no more than 16 weeks. I am really surprised you aren't dead yet since it doesn't sound like you even test your blood.

To answer your question I will bet money your LH and FSH are at 0 and you have killed off all your swimmers. You need to get to a doc and get several things checked out.

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Re: LH/FSH levels
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2019, 04:21:07 am »
I have bee on TRT for over a year now. I take 200mg 2x week, sub q in the love handles.

Without having bloodwork done, what are chances that my LH & FSH are 0 or close to it? My biggest concern is FSH. My wife is wanting to have more kids & I don't want to right now. I am not going to sneak off and have a vascetomy, so it would be nice if the FSH levels were 0.
Just to be clear what I am reading. You have been on 400mg/wk for over a year? You know that is a cycling dose not a TRT dose right? Cycling doses need to be taken no more than 16 weeks. I am really surprised you aren't dead yet since it doesn't sound like you even test your blood.

To answer your question I will bet money your LH and FSH are at 0 and you have killed off all your swimmers. You need to get to a doc and get several things checked out.

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Re: LH/FSH levels
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2019, 04:31:29 am »
This response is off medical topic. But I felt compelled to at least out it out there.

I think that you owe it to yourself and your wife to have the long hard discussion about having kids...or not.

Not trying to be preachy here but something that big must be dealt with. Or long term things can really explode. If your wife thinks you guys are trying while you are somewhat intentionally and knowingly keeping your fertility downgraded or shut down completely, I would suspect your wife WHEN she finds this out will feel betrayed and extremely hurt and probably resentful. Not to mention angry. Seems to me the hard discussion will have to take place sooner or later. And if later after she finds out you knew that fertility was at best questionable will make that later discussion MUCH more emotional and difficult.

you are free to decide what you think is best.

Just my 2 cents if it is even worth that.

I appreciate your comment. I could on about this for a long time but in a nutshell we've been married going on 11 years. She had a child out of wedlock when i met her. 3 years into marriage we conceived our 2nd  child.  2 years later a 3rd child. But since the conception of our 2nd child, our marriage has pretty much stopped. Now that our youngest is getting ready to start kindergarten, she wants another one? Hinestly, we need to work on our relationship before adding another child.

Im not going to sneak off and get a vasectomy..... so it would be nice i could just say "i cant have anymore "

**side note**
Putting aside the fact that ive been rejected the last 7 years (no communication, no hand holding, have to ask for hugs and kisses, marriage bed is always given as a rushed, aggravated chore that happens on average of about once every 2 months)..... she told me the other day that she wanted things to be normal and she didnt want to be miserable  anymore...... then she immediately threw in "oh and i want another baby"

Long nutshell.... but another child doesn't need to be brought into an unstable environment
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Re: LH/FSH levels
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2019, 08:50:01 am »
You do have some good reasons for not wanting another child. The tough part is discussing them with your wife in a way that doesn't threaten her desire to improve things between you. I'd want to know why she felt miserable. Was there an undiagnosed illness or hormonal imbalance, or was it circumstantial? Or a combination? Do you think you share in the blame for your difficulties? Would joint counseling help?
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
Age: 57, Ht: 5'10", Wt: 158 lbs
Protocol: 18 mg T enanthate subQ qod, 250 IU hCG subQ qod, 70 mcg anastrozole qod, 6.25 mg DHEA orally bid
7-12/2018 test results: TT: 800 ng/dL, E2: 31 pg/mL LC/MS-MS, DHEA-S: 264 ug/dL (49-344)—SHBG ~30 nmol/L

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Re: LH/FSH levels
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2019, 03:42:57 pm »
This response is off medical topic. But I felt compelled to at least out it out there.

I think that you owe it to yourself and your wife to have the long hard discussion about having kids...or not.

Not trying to be preachy here but something that big must be dealt with. Or long term things can really explode. If your wife thinks you guys are trying while you are somewhat intentionally and knowingly keeping your fertility downgraded or shut down completely, I would suspect your wife WHEN she finds this out will feel betrayed and extremely hurt and probably resentful. Not to mention angry. Seems to me the hard discussion will have to take place sooner or later. And if later after she finds out you knew that fertility was at best questionable will make that later discussion MUCH more emotional and difficult.

you are free to decide what you think is best.

Just my 2 cents if it is even worth that.

I appreciate your comment. I could on about this for a long time but in a nutshell we've been married going on 11 years. She had a child out of wedlock when i met her. 3 years into marriage we conceived our 2nd  child.  2 years later a 3rd child. But since the conception of our 2nd child, our marriage has pretty much stopped. Now that our youngest is getting ready to start kindergarten, she wants another one? Hinestly, we need to work on our relationship before adding another child.

Im not going to sneak off and get a vasectomy..... so it would be nice i could just say "i cant have anymore "

**side note**
Putting aside the fact that ive been rejected the last 7 years (no communication, no hand holding, have to ask for hugs and kisses, marriage bed is always given as a rushed, aggravated chore that happens on average of about once every 2 months)..... she told me the other day that she wanted things to be normal and she didnt want to be miserable  anymore...... then she immediately threw in "oh and i want another baby"

Long nutshell.... but another child doesn't need to be brought into an unstable environment

Man sorry to hear this Andreflex, You are asking the right questions.
First I would be very surprised if you are still fertile taking 200mg/wk. Have you had your swimmers tested?
On the subject of your wife.
Would she be willing to have a female hormone blood test ran? You want to boost her libido you need to know where her T lvl is.
I'll leave it there for now.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2019, 03:42:57 pm »