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I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« on: November 08, 2012, 06:39:56 pm »
I just noticed that on a physical I had about a year and a half ago, they took my estradiol and it was 60! 

As I've mentioned, I'm a skinny bastard.  However, with the general busyness of life, I had put on a little fat - about 10-12 pounds of mostly visceral fat.  Doesn't sound like that much?

Well, I recently lost about 8 of those pounds and my abs are showing pretty close to how I looked in high school/college.  My theory is that, assuming you were lean during those years, you can bring yourself right back to that "set point" that was established then if you drop the pounds.

And sure enough, I had my blood pulled a few days ago and my E2 was 19!  Not a bad reduction, eh?

I asked the doc if he ever sees that and he said it's quite common with guys who lose weight.  So drop the pounds and enjoy the rewards guys.

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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 09:01:34 pm »
wow! that's a fantastic testimonial.....very cool, and great to hear.

I'm trying to understand if it's actually possible to accurately measure estradiol while on Clomid. Before i started, my bloodwork showed estradiol at 69 (and I'm a skinny bastard too!)..

then, two tests on Clomid, and estradiol came in at low 30s.

I've seen some commentary on how you can't truly measure estradiol while on clomid unless it's an "ultra sensitive" E test. I asked my doctor about it, and he really had no idea what i was talking about.

Do you know anything about it?

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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 10:46:53 pm »
As I've mentioned, I'm a skinny bastard.  However, with the general busyness of life, I had put on a little fat - about 10-12 pounds of mostly visceral fat.  Doesn't sound like that much?

Well, I recently lost about 8 of those pounds and my abs are showing pretty close to how I looked in high school/college.  My theory is that, assuming you were lean during those years, you can bring yourself right back to that "set point" that was established then if you drop the pounds.

And sure enough, I had my blood pulled a few days ago and my E2 was 19!  Not a bad reduction, eh?

That's great Peak! What is your approx. BF% now?
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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 01:21:01 am »
wow! that's a fantastic testimonial.....very cool, and great to hear.

I'm trying to understand if it's actually possible to accurately measure estradiol while on Clomid. Before i started, my bloodwork showed estradiol at 69 (and I'm a skinny bastard too!)..

then, two tests on Clomid, and estradiol came in at low 30s.

I've seen some commentary on how you can't truly measure estradiol while on clomid unless it's an "ultra sensitive" E test. I asked my doctor about it, and he really had no idea what i was talking about.

Do you know anything about it?

This is something I've wanted to research (on the T side also) and just haven't had time.  Let me know if you find something out.
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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 01:21:01 am »


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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 01:26:07 am »

That's great Peak! What is your approx. BF% now?

No idea.  Was getting a line down the abs and then I filled in the weight with a little visceral fat!  Still good outline on the abs, though, and can't really "pinch an inch" if you know what I mean.  So  I'm back in the game, though, and want to have the abs showing for my wife when she gets back in a few days...
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 05:26:35 am »
I would have never guessed that a marginal ( by American standards of extra weight) amount of weight lost would make that kind of difference. That's pretty remarkable actually. Carrying 8 pounds of extra weight seems harmless in a sense considering it's such a lower number in comparison with the average amount of extra weight most people in the United States need to lose. Some men carry that extra weight and show no signs of hormonal imbalances while other men who are indeed carrying that extra 30-40 pounds are on the edge of being hypogondal with high estrogen. Great news and great work!
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 02:38:32 pm »
I would have never guessed that a marginal ( by American standards of extra weight) amount of weight lost would make that kind of difference. That's pretty remarkable actually. Carrying 8 pounds of extra weight seems harmless in a sense considering it's such a lower number in comparison with the average amount of extra weight most people in the United States need to lose. Some men carry that extra weight and show no signs of hormonal imbalances while other men who are indeed carrying that extra 30-40 pounds are on the edge of being hypogondal with high estrogen. Great news and great work!
Yes, but I had very low visceral fat for decades and probably doubled or tripled it, even though I was still quite thin, when my youngest was born.  My guess is that that has a much bigger effect on hormones in some people than imagined..
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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2012, 09:14:22 pm »
Guys,

Remember LowerT51?  I was just chatting with him - emailing actually - and he had a similar experience.  He basically began jogging and lost weight because of it (and I'm sure managing calories) and his E2 dropped from 58 to 20!

Like me, he said that he believes he has lost about 10 pounds.  I guess it doesn't take that much sometimes!
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 11:46:48 am »
I would have never guessed that a marginal ( by American standards of extra weight) amount of weight lost would make that kind of difference. That's pretty remarkable actually. Carrying 8 pounds of extra weight seems harmless in a sense considering it's such a lower number in comparison with the average amount of extra weight most people in the United States need to lose. Some men carry that extra weight and show no signs of hormonal imbalances while other men who are indeed carrying that extra 30-40 pounds are on the edge of being hypogondal with high estrogen. Great news and great work!
this is something that I wonder a lot about when I am out in public and see men, 80% who have stomachs over their belts,
I think, how can they not have testosterone issues and all the symptoms that go with that?

I look at myself and I know I have lost a ton of weight in the last year and I think it's played a big difference,  in my testosterone level due to the reduced estrogen. but then I've never had my estrogen measured...oops

maybe they have high testosterone to overcome any issues?
I also thought, maybe they are fat and their wives are fat, so they dont have sex/good sex and think along the lines of, "I'll diet later" or" Im just aging...zzzzzzzzz"
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 12:29:47 pm »
Great news T, I hope that you feel 3x better as well.
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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 12:56:12 pm »
I just noticed that on a physical I had about a year and a half ago, they took my estradiol and it was 60! 

As I've mentioned, I'm a skinny bastard.  However, with the general busyness of life, I had put on a little fat - about 10-12 pounds of mostly visceral fat.  Doesn't sound like that much?

Well, I recently lost about 8 of those pounds and my abs are showing pretty close to how I looked in high school/college.
how estradiol be so sensitive to fat loss and yet so many men are so fat?  you had a high estradiol  level and your bodyfat had to be mid-teens at most
You lose 8lbs and show abs, so you werent very fat, I doubt anyone would have called you chunky?

but losing those 8lbs decreased your estradiol  that much?  great, but how do other men, who are 20-60lbs overweight stand a chance?
sheesh

Great work.
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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2013, 04:10:41 pm »

how estradiol be so sensitive to fat loss and yet so many men are so fat?  you had a high estradiol  level and your bodyfat had to be mid-teens at most
I don't know if it is in everyone.  But that is the only thing that I really changed that would affect estradiol, so I'm pretty sure that's what did it.

You lose 8lbs and show abs, so you werent very fat, I doubt anyone would have called you chunky?
You're right.  Just had a slight paunch. 

but losing those 8lbs decreased your estradiol  that much?  great, but how do other men, who are 20-60lbs overweight stand a chance?
sheesh
I'm hoping some other guys will experiment and let me know.
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Re: I Reduced Estradiol Threefold!
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2013, 04:10:41 pm »