Natural Route or Prescriptions? (If you were in my shoes)

[Peyt]

Hi Guys,

For those who have tried both routes, which one have you seen better results from?

I have just taken a Lab test from ZRT. Now its time to make an appointment with a Doctor and I am seeing that there are 2 general types, the MDs that want to write a prescription for a compounding pharmaceuticals and the Chiros and Acupuncturists who want to give me natural supplements.

My past experience:
1. I saw an Endocrinologist 3 years ago and he tested me and prescribed these shots that i was suppose to take every month. I only took one shot, noticed some improvements in the sex drive dept. but also noticed my belly grow out and I felt stuffed and could not move... i stopped it and never went back.

2. I saw an acupuncturist/herbalist who never tested me and i think was very old school. He just diagnosed me without any lab tests. Gave me some herbs that were somewhat helpful but my digestion is so poor that I got so much gas and bloating I stopped it.

If you were in my shoes which route would you try this time around?
Thanks
Peyt

[PeakT]

What is your baseline testosterone level?

The reason that I am asking is that, unless you are truly zinc deficient, I don't know of any herb/supplement that will take a truly hypogonadal male and double or triple his testosterone which is what needs to happen in  most cases.

Or do I not understand your question?

[Peyt]

Hi,
I got tested twice, once it showed 261 and the 2nd time 290. (these tests were only a couple of months apart)
The reason I got tested twice is because I went to another Dr. to get a 2nd opinion and he said he did not like the first test because the first Dr. did not test for free T. so he ordered a new test which registered at 290, and the Free T was 49.

I have never had my Zinc levels checked.

[PeakT]

Hi,
I got tested twice, once it showed 261 and the 2nd time 290. (these tests were only a couple of months apart)
The reason I got tested twice is because I went to another Dr. to get a 2nd opinion and he said he did not like the first test because the first Dr. did not test for free T. so he ordered a new test which registered at 290, and the Free T was 49.

I have never had my Zinc levels checked.

Well, let me add a few more options to your mix:

1.  Try to do a restart with Clomid:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_restart

2.  Try HCG Monotherapy, which is semi-natural

[Peyt]

Hi,
I got tested twice, once it showed 261 and the 2nd time 290. (these tests were only a couple of months apart)
The reason I got tested twice is because I went to another Dr. to get a 2nd opinion and he said he did not like the first test because the first Dr. did not test for free T. so he ordered a new test which registered at 290, and the Free T was 49.

I have never had my Zinc levels checked.

Well, let me add a few more options to your mix:

1.  Try to do a restart with Clomid:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_restart

2.  Try HCG Monotherapy, which is semi-natural

Intersting you mention Clomid,
Didn't Sam try Clomid?
did it work for him?

Also, does anyone know of a Zinc/Copper cream or spray? I have poor digestion and prefer topical stuff.
Thanks

[PeakT]

Intersting you mention Clomid,
Didn't Sam try Clomid?
did it work for him?

I'll let Sam speak for himself, but, yes, he tried it and I think it's fair to say he did not like it at all:  lots of sides.

Restarts do not work very often.  It seems to be a Hail Mary shot in the dark sort of thing.  But it's pretty easy to try and pretty inexpensive...

[Peyt]

Natural all the way. It's hard and slow but if you treat your body right it will pay back 10 fold. People want a quick fix. Quick fixes mean you rely on the doctors. I hate that,

Hi , can you ellaborate?
How did you come up with the right natural combo that worked for you?
Did u go to see a ND? Self study? how?
and what supplements are working for you?
Thanks

[Sam]

Clomid has alot to do with how it is administered.  MY first doc wanted me to take 50mg twice a week and I felt like crap.  Then he moved me to 25mg 3 times a week still felt like crap.  Then I moved to 12.5mg every day and things were better but still unacceptable sides and it didnt boost my T levels very  much.

IMO clomid is good for restarts and thats about it.  If I do it again I will do 1 week 25mg every day then go to 12.5mg every day for 1 week then 12.5mg eod for 2 more weeks.

Then test LH/FSH and decide what to do next.

[PeakT]

IMO clomid is good for restarts and thats about it. 

It's hard to beat on the fertility front from what I've read...