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qweschun

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How do we cut the cost of supplementation
« on: August 01, 2012, 10:40:06 am »
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I wonder if you and members could give their thoughts on reduceing the cost on supplements. I`m on the following.

Cialis 5g Daily................... don`t want to give up on these as they have made a big difference
Undernatured Whey......... decided to take 2 times daily instead 3     
Neo 40 Daily ....................have thought of deleting these cause they are expensive.perhaps 1 every second day
Creatine............................I`m assumeing that my muscles need this product for recovery
Tribulus 20g......................Undecided on tribulus, have had similar results with less amount
Korean Ginseng.................Like the idea of this thinning the blood, i think it gives harder erections
Coq10...............................Undecided
Cocoa ...............................      "
Maca.................................      "

I`m thinking of reduceing some of these to every second day. Has anyone or is anyone doing this and still getting results ?

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Re: How do we cut the cost of supplementation
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 01:18:51 pm »
If I was you, I would experiment with the Cialis. You may be able to alter the dosage somewhat without weakening its effects. You just have to experiment. For example, you may try taking it 2 out of every 3 days.

Also you can buy a generic Cialis online from a Canadian pharmacy, but you have to make sure it is a legit place. Lots of ripoffs. I buy 20mg generics and cut them up into pieces.
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Re: How do we cut the cost of supplementation
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Re: How do we cut the cost of supplementation
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 02:08:24 pm »
A few comments:

Imo you want to tweak down the Cialis as low as you can go.  For example, it may be decreasing blood flow to your optic nerve - more studywork needs to be done and, in the meantime, I would play it cautious.  See if you can get it down to 2-3 mg for example per day.  And that, of course, will save you money.

I bought Maca in a Navitas bag and it lasts forever.  Quite inexpensive this way even though I took a fair amount. 

You can try Citrulline + a source of nitrates (spinach, celery, lettuce, beet root extract) instead of the Neo40.  Neo40 will have more horsepower than these probably though, but this is the "poor man's version".

Creatine I but in a big blue container and it lasts forever.  The container cost $15 or $20, but it will last me for about four months, so I'm not sure why this would be a big expense?

Ginseng:  Buy it off of Amazon is the only way to save money.  Make sure you get an "unleaded" product.

Undenatured Whey:  Make your own egg whites.  Whey (undenatured only) has some nice properties such as boosting glutathione, but, if you want to save money, just make your own protein in a skillet.  I'm not a big fan of casein - read the China study for example - but nonfat milk is another option.

CAUTION:  Always talk to your doc before adding supplements.

« Last Edit: August 01, 2012, 04:38:11 pm by PeakT »
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Re: How do we cut the cost of supplementation
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 09:00:06 pm »
If I was you, I would experiment with the Cialis. You may be able to alter the dosage somewhat without weakening its effects. You just have to experiment. For example, you may try taking it 2 out of every 3 days.

Also you can buy a generic Cialis online from a Canadian pharmacy, but you have to make sure it is a legit place. Lots of ripoffs. I buy 20mg generics and cut them up into pieces.

Yes thanks Quincy, I`ve been looking at the/a Canadian Pharmacy for some time and have just ordered a 30 pack 5g Cialis, I paid $174 Australian dollars for the same here in Aus and these are only $64 plus freight from Canadian Pharmacy.  Unbelieveable.
Peak T. I`ll check out the Amazone store, I hope all the big containers you mentioned are on amazone, freight may be a problem.
Funny you should mention the optic nerve in regard to cialis, I`ve just noticed a slight irritance with sun glare the last couple of days, Could be related?
I have already decided to try cialis every second day, maybe alternate the cialis and Neo40.
Thanks Again.

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Re: How do we cut the cost of supplementation
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Re: How do we cut the cost of supplementation
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 09:18:18 pm »

Funny you should mention the optic nerve in regard to cialis, I`ve just noticed a slight irritance with sun glare the last couple of days, Could be related?
I have already decided to try cialis every second day, maybe alternate the cialis and Neo40.
Thanks Again.

Yes, talk to your doc and pharmacist.  And, above all, I would try going completely off of it for a week and see if that makes a difference as well.  Don't mess with your vision. 

Don't mean to sound harsh but read these asap and get informed.  Not something to play around with:

http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Frequently_Asked_Questions_About_Tadalafil_for_Treating_Men_with_Erectile_Dysfunction.pdf
"PDE6 is located in the retina, and is an essential component of visual transduction.  Inhibition of PDE6 can result in transient visual changes such as blue halos and increased sensitivity to light.  Tadalafil has no significant effect on PDE6.  Sildenafil and vardenafil inhibit PDE6 at concentrations within the therapeutic range."

Of course, the issue is what is "significant" and what does "within the therapeutic range" mean?

http://archopht.jamanetwork.com/article?articleid=416889

http://journals.lww.com/cns-journal/Citation/2006/09000/Viagra_and_Vision_Loss__What_is_Known_and_Unknown.7
" In premarketing studies, sildenafil was associated with abnormal color
vision and brightness that were dose dependent and reversible."


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https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: How do we cut the cost of supplementation
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 09:18:18 pm »