Hey everyone -- First of I just want to thank you guys for reading my post and I'm glad there's a site like this that exists on the internet for many of us that suffer from issues with hormones, libido, etc.. My question is if anyone has ever used Arginine with Grape Seed extract? I recently read that grape seed extract is pretty much the same thing as pycnogenol. (plus its a lot cheaper)
I bought 1000mg arginine and 250mg grape seed extract and I am planning on taking them twice per day to help boost my nitric oxide. I wanted to know if anyone has tried this? There's a lot of information out there saying that taking regular l-arginine will get metabolized fast and we are all wasting our money.. However other information I read discusses about how arginine/grape seed or arginine/pycnogenol can boost nitric oxide and is great for erectile health.. so what gives?
From my understanding it seems the grape seed activates the enzyme needed to produce/increase nitric oxide so wouldn't that decrease the need for a "time-released" arginine? after all the stuff seems pretty expensive.. let me know if anyone has any information regarding this..
i am going to try 2g arginine and 500mg of grape seed per day for a couple weeks and see how it goes.. if anyone wants me to post my progress i will.. i am 30 years old and on TRT.. about 200mg per week test CYP. i feel great and my libido is "there" but my erections don't really stay hard consistantly and my orgasm's aren't that great.. my estrogen is fine and everything else is in check.. this pretty much leads me to believe i have low NO.. eventually i am going to get the new saliva test strips and test it, but right now its cheaper to do a trial and error run.. thanks for all the help guys!!
Great idea. Basically, I gave a lot of coverage to Pycnogenol simply because it has a legitimate study or two (if you include Prelox) showing improvement in erectile dysfunction.
Now, as far as I know, grape seed extract does not have such a study, but I agree with you that it would very likely help many men with E.D. Here is an example of one such study:http://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2004/147439/abs/
"Effect of Grape Seed Extract and Quercetin on Cardiovascular and Endothelial Parameters in High-Risk Subjects"
Also, I agree with Festus that Citrulline is much more potent and it appears to be safer from the herpes standpoint from what we are hearing from Neogenis. I have had no shingles outbreaks with Citrulline and have been taking a couple grams/day for the last several weeks. Some guys really respond to small amounts of arginine though. Here is my caution with Arginine:http://www.peaktestosterone.com/herpes_arginine
If you try GSE with Citrulline or Arginine, let us know how it goes. In the meantime, I am going to put a grape seed extract page on my To Do list.