Author Topic: Observations after 1 month HRT (Read 38714 times)

Prsartist · « **Reply #45 on:** October 10, 2012, 02:46:39 am »

Well it's been 4 weeks since my Dr. Ignored
My concerns about my estradiol level jumping to
58, then to 78! Before prescribing amirdex .25 2x/week.

Labs this week revealed

Total t 698
Free t. 2.3
Estradiol. 42

Dr. States my estradiol is now ok!!!
Hell no, I tell him, my baseline was 24
And we need to get this under 30!!

He put up absolutely NO fight and increased
Me to .25 EOD. Still no morning erections ( that I notice)
But expecting them any day now!!

Also started me on HCG 2x weekly to keep the
Boys happy!

Shocking part was the Dr. Was concerned that 698
May be a little low for me the day before injection, and may want to
Up my dosage after we see what the HGC does to my levels!
My total t has dropped every month since starting treatment
From 900's to the recent 698. Never really read of anyone taking over 1cc
Except Bodybuilders???

PeakT · « **Reply #46 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:16:06 am »

Quote from: Prsartist on October 10, 2012, 02:46:39 am

Shocking part was the Dr. Was concerned that 698
May be a little low for me the day before injection, and may want to
Up my dosage after we see what the HGC does to my levels!
My total t has dropped every month since starting treatment
From 900's to the recent 698. Never really read of anyone taking over 1cc
Except Bodybuilders???

Wow! Most guys can't get treated in the 200's and your doc wants to pump you past 4X that. It's a crazy world, eh?

No, those sound like pretty high numbers he's trying for. You may want to ask him his reasoning?

Peak Testosterone Forum · « **Reply #46 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:16:06 am »

Prsartist · « **Reply #47 on:** October 10, 2012, 11:49:48 am »

Woo hoo! Morning wood for the 1st time in
8 weeks! I knew it was just around the corner!

My Dr. Doesn't agree with my. "Expert" opinion
That the cause of the ED is high estradiol, he thinks that
Because I had a great week (around week 3 after starting trt)
That the cause of ED was from my T levels dropping
From the. 900's to the 700's.

Quincy · « **Reply #48 on:** October 10, 2012, 02:57:59 pm »

That's great! Sounds like you dialed in on the problem.

When you say you are injecting 1cc per week, is the amount of T 200mg/cc?

That is the dosage I'm on right now but doing 300mg every 10 days. I may switch to 200mg per week in the near future.

I've never had my estradiol checked but am concerned about the high dosage I'm on.

Peak Testosterone Forum · « **Reply #48 on:** October 10, 2012, 02:57:59 pm »

Prsartist · « **Reply #49 on:** October 10, 2012, 03:03:18 pm »

I believe 1cc is 100mg...
2-300mg is the most I've heard anyone taking (besides Bodybuilders)

Quincy · « **Reply #50 on:** October 10, 2012, 07:03:58 pm »

Thanks Prsartist,
I've seen guidelines from the drug manf. They show a dosage range of 50mg to 400mg every 2 to 4 weeks.

According to this site, Testosterone Cypionate Injection, USP is available in one strength, 200 mg/mL Testosterone Cypionate, USP.

http://www.drugs.com/pro/testosterone-cypionate.html

You can look on your vial to see the strength.

I'm going to go with the 200mg/wk for a little while and then drop it down some to see if I feel any better, worse, or the same. From the above recommended dosage, I'm at the max rate currently.

Prsartist · « **Reply #51 on:** October 10, 2012, 10:55:00 pm »

Messing with hormones is serious business and you
Need to be tested regularly and under a Dr's supervision.
You start messing around with taking "whatever you feel like"
And your sure to expierence negative effects sooner or later.

There are just too many things that can go wrong
Yes their is likely only 1 strength. I'm referring to
Dosage of 1cc per week.

Quincy · « **Reply #52 on:** October 11, 2012, 02:47:01 am »

I must have given you the wrong impression. My doc has me prescribed at 300mg every 10days. I'm just starting out and trying to find the right amount and frequency of shots. I asked the doctor if I could try every 7 days if it felt like too big of a swing. Basically taking the same daily dosage.

Prsartist · « **Reply #53 on:** October 11, 2012, 09:19:01 am »

Well I don't know what to tell ya.
I'm no expert, but that sounds like an awfully
High dose every 10 days. I personally would be
VERY Leary on taking that much!

Quincy · « **Reply #54 on:** October 11, 2012, 04:01:51 pm »

You are right, that is a large dose. At the top of the range from what I have read is prescribed by docs for treating low T. I may try lowering it after a few more shot cycles and see how I feel. I was just curious how many T mg you were taking in a 1 cc shot. It is either 100mg or 200mg as that is how cypionate is manufactured by Pharma, but I didn't mean to take over your thread.

feelgood · « **Reply #55 on:** October 16, 2012, 12:30:10 am »

just wanted to chime in on the Arimidex front. Prior to Clomid/T treatment ( been on clomid-only for 7 months), my estradiol came in at 67.

After about 5 weeks on clomid, at my first blood reading after starting clomid, my estradiol came in at 26 (with T up to 630). That's pretty sweet.

Then i had another blood reading at about 6 months, and estradiol came in at 37 (T reading was 515).

I was taking clomid 50mg EOD, then switched to 25mg ED, so i had another blood work scheduled to see how i am doing on that protocol (seems like the same thing to me, but whatever).

If my estradiol reads even higher than 37, if you were me, would you bring up Arimidex? Is 37 fine or is it edging into high territory? I think if it's gone up again i should ask about Arimidex. Clomid has been fine for me in terms of raising my overall T level (not higher end of range, but i'll take it), but i can't say i have great morning wood or hugely increased libido. Wondering if estradiol might have something to do with that and if Arimidex might help.

Prsartist · « **Reply #56 on:** October 16, 2012, 12:43:41 am »

Well I'm not a Dr. And can't tell you what you "should" do.
I know my E2 levels are NOT good for me at 42. (My last test)
I will not even settle for anything in the 30's!

But this is a slow trial and error period with little changes in dosage.
At least I'm able to function now. Trust me when high E2 causes total
ED the last thing you want to do is wait and make little changes!

PeakT · « **Reply #57 on:** October 16, 2012, 01:44:04 am »

Quote from: starry on October 16, 2012, 12:30:10 am

I was taking clomid 50mg EOD, then switched to 25mg ED, so i had another blood work scheduled to see how i am doing on that protocol (seems like the same thing to me, but whatever).

If my estradiol reads even higher than 37, if you were me, would you bring up Arimidex? Is 37 fine or is it edging into high territory? I think if it's gone up again i should ask about Arimidex. Clomid has been fine for me in terms of raising my overall T level (not higher end of range, but i'll take it), but i can't say i have great morning wood or hugely increased libido. Wondering if estradiol might have something to do with that and if Arimidex might help.

Starry, I feel a little uncomfortable telling you whether or not to increase/decrease a pharmaceutical. Have you seen the LEF article? That is probably a reasonable general guideline. But keep in mind symptoms are very important as well.

And, yes, E2 can very much play into erectile strength and libido, so that could definitely be causing issues.

Keep working on the morning erections as this can be from other factors: dopamine/nitric oxide/stress/sleep, etc. as you probably know from poking around on my site:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Morning_Erections

Peak Testosterone Forum · « **Reply #57 on:** October 16, 2012, 01:44:04 am »

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