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low-t

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Question about Testogel
« on: March 05, 2015, 03:29:32 am »
Hello!

Started with Testogel in December and after a while I got my motivation back but it disappeared just before Christmas. Took blood samples in early January that showed
T 15 nmol / L = 433 ng/dl
E2 90 pmol / l = 25pg/ml
SHBG 36 nmol /l

My doctor increased the dose to 9 sachets week, two days a week I take two sachets. Tried one sachet in the morning and once at night without any progress. Then took both of them in the morning then got my motivation back for a while and then disappeared again.

Took new blood tests last week, so talk to the doctor the next few weeks. My doctor said he will raise me to 20nmol / l, but I do not think that's enough for me. Having been on the HCG monotherapy last year and was then in 24nmol / l before I got the next injection. Felt good on Pregnyl but my estradiol increased with time so the effect was weaker at the end.

Do I ever got my motivation back, or is it a dopamine boost from the testosterone that gave me that motivation?
Maybe I am shutdown right now and need higher doses of testosterone?

When the motivation came back it felt like life came back and I was really productive. Felt sad when it disappeared again.

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Re: Question about Testogel
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2015, 07:23:29 am »
Hello!

Started with Testogel in December and after a while I got my motivation back but it disappeared just before Christmas. Took blood samples in early January that showed
T 15 nmol / L = 433 ng/dl
E2 90 pmol / l = 25pg/ml
SHBG 36 nmol /l

My doctor increased the dose to 9 sachets week, two days a week I take two sachets. Tried one sachet in the morning and once at night without any progress. Then took both of them in the morning then got my motivation back for a while and then disappeared again.

Took new blood tests last week, so talk to the doctor the next few weeks. My doctor said he will raise me to 20nmol / l, but I do not think that's enough for me. Having been on the HCG monotherapy last year and was then in 24nmol / l before I got the next injection. Felt good on Pregnyl but my estradiol increased with time so the effect was weaker at the end.

Do I ever got my motivation back, or is it a dopamine boost from the testosterone that gave me that motivation?
Maybe I am shutdown right now and need higher doses of testosterone?

When the motivation came back it felt like life came back and I was really productive. Felt sad when it disappeared again.

If you can get up to 20 you may be okay.  The topicals are supposed to raise DHT a little more per Dr. Crisler, which can help a guy out.  Hard to know until you try.
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Re: Question about Testogel
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Re: Question about Testogel
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2015, 08:20:11 am »
It doesn't look like this dose is working too well for you.  What does your free testosterone look like on this protocol?  That's the number I'd be focused on if I were you.  Total testosterone is often a poor indicator of hypogonadism or effective testosterone replacement.

I agree with Peak that you might feel ok at 20 nmol/l for total T, but the way you feel is largely based on your free T value.  Free T usually rises along with total T, but your SHBG will help to dictate how much.



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Re: Question about Testogel
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2015, 09:52:41 am »
My doctor increased the dose to 9 sachets week, two days a week I take two sachets.
Sounds completly bonkers to me with a dose of 9 packets a week, it will give you uneven levels of T, as far as i know proper dosing of testogel is either 1x50mg or 2x50mg every day.

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Re: Question about Testogel
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2015, 01:57:50 pm »
It doesn't look like this dose is working too well for you.  What does your free testosterone look like on this protocol?  That's the number I'd be focused on if I were you.  Total testosterone is often a poor indicator of hypogonadism or effective testosterone replacement.

I agree with Peak that you might feel ok at 20 nmol/l for total T, but the way you feel is largely based on your free T value.  Free T usually rises along with total T, but your SHBG will help to dictate how much.

Hi! I started hcg monotherapy last year, 1500 iu twice a week and my T was 24 nmol/l  and i think shbg was 55 nmol/l. So my free T was quite low.

Started testogel in december and my total t is lower now but i got 2% free t and my ED is better now with higher free t. My shbg last time was 36 nmol/l. Weird that my libido is lower now, was skyhigh with hcg but Ed instead.

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Re: Question about Testogel
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2015, 02:02:36 pm »
My doctor increased the dose to 9 sachets week, two days a week I take two sachets.
Sounds completly bonkers to me with a dose of 9 packets a week, it will give you uneven levels of T, as far as i know proper dosing of testogel is either 1x50mg or 2x50mg every day.

Yes! I talk to my doc next week and se if he could raise to 2x50mg every day.
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