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How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« on: December 20, 2013, 08:12:15 pm »
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I also have chronic non-bacterial prostatitis.  Chronic prostatitis is almost always non-bacterial in nature.  My symptoms are/were almost all urinary.  I know alot of men have all sort of pain symptoms with CPPS (chronic pelvic pain syndrome). It can be very debilitating for some. Urologist were of very little help in my case.  They really don't know how to treat chronic prostatitis IMHO.

I am usually symptom-free if I eat well...low fat, and organic.  I also avoid high inflammation foods...such as diary...in my case.  Once something gets into the prostate it takes alot of time to get out.  It is not very well perfused with blood. My prostate is very easy inflamed.   Kegels have actually helped me.  But for some men with CPPS, Kegels may make things worse.  Almost all the "supplements" I take are to keep my arteries and blood-flow in good shape.  I also drink one glass of pomegranate juice everyday.

My last flare up was last New Years...I ate junk all December and really paid for it.   

I am sure this New Years will be better than last.
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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 06:53:34 am »
[MODERATOR's UPDATE:  I split this out from here: https://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2783.0.]

I also have chronic non-bacterial prostatitis.  Chronic prostatitis is almost always non-bacterial in nature.  My symptoms are/were almost all urinary.  I know alot of men have all sort of pain symptoms with CPPS (chronic pelvic pain syndrome). It can be very debilitating for some. Urologist were of very little help in my case.  They really don't know how to treat chronic prostatitis IMHO.

I am usually symptom-free if I eat well...low fat, and organic.  I also avoid high inflammation foods...such as diary...in my case.  Once something gets into the prostate it takes alot of time to get out.  It is not very well perfused with blood. My prostate is very easy inflamed.   Kegels have actually helped me.  But for some men with CPPS, Kegels may make things worse.  Almost all the "supplements" I take are to keep my arteries and blood-flow in good shape.  I also drink one glass of pomegranate juice everyday.

My last flare up was last New Years...I ate junk all December and really paid for it.   

I am sure this New Years will be better than last.

Here are some q's for you:

--So you don't think you have CPPS then? 

--You wrote "once something gets into the prostate", what do you mean by that?  What is the something?

--Has this ever given you a high PSA reading?  I know inflammation in the prostate can jack up one's PSA.

--So are you saying that you feel low nitric oxide and blood flow are a risk factor for this kind of prostatitis?



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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2013, 06:53:34 am »


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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2013, 04:17:32 pm »
My experience has been that the normally prescribed dietary restrictions play a much smaller role in helping my symptoms than modern urology would have you believe.

If I'm having a flare up of symptoms I'll simplify my diet if for nothing else the placebo aspect of feeling like I'm doing something. I've never felt that spicy or acidic food had any bearing on my situation except maybe during a bad flare up. Even then I'm not sure eating them or avoiding them made any difference. Same thing with caffeine or chocolate.

The relief of some of the symptoms I've experience while on Cialas is what is leading me to pursue the bio feedback avenue. The relaxing of the smooth muscles of the pelvic floor muscles experienced while on Cialas leads me to believe a chronic muscle tension or spasm in the pelvic floor is potentially a cause of irritation and inflammation in the region.

On the diet front I'm going with if it is heart/cardio friendly and if it is friendly to the endocrine system it is probably good for my pelvic floor dysfunction. That seems to be the same place that samjake has landed so maybe we are on to something.

Since I've changed my diet and gone on a daily Cialas regimen I don't have the pressure in the perineum and the pain after ejaculation is very diminished.

I wonder if the atrophy from low T that causes venous leakage could also cause muscle dysfunction in the whole pelvic region?  Hopefully I can scrape together the funds to get a full hormone work up and get a better view of the big picture.   


CHOLESTEROL, TOTAL             244
TRIGLYCERIDES                         85
HDL CHOLESTEROL                   75
VLDL CHOLESTEROL CAL           17
LDL CHOLESTEROL CALC           152
Total T                                       657
Free T                                    14.8 pg/mL

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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 04:37:24 pm »

I wonder if the atrophy from low T that causes venous leakage could also cause muscle dysfunction in the whole pelvic region?  Hopefully I can scrape together the funds to get a full hormone work up and get a better view of the big picture.

Makes sense.  But you wrote this:  "Since I've changed my diet and gone on a daily Cialas regimen I don't have the pressure in the perineum and the pain after ejaculation is very diminished."  And you wrote about the importance of relaxing those smooth muscles.

Again, it all goes back to nitric oxide so often.  I highly encourage you to read Beet the Odds by Dr. Bryan.  It's an expensive book and he points out that post-age 40, nitrates in food are your #1 source of NO.  Citrulline of course can help as can exercise and some of the food/drinks in my book. 

What I'm getting at is that Cialis probably helps because your root problem my be NO-related.  In the West we have dramatically reduced nitric oxide levels by age 40 generally due to our lifestyles.  We have to face the fact that we have to do everything in our power to get that NO up naturally, because we are almost for sure very depleted.
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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 04:37:24 pm »


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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2013, 06:42:17 pm »
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Here are some q's for you:

--So you don't think you have CPPS then? 

--You wrote "once something gets into the prostate", what do you mean by that?  What is the something?

--Has this ever given you a high PSA reading?  I know inflammation in the prostate can jack up one's PSA.

--So are you saying that you feel low nitric oxide and blood flow are a risk factor for this kind of prostatitis?

Hi Peak...good questions!

Naw, I do not believe that I have CPPS.  My main symptom especially during flare ups is I feel I cannot empty my bladder completely.  CPPS symptoms seem to be more severe.  Pain in the genitals or anal area, very painful urination, and painful ejaculation.

The prostate gets very little blood flow.  So it is extremely difficult to "flush" any irritants from it.  That is why I try to limit the toxins I take into my body.  I try to limit my ingestion of chemicals and pesticides.  So, if one eats foods high in pesticides, for instance, these poisons eventually end up in the prostate.  It takes I long time for the prostate to eliminate these things.  Also, in my case, I believe Kegels increase oxygenation and blood flow to the pelvic area.  Moreover, Kegels sorta give the prostate a massage.

So, I will try to anything that helps blood flow.  Exercise, reduce systemic inflammation, beetroot juice, etc.  I am hoping that by improving my arteries and blood flow it will in turn help with my prostate issues.  I do feel much better than a year ago...certainly my eating and exercise habits have help more than the antibiotics and Advil that the uro's prescribed me.

I am not sure about prostate inflammation and PSA's. 

An alright book on some of this stuff is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005Y6CWAQ/ref=kinw_myk_ro_title.  There are some parts that I disagree with but for the most part I found it helpful.

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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 08:53:40 pm »
Great info and ideas!  Thx...

Andrew Erik has a great link on it imo.  Can't post it now.
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Re: How I Beat Non-Bacterial Prostatitis
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 08:53:40 pm »