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Vegan to Plant Based
« on: July 23, 2012, 05:50:45 am »
Hey! I saw your article on plant based diets as opposed to vegetarian. Great piece. I am in complete agreement. After being practically vegan for almost a year, I have opened up to increasing intake of wild caught salmon and shrimp on occasion. I love seafood, so it's not like it's a hardship!

What do you think about going from vegan to "plant based"?

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Re: Vegan to Plant Based
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 02:21:38 pm »
Interesting.  So you're plant-based but not really Low Fat at this point?  I thought you were pretty much Low Fat?
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Re: Vegan to Plant Based
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 07:01:40 pm »
I'm low fat in that I try to never use added oil. I don't add olive oil to anything, but I eat olives. I spray a non-stick pan just enough to cook something, but I don't add any oil to food.

I also don't consume any saturated fat whatsoever except for what may be in my salmon (wild caught, skin removed).

My most fat laden indulgences are avacados and nut butters.

So, compared to most American men that pretty low fat. But probably more than Dr. Essylsten would approve of.

So, do you consider my diet low fat enough to call low fat?

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Re: Vegan to Plant Based
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 09:51:29 pm »
Interesting side note for you:  a "very low fat diet" in the literature is < 15% fat.  Are you "very low fat".  Well, it depends just how much of the nut butters and avocadoes that you have.

Also:  No one really knows the threshold at which the benefits of Low Fat are nullified.  Is it linear?  Again, we don't have a definitive answer to that.  There is one study I remember looking at where the participants were at 20% and had no benefits from a Low Fat Diet, so that may indicate that you really need to be < 20%.  But that's just one study, one subpopulation, etc.

If you're an avid exerciser - and that fits you obviously - then you're in good shape.

If you're seeing anything different let me know?
« Last Edit: July 23, 2012, 10:24:18 pm by PeakT »
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Re: Vegan to Plant Based
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 02:23:11 pm »
One more thing about the fat totals-- <20% vs. >20% etc. I have heard that some fat from avacados, olives and salmon is T promoting, but getting more than 20% total calories in fat negates any benefits of a low fat diet. So, I guess I'm trying to walk the line and get the best of both worlds by keeping the total colories from fat at around 20% or so and getting some good fats from whol;e food sources like olives and avacados.

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Re: Vegan to Plant Based
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2012, 02:36:21 pm »
Yes, but a low fat may lower E2 more proportionately according to one study.  I hope to do a page on that soon...
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Re: Vegan to Plant Based
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