HCG consensus and how to obtain

[Zooka15]

Peak, what are your thoughts on HCG?

[Osprey]

I spent my first 2.5 years on TRT with no HCG. Had no luck convincing any of the docs I was seeing to prescribe it so I had to find and switch to a doc who does.

I've been trying it with T for a couple of months. I'm still trying to dial things in. I've felt some evidence that it may be having an effect but nothing definitive yet.

What effects are you feeling it is having? How did you find a doc just by chance?

There has been a few hours on 2 separate days in the past 2 months where my libido was not zero. I would say on a scale of 1-10, where 10 is what it was at 19 years old, it was a 1 or 2.

As for a doc, I bit the bullet and traveled over 4 states to go see Dr. Shippen.

[Kierkegaard]

I spent my first 2.5 years on TRT with no HCG. Had no luck convincing any of the docs I was seeing to prescribe it so I had to find and switch to a doc who does.

I've been trying it with T for a couple of months. I'm still trying to dial things in. I've felt some evidence that it may be having an effect but nothing definitive yet.

What effects are you feeling it is having? How did you find a doc just by chance?

There has been a few hours on 2 separate days in the past 2 months where my libido was not zero. I would say on a scale of 1-10, where 10 is what it was at 19 years old, it was a 1 or 2.

As for a doc, I bit the bullet and traveled over 4 states to go see Dr. Shippen.

What was your impression of Shippen?  I've heard very good things.  He seems like a mentor type to Crisler, and that can't be a bad thing!

[Osprey]

What was your impression of Shippen?  I've heard very good things.  He seems like a mentor type to Crisler, and that can't be a bad thing!

I'd say his reputation is well deserved. He is a really nice guy and very easy to talk to. Before seeing him I had to write a letter explaining my history and why I was coming to see him. My letter ended up being quite lengthy because I had already been to several TRT docs and tried several forms of treatment. In my 2 hour discussion with him it became apparent that he actually read, no, I would say studied, my letter because he actually referred back to comments that I had made in it. Most doctors I've seen don't look at my records until after they walk into the exam room.

The jury is still out as to whether he can actually help me or not, but I none of the other docs I've seen any idea what to do or try.

[SomeGuy]

I spent my first 2.5 years on TRT with no HCG. Had no luck convincing any of the docs I was seeing to prescribe it so I had to find and switch to a doc who does.

I've been trying it with T for a couple of months. I'm still trying to dial things in. I've felt some evidence that it may be having an effect but nothing definitive yet.

Have you noticed any increase in testicle size since adding the HCG?

[Osprey]

I spent my first 2.5 years on TRT with no HCG. Had no luck convincing any of the docs I was seeing to prescribe it so I had to find and switch to a doc who does.

I've been trying it with T for a couple of months. I'm still trying to dial things in. I've felt some evidence that it may be having an effect but nothing definitive yet.

Have you noticed any increase in testicle size since adding the HCG?

No, it does not seem like they've changed at all.

[timmy11]

What was your impression of Shippen?  I've heard very good things.  He seems like a mentor type to Crisler, and that can't be a bad thing!

I'd say his reputation is well deserved. He is a really nice guy and very easy to talk to. Before seeing him I had to write a letter explaining my history and why I was coming to see him. My letter ended up being quite lengthy because I had already been to several TRT docs and tried several forms of treatment. In my 2 hour discussion with him it became apparent that he actually read, no, I would say studied, my letter because he actually referred back to comments that I had made in it. Most doctors I've seen don't look at my records until after they walk into the exam room.

The jury is still out as to whether he can actually help me or not, but I none of the other docs I've seen any idea what to do or try.

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Dr. Shippen cost?

[VinnAY]

I spent my first 2.5 years on TRT with no HCG. Had no luck convincing any of the docs I was seeing to prescribe it so I had to find and switch to a doc who does.

I've been trying it with T for a couple of months. I'm still trying to dial things in. I've felt some evidence that it may be having an effect but nothing definitive yet.

Have you noticed any increase in testicle size since adding the HCG?

I think I have noticed an increase, some, yes.

[Osprey]

What was your impression of Shippen?  I've heard very good things.  He seems like a mentor type to Crisler, and that can't be a bad thing!

I'd say his reputation is well deserved. He is a really nice guy and very easy to talk to. Before seeing him I had to write a letter explaining my history and why I was coming to see him. My letter ended up being quite lengthy because I had already been to several TRT docs and tried several forms of treatment. In my 2 hour discussion with him it became apparent that he actually read, no, I would say studied, my letter because he actually referred back to comments that I had made in it. Most doctors I've seen don't look at my records until after they walk into the exam room.

The jury is still out as to whether he can actually help me or not, but I none of the other docs I've seen any idea what to do or try.

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Dr. Shippen cost?

$600 for the initial consult. $185 for follow ups. Labs are covered by my insurance.

[SomeGuy]

I spent my first 2.5 years on TRT with no HCG. Had no luck convincing any of the docs I was seeing to prescribe it so I had to find and switch to a doc who does.

I've been trying it with T for a couple of months. I'm still trying to dial things in. I've felt some evidence that it may be having an effect but nothing definitive yet.

Have you noticed any increase in testicle size since adding the HCG?

I think I have noticed an increase, some, yes.

Vinnay, how long were you on T without HCG before you started HCG? I'm trying to get a sense of how long a guy can be shut down and still bounce back.

[Hydranted]

I spent my first 2.5 years on TRT with no HCG. Had no luck convincing any of the docs I was seeing to prescribe it so I had to find and switch to a doc who does.

I've been trying it with T for a couple of months. I'm still trying to dial things in. I've felt some evidence that it may be having an effect but nothing definitive yet.

Have you noticed any increase in testicle size since adding the HCG?

I think I have noticed an increase, some, yes.

Vinnay, how long were you on T without HCG before you started HCG? I'm trying to get a sense of how long a guy can be shut down and still bounce back.

The testes will always (in the absence of some type of rare extenuating circumstance) be able to be restored to their original size.  It doesn't really matter how long you've been shut down, they'll bounce back with hCG.  It might take a couple of months, but it'll happen.  As long as the dose isn't too low there shouldn't be any issues.

[Zooka15]

Just wanted to bring this back up to the top to get others thoughts on HCG.