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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2015, 05:45:58 pm »
In theory, HCG added to TRT is a great idea.  Especially for any younger guys who still want to have children (myself included).  However, anytime I add hcg, it triggers so many other mechanisms in the body that the roller coaster ride begins. 

I'm going back to basics and getting my TRT dose dialed in without hcg and see where my e2, preg, prog, dhea is after a month. 

Keep in mind hcg increaes the conversion of CHOL to Preg, and then everything else down the line.  This is a big line that is being changed and could trigger a multitude of symptoms.

Just saying, HCG could be doing more harm than help.

That seems to make sense. I have a friend, he has no issues, but is not taking HCG. Seems there is no harm in dropping it for a while.

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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2015, 06:08:53 pm »
Does anyone have a link to all the effects of HCG? All I really find is weight loss links

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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2015, 06:08:53 pm »


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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2015, 08:58:11 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2015, 10:41:33 pm »
OK K. I am reading through this again, The water retention, if caused by cortisol, would be because of high cortisol. Correct? In that case lowering or stopping the HCG might lower cortsol.

Cortisol or aldosterone, and if the former because it's clogging up aldosterone receptors. 
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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2015, 10:41:33 pm »


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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2015, 02:58:00 am »
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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2015, 03:23:42 am »
Hmmm, maybe I should drop my HCG... idk, what about fertility tho?  There has to be some benefits to HCG?

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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2015, 03:47:04 am »
I took the HCG yesterday. I plan on stopping it for now. My only real outstanding issues now are oily skin (minor) and facial swelling. I hope it helps with both. I am done having kids. This may be good. Since I am broke, I may not have to pay for HCG!

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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2015, 02:16:56 pm »
I took the HCG yesterday. I plan on stopping it for now. My only real outstanding issues now are oily skin (minor) and facial swelling. I hope it helps with both. I am done having kids. This may be good. Since I am broke, I may not have to pay for HCG!

So why would HCG help with these?  Not sure where you are headed with that...
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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2015, 02:22:37 pm »
I took the HCG yesterday. I plan on stopping it for now. My only real outstanding issues now are oily skin (minor) and facial swelling. I hope it helps with both. I am done having kids. This may be good. Since I am broke, I may not have to pay for HCG!

So why would HCG help with these?  Not sure where you are headed with that...

I think he is saying that "quitting Hcg" will help reduce these symptoms.
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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2015, 03:16:51 pm »

I think he is saying that "quitting Hcg" will help reduce these symptoms.

Gotcha.  Now I'm with ya...
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Re: Still Symptoms? Maybe It's Not Just Estradiol
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2015, 03:16:51 pm »