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Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
« on: November 20, 2014, 12:11:14 am »
Hi, 1 year ago i had decent erections, not the hardest but it mostly worked and i achieved orgasm in a reasonable time.
Beginning of januari this year i switched from testogel too nebido and i couldnt find an erection even if i had map and compass, after several weeks i could feel it slowly returning, after several more weeks it more or less had returned to how it was before nebido and then it was time for next injection...i also found it much harder to achieve orgasm and it didn't feel right.

This summer a test showed i had slightly elevated E2, my result was 181 pmol/l and range 50-162 and nothing happened, no doctor seems to think this is an issue and so far refuse to even consider my problems to have anything with E2 to do.

This autumn i meet a new doctor and he quickly changed from 12 week to 8 week injections and, well im not going to describe how it made me fell since i would need to curse in roughly 32 different languages to even get close.
No erections at all not even soft, achieving orgasm was borderline impossible and orgasm didn't feel good at all, increased pain from toes to head, sleeping less good and some other problems.

Then i made a request for arimidex and thankfully my request was handled by a doctor either knowing what she did or more likely, didnt know what she did, either way i got a recipe for ~400 pills and supposed to take one a day.
I noticed a change the first day but the second day, WOW my little weiner was alive again and the feeling was amazing, it was so hard it was almost painfull, i can honestly say it felt like i had forgotten how good it feels.

The 5th day i changed from 1 pill a day to every 2 days and i could feel the goodness starting to decline for 1-2 weeks, then i got an injection and up and bouncing again, T was 14 nmol/l 2 days before injection.

E2 was at this point 70 pmol/l or lower so i changed how often i take arimidex to pill every third day to avoid it crashing, when i got a new doctor i also got a new hospital using a different laboratory, E2 range now starts at 70 which is the lowest measurable and ends at 150 maybe a little higher, last injection was 29 days ago and here is the problem.

I have not had morningwood for more then 2 weeks, i cant even remember the last time i had a spontaneous erection, orgasm feels good but takes alot of effort, erections can be everything from soft to rock hard even during one day.

1. is it normal to have a much harder time achieving orgasm when T is raised from very low to normal levels?
2. what can be the reason for erections ranging from soft to rock hard from day to day often even during 1 day?
3. is there any chance that pill arimidex every third day is to much?

Ps, talking to a doctor is unfortunately useless, have yet to meet a doctor that actually knows anything about e2 or what effects elevated e2 can have, next bloodtest is scheduled at the end of this year.

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« Last Edit: November 20, 2014, 02:54:39 am by PeakT »

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Re: Weak erections with nebido and amiridex?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 12:26:08 am »
Do bloodwork and check E2 asap, yes, as my E2 goes down erections become very very firm etc... glad to hear you fixed that aspect of your life as it can be frustrating.

Also, that is seriously high E2, and it feels terrible.

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Re: Weak erections with nebido and amiridex?
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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 03:40:35 pm »
You did notice that E2 is measured on pmol/l and not pg/ml?
70 pmol/l = 19 pg/mL

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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 04:36:46 pm »
You did notice that E2 is measured on pmol/l and not pg/ml?
70 pmol/l = 19 pg/mL

I totally understand why the 181 caused you problems!  That's very high imo. 

Now my comment is that you seem like a guy who really needs testosterone and estradiol dialed into decent levels and you cannot go too low with testosterone nor too high or low with the estradiol based on your description above.  And that leads to my next question:  why not go with subQ testosterone cypionate?  You can inject twice a week at home and you can dial in just about any level that you want.  If you lose all the extra weight, you can probably get completely off of the Arimidex like I did or at least have very minimal dosing.

But think about it:  with Nebido, your testosterone is changing week to week, so it's very difficult to dial in an Arimidex dose.  And, as you mentioned, you have to be very careful that you don't crash your estradiol in particular.
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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2014, 10:23:29 pm »
  And that leads to my next question:  why not go with subQ testosterone cypionate?
It would make me a criminal in the eyes of the law, nebido is the only legal option for injections.

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If you lose all the extra weight, you can probably get completely off of the Arimidex like I did or at least have very minimal dosing.
Easier said then done when having chronic hunger, tired and a strong lack of energy but its been slowly slowly going down since i started with arimidex.

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But think about it:  with Nebido, your testosterone is changing week to week, so it's very difficult to dial in an Arimidex dose. 
Perhaps need a stronger dose the first time after injection?

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2014, 11:22:50 pm »
  And that leads to my next question:  why not go with subQ testosterone cypionate?
It would make me a criminal in the eyes of the law, nebido is the only legal option for injections.

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If you lose all the extra weight, you can probably get completely off of the Arimidex like I did or at least have very minimal dosing.
Easier said then done when having chronic hunger, tired and a strong lack of energy but its been slowly slowly going down since i started with arimidex.

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But think about it:  with Nebido, your testosterone is changing week to week, so it's very difficult to dial in an Arimidex dose. 
Perhaps need a stronger dose the first time after injection?

Well, if you have the money, you need to pull off some T and E2 #s every week to two weeks so you can figure out how to play this thing. 

I kind of doubt you need a stronger dose based on your description, but you don't want to fly blind.
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
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And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2014, 12:44:21 am »
Well, if you have the money, you need to pull off some T and E2 #s every week to two weeks so you can figure out how to play this thing. 
Unfortunately its not an option, disability pension.

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I kind of doubt you need a stronger dose based on your description, but you don't want to fly blind.
2 things have happened after i started this thread, it got worse and then better.

For many years i have lived with pain throughout my body, muscle pain mostly and have been using pain medication on and off for long periods of time.
1 month before i started with arimidex it was more painfull to get up from the couch then to make a root canal without  anesthesia, this pain is always worse during autumn but 99.9% of the pain disappeared in 2 days flat when i started with arimidex and zero need for pain medication.

2 days ago this pain came back, when i hold my arms up it took less then a minute for the muscles to get sore and didnt take much strain to have pain when resting.
1 day ago i took 1.5mg arimidex instead of 0.5mg and it didnt take many hours before i started to feel an improvement, today i had the best sleep for a couple of weeks, the pain is mostly gone, easier to get an erection and it was stronger.

0.5mg every 2 days puts e2 below 19 pg/ml limit the laboratory can measure, weekly dosage 1.75mg
0.5mg every 3 days seems to be a little to low, weekly dosage 1.165mg

Can i take 0.5mg every 4 days and 0.25mg every 4 days for a weekly dosage 1.31mg or can it be too uneven to take one stronger and one weaker dose?

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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2014, 01:55:37 am »
What is your T level, how is your E2 so high?

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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 01:38:25 am »
20th October T was 14 nmol/l (407 pg/dl) , October 22nd i got an injection with nebido, 17th December next scheduled injection.

Regarding E2 not much have been checked as far as i know, i got very little information since i never met any doctor during the first 4 years that wanted to talk about this, the medication, how it works and all that, instead i was told everything looked fine including a sample when T was 4.8 nmol/l (139 pg/dl) and diagnosed with Hypothyroidism which turned out to be wrong.
What i do know is that E2 have been checked twice but on my request, why its high? possibly a combination of weight and gynecomastia.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 01:55:54 am by Sighalot »

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Re: Weak Erections with Nebido and Arimidex?
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