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ED Man

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Don't really want to use the patch
« on: December 02, 2011, 07:30:18 am »
hello, I was hoping you guys could help me out with a question i Have. My Dr just told me that my T-level is at 251 and wants to put me on a patch. I already take ED helper pills like Viagra + Bystolic for blood pressure.  Would like to come of the Viagra and not take the patch. Any suggestions? If it matters I am only 34 years old.

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 01:18:52 pm »
Okay, I have to ask:  why does he want to use the patch?  That's quite rare any more.  What's his reasoning?
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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 01:18:52 pm »


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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 04:44:02 pm »
Yes- most docs will now start their patients on gels like androgel or testim.  There are also compounded creams, but same premise as gels.  Some docs prefer to start with pellets as this basically ensures absorption and the patient then can know if his symptoms are due to low T.  Guys absorb the gels at different rates though, but the pellets ensure a steady and full absorption.  I'm a proponent of pellets if TRT is required. 

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 09:10:32 am »
Well I picked up my RX today and its actually Androgel. Dr originally stated it was the patch.
 But my next questions is how does Androgel work compaired to t boosters sold at heatlh stores?
Thanks again for your help and time!

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 05:25:59 pm »
Keep in mind that all guys absord gels differently. Hopefully you have a follow-up visit in a month or so to re-check your T levels.  The gels do work and it is best to work with a doc when using external T to boost your levels.

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 12:02:29 pm »
I'm the guy that wrote the losing mojo at 37 thread. Like you I felt I was too young for the patches. Particularly since six months before I was in the rudest of sexual health. I am intrigued to know whether there may have been any mitigating circumstances that could have lowered your testosterone. As my thread suggests I am putting much of my problem down to stress and poor diet. Please read the Dr. Lam article and ponder whether you have had any of these other symptoms. Some of these can be down to low testosterone too.

http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp?page=3

http://www.naturalnews.com/019339.html

Other contributors can correct me if I am wrong, but don't all of these testosterone patches and injections ruin your own production of the stuff, rendering you dependent on them?

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 02:56:20 pm »
The potential is there if done incorrectly.  You can even atrophy the testes a little if you give too much external testosterone.  Steroid users, for example, run into this problem and do all kinds of unnatural acts to try to avoid this complication.  However, the dosages given in the doctors office only generally lower your natural output slightly.  Talk to your doc though - he's the expert...
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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2011, 11:52:38 pm »
I've looked at this some because I suspect that low T may have been behind my problem.  Hard to tell because in reading up on this in more detail my Dr. didn't test the right way.  It troubled me that to treat low T they are treating the symptom and not the cause.  I didn't find any one good source that talked about possible causes, but have seen some references to substances that can promote estrogen (interfering with testosterone).  I have reduced my intake of soy and beer as a result.  Regarding the supplements available at health food stores, the evidence is mixed but Tribulus Terrestris and DHEA seemed promising.  Whether these have helped or not I can't say because I made so many changes (see my thread what's working for me).  In any case I believe that whether it is due to low T or circulatory issues, ED is a symptom of poor health and so improving overall health thru diet and exercise may help.

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2011, 03:15:57 am »
You can raised T somewhat through lifestyle changes.  However, it's hard to get a big boost in T that way.

The problem is that andropause seems to be due to oxidative and environmental damage coupled with aging.  So it appears to be partially reversible in some cases, but many guys - once they experience symptoms that is - to be in the 200-320 range and that's a hard pit to "dig yourself out of".

Of course, you can try herbs and supplements, but no one really knows about their safety...
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 02:05:54 am »
I applaud you for trying to correct things and to raise your T levels with supplements.  But if it doesn't work and you aren't getting results, there is nothing wrong about supplementing testosterone under doctor's supervision.  Why suffer unnessarily when you can correct your T levels relatively quickly?  It does work.  My testes areen't atrophied and I'm having the time of my life again!  For me, I accepted the fact that some men just have lower T levels.  I got over it and I'm feeling real good again.  Just my take on it.  That's all I can offer.

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Re: Don't really want to use the patch
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 02:05:54 am »