Low Estradiol Versus High Estradiol

[PeakT]

So, I am a little confused. I am waiting  for a sensitive estradiol. I am having some low back to right flank pain. What is the goal range for the senstive test?

My old HRT clinic did 20-30 at the time.  Also, check out these:

http://www.lef.org/Magazine/2008/11/Dangers-of-Excess-Estrogen-in-the-Aging-Male/Page-02

http://www.lef.org/Magazine/2010/5/Why-Estrogen-Balance-is-Critical-to-Aging-Men/Page-01

[Sighalot]

I am having some low back to right flank pain.

Does this fit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratus_lumborum_muscle

[kquad]

could be,but it extends out, my obliques are actually tender to the touch

[kquad]

well it took a week to get the results.  I was taking 16o mg test with 250 iu 2x week HCG along with 1/4 mg arimidex 2 times weekly. That gave me a estradiol sensitive test of 16. Which would explain the back aches and insomnia. I did not have the results, but wanted to try a lower dose as that is now popular in the forum 

 I switched to 120 mg Test with the same HCG. I skipped the first arimidex (while waiting for the results), I slept great. I then took 0.25 mg arimidex 2 days ago and back came the insomnia and back ache.  I seem to not need a lot of help from arimidex, even with fairly high doses Testosterone. I am going to stay at 120mg for now with HCG and no estradiol blocker. My skin is not greasy here and I do not feel so amped up. I may be a little supra-physiological, but not much, by my estimation. Your prediction may not be that far off Peak (you said I would get down near 100mg). I may not go all the way down to 100 mg, but I am close

[PeakT]

well it took a week to get the results.  I was taking 16o mg test with 250 iu 2x week HCG along with 1/4 mg arimidex 2 times weekly. That gave me a estradiol sensitive test of 16. Which would explain the back aches and insomnia. I did not have the results, but wanted to try a lower dose as that is now popular in the forum 

 I switched to 120 mg Test with the same HCG. I skipped the first arimidex (while waiting for the results), I slept great. I then took 0.25 mg arimidex 2 days ago and back came the insomnia and back ache.  I seem to not need a lot of help from arimidex, even with fairly high doses Testosterone. I am going to stay at 120mg for now with HCG and no estradiol blocker. My skin is not greasy here and I do not feel so amped up. I may be a little supra-physiological, but not much, by my estimation. Your prediction may not be that far off Peak (you said I would get down near 100mg). I may not go all the way down to 100 mg, but I am close

 I wouldn't keep taking the Arimidex with estradiol that low myself.  And if you are dropping your cypionate dose, I can't see you needing it.  Discuss with your doc...

[kquad]

No, I said I am dropping the arimidex and staying at 120 mg Testosterone with the HCG. I have a little anxiety and melancholy back, but that may be the lower estrogen. If not, I may end up trying 140 mg Testosterone. Either way, I am finally zeroing in on where I feel best.

[PeakT]

Gotcha.  Well, let us know how it works and I'd measure it of course...

[VinnAY]

I think you're taking to big of a swing at things manipulating the AI and your TCyp dosing at the same time when all you needed to do was go once a week with the AI; small changes. That's what I would have done, right or wrong, but in my opinion you just threw more things in to flux than you needed to that will cloud your results.

I don't understand the taking less TCyp, either.

[kquad]

I think you're taking to big of a swing at things manipulating the AI and your TCyp dosing at the same time when all you needed to do was go once a week with the AI; small changes. That's what I would have done, right or wrong, but in my opinion you just threw more things in to flux than you needed to that will cloud your results.

I don't understand the taking less TCyp, either.

I am not sure what you mean. I was taking 200 mg TCyp nd had an off the chart test level. So, I needed to come down. (if you were referring to me)

[VinnAY]

I think you're taking to big of a swing at things manipulating the AI and your TCyp dosing at the same time when all you needed to do was go once a week with the AI; small changes. That's what I would have done, right or wrong, but in my opinion you just threw more things in to flux than you needed to that will cloud your results.

I don't understand the taking less TCyp, either.

I am not sure what you mean. I was taking 200 mg TCyp nd had an off the chart test level. So, I needed to come down. (if you were referring to me)

in this thread I didn't see any thing you said about your Total and Free T, just what your'e taking and only the E2 test results. Maybe that's why I questioned why you dropped your dosage.

[kquad]

OK, it is easy to forget that not everyone knows you and all you have posted 

[PeakT]

OK, it is easy to forget that not everyone knows you and all you have posted 

Don't forget to put the basics in your signature if you can.