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stunna5

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Low Progesterone and Low Testosterone
« on: January 11, 2014, 05:24:24 pm »
thx!

i recently found this (1 year old) on my computer. some blood work.

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Re: Low Progesterone and Low Testosterone
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 08:11:07 pm »
The low progesterone really stands out to me.  I have been pretty impressed with the stories I have heard about pregnenalone.  The concept behind taking pregnenalone is that your body can utilize it wherever it needs to, including downstream for progesterone.  So you could take some and see if it raises the progesterone and if you feel any better?

However, if you are not having any "adrenal fatigue" type symptoms, then this is probably not necessary.

Here is some info from Dr. Lam's site:

http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue_and_hormone.asp

"Taking pregnenolone for adrenal fatigue can therefore be challenging for multiple reasons as paradoxical reaction is a major concern. In addition, one can take what appears to be an adequate dosage but will not benefit from this if the body is shunting it towards cortisol production. On the other hand, overdose is possible if too much is taken over time.

The normal starting dose is 15 mg, increasing up to 100 mg for men or women. Pregnenolone should be derived from a pharmacologically pure product and not a yam-derived "precursor. Oral pregnenolone pills work well. Sublingual administration is an excellent option by bypassing the initial liver metabolism that occurs after swallowing an oral pill but it tends to be "spiky" and not well tolerated by those who are sensitive or in advanced s adrenal fatigue state.

Pregnenolone is converted in the body to progesterone and these two hormones have some overlapping similarities. Pregnenolone is also converted into DHEA, which, in turn may convert into androstenedione, testosterone, and estrogens. Pregnenolone supplementation may increase progesterone levels and consequently other hormones in the body (testosterone and estradiol)."

You could get a little testosterone boost from it but not much.  Please read the whole page if you and your doc decide to go that route as there are a couple of cautions.
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Re: Low Progesterone and Low Testosterone
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Re: Low Progesterone and Low Testosterone
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 08:25:10 pm »
thx!! i ve never thought of adrenal fatigue even the doc didnt comment my low progesterone level! i'll keep this in mind and ask him next time!

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Re: Low Progesterone and Low Testosterone
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 08:28:54 pm »
thx!! i ve never thought of adrenal fatigue even the doc didnt comment my low progesterone level! i'll keep this in mind and ask him next time!

Well, over here adrenal fatigue is not an officially recognized condition.  Don't know how it is in your country.  It is just practiced by certain alternative docs over here.

One comment is that I believe that some "adrenal fatigue" is just high inflammation which pushes down thyroid and adrenal function.  So you want to always work on inflammation simultaneously imo...
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Re: Low Progesterone and Low Testosterone
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 12:15:40 am »
Just an extension of my theory on low SHBG, but what if it's a little simpler than what everyone is making this out to be.   I.e. If you are clearing out hormones too quickly then your pro hormones are going to be a little on the low side.

My progesterone and Pregnenolone were also on the low side.  4 and 20 respectively.  When I supplemented with Pregnenolone my progesterone didn't change much but my Pregnenolone went up to 160.   It's almost like certain parts of the hormone cascade are limiting steps and Pregnenolone to progesterone seems to be one.   Of course progesterone has multiple pathways so that kind of makes sense too.

http://www.rheinlabs.com/rhien_images/05_il/05_sterPath.pdf

What's interesting is when I was on TRT my androstenedione was also proportionally higher than my other hormones.   Makes you wonder if there is a reason that is another bottle neck

Your total t isn't that low,compared to your free t so you might not be that bad off., pull SHBG and AM cortisol.   Supplementing with Pregnenolone makes sense because your just making sure your body has enough raw materials, but your not gonna get much more hormone production unless you address other health issues.   

Just my opinion.

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Re: Low Progesterone and Low Testosterone
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