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Jasonada

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« on: October 30, 2012, 04:50:17 pm »
Firstly hi all and im sorry if this has already been asked but im a 37 yea r ol8.8d with a test count of 8.8 and my doc says thats fine and I need no treatment and I dont know what I should do thanks in advance jason sorry but typed this on my phone

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2012, 05:12:46 pm »
Ouch!  That would be designated hypogonadal by almost every lab here in the U.S. so you'd have no trouble getting treatment on this side of the ocean.  A young guy, though, has to take into account fertility and, of course, preexisting conditions if HRT is under consideration...
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If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2012, 05:56:20 pm »
Thanks what do you suggest I do what is 8.8 in us measurement

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2012, 08:37:02 pm »
It would be about 260.  29.4 is the conversion factor I believe.

Are you in the U.K.?  (I'm asking for a reason.)
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2012, 10:19:00 pm »
Thanks yes im from the uk

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2012, 01:16:30 am »
God help you. 

(And God save the Queen of course.)

No, we have had a lot of posters from the U.K. and it is just ugly over there as far as getting treatment.  Based on what I have seen:

1.  Virtually no doctors ever use Arimidex, Clomid, Nolvadex or HCG, i.e. if you are int'd in preserving your fertility, it is a barren wasteland as far as I can tell.

2.  HRT is almost never prescribed no matter how low the testosterone is.  I am quite certain that many men from the UK likely have anemia and bone-wasting estradiol levels along with abysmally low T and yet the doctors there simply will not treat them.

Do a search on NHS and you'll see what I am talking about.

So I'm sorry to be negative, but I really do not think I am exaggerating.  So you asked what you should do and I do not know what to tell you. 

Now I do have one important question to ask you:  are you overweight by any chance?  Or by any chance are you depressed?  have a sleep disorder?  Also, did you get your testosterone read first thing in the morning?

 
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 08:02:46 am »
Hi thanks for that im so fustrated with the doctors no I am not over weight but I am very depressed
I also dont drink or smoke and i work out 4,5 days a week although just lately been struggleing with
Motiivation to do anything thanks for your help jason

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 09:54:10 am »
I'm also from uk

March right back into your doctors office, and tell him the british society for sexual medicine says that people with a range below 14, are eligble for a trt trial. Show this to your doctor and dont take no for an answer. This is your body not his. I'm sure he can say it's fine, but he doesn't feel the way you do

http://www.bssm.org.uk/downloads/UK_Guidelines_Androgens_Male_2010.pdf

Print that out, and show it him. If he doesn't listen, go elsewhere. I know people here in uk getting TRT, it's just finding the correct doctor to work with you. On no planet is 8.8 a good testosterone level

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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 01:17:36 pm »
Thanks I have thismorning and doc says he is not willing to treat me so I got angry and protested and he said he would send me to hospital although he said theyed say the same as him and he my depression wouldnt be related to my test so he clearly hasnt been doing his homework and I also have an identical twin who is suffering the same as me and his doc has sorted his he is at 18'8 and climbing on testogel

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2012, 02:00:52 pm »
I'm also from uk

March right back into your doctors office, and tell him the british society for sexual medicine says that people with a range below 14, are eligble for a trt trial. Show this to your doctor and dont take no for an answer. This is your body not his. I'm sure he can say it's fine, but he doesn't feel the way you do

http://www.bssm.org.uk/downloads/UK_Guidelines_Androgens_Male_2010.pdf

Print that out, and show it him. If he doesn't listen, go elsewhere. I know people here in uk getting TRT, it's just finding the correct doctor to work with you. On no planet is 8.8 a good testosterone level

You're a saint.  I'm going to keep this post in mind when other guys from the U.K. post.

Again, PM me of any doctors that you find that will actually treat.  I will put them in this if they are willing:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hormone_Replacement_Therapy_Doctors
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2012, 03:31:47 pm »
It's disturbing, how does this happen? What is happening to men?

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2012, 04:08:50 pm »
I'm also from uk

March right back into your doctors office, and tell him the british society for sexual medicine says that people with a range below 14, are eligble for a trt trial. Show this to your doctor and dont take no for an answer. This is your body not his. I'm sure he can say it's fine, but he doesn't feel the way you do

http://www.bssm.org.uk/downloads/UK_Guidelines_Androgens_Male_2010.pdf

Print that out, and show it him. If he doesn't listen, go elsewhere. I know people here in uk getting TRT, it's just finding the correct doctor to work with you. On no planet is 8.8 a good testosterone level

You're a saint.  I'm going to keep this post in mind when other guys from the U.K. post.

Again, PM me of any doctors that you find that will actually treat.  I will put them in this if they are willing:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hormone_Replacement_Therapy_Doctors

http://www.centreformenshealth.co.uk/specialists

These guys seem to treat people with testosterone problems. It is private though so quite expensive, however it does get the ball rolling. I managed to get Dr Carruthers email. I'm more interested to find out if they treat secondary people with clomid/hcg, rather than testosterone. However, at the very least they use testosterone. He hasn't got back to me yet, but maybe you can email him and ask him for interview? It will benefit his business

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2012, 05:35:58 pm »
Ive had a phone call from the hospital so the rocket I gave my doc must have worked im there on the 15th of november so ill keep you posted fingers crossed n all that can I just say again thanks guys

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2012, 06:22:34 pm »
Can I also say I suffer realy badly from psoriasis and have been on methetrexate for a number of years but ive been off it now for about 3 months but its flared up seriosly since ive had these symptoms and I  feel almost feelingless for want of a  better word so I hope the hospital can help me

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2012, 06:51:27 pm »
Can I also say I suffer realy badly from psoriasis and have been on methetrexate for a number of years but ive been off it now for about 3 months but its flared up seriosly since ive had these symptoms and I  feel almost feelingless for want of a  better word so I hope the hospital can help me

don't worry, this is your lowest point. 8.8 is a horrible level, things can't get any worse. You have experienced the low point, now the only way is up. You may need to fight a bit longer though, but it will be worth it. I'm in same position and I'm loving the challenge of finding a doctor who knows his stuff. Please print out the page I showed you and take it to hospital with you

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Re: Testosterone scores
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2012, 06:51:27 pm »